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Soylent Heliotrope posted:I just finished DR1 for the first time and loved it. I went in totally blind on the game- pretty much all I knew about it was that it was loosely similar to Ace Attorney. (Anime murder mystery games are a weak spot of mine, I guess.) Well it was explained that they were actually steel arrows that may or may not have been taped together in case 5. although I'm not sure how Junko made it look so fancy. I guess she created a mechanism to shoot the arrows up through the floor or it was also a stylistic choice
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Raenir Salazar posted:Gotta say though, still really not sure what Komaeda's motive was the whole game, or what it was after he learned everyone was Despair? Before he learned everyone was SHSL Despair, his motive was to foster a great hope in the face of despair. However what he defines as "hope" is "who's hope wins in the end?" He supported Teruteru because his hope was to stop Komaeda from murdering Togami, leave the island and see his mother again and that's why he acted the way he did. Similarly he was vicious against Mikan because what she did wasn't in the name of hope, but to cause despair. She had no greater motivation or wish in her heart that caused her to kill two people and that's what he can't forgive. When he learns everyone is SHSL Despair, including himself, he realizes that the Future Foundation and the traitor must be working against despair and for hope. It's basically what the end of the trial lays out: he created a situation where the traitor would be blamed for his death on his luck and no one would figure it out. When everyone guesses wrong, the traitor goes free and the remaining SHSL Despair get killed and thus hope prevails. Overall he's basically the opposite of Junko. She finds enjoyment in despair and will give people hope just to see them fall into despair. Komaeda wants to give people hope to see them succeed, but for that to happen a great despair must come first so that there's something to overcome.
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Jan 1, 2015 19:53
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lotus circle posted:Spoilers for DR2 Case 5 So did he misunderstand the motives of Nanami and the Future Foundation and is that what Namami meant if things had been different he wouldn't have gone as far?
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Jan 1, 2015 20:04
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Raenir Salazar posted:So did he misunderstand the motives of Nanami and the Future Foundation and is that what Namami meant if things had been different he wouldn't have gone as far?
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Jan 1, 2015 20:20
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Well, technically, the Future Foundation did want to kill off the rest of the Despairs, and it was only Naegi and crew (and Chiaki and Monomi) who were trying to restore them.
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Jan 1, 2015 20:21
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Raenir Salazar posted:So did he misunderstand the motives of Nanami and the Future Foundation and is that what Namami meant if things had been different he wouldn't have gone as far? He likely understood. The guy tends to be on the ball about situations, but he was insane and dying so I would say he wanted to go down with a bang and take despair with him.
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Jan 1, 2015 20:22
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Nagito's the best character in the series.
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Jan 1, 2015 20:26
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Terper posted:Nagito's the best character in the series. When it occurred to me that the Akagi/Liar Game moment with the revolver perfectly matched up with the survivors and fire grenades my response was basically "You magnificent bastard." Reading up some stuff but, Komaeda basically if he does wake up is going to end up with the short straw again isn't he?
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Jan 1, 2015 20:30
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lotus circle posted:Yes. He thought the Future Foundation wanted to wipe out SHSL Despair, which is what Monobear had been saying since chapter 2, so that was his way of helping out what he sees as the symbol of hope. Huh, I had read his primary motive for that as wanting to make sure that the traitor (who he thought was the one genuine symbol of hope in the group) would survive, rather than as wanting to kill off all of SHSL Despair. That definitely sounds in line with the explanation he gave of his motives in Another Episode, though.
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Jan 2, 2015 02:51
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Raenir Salazar posted:When it occurred to me that the Akagi/Liar Game moment with the revolver perfectly matched up with the survivors and fire grenades my response was basically "You magnificent bastard." There's a strong implication he's not going to make it that far; his Free Time events reveal he had a short amount of time to live due to late stage lymphoma.
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Jan 2, 2015 02:59
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Nagito Komaeda is the bomb diggity
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Raenir Salazar posted:
Komaeda will probably be alright considering he survived up to now so far despite his illness and lack of sanity. I got the impression he knew what how they were trying to save the Despair but he just didn't care for them. His main goal was the creation of hope and it would've gone against his principles to allow Despair back into irl even if they were redeemed.
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Terper posted:Nagito's the best character in the series. He's the best written one of the series for sure, and definitely one of the best ive seen in any game. shame cause that means he'll be the mascot of the series now and shoved and alluded to everywhere
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Jan 2, 2015 07:11
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lotus circle posted:Spoilers for DR2 Case 5 this is all correct and im honestly a bit shocked when a lot of people say he makes no sense and acts irrationally. Sure he's deranged but his own logic is consistent. ApplesandOranges posted:There's a strong implication he's not going to make it that far; his Free Time events reveal he had a short amount of time to live due to late stage lymphoma. IIRC it was implied if not outright told that he only had something like 6 months to live, but amazingly he managed to live some more excruciating, debilitating time. How lucky.
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But can you trust Nagito when he says that he's sick? I was never totally sure if he wasn't crazy and lying during that scene. EDIT: ps, happy birthday yesterday to Hinata Bean fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Jan 2, 2015 |
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Jan 2, 2015 14:55
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Bean posted:But can you trust Nagito when he says that he's sick? I was never totally sure if he wasn't crazy and lying during that scene. The weird thing about his character is how he seems be the only honest person Hajime can trust on the island. Everyone is almost always lying during the trial for his or her own reasons but Nagito tells 100% of the truth but at a slant. We honestly don't know if he's joking or not about himself during Free Time events.
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Bean posted:But can you trust Nagito when he says that he's sick? I was never totally sure if he wasn't crazy and lying during that scene. The manga indicates that he's probably being at least mostly truthful there. Keep in mind the kind of cancer. It effects the brain, right? Raenir Salazar posted:If I was to come up with one 'criticism' even among the remaining survivors towards the end, only Hinata and Chiaki got any development. A small exception is learning Gundamn's 8th Grade Syndrome isn't all talk and he has some principles underneath the verbosity he earnestly believes in as well as with Nidai; basically I feel you get a good sense of them as people but they don't really develop or have arcs as characters. How'd Chiaki get any character development? Regardless, I think the idea is that all of the survivors got at least a little character development because instead of ditching all the comatose people to go do whatever, they stick around in hopes of helping them recover.
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Komaeda is so cool he has an ENTIRE spinoff manga about him, right? I await the video game where you make simple day-to-day life decisions in the life of Nagito Komaeda
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Volt Catfish posted:Komaeda is so cool he has an ENTIRE spinoff manga about him, right? I've only read a bit of it and I have no idea how long it is, but yeah. I didn't dislike any of the cast but I really liked Hinata, Chiaki and Nagito. Together they're some of the more interesting characters in video games, low bar that that is. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Jan 2, 2015 |
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Jan 2, 2015 18:21
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Volt Catfish posted:Komaeda is so cool he has an ENTIRE spinoff manga about him, right? Favorite part where I got to control Komaeda during the fun house section I know Hajime is a great MC but I wouldn't have minded staying w/the latter until the very end of the game. His thinking processes is just everywhere and I'm loving every moment .
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Anatharon posted:The manga indicates that he's probably being at least mostly truthful there. Chiaki starts off as this sorta stereotype of a sleepy gamer who doesn't do all that much and lacks some common sense (Foreshadowing!) who turns into our main pointman during the trials and the rock Hajime depends on for support and becomes gradually the most proactive member of the cast besides Hajime or Komaeda. I'd argue that's development. Remember her goal was just to observe but by the end she's doing much more.
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Volt Catfish posted:the life of Nagito Komaeda jesus that'd be torture
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Jan 2, 2015 22:20
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I finally decided to go back and get the last trophy I needed - the one for getting all of Monomi's minigame items. It didn't take nearly as long as I thought it would. Now half of my Platinum trophies are from Dangan Ronpa games  .
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If anyone cares, DR Unlimited Battle is now available on the Japanese iOS App Store. I played through the tutorial. This isn't just a ripoff of Monster Strike, it's as direct a skin-deep clone as it can be. Everything about it is exactly the same, down to the look of the reward screen. The only innovation is the brief 3D transitions (which are pretty bad). It's also a very lazy clone - no polish whatsoever, and downright ugly at times. There's no story at all, nor any justification to why you're using DR characters as pinball warriors, so don't expect some fun on that front either.
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Aw, that's disappointing to know - I was hoping that bashing DR characters against each other for no logical reason might at least be fun. Guess I can just ignore it and be better off, then. On one hand its interesting to know that DR has reached the 'pointless knock-off sidegame' level of popularity, on the other its weird that its characters from the first game only at this point. I wonder if they'll make of those boring, aggravating mobile social games next.
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How does the translation of the Hope's Peak Academy student title work in context of Another? Penultimates?
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I've started watching the english dub on youtube for DR2 as I generally get some extra enjoyment from a good localization. I'm not necessarily some purist who thinks there's no reason to watch a dub though I generally prefer the original Japanese acting in most cases and okay with the dub version usually; and DR2's choices seem generally pretty decent but: Holy poo poo. Am I the only one or am I right that Komaeda's english actor is entirely inappropriate? There's something keenly unreal about how he speaks and sounds almost entirely unlike how the character looks, at the very least Komaedo looks somewhat sickly, his dub sounds like a very healthy individual. Hajime is spot on though.
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I think Komaeda sounding like a cheery dude that has no problems is a pretty good fit for his character especially after he loses his loving mind because then Pappenbrook goes insane.
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Jan 24, 2015 23:51
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Someone has never played Fire Emblem Awakening to understand why Bryce Papenbrook was a loving fantastic fit for Komaeda.
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Raenir Salazar posted:I've started watching the english dub on youtube for DR2 as I generally get some extra enjoyment from a good localization. That's pretty much why he's perfect for the role.
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Beef Waifu posted:I think Komaeda sounding like a cheery dude that has no problems is a pretty good fit for his character especially after he loses his loving mind because then Pappenbrook goes insane. Do you mean his crazy laugh in Chapter 1? His laugh is great I'm just not digging his normal speech pattern.  I think its because his voice I feel is a tad too deep sounding and more appropriate for an older or more athletic seeming character.quote:Someone has never played Fire Emblem Awakening to understand why Bryce Papenbrook was a loving fantastic fit for Komaeda. Goddamnit, stop making me buy systems for just one* game! *I got the Vita for Persona 4 and DR2, I'm not really sure what else to get now to justify the system beyond for game development reasons. My rule of thumb is I should spend roughly twice the amount of the cost of the system on games.
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Well Papenbrook is starting to grow on me, I think I just needed time to adjust to how different his voice is. Watching Another, usually I'm impressed by the writing in this series but I guess at some point you can't subvert expectations forever, the tragedy you're forced to watch sorta unfold at points is just saddening if you're at all sympathethic to the characters. Another spoilers for up to chapter 2ish: Particularly I'm both sad at the obvious plot of poor communication possibly resulting in Asahina's brother dying (and who knows what else from Komaru not knowing Naegi is still alive) and that Touko herself is absolutely devastated at having to eventually face Asahina about it later.
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It's cool that there's a bunch of untranslated Japanese text in the official English release of SDR2. It's really great that, during the Chapter 2 trial, whenever the game flashes back to Twilight Syndrome Murder Mystery, it just shows a screenshot of the Japanese version of the game, full of Japanese text. That's wonderful. Thanks
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Instant Grat posted:It's cool that there's a bunch of untranslated Japanese text in the official English release of SDR2. It's really great that, during the Chapter 2 trial, whenever the game flashes back to Twilight Syndrome Murder Mystery, it just shows a screenshot of the Japanese version of the game, full of Japanese text. That's wonderful. Thanks It's actually bug from playing with Japanese Audio. I remember this being brought up back when it was released. It should be in English if you use the English Dub. EDIT: mateo360 posted:I don't remember seeing Japanese text. I was looking on NISA's forum since a google search about this lead me to their site, it seems it might be a bug with using the Japanese audio over the English. Can anyone confirm they saw it playing the English audio? Clarste posted:I was switching back and forth between English and Japanese audio every chapter, and I only ever saw Japanese text on Japanese audio. I guess it might have been a coincidence, but I was very sure while playing that it came from being on Japanese audio. mateo360 fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jan 29, 2015 |
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Jan 29, 2015 17:03
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If the alternative is to have to listen to Wooldor Sockbat by way of Gilbert Gottfried as the voice of Monokuma I'll probably survive tbh
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Scrap Dragon posted:The English release of DR1 features School Mode right?
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I picked DR2 up again. I'm on chapter 3. Why the gently caress doesn't Hajime think anything of finding Sonia locked in Hiyoko's room? I mean, this is the series where ONE PERSON thought to look at bloodied numbers upside down, but finding someone in the room of someone who just died with the door locked behind them isn't the least bit suspicious? Butt Ghost fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Jan 31, 2015 |
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If you haven't learned yet, you'll soon learn that Case 3 is the worst case in the series.
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Butt Ghost posted:I picked DR2 up again. I'm on chapter 3. I'm pretty sure that was an error, I think its meant to be Sonia coming in right after him.
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