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alcharagia posted:This is exactly what I needed to hear. wait for me komaeda-sama~ Ultimate Ultimate Ultimate Maniac Groupie? Or whatever the heck he said in the official translation. Beef Waifu posted:There's nothing sexier a young anime man getting speared through the gut with a long hard pole. After being tied down, even!  The knife wounds, however, are less sexy. Bloody Emissary fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Sep 14, 2014 |
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I always assumed Makoto was the way he was because he was a riff on the Typical lovely Anime Protagonist. His English VA also did Tiz Arrior and his Japanese VA was loving Shinji Ikari, the ur-lovely Protagonist. That should be enough to tell you something. One of the fun things about Dangan Ronpa is that it KNOWS it's anime as hell, so it does stuff like having a complete doof talk nonstop about hope very purposely and ironically. That's one of the things that makes Komaeda so drat great, is that he takes the tropes that Makoto was highlighting anyway and twists them around until they're crazy cakes. He's doubling down on the ironic lovely anime protagonist deal. Realtalk, every time I think about Naegi going on about believing in his friends, I can't help but think of the last song from Parappa The Rappa 2. "But most important, you gotta believe!" That song would have totally fit in the last trial of DR1.
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Sep 14, 2014 04:22
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Bean posted:One of the fun things about Dangan Ronpa is that it KNOWS it's anime as hell, so it does stuff like having a complete doof talk nonstop about hope very purposely and ironically. That was not ironic.
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Bifauxnen posted:I do, but it's hard to find people to talk to about the series sometimes without looking like a giant creeper who's all about the anime fanservice. So I think that's why people get touchy about it... Who would play Danganronpa for the fanservice? There's like, maybe 4 scenes over two games, doesn't seem worth it for that alone.
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"Hahaha, let's be a shitheel and draw lots of breasts and swimsuits talk about panties a lot ~*~ ironically ~*~. That will make the game totally acceptable and not creepy poo poo for otakus at all! See? We can effectively make a porn game as long as we're self-aware and break the fourth wall a lot!"
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Who would play Danganronpa for the fanservice? Are you actually joking? I don't know what's a joke anymore in the Something Awful Danganronpa thread.
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Reminder: http://intriguingly.moe/
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Not a joke. What I mean is, I can't see any reasonable number of people wanting to play the DR games solely and only for the fanservice since there's so little of it. They'd be wading through hours of story and class trials just like 3 scenes if that. Just seems like a waste of time for them when there are games and anime devoted to that sort of thing.
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Suspicious Dish posted:"Hahaha, let's be a shitheel and draw lots of breasts and swimsuits talk about panties a lot ~*~ ironically ~*~. That will make the game totally acceptable and not creepy poo poo for otakus at all! See? We can effectively make a porn game as long as we're self-aware and break the fourth wall a lot!" Porn game? Ahahahahaaaaaaaa Dude, if you think this is what a thinly veiled porn game is like, I envy you. Beef Waifu posted:Are you actually joking? I don't know what's a joke anymore in the Something Awful Danganronpa thread. We're the joke, man. Debating fanservice in Danganronpa?  God, I can't wait for DR:AE to be released.
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EDIT: Forget it, too many words for a terrible subject. The point is the game has a ton of fanservice for no reason and even in the cases it's important (Count it, three of them) it's still stupid. This doesn't mean you're an anime pervert who wants to gently caress the characters though, it just makes the content dumb.Bloody Emissary posted:
Oh it is gonna be amazing.
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I guess I'm not making myself clear enough, but this whole conversation is silly anyway so it's best to end it here.
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Beef Waifu posted:Chiaki's a really weird character even in the context of Danganronpa. I actually laughed when I first encountered her in the game because it basically seemed to me like they were trying to say "See, we don't think nerds are bad! Ignore that other guy from that first game". Capn Beeb posted:I was really hoping somebody would've made Biker a playable character for the whole story. It wouldn't make sense but gently caress you I want to throw knives at more people. "Intriguingly moe" is one of those things that really makes me question the events in my life that caused me to like the same things as that person. Edit: It's this one. This is the quote I meant to post. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Sep 14, 2014 |
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Fanservice argument is kinda weird. It's ok to not have extremely strong opinions about everything. Gaius Marius posted:"Intriguingly moe" is one of those things that really makes me question the events in my life that caused me to like the same things as that person. [/quote] Hotline Miami and Dangan Ronpa are pretty similar when you think about it. stupid ctrl+c not working Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Sep 14, 2014 |
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So, uh, gonna avoid the creepy topics and just post my impressions so far. Chapter 3 was pretty bad. Like, really bad, probably worst trial in the series, at least to me. Chapter 4 on the other hand, might end up being my favorite trial in the series. Gunhdam was great, his VA hammed it up like the super villain he is. I was kinda sad to see Nidai go, but at least he went out fighting. Gundham's execution also may be one of the saddest. Those poor hamsters are all alone now  . At least they can be with him again when they go to animal heaven  Also, while it seems like I'm kinda in the minority on this, I like Chiaki. I think her stuff with Hinata is cute 
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Thundersword238 posted:So, uh, gonna avoid the creepy topics and just post my impressions so far. I think Chiaki is pretty likable as far as the fanbase goes. Not as much as Kirigiri but amongst the females I think she does pretty well.
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Thanks to this thread I googled what moe means and it is something I will never unlearn and I hate myself a little bit more now.
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Thundersword238 posted:Chapter 3 was pretty bad. Like, really bad, probably worst trial in the series, at least to me. I liked it! If only for how well the killer sells the crazy.
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Shark Tower posted:I liked it! If only for how well the killer sells the crazy. Eh, I'll admit that part was pretty good, especially if you recognize her VA as Orihime, Hinata, and similar shy girl characters, but the execution and motivation were both really lackluster, I don't get how launching into space makes any sense as a punishment for a nurse.
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Did Gundham's execution remind anyone else about The Lion King? Also, Gundham's Japanese VA was rad as gently caress at the end of chapter 4 The ending makes me wonder: Who would want to bully Sonia and Ibuki? Ibuki probably joined Ultimate Despair because she thought it was a really cool music club.
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Violet_Sky posted:Did Gundham's execution remind anyone else about The Lion King? Also, Gundham's Japanese VA was rad as gently caress at the end of chapter 4 I dunno, I could see it. Foreign princess, people are jealous, and so on.
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Halfway through chapter 5. I expected Nagito to bite it, but JEEZ I did not think it would be so brutal 
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I saw it mentioned a few times that the victims for chapter 3 were apparently swapped out. Hiyoko in particular. I personally think that she should have lasted longer. If only to wonder what the gently caress was with the picture of her at the end. Anyway could someone give me more details about this. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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MonsterEnvy posted:I saw it mentioned a few times that the victims for chapter 3 were apparently swapped out. Some korean magazine did an interview and the devs mentioned that (Chapter 2 and 3 Spoilers) Originally Kuzuryu was the second victim of Chapter 3 instead of Saionji, but they realized that would make everything Peko did in the previous chapter dumb and pointless so they scrapped it. It might not even be true (and probably isnt!). I don't even rememebr where I heard this poo poo for the first time Meowywitch fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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Volt Catfish posted:Some korean magazine did an interview and the devs mentioned that (Chapter 2 and 3 Spoilers) Originally Kuzuryu was the second victim of Chapter 3 instead of Saionji, but they realized that would make everything Peko did in the previous chapter dumb and pointless so they scrapped it. No more pointless then everything that happened with Ishimaru in the 1st game.
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MonsterEnvy posted:No more pointless then everything that happened with Ishimaru in the 1st game. The time machine burn was pretty good though?
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MonsterEnvy posted:No more pointless then everything that happened with Ishimaru in the 1st game. Doing that twice would be just tacky. Speaking of, metahumor-wise, DR1 seemed to riff on typical murder mystery tropes, and DR2 riffed on DR1. I wonder what they'll do for DR3?
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Speaking of DR2 riffing on the first game...was there ever a reason for the fake to be copying Togami aside from 'let's gently caress with the players'? Like, I get that he had his reasons for impersonating someone, but for it to be specifically Togami just felt a bit silly. I mean I understand that they wanted a shocking death without actually killing off anyone important, but to me it felt a bit of a lazy way of doing that.
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Hopeford posted:Speaking of DR2 riffing on the first game...was there ever a reason for the fake to be copying Togami aside from 'let's gently caress with the players'? Like, I get that he had his reasons for impersonating someone, but for it to be specifically Togami just felt a bit silly. I mean I understand that they wanted a shocking death without actually killing off anyone important, but to me it felt a bit of a lazy way of doing that. Noooooope.
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Hopeford posted:Speaking of DR2 riffing on the first game...was there ever a reason for the fake to be copying Togami aside from 'let's gently caress with the players'? Like, I get that he had his reasons for impersonating someone, but for it to be specifically Togami just felt a bit silly. I mean I understand that they wanted a shocking death without actually killing off anyone important, but to me it felt a bit of a lazy way of doing that. They just felt have a character named Red Herring would be a bit too on-the-nose.
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ImpAtom posted:They just felt have a character named Red Herring would be a bit too on-the-nose. It worked in A Pup Named Scooby-Doo.
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Hopeford posted:Speaking of DR2 riffing on the first game...was there ever a reason for the fake to be copying Togami aside from 'let's gently caress with the players'? Like, I get that he had his reasons for impersonating someone, but for it to be specifically Togami just felt a bit silly. I mean I understand that they wanted a shocking death without actually killing off anyone important, but to me it felt a bit of a lazy way of doing that. I belieeeeeve that during one of their free time events they imply that they took part in the Togami succession in some way, and were greatly impressed by him. From a meta perspective, yeah, they were just a red herring and weren't relevant to anything else plot-wise.
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With spoilers for the whole game, my theory is that the Imposter got put into a Togami Avatar because that was the role they were impersonating before they got put into the pod. Junko did say Togami's entire conglomerate was destroyed in the first game and who better to help her destroy it than someone who can successfully pretend to be him?
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Thundersword238 posted:Eh, I'll admit that part was pretty good, especially if you recognize her VA as Orihime, Hinata, and similar shy girl characters, but the execution and motivation were both really lackluster, I don't get how launching into space makes any sense as a punishment for a nurse. I've seen someone theorize that it's because space is really big, and in her profile it states that she doesnt like/is scared of big things. But it's still ridiculous. I feel like they could have done so much more with a hospital-themed execution.
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Over the past few days, I read all of Dangan Ronpa Zero (after finally working up the nerve to risk spoilers by googling for it), read The Worst Day in the Life of Naegi Makoto, and played all the way through Dangan Ronpa 2. So I can finally risk reading this thread! My expectations for Dangan Ronpa 2 were very high, and by and large they were met. Spoilers for Dangan Ronpa Zero: I think that the twist of Ryouko being Junko was an excellent one. After having played Dangan Ronpa, you would have thought that maybe I'd have twigged that perhaps "Junko" was Mukuro, but nooo. I'm amused by how close and yet so far I was in my guesses about Ryouko. I'd thought based on the stuff in Orenronen's translation that Ryouko might be a villain and that that could be why Zero was from her limited, amnesiac perspective, and I'd thought that maybe pre-amnesia Ryouko had formerly been using her SHSL skill as an analyst to work together with Junko, and that that's why Junko seemed to want to restore her memory (or at minimum that Junko was doing everything to try to make Ryouko fall into despair so she could recruit her). But the two of them being the same person? Didn't cross my mind. There were plenty of big clues just sitting there, though. The flashback sandcastle scene, for one, where child!Ryouko proved to be a jerk. And I completely misinterpreted the line "Its impossible to predict what someone in despair will do." from Madarai about Ryouko, thinking that it meant that Ryouko's ability wouldn't work on Junko, when what it actually was was a pointed HEY, BY THE WAY, RYOUKO IS IN DESPAIR AND IS JUNKO. And then there were Mukuro-as-Junko's comments about how "Youre a girl who can do anything when you want to. You can even kill when you want to, yknow."...and further on in the translations by people on Tumblr, things like Naegi's behaviour indicating that he used to know her pre-amnesia, and Mukuro's strange willingness to talk fairly openly to her about her relationship with her sister. And I'd need to re-read it, but the scene with the Monobear mask people thinking that Ryouko's questions were tests for them...yeah. Naegi's cameo was pretty great, as was Ryouko's thought process about his luck. Anyway, it seems to be the case that Junko's ability is actually as a SHSL Analyst. Ryouko being Junko does explain why Ryouko could be sort of random and annoying, but I still feel sort of bad for Junko-as-Ryouko. She didn't seem like total scum. And maybe the nature of Ryouko's memory loss meant that her inherent despair was squished in some ways. She's naturally someone who gets bored easily and feels she has to change her personality, but that can't happen if she she's so forgetful. Spoilers for The Worst Day in the Life of Naegi Makoto: That's some amazing bad luck he had there! If that was something he'd see as the worst day ever, he can't have been having that sort of luck constantly. So maybe what he had regularly was smaller scale things? Either that, or the bad luck only really set in after he got to Hope's Peak. But he probably had it before then. Or is it really good luck, given that in the end it allowed him to save the Dangan Ronpa students in his class from Junko, and in turn, perhaps saving some of the people watching the game on TV? Naegi has had things that looked like bad luck turn out to really be good luck in the end, like the bathroom door that got stuck. There is the implication that the luck thing is just a cycle in some ways. At any rate, what I really want to know after reading that is: was Naegi being chosen a result of his bad luck, or because of the good luck of the student whose place he took at the school? (Or I suppose it could be a combo...) Because if it's her good luck, that's some pretty amazing luck for her. Luckiest person in the series, probably living a charmed life somewhere. Maybe Naegi is just her proxy. Nameless Lucky Girl could have the luck needed to save the class and have a world with Junko dead and so on, but eh, there's no need for her to do it personally. It's interesting how there might possibly be a component of intent to the bad luck talent. Naegi would like to win a game of chance? He loses. He wants to no longer be connected to the incident with the thief? Not if this pile of total coincidences has anything to say about it. But if that sort of thing happened all the time, Naegi simply wouldn't have tried that game of rock paper scissors in the first place. 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So, does anybody have that laugh clip that Komaeda does in the English dub on file? I can't seem to find it anywhere, but it's awesome.
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Slur posted:So, does anybody have that laugh clip that Komaeda does in the English dub on file? I can't seem to find it anywhere, but it's awesome. Chapter 1 That's it, no one has uploaded the non-trial parts of the later chapters so I can't really get a clip of the other one. EDIT: Oh never mind, I lied. Captain Baal fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Sep 16, 2014 |
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Aaand finished the game. Two thoughts: Nagito was really the shining star in this game. What an incredible character from start to finish. Teruteru's motivation and death becomes even more horrifying when you realize that he himself probably killed his mother. The group being Ultimate Despair is so hosed up and something I hadn't even considered until it was revealed.
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