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Volt Catfish posted:This is a good point, how will the anime handle it? (Or maybe I'm wrong and they never actually greenlit an anime adaption of 2)
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Cosnidering the thread's length, I'm not sure if this discussion has been had, but what is everyone's interpretations on the Nagito's will section where his will glitches out, and everyone temporarily comes back to life to say one line?. Do you think it's Hajime going mad from the revelation of everyoone's deaths? Or a glitch in the matrix? Or both? Or something entirely different? I have my own thoughts, but I would like to hear everyone else's.
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Fedule posted:lots of spoilers, discussing characters' roles in the endgame. You definitely have a point there, but I feel there was a related flaw with the endgame of DR1. Togami is supposed to be super intelligent, but this is supposed to be Naegi's time to really shine, so he spends most of the last trial having kneejerk reactions to everything instead of actually helping. You would think he of all people would see a photo not containing one classmate given to him by Monokuma and not immediately jump to the conclusion that Monokuma is genuinely trying to be helpful and point him in the direction of the correct identity of the mastermind. Otherwise I agree with all your other points. Also I apologize if anyone saw the original version of this reply. I did not realize that spoiler tags do not work in quotes. Won't make that mistake again!
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Sep 18, 2014 04:55
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13/f/cali posted:You definitely have a point there, but I feel there was a related flaw with the endgame of DR1. Togami is supposed to be super intelligent, but this is supposed to be Naegi's time to really shine, so he spends most of the last trial having kneejerk reactions to everything instead of actually helping. You would think he of all people would see a photo not containing one classmate given to him by Monokuma and not immediately jump to the conclusion that Monokuma is genuinely trying to be helpful and point him in the direction of the correct identity of the mastermind. Otherwise I agree with all your other points. I'm not sure it can even be called a flaw in the first place. Part of the point of DR2 chapter 5 was that Hinata lost all his support for the class trials (Nanami and Komaeda), leaving him without anyone to rely on. This contributes to the "true hopelessness" feeling of the finale. If Sonia or whoever had stepped up to the plate as a replacement for Nanami, I don't think the emotional narrative they were trying to push would make any sense. Also spoiler tags do work in quotes. Must have been some other problem. Clarste fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Sep 18, 2014 |
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Sep 18, 2014 05:07
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Slur posted:Cosnidering the thread's length, I'm not sure if this discussion has been had, but what is everyone's interpretations on the Nagito's will section where his will glitches out, and everyone temporarily comes back to life to say one line?. Do you think it's Hajime going mad from the revelation of everyoone's deaths? Or a glitch in the matrix? Or both? Or something entirely different? I have my own thoughts, but I would like to hear everyone else's. It was most likely Junko (as it always is) making sure to lead them to the final battleground. You can probably attribute the glitches in Nagito's will to be the same, she didn't want him to spoil the plot.
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Sep 18, 2014 05:18
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Clarste posted:I'm not sure it can even be called a flaw in the first place. Part of the point of DR2 chapter 5 was that Hinata lost all his support for the class trials (Nanami and Komaeda), leaving him without anyone to rely on. This contributes to the "true hopelessness" feeling of the finale. If Sonia or whoever had stepped up the plate as a replacement for Nanami, I don't think the emotional narrative they were trying to push would make any sense. I'm glad you mentioned that. I got that feeling as well at the very end of chapter 5, when you get the count of surviving students. Both Nanami and Komaeda get ticked off right on either side of Hinata, leaving him alone in the middle. It was a nice added touch to just rub it in how brutal that whole trial was. It's morbidly funny to compare both chapter 5's and see how much worse Hinata has it. In DR1, either Naegi or Kirigiri was going to get executed, and you can see that bad end of losing Kirigiri. But it gets taken back as a joke, and you save her after all, with Naegi lucking out of the execution he was going to take in her place. So in DR2, you probably go in wondering if it's right to point out Nanami or not, and if there's a way to save her just like with Kirigiri. I'm sure that it's no coincidence that the Tetris execution is very similar to the Detention smash. Even once the execution starts, there's that tease where she sees an escape door, but nope, that doesn't help. In DR1, it seemed like either Naegi or Kirigiri would have to sacrifice themselves for the other, but they both pulled through after all. In DR2, both of the major plot characters bite it.
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Finished DR2 and I have to heap praise on the incredible post-trial sequence where the world breaks down completely after Chiaki's execution. Some unsettling stuff to play through, especially when the cast actually seemed to think Nagito was the only person who ever died. Actually just chapter 5, and Nagito's character in general were absolutely outstanding. For a fun bonus bit, check the cottages of the dead people after chapter 5 trial. Only Nagito's gets the normal regretful remark from Hajime, the other dead people's cottages have some glitchy poo poo going on.
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Sep 18, 2014 17:40
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Tonfa posted:For a fun bonus bit, check the cottages of the dead people after chapter 5 trial. Only Nagito's gets the normal regretful remark from Hajime, the other dead people's cottages have some glitchy poo poo going on. I think I read on tumblr or somewhere that the lines you get here are warped versions of what appear to be the dead kids' last thoughts.
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kidcoelacanth posted:I think I read on tumblr or somewhere that the lines you get here are warped versions of what appear to be the dead kids' last thoughts. I forgot, in addition to the cottages there is this. 
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Sep 18, 2014 18:31
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We now have photos for the entire cast of the DR stage show. I have to say I'm pretty impressed with the costumes and makeup on this production.
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Sep 19, 2014 06:34
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I'm so curious about this whole thing - I wonder how they're going to represent the executions. I imagine it'll come out on DVD later so I'll have to wait until then to check it out.
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Sep 19, 2014 07:57
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Tonfa posted:and Nagito's character in general were absolutely outstanding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVdSVZILszI
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Sep 19, 2014 21:48
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Anatharon posted:
He also has concurrent frontotemporal dementia. AKA the makes you go a bit nuts condition, because the front of your brain is dying. Also his cancer is stage 3. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Sep 19, 2014 22:20
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The worst part of never being able to browse for Danganronpa related anything due to being on Constant High Alert for spoilers is that you miss things like there being masses of videos of standup comedy delivered by Danganronpa sprites. Guys, the character artwork in this series is really good.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:29
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Terper posted:For real though, Nagito is easily the best written character in the series. I love everything about the guy, he's amazing no matter the mood, the context, the dialogue, whatever. Top tier, one of my favorite video game characters ever. I think what I like most about Nagito is that he represents the fact that the cast this time around is a lot more broken then the cast from the first game. Glad to see that clip again as it has been awhile since I last watched it. Hunt11 fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Sep 19, 2014 22:30
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MonsterEnvy posted:He also has concurrent frontotemporal dementia. AKA the makes you go a bit nuts condition, because the front of your brain is dying. Also his cancer is stage 3. Not to mention that in his POV manga his dead dog was actually run over by a truck, and at least twenty(?) people have died as a result of his luck. Since his life apparently wasn't enough of a train-wreck already. Terper posted:For real though, Nagito is easily the best written character in the series. I love everything about the guy, he's amazing no matter the mood, the context, the dialogue, whatever. Top tier, one of my favorite video game characters ever. A lot of the Dangan Ronpa sprite videos on Youtube are surprisingly good. Call me a heretic, but I think the expressions make that particular one actually funnier than the original video.
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Sep 19, 2014 22:56
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Where y'all getting the Komeada had cancer thing from? The manga?
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Sep 19, 2014 22:59
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kidcoelacanth posted:Where y'all getting the Komeada had cancer thing from? The manga? He mentions it in his last free time event, along with the dementia. I think it was stage III lymphoma?
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Sep 19, 2014 23:02
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kidcoelacanth posted:Where y'all getting the Komeada had cancer thing from? The manga?
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Sep 19, 2014 23:03
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kidcoelacanth posted:Where y'all getting the Komeada had cancer thing from? The manga? Also, it's probably why his hair's white. That doesn't explain the girl with bright red hair though.
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Sep 19, 2014 23:29
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It's a loving Japanese game inspired by anime.
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Beef Waifu posted:It's a loving Japanese game inspired by anime. Let's not cut corners here, it's an anime game.
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Sep 19, 2014 23:43
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He also says he borrowed parts of his story from a novel or some such for sympathy, so I don't know how much of what he said is actually true.
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Sep 19, 2014 23:44
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Yeah, I always got the impression that he was bullshitting.
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Sep 19, 2014 23:52
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Yeah his free time event ends with him going "haha, gotcha!" Not to mention that it couldn't really be true because he isn't the age he thinks he is and he'd be dead from cancer if he really did have it.
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Supplementary materials and the games creator revealed He was not bullshitting, he was lying that he was bullshitting. He just lasted longer then the Doctors predicted he would. Despite this there is implications that he is the only one of the dead students that is really dead. Speculation is that his body gave out and died while he was in the program.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Supplementary materials and the games creator revealed He was not bullshitting, he was lying that he was bullshitting. He just lasted longer then the Doctors predicted he would. Despite this there is implications that he is the only one of the dead students that is really dead. Speculation is that his body gave out and died while he was in the program. Pretty much. It's more like "Wow! You're really holding out a long time! How incredibly lucky." Nagito is one of the most interesting characters in any game I've played. He reminds me a bit of Riddick; You sort of need him but he's reallly unreliable. Fedule posted:Yeah, I always got the impression that he was bullshitting. I don't recall offhand where I read it, but I remember it being mentioned that before Monobear showed up Naigto was planning on committing suicide anyways. Bifauxnen posted:Tetris execution is very similar to the Detention smash. That was incredibly elaborate even for this series. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Sep 20, 2014 |
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Fedule posted:The worst part of never being able to browse for Danganronpa related anything due to being on Constant High Alert for spoilers is that you miss things like there being masses of videos of standup comedy delivered by Danganronpa sprites. This one's my favorite. Congratulations Hajime, your true talent was "Comedian" all this time!
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The end of Chapter 5 almost had me crying. "All All Apologies" at the end made me wish Nanami didn't have to die.  On a lighter note... I thought that Avril Lavigne was just random nonsense, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiaYDPRedWQ Violet_Sky fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Sep 20, 2014 |
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Terper posted:This one's my favorite. Congratulations Hajime, your true talent was "Comedian" all this time! This one was good too, but they mis-timed Nidai a little bit. He should have shown up juuuust a bit later.
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Violet_Sky posted:I thought that Avril Lavigne was just random nonsense, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiaYDPRedWQ
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I don't know how much of a thing that was in the Japanese version, but in English version Hanamura seems to just randomly say names of female celebrities during his breakdown. We already have the random "Avril Lavigne!", he refers to Chiaki as "Cher" at some point, and during his PTA sometimes he'll yell "Paris Hilton!". I'm still not sure what they were even going for with that.
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Fedule posted:I don't know how much of a thing that was in the Japanese version, but in English version Hanamura seems to just randomly say names of female celebrities during his breakdown. We already have the random "Avril Lavigne!", he refers to Chiaki as "Cher" at some point, and during his PTA sometimes he'll yell "Paris Hilton!". I'm still not sure what they were even going for with that. I don't know my dialects very well but I think him saying "Cher" is a bastardization of the French "Chere" that Cajun people happen to use. At the very least I've seen other fictional characters using it a bunch in the same way. They have their own version of French in Louisiana that sounds pretty odd to the common person.
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Fedule posted:I don't know how much of a thing that was in the Japanese version, but in English version Hanamura seems to just randomly say names of female celebrities during his breakdown. We already have the random "Avril Lavigne!", he refers to Chiaki as "Cher" at some point, and during his PTA sometimes he'll yell "Paris Hilton!". I'm still not sure what they were even going for with that. He calls other people that too so it's probably more along the lines of 'mon cher'.
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Fedule posted:I don't know how much of a thing that was in the Japanese version, but in English version Hanamura seems to just randomly say names of female celebrities during his breakdown. We already have the random "Avril Lavigne!", he refers to Chiaki as "Cher" at some point, and during his PTA sometimes he'll yell "Paris Hilton!". I'm still not sure what they were even going for with that. "Cher" is just a thing they use for that kind of accent, it isn't a celebrity reference.
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A PV for DR:AE and another game called Chain Chronicle has been posted to Youtube, Fujisaki Taichi has been added to the characters page of the official website, and a new tab has been added to the bottom of the front page. The new tab apparently contains spoilers of some kind?
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Bloody Emissary posted:The new tab apparently contains spoilers of some kind? No, it's the same as they always do - a request to not post spoilers for the game online and to only post post gameplay videos up to chapter 1. They've always been cute with this: this time it's presented as a demand from the Warriors of Hope, with a list of punishments for those who disobey ("we will pour glue into your Vita's d-pad").
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orenronen posted:No, it's the same as they always do - a request to not post spoilers for the game online and to only post post gameplay videos up to chapter 1. They've always been cute with this: this time it's presented as a demand from the Warriors of Hope, with a list of punishments for those who disobey ("we will pour glue into your Vita's d-pad"). If they were truly cruel it'd be the right analog stick.
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njsykora posted:If they were truly cruel it'd be the right analog stick. How could you tell?
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Super late to the party, but DR2 Chapter 6: I thought that in the LP, Oren said it wasn't a VR/Computer thing. Did I imagine that? Also, I'll admit I laughed when they said that Hope's Peak is probably nostalgic for "someone."
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