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mixitwithblop
Feb 4, 2009

by elpintogrande


Ok, so what's the best unlocked phone usable on Straight Talk AT&T or Verizon with ICS stock/upgraded for under $300? I've been told by folks that T-mobile isn't great in my hood. My signal and 3G speed on VM leaves much to be desired.

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MC Hawking
Apr 27, 2004

by VideoGames


Fun Shoe

While I can't speak for Verizon, you could probably find an at& t compatible Nexus S for under $300 with some digging. That's pretty much going to be the only phone in that price range running ICS stock, period. That assumes a certain degree of luck in finding one to be honest with you. Most people will tell you to sell some plasma and just get a Gnex but I can totally understand having reservations, despite the huge spec bump for not a gigantic cost increase.

cheese eats mouse
Jul 6, 2007


Rastor posted:

Sorry, you have to order the SIM from straighttalksim.com, the sim-only kits aren't sold in Wal-Mart stores.

I learned this the hard way yesterday and now have to overnight a SIM :facepalm:

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001



mixitwithblop posted:

Ok, so what's the best unlocked phone usable on Straight Talk AT&T or Verizon with ICS stock/upgraded for under $300? I've been told by folks that T-mobile isn't great in my hood. My signal and 3G speed on VM leaves much to be desired.
As others said a used Nexus S (MUST be model i-9020a, not i-9020t or i-9023) is about the only thing that fits your requirements.
If you can save up the extra $100 for the Galaxy Nexus, you might find it worth it to have done so, though I understand not everyone can justify spending $400 on a phone.

cheese eats mouse posted:

I learned this the hard way yesterday and now have to overnight a SIM :facepalm:
OK since there has been some confusion I've stripped the Wal-Mart mentions out of the Straight Talk sections in the OP about using it on AT&T or T-Mobile. Hopefully it's clearer now.

savesthedayrocks
Mar 18, 2004


mixitwithblop posted:

Ok, so what's the best unlocked phone usable on Straight Talk AT&T or Verizon with ICS stock/upgraded for under $300? I've been told by folks that T-mobile isn't great in my hood. My signal and 3G speed on VM leaves much to be desired.

Wouldn't the new evo fit your bill? It has ics, sprint 4g network, and $300.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





savesthedayrocks posted:

Wouldn't the new evo fit your bill? It has ics, sprint 4g network, and $300.

Sprint's 4g coverage is garbage. Poor in areas that have it, and still nonexistent in much of the country.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.


savesthedayrocks posted:

Wouldn't the new evo fit your bill? It has ics, sprint 4g network, and $300.

If it's a Sprint phone, then it's not unlocked.

VV Ahhh, E3D...I was assuming the newer Evo, the Evo 4G LTE or whatever extra letters and numbers they added on.

DrBouvenstein fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Jun 4, 2012

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001



The EVO 3D has been made available on Virgin Mobile USA with a different name.

However, he said that "signal and 3G speed on VM leaves much to be desired", so my assumption is he wasn't looking for a VM recommendation.

Cabbages and Kings
Aug 25, 2004

shall we be trotting home again?



Rastor posted:

The EVO 3D has been made available on Virgin Mobile USA with a different name.

However, he said that "signal and 3G speed on VM leaves much to be desired", so my assumption is he wasn't looking for a VM recommendation.

the Evo 3D is 4g on the WiMax network though, no? Is there anywhere (BBY, etc) that I can get a device and return it 48h later if the speed sucks? I've been okay with the service on VM where I am, but it's mostly pretty slow. If the new phones were significantly faster, it's probably enough to keep me on VM for another generation.

whatever7
Jul 26, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN


mixitwithblop posted:

Ok, so what's the best unlocked phone usable on Straight Talk AT&T or Verizon with ICS stock/upgraded for under $300? I've been told by folks that T-mobile isn't great in my hood. My signal and 3G speed on VM leaves much to be desired.

You should spend the extra 100 and get a new Galaxy nexus. Or buy an used Verizon Galaxy Nexus for under 300.

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

Ready to eat me, sir!


Re: T-Mobile monthly 4G
For my 2nd month in a row, I've got a text message the day before my account is auto-renewed that I used up all my minutes and they disconnected my service. I used 4 minutes this month. Wish I could call customer support right now, but has anyone else had this happen?

Capt. Morgan
Feb 23, 2006



Grimey Drawer

Yes, I just got that text this morning. I used maybe 15 minutes this month.

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

Ready to eat me, sir!


Capt. Morgan posted:

Yes, I just got that text this morning. I used maybe 15 minutes this month.

I have no idea why but my plan finally auto-renewed about a half hour ago. Works fine now and my account online says paid.

Porkchop Express
Dec 24, 2009

Ten million years of absolute power. That's what it takes to be really corrupt.


I have never got that message, except for the one time I actually did use all of my minutes. However I keep a balance of $25 on my account so it just switches over to .10 cents a minute if I ever go over again.

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

Ready to eat me, sir!


Porkchop Express posted:

I have never got that message, except for the one time I actually did use all of my minutes. However I keep a balance of $25 on my account so it just switches over to .10 cents a minute if I ever go over again.

Well it's weird because I have $3 in my account left over every month after the $30. I got one text at 9:18am saying "thanks for payment!" and then one at 9:54am that said, "Your pymnt is past due and ur plan is inactive" despite it being active. WHAT THE HECK TMOBILE

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003


Lblitzer posted:

Well it's weird because I have $3 in my account left over every month after the $30. I got one text at 9:18am saying "thanks for payment!" and then one at 9:54am that said, "Your pymnt is past due and ur plan is inactive" despite it being active. WHAT THE HECK TMOBILE

For a couple months T-Mobile has thrown out those same incorrect messages for me too. It seems to mean nothing.

whatever7
Jul 26, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN


Lblitzer posted:

Re: T-Mobile monthly 4G
For my 2nd month in a row, I've got a text message the day before my account is auto-renewed that I used up all my minutes and they disconnected my service. I used 4 minutes this month. Wish I could call customer support right now, but has anyone else had this happen?

I haven't received any unusual text. My renewal is tomorrow.

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001



Rumors about the iPhone coming to Boost Mobile / Virgin Mobile USA have been bubbling for the last week. Sounds like ETA is sometime between Cricket Wireless getting it on June 22 and September.

Naffer
Oct 26, 2004

Not a good chemist

Rastor posted:

Rumors about the iPhone coming to Boost Mobile / Virgin Mobile USA have been bubbling for the last week. Sounds like ETA is sometime between Cricket Wireless getting it on June 22 and September.

A $500 iPhone 4S is actually in the ballpark of what I expect people will pay for. It's a full $150 less than Apple charges for unlocked devices, and only $100 more than what Google charges for the unlocked GSM Nexus.

This could totally undercut Sprint's efforts in postpaid though.

Arcsech
Aug 5, 2008


Rastor posted:

Rumors about the iPhone coming to Boost Mobile / Virgin Mobile USA have been bubbling for the last week. Sounds like ETA is sometime between Cricket Wireless getting it on June 22 and September.

Hmm, I was going to get a GNex and switch to TMo soon, but I was wishing there was some way to get an iPhone. Is an iPhone 4s worth $100 more and $5 more per month? Hmmm....

cheese eats mouse
Jul 6, 2007


Rastor posted:

Rumors about the iPhone coming to Boost Mobile / Virgin Mobile USA have been bubbling for the last week. Sounds like ETA is sometime between Cricket Wireless getting it on June 22 and September.

It's true.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sp...hone-2012-06-05

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
"It has gunfights and shit!"


Lipstick Apathy

That's pretty embarrassing for T-Mo. Must be equally embarrassing for Apple fanboys too though, now that VM sees the iPhone fit to join the glorious ranks of legends such as the Intercept and Triumph.

Porkchop Express
Dec 24, 2009

Ten million years of absolute power. That's what it takes to be really corrupt.


It still seems a little crazy to me that the iPhone will roll out on all of these pre-paid carriers and some tiny regional carriers before it gets to T-Mobile.

sanchez
Feb 26, 2003


I would assume a Tmo iphone would take much more effort due to their unique 3g frequencies. Adding a CDMA model to a CDMA carrier is no big deal.

Porkchop Express
Dec 24, 2009

Ten million years of absolute power. That's what it takes to be really corrupt.


Well now that I think of it, I suppose they could put in different radios for T-Mobiles network, but maybe they haven't because it runs at a faster speed and they are worried about battery life, or don't want it to appear that there is only one model of the iPhone that is "4g".

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001



They'd never put in different radios for a player as small as T-Mobile. Apple is obsessed with supply chain control and unification, they hated making a separate model for Verizon and were thrilled when a new chip let them make one hardware design that would work on CDMA and GSM carriers all over the world. But the chip/antenna design were complicated enough without also tossing in support for T-Mobile's AWS frequencies and they weren't going to be bothered.

Maybe Apple will have to go back to two separate models when it comes time to support LTE, but until then they're definitely not going to make a different version for T-Mobile. The T-Mobile 1900MHz frequency rollout is supposed to happen by the end of the year and it'll be interesting to see what happens then. After all it's not that Apple doesn't want their phones on T-Mobile, it's just that they're not going to be arsed to do anything special to make it happen.

MrBond
Feb 19, 2004

FYI, Cheese NIPS are not the same as Cheez ITS

Zero VGS posted:

That's pretty embarrassing for T-Mo. Must be equally embarrassing for Apple fanboys too though, now that VM sees the iPhone fit to join the glorious ranks of legends such as the Intercept and Triumph.

Nice strawman.

I'm kind of disappointed to hear that VM only does "anytime" minutes. They appear to have gotten rid of nights and weekends, which won't work so well for my minimal usage parents.

Plus, Sprint coverage always seems to be a wildcard. They're used to verizon-level coverage.

Porkchop Express
Dec 24, 2009

Ten million years of absolute power. That's what it takes to be really corrupt.


MrBond posted:

Plus, Sprint coverage always seems to be a wildcard. They're used to verizon-level coverage.

When I had VM everywhere I went had terrible coverage. I would drop calls, the data speeds were god awful, and a lot of times texts wouldn't come through until hours later, prompting a lot of "DIDN'T YOU GET MY TEXT!?!?!?" questions.

Xeom
Mar 16, 2007


Would it be possible for me to get a Nokia 800 and put it on straight talk with att?

It does not seem to work very well with t-mobiles apparently it only gets g2 on t-mobiles waves or whatever.

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001



I don't know much about Windows Phone personally, but if it lets you change Access Point Name (APN) settings then it ought to work.

Priz
Mar 1, 2003


Porkchop Express posted:

When I had VM everywhere I went had terrible coverage. I would drop calls, the data speeds were god awful, and a lot of times texts wouldn't come through until hours later, prompting a lot of "DIDN'T YOU GET MY TEXT!?!?!?" questions.
At home I can get 3-4 bars and signal/data seem solid. When I travel, such as the local convention center two weeks ago or when I went to SoCal last August, I'm usually 0-2 bars at most places on my Triumph and data seems like it takes a while to kickstart.

Sometimes when I'm at zero bars the auto-update of an app will kick in, but it's getting no data so it'll struggle to connect (and I can't access the app store to cancel the download as I have no data) and this will make the back of the Triumph run hot and then the battery will shoot from ~80% to 15% in less than an hour.

I'm really tempted to go back to T-Mobile as I never had bizarre issues like this ever... it wasn't the greatest, but it was overall pretty solid, especially compared to Virgin. I love the $25/month rate and wished there was something/ANYTHING even close to it but the struggles just to make the phone solid and work normally... and then the lack of signal/use of the phone... urgh... so annoying.

I wonder how much an off contract Galaxy S3 for T-Moble will cost...

Porkchop Express
Dec 24, 2009

Ten million years of absolute power. That's what it takes to be really corrupt.


Xeom posted:

Would it be possible for me to get a Nokia 800 and put it on straight talk with att?

It does not seem to work very well with t-mobiles apparently it only gets g2 on t-mobiles waves or whatever.


Those are sweet phones and if it supported the 1700 MHz band I would have considered getting it over my amaze. Its a shame that T-Mobile uses these funky frequencies because I love their service and prices.

Also you should be able to use it on Straight Talk from what I understand, you can change the APN settings somewhere, though I couldn't tell you where exactly.



Priz posted:

At home I can get 3-4 bars and signal/data seem solid. When I travel, such as the local convention center two weeks ago or when I went to SoCal last August, I'm usually 0-2 bars at most places on my Triumph and data seems like it takes a while to kickstart.

I couldn't even get that, I would be perpetually at 0-2 bars everywhere. My town isn't the biggest around but even when I would go to the bay area and it would crazy bad. My sister lives in Seattle and had it for a while and she had the same problems with terrible signal.


Priz posted:

Sometimes when I'm at zero bars the auto-update of an app will kick in, but it's getting no data so it'll struggle to connect (and I can't access the app store to cancel the download as I have no data) and this will make the back of the Triumph run hot and then the battery will shoot from ~80% to 15% in less than an hour.

I had this happen a lot too, usually I would either have to throw it in airplane mode or reboot the phone. That was my biggest problem with it, I would always have to be worrying if the service was actually working or not and if it was interfering with someone getting a hold of me.

Priz posted:

I'm really tempted to go back to T-Mobile as I never had bizarre issues like this ever... it wasn't the greatest, but it was overall pretty solid, especially compared to Virgin. I love the $25/month rate and wished there was something/ANYTHING even close to it but the struggles just to make the phone solid and work normally... and then the lack of signal/use of the phone... urgh... so annoying.

The signal isn't always the strongest, but I have never had a problem with it dropping calls or texts not going/coming through. If I am in a spotty area the data speeds can get slower, but its still faster than Virgin Mobile was. Plus for an extra $5 bucks a month if you get the Walmart $30 a month plan you get way faster data speeds, although the low minutes may be an issue for some.

Porkchop Express fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Jun 6, 2012

Naffer
Oct 26, 2004

Not a good chemist

Rastor posted:

I don't know much about Windows Phone personally, but if it lets you change Access Point Name (APN) settings then it ought to work.

You can change the data APN settings and data will work (Settings -> Cellular -> Add APN), but the MMS settings are not exposed and require Nokia's connection settings app, which was pulled from the marketplace a couple months ago because people had found a way to exploit it to unlock (jailbreak) their phones. Until they return Nokia Network Setup MMS won't work.

Edit: I may not be 100% correct about this. Sometimes the windows phone diagnostic app lets you add an MMS APN. You install the app by calling ##634# from the dialer.

Naffer fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Jun 6, 2012

savesthedayrocks
Mar 18, 2004


For what it's worth, I've only had one problem with Virgin, and that was during a nationwide text outage. It sucked for half a day, but oh well.

Other than that, I chop up issues to the old rear end Optimus that I have. It has to be rebooted every other day or so (like that update problem posted earlier). That and I'm running a custom Rom so I'm sure there are some bugs there.

I've never been on T-Mo, but I think with the Iphone and EVO coming out on Virgin, I'll probably stick with them.

Echophonic
Sep 16, 2005

ha;lp


Gun Saliva

Yeah, I've never really had a problem with Virgin. My data speeds are kind of sluggish at work, but that's about the worst of it. I also have gotten lucky with my phones, my Triumph has had none of the issues that seem to plague it. I'm actually hoping they get a Windows phone at some point.

OliverObtuse
Nov 30, 2005

ROCKET FUEL MALT LIQUOR, DAMN!

I have a bit of a quandry. Maybe you guys can help.

I have been a cell phone nut for a while. I've had 65 different phones in 10 years. I keep up cause it's stupidly high. Finally, I have settled on the iPhone 4S with Verizon.

Now, I have five lines with them. All of them family. I have been holding on to this account because of my unlimited data plan that I have grandfathered in. Well, now with Verizon's plan, that will be gone. (Unless I switch to a 4g phone now. Whatever.)

I have been giving massive thought to putting a piece of poo poo on my line, porting to Google Voice, then flashing my iPhone 4S to Page Plus and letting my family stay with their plan. I am a secondary line so no orphan situations would happen.

So what do you think? Should I do it? I have wifi at both home and work. Should I do the 55 a month or stick with my unlimited plan and activate a 4g phone while waiting on the new iPhone? I'm leaning towards Page Plus. Give me some insight guys. I've been "inside" way too long to have a decent idea. ( I used to work for corporate Verizon and now work for corporate ATT )

Help?

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

My Optimus V always has weird issues in the Chicagoland area. Random reboots, or it slows to a crawl, or it fails to lock into the data networks. It's always something different and novel and goes away when I come back to Peoria. My sister and her husband always complain about their Sprint service up there (they have nicer Samsungs, not crappy free discount phones), mostly with crappy data services and mms taking hours to go through.

TMobile would cost about $5/month more (I use ~200 minutes/month), but buying a new phone also has to be factored in. And I kinda like the OV and not having to give a gently caress when I (ab)use it.

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001



Well the comedy option would be to get a used Optimus T and sell the Optimus V. You'd just about break even and have basically the identical phone on T-Mobile.

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax


I got a nexus s to use on tmobile and i'm pretty happy that i won't have to gently caress with lovely roms and workaround bullshit to just have a working phone. And ICS owns pretty hard.

I dont know why i didn't do it in the first place and instead had to deal with a lovely chinese crapphone for 10 months

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hokiehokiehokiehigh
Aug 3, 2007
tech tech vpi

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