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I just finished the first trial of V3. While the twists were interesting, needless to say I hated how it ended and I feel like the game is a lot worse now because of it.
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Just finished V3 (ending spoilers): I liked this ending but I can also see why people wouldn't like the ending. I don't necessarily know if I thought it was a great ending, but it did make me laugh quite a lot. The reveal that V3 is 53 was just too funny. One thought I had is, given the meta reveal, does this mean the game's demo actually happened? edit: After finishing chapter 5, my theory was that the game was being run by a clone of Junko and that they really were the last 16 people, and she's been using clones of them and the flashback lights to run the game over and over, sort of a Danganronpa take on I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream. Thinking about this ending some more, I like it on the grounds that it was entertaining, but I think it kind of cheapens parts in the story leading up to that because for anyone who was invested in what was really happening with the meteors and if there were survivors, suddenly none of it has any bearing on anything. I guess Kokichi would have gotten a kick out of it, but he wasn't alive to learn the truth. Nep-Nep fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Oct 1, 2017 |
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Oct 1, 2017 22:35
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Also finished V3 today, it was awesome and the ending was awesome and I'm glad so many people are mad about it.
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Oct 2, 2017 00:39
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Selane posted:Also finished V3 today, it was awesome and the ending was awesome and I'm glad so many people are mad about it. This game was really awesome and well done. So they're not doing sequels after that right? I feel it'd cheapen the hell outta that twist. What with the whole "Look you guys[the player] are monsters for enjoying watching people die for amusement" thing. I was really hoping the meteors thing wasn't real because I feel they where writing themselves into a corner if it was legit meteors done killed everyone on earth and the Ultimates where the last survivors. Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Oct 2, 2017 |
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Oct 2, 2017 00:50
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I think chapter 5 is my favorite part. After everything Kokichi did, the fact that he died just to troll the poo poo out of Monokuma is quite funny and very in character for him.
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Oct 2, 2017 01:59
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After spending the day playing through the game with a few friends, my thoughts: (game spoilers)Every since she wouldn't stop going on about how plain she is, I expected her to kill someone. The minute the culprit of 5 was revealed, I immediately went "Whelp, guess she's the mastermind then", and the stinger showing Junko only cemented it. I actually preferred her non-mastermind self. Mastermind Tsumugi just came off as one-note and cliched, and not in the entertaining way Junko was. And honestly a lot of Chapter 6 made me apathetic to the whole game. (I'm still gonna finish the game on my system so I can access the bonus content, though  )Character-wise, I really liked the cast. They were a decent mix of the two previous casts, being flashy like 2's but more believable like 1's were. Standout for me were: -Miu, who may be one of my favorite characters in the franchise. A really well-written character that on paper sounds like a badly written one. -Gonta, just for being an all-around cool guy. -Maki for being a neat mix of Kyoko and Mukuro. I liked Kiibo, Ryoma, Kaito and pre-6 Tsumugi. Least favorite characters were Kokichi, Tenko, Angie and mastermind Tsumugi. Even if they were written to not be very likeable, they still really grated on me. All in all, a good game, but it could really be better. Was meh on the ending.
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Oct 2, 2017 03:14
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KildarX posted:This game was really awesome and well done. So they're not doing sequels after that right? I feel it'd cheapen the hell outta that twist. Kodaka has publicly said he's taking an unlimited break from the franchise. He also vaguely suggested that there's DR-related stuff in development at Spike-Chunsoft (which he's not involved with), which would make sense since it *is* their most successful franchise in years. I doubt we'll see an actual numbered sequel anytime soon - my guess is they're going to do a Persona and use the characters in other genres. Kodaka himself said several times he'd like to see a fighting game with the DR cast.
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Oct 2, 2017 03:28
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I honestly can't believe people don't like Tenko, she's so great
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Oct 2, 2017 03:46
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Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:I honestly can't believe people don't like Tenko, she's so great  This sprite made me laugh so hard when I first saw it.
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Oct 2, 2017 04:00
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KildarX posted:
Apparently the other students hate her so much they tied a bell around her neck so they can more easily avoid her.
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Oct 2, 2017 04:07
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I'm sure she's fine with being avoided by a bunch of degenerate males
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Oct 2, 2017 04:14
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Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:I honestly can't believe people don't like Tenko, she's so great Being a gay woman myself she's my favorite but I can understand why others don't like her. I feel if they just toned down her endless and pointless, since she doesn't really even believe it tick, she'd be received better. Then again, Tenko ranks relatively high on popularity polls so I dunno Meowywitch fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Oct 2, 2017 |
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Oct 2, 2017 04:35
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Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:I honestly can't believe people don't like Tenko, she's so great She keeps insulting perfect gentleman Gonta and it makes me mad.
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Oct 2, 2017 05:08
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An interesting thing about Tenko: In the Japanese version, she doesn't actually call people "degenerate males". She calls them "danshi", which is just the normal Japanese word for "boy" or "young man". Except the text box reveals something; instead of being spelled 男子 ("man" + "child"), in her narration it's always 男死 ("man" + "death"), pronounced the same. So to a listener, she just sounds weirdly aggressive and the joke is purely in the subtitling, which I find pretty funny. Anyway, Tenko is a good character, I don't mind her at all. Kokichi is the one that grinds my gears the most because it should've been obvious after about ten minutes that little poo poo was going to be nothing but trouble and yet no one said a word to the effect of "hey let's lock this kid up in his quarters so he doesn't pull a Nagito on us". That being said, that thing in chapter 3 involving him is one of the funniest scenes in Danganronpa history so... Hyper Crab Tank fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Oct 2, 2017 |
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Oct 2, 2017 06:24
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Seems like Tenko and Gonta got hit the worst in the transition between Japanese and English speech mannerisms. Still love both of them though. There'll always be characters or events like that in these sorta games.
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Oct 2, 2017 06:41
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:An interesting thing about Tenko: In the Japanese version, she doesn't actually call people "degenerate males". She calls them "danshi", which is just the normal Japanese word for "boy" or "young man". Except the text box reveals something; instead of being spelled 男子 ("man" + "child"), in her narration it's always 男死 ("man" + "death"), pronounced the same. So to a listener, she just sounds weirdly aggressive and the joke is purely in the subtitling, which I find pretty funny. It's a kanji joke, but the rest of the characters do seem to magically know exactly what she's saying. Kaede questions the meaning of the word she uses in their very first conversation. It's a joke Kodaka seems to like - there were similar ones with Ibuki in SDR2. Edit: now that I think about it, there's even another joke just like this in the V3 prologue: Monotaro's text box uses the word kanji for a complicated word and Monophanie corrects him. orenronen fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Oct 2, 2017 |
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Oct 2, 2017 07:26
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resurgam40 posted:Just finished it myself, and... yeah, I have to agree! (Though I always hated Monokuma, the little bastard...) You have an Umineko avatar and you're not pissed that chapter 1 hosed with Knox's Decalogue? Shameful. Just finished the game tonight. Did not like.
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Oct 2, 2017 08:31
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Just finished DR v3. Well now. Spoilers for the entire thing below. Sorry for length. So I guess the mastermind was hiding in plain sight all along.  Really glad I went into this one completely spoiler-free. I'm quite partial to meta and 4th-wall breaking stuff in fiction to begin with, but I especially appreciate when they fully commit to it and go balls out, like they did here. The imagery of Ultimate Hope Robot yanked around on chains like a puppet with audience screaming HOPE! HOPE! DESPAIR! in the background was something else. Both hilarious and weirdly disturbing. Last chapter was full of little touches I loved, and I had a smile throughout when I realised where it was going. V3=53 reveal was great, and so were all the logos of 'previous' entries in the franchise. I'd pause the trial at times just to read the scrolling audience comments. It was also satisfying to ignore Monokuma's attempts to get you to play at the end and just let the time run out on all the mini-games (voting included) instead. The fake memories reveal didn't bother me at all, as I wasn't sure about the whole meteorites plot to begin with - how many apocalyptic events can one generation have? I was satisfied with the 'fictional Danganronpa universe'/reality show reveal. It made all the little things throughout that didn't feel right fall into place. I thought the whole game was a bit more melodramatic and in-your-face with its character arcs ('We believe in you, Shuichi! Only you can save us! Find the truth!') as well as backstories ('Orphan forced to be an assassin', maid running countries, serial killer anthropologist) than previous ones, but all of that makes sense if in-universe it was all a script for a long-running series regurgitating old hits. The 'ultimate' talents of the bunch being pretty much placebo at best explains a lot as well, what with the 'Ultimate Survivor' getting killed first and 'Ultimate Detective' completely botching a case. (Apparently Rantaro's non-survivor talent was 'Ultimate Adventurer' as per his school mode free time events). If anything, Tsumigi probably came the closest to having an actual Ultimate-level talent out of everyone. Kaede and Rantaro definitely drew the short straw in the game, but it kinda felt smartest and most proactive characters had to die in the first two chapters (Kirumi and Ryoma included) for the rest of the game to go the way it did, as I can't see any of that bunch spending so much time being led around by Kokichi. Speaking of, Kokichi and Miu were often straddling the line between obnoxious and hilarious, but they worked overall. Though parts of Chapter 4-5 were a bit of a dip for me, as it felt like everyone got a bit dumbed down all of a sudden due to how long the looping world discussion lasted and how often Kokichi was two steps ahead of everyone else. Really liked that all characters felt involved it what's going on though, with everyone having something to do. If not for the last chapter, I'd have said the only useless character was Tsumigi, but, well. All in all, protagonist-wise I would've still preferred Kaede - she had more of a personality than Naegi and Shuichi combined (I'd put Hajime slightly ahead of those two) - but at the end it was almost redeemed by Shuichi turning out to be the shittiest ultimate detective and realising that the only way to win is to not play. It was also pretty clever how they worked the game mechanics into the overall theme as well - this was the first game where you could lie during trials, and Shuichi's position at the end reflected that, rejecting his chase for truth. So yeah, good conclusion to the series, and tbh I'd be perfectly happy if they didn't make another Danganronpa ever again. Good to know they're taking a break at least. Fiction can't change the world LOL
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Oct 2, 2017 09:17
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Krinkle posted:You have an Umineko avatar and you're not pissed that chapter 1 hosed with Knox's Decalogue? Shameful. 
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Oct 2, 2017 09:47
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Has anyone been trying to lie outside the obvious 'you need to lie here to progress' prompts? Apparently there's a musical cue (the trial music has the extra vocal track from the first two games, the one that goes 'clock, clock'). I'm thinking of going back and finding as many as I can - would anyone be interested in reading about it? Also, any tips for levelling up? Besides running around in a circle, that is. Also-also, something cute I noticed - the digging casino game's music sounded familiar, so I went and checked--it's the retro-game melody from Chiaki's execution.
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Oct 2, 2017 13:03
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The "back routes" are pretty damned fun to find. I totally lied in the second case to advance an argument and it made me feel pretty smart. (Trial 2 spoilers)Apparently you can agree with Himiko about the trick being magic and just skip that part of the argument, or something?? I wish I had tried. I'm enjoying agreeing with Miu's bizarre comments and getting reactions.
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Oct 2, 2017 13:24
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Internet Kraken posted:She keeps insulting perfect gentleman Gonta and it makes me mad. That's fair, Gonta is extremely good Sea Sponge Run posted:Being a gay woman myself she's my favorite I didn't strictly want to admit that might be why I like her a lot, but yeah that probably plays into it
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Oct 2, 2017 14:13
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Krinkle posted:You have an Umineko avatar and you're not pissed that chapter 1 hosed with Knox's Decalogue? Shameful. Hey, I more see that particular thing as a tool, rather than an unbreakable law- it's all in how you use it or don't, and since it was never invoked by this story, I don't see why it has to be followed in these instances. (Besides, there's what Irony Be My Shield said, too )Anyway, chapter 2 finished last night. I wonder if Komaeda is a fan of mythology, as the execution hearkens to as fairly famous Buddhist story about a killer trying to escape hell on a spider's thread... which of course is represented on Kirumi's dress as a spiders web. The artist is nothing if not stylish... So two characters I thought were going to bite it bit it... which is nice, considering last chapter, two characters I thought were going to stick around- well, didn't. Ryoma, while likable in a gloomy, terse sort of way, just has too outlandish/cartoony a design to make iot all the way- this series is not kind to the really weird-looking characters (Genocider Jack notwithstanding, as she hides her tongue when inert), and Kirumi... just seemed too blank-slate to not be hiding something big and too good and useful to the group at large- "maid" is one of those catch-all, vague terms that hide a variety of talents, and she was apparently so good at them the Prime Minister asked her to run the country during a crisis, apparently... yeah, she had to go. (I don't really know whether to kick or kiss these translators for the Trump joke, though... Eh, this is a silly series, I'll allow it). I wonder what this says about the timeframe, though... is this taking place before or during the Calamity, or after? The whole "Ultimate Hunt" thing makes me think it's afterward, because it was made clear in previous works that it was the devotion to creating Ultimates that eventually created the Calamity... more info to follow, I guess. You didn't ask, but this is the current Deadpool I've got going: Going to die: Angie: is going to go somehow before the end, I'm certain, and from her increasingly disconcerting manner (the way she just turned on Himiko during the first stage of the trial was just,  ), I could see it as either victim or killer- the latter if Atua tells her to, and the former if somebody gets sick of her proselytizing.Kiibo: Probably going to live. I feel comfortable saying that; he strikes that good balance of being quirky but not so outlandish and also reasonably competent... and he also has a lot of room to grow as a character. I don't think we're going to get Rentaro'd twice. Miu: Hrm... this is difficult. I think she might die... but that may be just some wishful thinking on my part, as she is just SO filthy and in your face about it all the time and it's already tiresome... but her talent is useful (and Komaeda... does seem to like his dirty girls, doesn't her?), so she might make it. And if she does, I hope she calms down. Maki: A much better fit for the survival mode, and her chances shot up after we know what her talent really is now. Having her be a murderer is too obvious and she's obviously too capable to be a plausible victim... beside, after this trial, she seems to have the whole "badass learning to care" character spot, another thing Komaeda is fond of. Gonta: Oh god.  Much as I want him to make it through, I don't think our perfect gentleman will. For one thing, he's way too nice and gullible to not have bad things happen to him, and for two... his death is too good for milking the all important DESPAIR from the audience (mostly me). Komaeda's not gonna let that one slip by, so please let it happen as quickly and gently as possible  Korekiyo: Oh, he dead. Dead as a doornail, and almost certainly as a murderer; you don't make somebody that creepy and then not follow up on it. Tsumugi & Himiko: Probably goners, as neither of them are quite as quirky or well personalized to particularly stand out Tenko: a much more preferable version of the mold Miu fits, so I hope she makes it over crazy inventor; she tends to dial her "hating men" thing in times of crisis or pain, and... well, taking Himiko away would provide opportunity for growth. Kaito : Oh boy... another one up in the air. While I'd like to believe our most excellent bro will make it through... he's too helpful for me to trust that he'll stick around. Not like- Kokichi: who is a venomous little turd, but I'm almost certain he'll make it to the very end, because for all his whimsy, he seems way too intelligent to do anything that might get him killed, and is having too much fun just loving around with people. He's gonna stay  For all the gore that's happened so far, nothing's hit me quite as hard as Ryoma's motive video. You can take or leave your elaborate, jokey traps- it's things like that video that make Monokuma a true monster.
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Oct 2, 2017 15:26
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Tenko is definitely the best character. I enjoyed this one just as much as the first two, though I'm almost regretting marathoning my way through it now since these games scratch an itch that nothing else really does.
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Oct 2, 2017 15:56
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I've done two trials now and both times the results screen seems to have them marked as being completed in Normal difficulty when I've double checked at the start that I have Mania selected for both options. Is this a bug or an I missing something? Playing the Vita version.
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Oct 2, 2017 18:26
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Sakurazuka posted:I've done two trials now and both times the results screen seems to have them marked as being completed in Normal difficulty when I've double checked at the start that I have Mania selected for both options. Is this a bug or an I missing something? Playing the Vita version. it's a bug. It happens on the PS4 version too. When I finished trial 1 on normal it said it was Mean and then switching to mean it now says normal.
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Oct 2, 2017 20:01
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Just finished the game. What the hell?
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Oct 2, 2017 20:35
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Yeah it owns
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Oct 2, 2017 20:39
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Despite my feelings on V3's ending, Shuichi declaring "I am sick of Danganronpa" and then proceeding to ignore every minigame in a row is really loving funny
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Oct 2, 2017 20:55
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Ending spoilers: I wonder how many people who started playing this game but not played 1 and 2 will feel when they reach chapter 5 and then with the final trial and will be all confused Like this game was advertised as a new beginning so I guess some people will play it as their first DR game and just picturing that is so funny
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Oct 2, 2017 21:27
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So I've finished V3. Ending spoilers: I'm going to have to marinate to see whether I like the whole "everything is fiction" thing or not. It makes a lot of the weird twists make more sense, like Maki changing from the Ultimate Childcare lady to the Ultimate Assassin (she's one of my favorite characters), and the "end of the world" scenarios not really making any sense together. I usually find that this plot is a crutch for lazy writing, but I think it's more that the writers are loving sick of Danganronpa and this was probably the best way to write it. The final trial was the loving best whether it was good writing or not. It also really bothers me that chapter 5 has only four of five fragments needed. Side note: is it just me, or is V3 genuinely the funniest entry? I thought that there were a lot more funny scenarios, and that generally they were spot on. Especially that thing before the trial in chapter 3 which has been mentioned 900 times already. My roommate hasn't finished V3 and every time I look at her screen she starts screaming for me to shut up because spoilers regardless of how far she has gotten. I'm tempted just to spoil the end just so she can not believe me, and then watch as she slowly realized that I wasn't loving joking. Instead I told her not to be a dick about her video games. She literally said, "If you spoil this game for me THERE WILL BE REAL LIFE CONSEQUENCES," so I won't feel bad if someone spoils her, but it's nice to know that I'm living with a complete psycho.
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Oct 2, 2017 21:30
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Maybe you just shouldn't spoil the game for her? Sounds like you're being the dick here
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Oct 2, 2017 21:33
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mateo360 posted:it's a bug. It happens on the PS4 version too. When I finished trial 1 on normal it said it was Mean and then switching to mean it now says normal. Ugh that sucks, thanks. Hopefully it doesn't effect anything important.
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Oct 2, 2017 21:56
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Is that only in the Results display or does it mean Normal is harder than Mean?
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Oct 2, 2017 22:01
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Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:Maybe you just shouldn't spoil the game for her? Sounds like you're being the dick here I'm not going to do anything, really. All I have to do is walk in the door and see she's playing it and she starts screaming about spoilers for no reason.
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Oct 2, 2017 22:03
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I'm pretty sure it's just a display bug. the levels should stil b the same since I have a 1.3x when doing mean and it was still less when I did chapter 1 on normal
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Oct 2, 2017 22:39
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There are a lot of typos and errors in the text so I'm not surprised
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Oct 2, 2017 22:43
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Chapter 3 Trial Man I liked Korekiyo because despite looking like a total creep he actually came off as one of the smarter and more sensible characters in the series. SO MUCH FOR THAT
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Oct 3, 2017 02:14
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Gonta Free time spoiler: I just had to set my controller down and laugh for a solid minute because when Gonta was listing of things he was listing about what he thinks a gentleman is, he mentioned solving mysteries with young sidekick and finding a stone mask. I can;t believe they snuck in a Professor Layton joke.
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fyi for those who finished the game and might have missed it somehow, there's an epilogue scene after the credits that changes the tone of the ending quite a bit.
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