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Raenir Salazar posted:
I really loathe these new mini games. The new version of hangman's gambit, the sword game, and logic drive annoy the poo poo out of me. A lot in DR2 annoys the poo poo out of me, which is unfortunate because I really like the first one.
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I enjoyed the new mini games excluding the "improved" hangman's gambit. It's more gamey I guess but it is also super confusing. I didn't start to get used to it until the last case and it was too late by then.
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Feb 1, 2015 01:07
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I really wish there wasn't that locked door error earlier, because that colored my perception of the case. The entire time I was thinking Sonia told Ibuki to wait at Titty Typhoon for Hiyoko, kill her, then off herself. Then she went to Hiyoko's room and told her to go check out TT's mirror. But there's nothing in Hiyoko's room that Sonia would have needed to go back for, so I guess I shouldn't have assumed anything.
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Feb 1, 2015 02:15
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Frankly its entirely possible that originally meant for Sonia to be the culprit. It'd be kinda nice if they made a murder mystery visual novel games like this but who the murderer's end up being are based on your choices in finding out people's issues and resolving them. Bonus points if its a time travel plot and the goal is to entirely prevent all the murders. Yes I know Higurashi is kinda similar but I want something more DR styled.
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Feb 1, 2015 02:29
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Mikan committing murder by not being in her right mind seems a bit cheap to me. What's the point of providing motives if you can just make someone believe they're Junko or some poo poo, then let them go hog wild? Also the murder time confusion and imitation murder bullshit seemed really pointless and made things needlessly complicated. Why did Mikan even need to hide Hiyoko? Hell, why even film the "live suicide?" Was that all just to create a motive? Am I just not wrapping my head around this correctly? Oh it's because the disease let her remember she's Junko's groupie or whatever. Better than just getting a murder disease I guess. Still, this all feels a bit convoluted. Holy poo poo Robomaru is fantastic, everything is forgiven. Butt Ghost fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Feb 1, 2015 |
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Feb 1, 2015 03:50
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The answer to all those questions is that DR2 is a terribly written game, with the exception of one chapter.
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Feb 1, 2015 17:11
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I just started chapter 4.
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Feb 1, 2015 17:30
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The disease is meant to get a "well that's just unfair" reaction, not disagreeing with the rest of the case being a mess though.
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Feb 2, 2015 05:15
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Ometeotl posted:The answer to all those questions is that DR2 is a terribly written game, with the exception of one chapter. Why do you say that? It's not AMAZING; I wouldn't even consider it the best writing in a video game, but I don't think it's terrible. e: I am not just saying that because I like political commentary relatively smoothly worked in.
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Anatharon posted:e: I am not just saying that because I like political commentary relatively smoothly worked in. I think I missed out on this part? Yeah story line was about something but not really sure what exactly.
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Feb 2, 2015 23:31
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Alder posted:I think I missed out on this part? Yeah story line was about something but not really sure what exactly. Okay "political" is completely the wrong term but I kept using it, so my bad there. "Social" commentary would be more accurate.
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Feb 4, 2015 03:45
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Butt Ghost posted:I just started chapter 4. Yeah everything should come together better by the end.
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Feb 4, 2015 04:06
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Finished SDR2 just now. That ending... eh, it didn't feel earned, too much Deus Ex Machina. If you shut down the program, you'll lose your memories from the island! ...but then that doesn't happen, because the power of friendship, I guess? Or hope? Who gave Hinata a haircut after he woke up from the simulation Is there any hope of the third-person spin-off getting released in English? Another Story or whatever it was called.
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Feb 12, 2015 22:53
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Instant Grat posted:Finished SDR2 just now. That ending... eh, it didn't feel earned, too much Deus Ex Machina. If you shut down the program, you'll lose your memories from the island! ...but then that doesn't happen, because the power of friendship, I guess? Or hope? Who gave Hinata a haircut after he woke up from the simulation I thought you were skiing.
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Feb 13, 2015 00:28
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Instant Grat posted:Finished SDR2 just now. That ending... eh, it didn't feel earned, too much Deus Ex Machina. If you shut down the program, you'll lose your memories from the island! ...but then that doesn't happen, because the power of friendship, I guess? Or hope? Who gave Hinata a haircut after he woke up from the simulation You gotta remember that the games are fairly meta, most games have a Win/Lose Because FATE sort of ending, and being forced to choose between two despairing choices just screams that they cannot shake free from their fate/past no matter what their current experiences should have earned them. Hinata appeared to have awaken his SHSL "Hope" powers in order to persevere and leave things to chance that regardless of what HAPPENED they still have it within their hands to create a new future for themselves and screw whatever destiny others are trying to 'force' them to abide by. So this is metaphorically breaking through the meta of games only have certain predetermined endings to form their own that they earned. Remember as well that Monomi had been complaining that "If only I had my stick!" at least once every chapter, that's foreshadowing if anything and well, Chiaki being an AI suggests that could Monobear really completely kill/delete her when he/she can't even manage it for Alter Ego? What happened is that the original restriction that Junko/Monobear forced on them was overrided by Monomi, so they got to fulfill the original purpose of the artificial world of being reuploaded back into their bodies, but with their old memories as well.
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Feb 13, 2015 02:37
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Suspicious Dish posted:I thought you were skiing. I brought my Vita with me, for the evenings 
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It's been awhile since I played through the game but I thought it was more of a hazy dreamy memory of things as opposed to just straight up remembering what happened. But I guess they were also planning on staying in the hope of waking up the 'dead' people so maybe not? I dunno.  Raenir Salazar posted:anything and well, Chiaki being an AI suggests that could Monobear really completely kill/delete her when he/she can't even manage it for Alter Ego? What are you trying to say here? Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Feb 19, 2015 |
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Feb 19, 2015 17:57
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Anatharon posted:It's been awhile since I played through the game but I thought it was more of a hazy dreamy memory of things as opposed to just straight up remembering what happened. But I guess they were also planning on staying in the hope of waking up the 'dead' people so maybe not? I dunno. Chiaki is an AI. Alter Ego is an AI. Monokuma/Junko is an AI. Monokuma "took over" the virtual world, and yet, cannot delete Alter Ego and doesn't have full 100% control. So perhaps, the reason why Chiaki is still present despite ostensibly being executed as a metaphor for being deleted is because Monokuma wasn't succesful in fully deleting her the sameway Monokuma wasn't successful in deleting Alter Ego.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:45
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https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/568602274404159488 Another Episode confirmed for US release.
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Feb 20, 2015 03:20
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I await the controversy and lots of scathing articles about the content.
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Feb 20, 2015 05:03
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Ometeotl posted:I await the controversy and lots of scathing articles about the content. Would it be the same anime/PSV thread w/o it?
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njsykora posted:https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/568602274404159488 I'll buy it as long as I don't have to listen to English Monobear
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Feb 20, 2015 11:29
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Instant Grat posted:I'll buy it as long as I don't have to listen to English Monobear Monobear has virtually no lines in this game, don't worry. Being as vague as I possibly can here, I do wonder if they'll keep the kurokuma/shirokuma voice actors secret/gimmick thing. I don't think they will. Honestly, despite my best tries I couldn't tell who they were in Japanese until the very end, and I'm not sure if the American actors are that good at doing separate voices.
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Feb 20, 2015 13:09
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Well you won't have to worry about the English voices, you're not gonna find out who they are anyway! 
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I don't have any complaints about Monobear's English voice, to be honest. My only complaint about the translation was when they referred to the culprit as "blackened" or something like that instead of a more natural sounding word. I'm sure they had a reason for it, but man it read off really awkwardly. Like to be fair it wasn't even used that often, but whenever it was I remember just thinking "C'mon. Say culprit. Say culprit. Say--goddamn it." Just sounded weird. I'm gonna pass on Another Episode. I might be in the minority here, but I'm actually not a huge fan of the series' character writing or world building. Not really my thing, not a huge fan of the tone by itself. I usually play the series for the murder mysteries. Take those away and I'm just not very interested in it, especially considering the actual content in the game makes me more than a little uncomfortable. Will get back to the series the moment they announce a new murder mystery game, though.
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Feb 20, 2015 16:40
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So is Another Episode actually good? Is it something worth going through?
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Kotoko pins Komaru to a wall and you have to play a mini game to stop hands from molesting you. The story tries to justify it with Kotoko's backstory but then things get worse with the other kids. Budget Prefuse posted:
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Feb 20, 2015 17:58
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Butt Ghost posted:So is Another Episode actually good? Is it something worth going through? Depends on your tolerance of anime tropes and free time. There's summaries and spoilers in the DR wiki already posted but it felt like spin-off than actual continuation of the series to me. I'm on the fence myself as there's no completely new characters introduced but Komaeda. Perhaps, I'll buy it once it goes on sale in a 6-8 months later on.
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I've been watching the Another lets play and on Chapter 2, its definately still fits much of the tone the games provide, so if you liked DR for being DR I think you'll like another. That and Komaru is funny whenever she brags about beating little kids in kid games.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:57
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Those hosed up minigames, though.
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Feb 20, 2015 20:44
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I mean, is the gameplay good, or the plot at least interesting in some regard?
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Feb 20, 2015 21:06
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Butt Ghost posted:I mean, is the gameplay good, or the plot at least interesting in some regard? The former is more eeeeeh, very simple TPS; the latter is definitely true thus far. I mean c'mon, Komaeda shows up!
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Suspicious Dish posted:Questionable minigame. My take on that scene, knowing Kodaka, is that it's a failed attempt at parody of the unfortunate Vita anime-game trope where you have use the touch screen to rub anime girls in compromising positions. This one looks almost exactly the same, except you are trying to get hands away from the heroine -- the best outcome is if catch them all before they even reach her body. The problem is that it's not very good in either writing or in execution, and will just take discussion away from the much more interesting discussion about the way the game deals with child abuse (both mental and sexual) and whether it's handled appropriately or not. One of the most interesting things about this game, as far as I'm concerned, is that it easily and constantly passes the Bechdel test. This is much rarer that it should be.
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Butt Ghost posted:So is Another Episode actually good? Is it something worth going through? As a person who quite liked Dangan Ronpa: No. orenronen posted:One of the most interesting things about this game, as far as I'm concerned, is that it easily and constantly passes the Bechdel test. This is much rarer that it should be. Duke Nukem Forever passes the Bechdel test. Raenir Salazar posted:
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Feb 20, 2015 22:57
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orenronen posted:One of the most interesting things about this game, as far as I'm concerned, is that it easily and constantly passes the Bechdel test. This is much rarer that it should be. The Bechdel test has no merit on an individual work. Its only use is as a broad look at the industry/genre/writer/whatever using all the various samples.
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Anatharon posted:Duke Nukem Forever passes the Bechdel test. Fine. It's a Japanese game not specifically designed for women that features two female protagonists (as well as a female main antagonist) with significant character arcs and a reverse damsel-in-distress plot.
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Feb 20, 2015 23:24
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Ometeotl posted:The Bechdel test has no merit on an individual work. Its only use is as a broad look at the industry/genre/writer/whatever using all the various samples. Its possible to take this too far in that direction, while it shouldn't be used as the End-All-Be-All "Tick off the check box!" for determining the feminist value in an individual work, I think it has some value which as Orenronen* points out is easily substantiated. *I misspelt your name three times trying to type this, I suck.
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orenronen posted:Fine. It's a Japanese game not specifically designed for women that features two female protagonists (as well as a female main antagonist) with significant character arcs and a reverse damsel-in-distress plot. I just want to chime in that I think it's worth playing for that but also if you like Touko, because I think her character development is incredibly touching in this game. I also just thought Komaru was really cool and they make a good team. The game was definitely weird and I had problems with some of it but I don't regret buying/playing it.
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