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Riatsala posted:I want to do an informal poll! The Japanese audience is objectively wrong about Kaito, so what does SA think? Rank all 16 students from V3, and I'll keep track on a spreadsheet. Given the twists and turns inherent to any DR game I'd prefer opinions from people who have finished Chapter 6, but I'm not gate keep it. You might be the only person I've seen to rate Angie that high. Personal list: Kaito - The bro. Best implementation of the trope in the series so far. Ryoma - the surprising breakout star. Would have been pretty interesting how he'd go if he survived further. Kaede - Taken away too soon. Hard not to hear Persona 5's Ann though. Keebo - Has a bit of irrevelancy issues, but a sweetheart. Kirumi - Again, taken away too soon. Great voice acting when you consider this is the same person that did Saionji last game. Maki - Good enough interactions with Kaito and Shuichi to carry her. Kokichi - Gets docked for chapter 4, but amazing VAing buoys him. Shuichi - Inoffensive, but nothing standout. Tenko - Take away the 'degenerate male' part and she's kinda Asahina 2.0. Gonta - I usually like the big dudes, but this iteration didn't do much for me, somehow. Miu - Oddly charming, but just overshadowed by everyone above. Trivia: she's the only character other than Ryoma who is never on your side during a Scrum. Angie - Great VAing if nothing else. Himiko - Eh she's alright. Korekiyo - Creepy to the end, but a decent trial. Rantaro - I almost forgot he existed. Tsumugi - Can you not.
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Internet Kraken posted:I mean the game doesn't stop sexualizing every other female character so its not really that much better anyways. This series could do without that but Yeah. It's not a completely valid reason when miu is in the game. Both her remarks and everyones remarks about her took me seriously out of the game, because I couldn't think of it as "oh this is how these characters are " but instead kept thinking "some grown rear end men are talking this way about teenage girls". I can take some fan-service (otherwise why even play 90% of stuff from japan), I can even take some heavy stuff when presented as a bad, disgusting thing. But idk this was so overt and constant that it seriously ruined a lot of DR3 for me.
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Trying to praise or criticise the characters in this game is very weird because every single thing is coloured by the closing revelations. So in the end all of these ridiculous characterisations and backstories turn out to actually be totally good and consistent so the typical "who the gently caress talks/acts like this" objections that usually crop up for anime writing don't really apply. Except, they kinda sorta do, really, because it's sure grating for the entire first 95% of the game, and honestly a lot of it still grates in retrospect even if it is part of the whole point of the thing that everyone is a anime-writer-written bit character. it's maaaaaagiiiiiiiiiic
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Fedule posted:Trying to praise or criticise the characters in this game is very weird because every single thing is coloured by the closing revelations. So in the end all of these ridiculous characterisations and backstories turn out to actually be totally good and consistent so the typical "who the gently caress talks/acts like this" objections that usually crop up for anime writing don't really apply. Except, they kinda sorta do, really, because it's sure grating for the entire first 95% of the game, and honestly a lot of it still grates in retrospect even if it is part of the whole point of the thing that everyone is a anime-writer-written bit character. it's maaaaaagiiiiiiiiiic Yeah, some of it can be seen as smart in retrospect but I'm usually in the camp of your second point here. If someones really annoying or not working as a character or (and this is what I was really bothered it) overtly exploitive and sexist; any revelation at the end won't change the entire ride you had to get there. I mean all fiction is, well, fiction. We all know they aren't real, so we're never really examining how they are as people, but how they were written. Personally I didn't mind the ending and didn't mind most revelations. Some of them were pretty cool. But I felt that the fan-service, exploitive representation of some of the female cast was so bad that it took me way out of it. Them not being real will never be the point because I never thought "gosh miu you're being disgusting " but always "the writers are being p disgusting".
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Fedule posted:Trying to praise or criticise the characters in this game is very weird because every single thing is coloured by the closing revelations. So in the end all of these ridiculous characterisations and backstories turn out to actually be totally good and consistent so the typical "who the gently caress talks/acts like this" objections that usually crop up for anime writing don't really apply. Except, they kinda sorta do, really, because it's sure grating for the entire first 95% of the game, and honestly a lot of it still grates in retrospect even if it is part of the whole point of the thing that everyone is a anime-writer-written bit character. it's maaaaaagiiiiiiiiiic Oh, I agree, however, I think you have to decide for yourself exactly how meaningful these story twists are. I personally just disregard the back half of chapter 6 because I think it's wholly irrelevant to my understanding of characters for whom I have no context outside of the killing game. I take their personalities and stories at face value because, as you point out, that first 95% of the game is, well, 95% of the game, and hand waving it at the end doesn't really, truly change who they are to me. I think these revelations undermine any sort of debate that's to be had between serious fans, but they don't undermine a subjective public opinion poll, wherein something as asinine as "best waifu~~" is a valid metric as far as I'm concerned.
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I think the writing works pretty well for the revelation. Most of the characters have some big, in your face quirk that they won't shut up about but have some depth and growth going on underneath that. Judging from the prologue I think that the brainwashing doesn't actually affect your core personality that much.
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Riatsala posted:I want to do an informal poll! Miu - I have a soft spot for aggressively foul-mouthed girls, and she has unexpected depth to her. Kaito - Spacebro, you held the team together as long as you could. Kaede - She never got a lot of time to shine, but for the short time she was with us I liked how she was written. Tenko - I like her attitude, even as a degenerate male. For some reason, her constant slurs end up feeling endearing rather than annoying. And she had a few interesting character traits. Angie - She's axe crazy and her cult is creepy... which is exactly why she makes for an interesting character for me. Shuichi - He starts out pretty lame, but he grew on me overall. Gonta - Bug Tarzan, you were too pure and innocent for this world. Tsumugi - She did almost nothing for most of the game, but her Danganronpa Simultaneous Harmonic 20-way Cosplay Cube was amazing. Himiko - Has good interactions with other characters and gets hilarious when she starts imitating Miu. Maki - Eh, she's okay, I guess. I don't feel like she does a lot, but her interactions with Kaito and Shuichi help make her somewhat interesting. Ryoma - I didn't really feel like I cared much about him. He ends up doing relatively little, so it's hard for me to care much. Keebo - Decidedly meh. Does a lot of stuff at the end but it ends up feeling pretty artificial. Kirumi - Boring. Korekiyo - He's just kind of weirdly creepy and his characterization comes out of left field. Too obvious a killer, too poorly explained motive. Kokichi - I hate the little turd and I hate how all of the others characters ignore his obviously dangerous hijinks until it's too late and he gets people killed. His character is just annoying and makes no sense. Rantaro - Near zero characterization is a great way to make me not care about a character.
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Riatsala posted:Speaking of Miu, I was hoping that at some point in the game you'd get into a rebuttal showdown, only for her to suddenly back down after the very first cut. Oh well. Yeah sure why not, though at least the top spot will probably be obvious.  Major Spoilers will be in here so be aware.Korekiyo: There's this weird charm to his creepy personality and he is genuinely one of the smarter characters and really helpful throughout trials. The twist made him even more interesting to me plus the seance was just a super cool atmospheric moment. Miu: A barrel of laughs every time she's around. Plus her tendency to become a doormat when pressured is oddly endearing. If you spend some time with her she's also actually pretty altruistic in her own weird way. Gonta: A precious bara cinnamon roll. Kokichi: He's fun to hate. Plus there's a ton of hidden depth to him when you start digging around an analyzing scenes. Props to his Nagito Tier bullshit gambit too. Keebo: Consistently a charming and funny guy plus he's always incredibly helpful to everyone. Bonus points for his amazing shrug + eyeroll pose. Shuichi: He's probably the best take on protagonist to me, since he has some depth to him and he grows and he's far less one-note than Super Hope Makoto or Super Cynic Hinata. Himiko: She's pretty cute and fun most of the time but I think she's a little one-note. Definitely not the best girl status a lot of people equate her as. Still I like her just fine. Kaede: I think she either would've been really interesting to see more of or potentially would've just ended up grating. That said, she's by far the most effective and proactive pseudo-protagonist we've seen and she gets props for that. Tenko: Her male hating gets played up a bit too much sometimes but she's a genuinely super caring person and her less silly scenes are quite endearing. Maki: While I do appreciate badass ladies I think she kinda fell flat most of the time. Kirumi: She needed more time to shine I feel but she was a real good Team Mom. It helps that she went out like a total badass. Kaito: He's probably the best of The Bro Archetype we've had in the series and he's hard not to love... but beyond that I don't feel like there's much super compelling to him. Tsumugi: Mostly just kind of there but her space case tendencies and nerd references were fun. Ryoma: Once again, I think he needed more time to shine, but he had an interesting dynamic going and I genuinely felt horrible for the dude. Rantaro: Hard to say since he's barely there at all. He's got a nice voice and seems potentially interesting in the bonus modes at least. Angie: No redeeming qualities. She was sorta amusing at first but the Atua schtick got grating real fast and she just became an insufferable jerkass.
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Fedule posted:Trying to praise or criticise the characters in this game is very weird because every single thing is coloured by the closing revelations. So in the end all of these ridiculous characterisations and backstories turn out to actually be totally good and consistent so the typical "who the gently caress talks/acts like this" objections that usually crop up for anime writing don't really apply. Except, they kinda sorta do, really, because it's sure grating for the entire first 95% of the game, and honestly a lot of it still grates in retrospect even if it is part of the whole point of the thing that everyone is a anime-writer-written bit character. it's maaaaaagiiiiiiiiiic (Ending) I don't think that's any sort of excuse at all. The characters as written are in the game because the real actual writers put them there for our enjoyment, not because the fake in-universe writers did. Now I happen to have very little problems with the cast so this isn't an issue for me but I don't think "the characters are bad *intentionally*" is ever a valid reading at all here.
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Is there a trick to talent development mode? I never got any gold from encounters and basically every fight but the cat-slime ones just one shot my party so I have no idea how to actually improve or get better characters.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Is there a trick to talent development mode? I never got any gold from encounters and basically every fight but the cat-slime ones just one shot my party so I have no idea how to actually improve or get better characters. If you're talking solely about the board game, you don't get gold from the exam battles there. You only get gold from battles in the RPG mode itself, Monokuma's Test (which is unlocked after you've played Talent Development at least once). I made a big giant effort post about this whole thing right here
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YoshiOfYellow posted:If you're talking solely about the board game, you don't get gold from the exam battles there. You only get gold from battles in the RPG mode itself, Monokuma's Test (which is unlocked after you've played Talent Development at least once). Oh alright that makes sense, I'll give your big post a read. Thanks.
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character poll stuff Kaede -- we were robbed of her way too soon and it very nearly soured me on the game as a whole. still not over it. Himiko -- pretty boring at first but her arc REALLY redeemed her by the end, and I love her tiny lazy self to bits now. Miu -- love foulmouthed girls, love girls whom proud of their tits, really came together to make me like her a lot Tenko -- as a fellow man-hating lesbian i really connected with her. feel really bad about the way she went out. Kokichi -- fascinating how they made a characters whose main traits were 'liar' and 'antagonist' endearing and interesting. Angie -- everything about her is loving adorable. Gonta -- gonta ... idiot. lovable idiot. Maki -- extremely solid sidekick character and even though she lasted the whole game i never felt like she got QUITE enough characterization. Kirumi -- went out way too early. big maid fan here, wish we got to see more of her. Shuichi -- the absolute definition of a middle of the road character. god i wish they swapped kaede and shuichi. Kaito -- as far as bro characters go I guess he's all right but it's not an archetype I ever really enjoy. Ryoma -- again, criminally low characterization, but I guess I liked what I saw. Tsumugi -- only redeemed at the very very end, but that doesn't make up for being boring the majority of the game. Keebo -- hard to be more bland than a DR protagonist but somehow he manages it. Rantaro -- see Keebo. he could have been cool if he didn't die in the first two minutes, but even then 'guy who lived before' isn't much of a character trait. Korekiyo -- buddy, you gross.
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Riatsala posted:Speaking of Miu, I was hoping that at some point in the game you'd get into a rebuttal showdown, only for her to suddenly back down after the very first cut. Oh well. Okay then, my ranking: 1. Miu - Started off finding her obnoxious, but really entertaining dialogue combined with her really being a decent person at heart won me over. 2. Gonta - Best boy. Nuff said. 3. Kaito - a total bro. I really liked his training scenes with the other characters. Scenes of the characters gradually bonding were sorely missing from the last 2 games. 4. Kaede - interesting design with an upbeat personality. Neat free time events. Could have done without the fanservice but not a dealbreaker. 5. Kiibo - mostly for his scenes showing off his "features". Him pulling a Raiden in Ch. 6 helped, too. 6. Maki - a cliched personality, but a neat backstory. 7. Kokichi - his voice threw me off for being the same as Kuzuryu's. His actions in Ch 5 were awesome. And him actually being a clown helped him too. 8. Ryoma - a cool dude, but his angsting (though justified) kinda grated on me. 9. Himiko - I liked her character arc. Some of her scenes were funny, too. 10. Rantaro - Mostly for my theory he was actually the SHSL Beautician. Adventurer's kinda a step down. 11. Shuuichi - I don't mind he replaced Kaede. But I do mind the fact that he's really bland. 12. Tsumugi - would have actually placed higher if not for Ch. 6. I liked her passion for making costumes and her references, but that last chapter killed a lot of that goodwill. 13. Korekiyo - for his interesting free time events. Otherwise he'd be much lower. 14. Tenko - I've heard she was less hostile in the original language, or at least less insulting to people that have helped save her life. 15. Kirumi - I don't really dislike her, but she really doesn't have anything going for her. And her constant need to be useful started to wear thin. 16. Angie - The only redeeming thing about her was her jacket and even that wasn't that good.
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Actually now that I think on it, there's a bit of neat foreshadowing to the endgame with Kiyo's freetime events. (Major End Game Spoilers) Kiyo talks about how his uniform was made by his sister while she was bedridden and that's why he wears it so much despite it being such a pain in the rear end to put on. But at the very beginning we see Kiyo in a completely plain school uniform just like everyone else and only got his crazy outfit right before they got the memory of their ultimate talents back (or as we learn later, when they have that plus their memories and characterization implanted into them). It's really subtle and I never picked up on it, but it's a neat little clue when you go back and realize "hey wait a minute how was this a memento when you were given these clothes at the start of the killing game".
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I mean (endgame spoilers) I think a lot of people guessed that their memories were faked, but so much poo poo happened between that scene and the moment it's revealed that it just slips their mind. At least that was how it was for me.
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(endgame) My inital theory was that their ultimates were all mixed up along with their memories due to that scene and the other inconsistencies. Rather than them being faked outright
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when did you guys start realizing their memories were fake? I think probably one of the reasons why the plot twist fell so badly for a lot of people is that they weren't expecting this; and personally I only really did think they were fake after it was p obvious (finding the flashback light creator)
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(V3 ending spoilers) I remember being 100% sure from the start that Kokichi was definitely not actually a Remnant of Despair, so it must've been at that point at the latest. I was definitely hella suspicious of their memories before finding the flashback light creator, but I didn't expect that much to be fake.
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All of which is reminding me; have there been any good/entertaining/good-and-entertaining stream-LPs of this yet? Bonus points for if they manage to get angry at... things... and remain entertaining. I'd normally ask this kind of thing in the LP recommendation thread but I'd have to explain in detail what I want and blanket tag the whole post, while I'm pretty sure anyone here knows exactly what I'm looking for.
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Fedule posted:All of which is reminding me; have there been any good/entertaining/good-and-entertaining stream-LPs of this yet? Bonus points for if they manage to get angry at... things... and remain entertaining. I'd normally ask this kind of thing in the LP recommendation thread but I'd have to explain in detail what I want and blanket tag the whole post, while I'm pretty sure anyone here knows exactly what I'm looking for. I enjoy watching Trump's Hearthstone videos, and he's played DR1 and 2 on his main youtube channel, and he's uploading DR3 on this channel. He never gets angry, but he's entertaining in this cocksure way regarding the mysteries, despite often being really wrong in silly ways (he picked every single other character except the killer in DR2 Case 3). Rummage through his Twitch videos if you want chat reactions. You can see his reaction to V3's first chapter twist here.
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I'm not sure how to feel about the ending at all. I can't settle on love or hate. What's the general consensus among people who have completed it or know the ending?
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man nurse posted:I'm not sure how to feel about the ending at all. I can't settle on love or hate. What's the general consensus among people who have completed it or know the ending? From what I've seen the split is right down the middle. People either love it or hate it with very little middle ground.
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Internet Kraken posted:From what I've seen the split is right down the middle. People either love it or hate it with very little middle ground. I'm doing my best to disregard it entirely. I've taken the stance that nothing outside of the academy actually matters in my understanding or enjoyment of the story or its characters.
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Spoiler filled ranking: Kokichi - Probably the best VA work of the human cast, which is important. I loved his lying piece of poo poo rear end, but felt that his arc was pretty much finished by the time he was offed (and was cool with it), but then was mad that he was offed after we learned everything we did afterward and wanted more. Only thing I would have changed personality wise is how overboard horrendous some of his comments to Miu are, because christ. Kaede - Strong willed, considerate, selfless. Essential in giving us one of the more interesting cases and really feeling it. Hers was certainly a more interesting point of view to experience than Shuichi, but whatever, he's cool too. Miu- Her sprites were great, she was cool, her inventions were cool, why wasn't that drone used more. Why weren't a lot of things used more. Questions without a question mark. Shuichi - His strongest moments are in Chapters 1 and 6 (which are also my favorite chapters period), otherwise a fairly bland protagonist, which isn't unexpected. Still, those moments are very strong. Kaito - Loved him at first but the perfect bro thing started to wear on me after a while (also I was suspicious of him the whole time and didn't take the bro thing at face value). He was great in chapter 5 and of course had a nice death. Ryoma- One of the more complete characters, despite having a lot less screen time than others. You feel for the fella. Keebo - I enjoyed the robophobia schtick, and I'd assume a lot of your enjoyment of him pre-6 is dependent on that since otherwise he's Just Pleasant. And then he becomes megaman and that owns. Himiko -I feel like I like her less than I should, probably because most of her development happens in trials (not that that's uncommon)? Idk. It's maaaagic got a few laughs from me and I still enjoyed her. Nyeh. Kirumi - One note until she wasn't, but that determination was sick as hell. Run, Kirumi, run. Maki- I'm torn, in that once she gets some development I thought she was an okay character, but also I think she's an idiot once we get to Chapter 5. Pretty good VA at least! Everyone Else Angie -Well, kind of yes and kind of no. I thought she was annoying as hell but the plotline she was central to in Chapter 3 was great and the murders absolutely did not connect to it in the way I was hoping. So, uh, rip, you died in a very uninteresting way.
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man nurse posted:I'm not sure how to feel about the ending at all. I can't settle on love or hate. What's the general consensus among people who have completed it or know the ending? I am actually someone who is in the middle of the scale between love and hate, it will really depend at how attached someone is to the characters and the overall despair plot of the series. I really was always more of a fan of the battle royale trial gameplay + character interactions; and the ending would never really take that away from me. Some of this game made me burn out on the series so I guess that's why I didn't particularly care. That said, IT WAS ALL A LIE plots are really hard to make and I don't think it was particularly well implemented here. Mostly because I feel that for these kind of plots to work they have to integrate all of the story and gameplay, and can't just be a twist at the end. Games like undertale or metal gear solid 2 have done it way better, I think. Danganronpa has always been pretty meta, it has always danced on playing with tropes, but more on the line of subverting narrative tropes, not so much on the nature of a videogame. I think that's why it doesn't work. Throwing a "it's all a dream/a lie/scripted" at the end of a series is p pointless if you haven't been nurturing that plot actively throughout a series, or else it just feels pointless, because you as a player or reader knew of course it was all a lie to begin with, it's a work of fiction.
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Grouchio posted:ending spoilers Having been spoiled on the end reveal at least once, do the surviving three characters still have their talents after Danganronpa ends? The way you phrased that suggests you know some bits, but not others. So you're not actually there yet yourself, but iirc you were still playing the game right? Can't you just see for yourself?
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Fedule posted:All of which is reminding me; have there been any good/entertaining/good-and-entertaining stream-LPs of this yet? Bonus points for if they manage to get angry at... things... and remain entertaining. I'd normally ask this kind of thing in the LP recommendation thread but I'd have to explain in detail what I want and blanket tag the whole post, while I'm pretty sure anyone here knows exactly what I'm looking for. I like usedpizza's streams. He has a laid-back attitude about it, doesn't read dialogue out loud (I know some people like that but I don't think you would), and is just bad enough at figuring out the mysteries that it's entertaining but not excruciating. Also his viewerbase is small enough to not be terrible. Streams here and uploads his stuff on youtube here with a delay. He's beginning chapter 3 next. He also has the entire rest of the series (including Ultra Despair Girls, brave soul) up if you're interested.
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Mindblast posted:The way you phrased that suggests you know some bits, but not others. So you're not actually there yet yourself, but iirc you were still playing the game right? Can't you just see for yourself?
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I'm seeing a lot of people mention voice acting in their ranking. Are you guys playing with English or Japanese voices? I use Japanese voices because I've got a strong idea of how Monokuma should sound, and it's not like demented Mickey Mouse, but I'm starting to wonder if I'm missing out on some great voices, or if certain voices were more annoying to me because of the Japanese actor. Miu in particular had an extremely grating laugh in Japanese.
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Oct 11, 2017 21:34
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Even if you don't have expectations, the Mickey Mouse performance just feels off compared to the previous English ones. Miu's laugh is pretty similar but drops the Ks in English and might be a bit higher pitched. I knew it was gonna be a really repeated soundbite but it never bothered me. I wish the game had one of those menus that lets you toggle language for each individual character, if only because Monokuma is the only one I'd change to Japanese and he's so central to the game. Honestly I kinda wonder what he'd sound like if he was voiced by a woman in English as well? HGH fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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I used English and didn't really find a good reason to switch to Japanese. The student cast isn't all great and Monokuma is divisive (I get the reasoning for doing Mickey Mouse voice and only found a few lines to be particularly grating), but there are enough strong points among them, and the Monokubs are all fantastic.
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Oct 11, 2017 22:08
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Shuichi's Japanese voice is just a flat-out worse voice for the character.
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Oct 11, 2017 22:10
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Cheap Diner Coffee posted:I used English and didn't really find a good reason to switch to Japanese. The student cast isn't all great and Monokuma is divisive (I get the reasoning for doing Mickey Mouse voice and only found a few lines to be particularly grating), but there are enough strong points among them, and the Monokubs are all fantastic. The Monokubs are actually among the bottom of my own list of English voices. Koichi Yamadera's performance is really terrific, and they took it and replaced it with 5 separate actors, none of which is particularly good (Monokid's the best, and he's basically doing an impression of the Japanese voice). The Monokids' entire schtick is that they're a constant Manzai act, and the English line readings are just so overly deliberate for the material. I naturally prefer the Japanese cast, but that's because I can understand them, and a lot of lines were written specifically with those actors in mind. If you don't actually understand Japanese, the English cast (with a few exceptions) surprised me with how decent it is this time (I've only watched in English to the ending on chapter 1, though).
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Oh right, rankings. Uhhh man I really like the cast of this game so it was easier for me to go in ascending order 16. Angie - Ultra creepazoid. Effective villain, but man she is fuckin creepy and I fear for Shuichi's life if she is in love with him. Also, she thinks manga are for children, hates the police, and finds human trafficking fascinating. Go home, Angie. 15. Tenko - Kinda fun sometimes, but please stop hurting Shuichi. I don't want that. 14. Tsumugi - Is extremely dull in the actual plot until Chapter 6, but is amusingly frightening in optional events, especially once you know she's the mastermind. "drat normies. Go backflip onto a landmine and explode" is a fantastic line. 13. Korekiyo - The insanely spooky boy. Probably the game's weakest culprit character, all told, but he's still pretty fun and amusingly frightening past the point of absurdity. Where did the cookie go. 12. Kirumi - Chapter 2 rules and is a super-cool case, plus she goes out like a total badass. Other than that she kind of, eh, exists. 11. Rantaro - look yall i know he doesnt get much screentime in the main mode but rantaro is the gay best friend i wish i had, dude has style and goes on world-spanning adventures and has twelve sisters and is an expert nail artist. rantarowns but he dies really early 10. Ryoma - It's tough for me to decide between Rantaro and Ryoma, but Ryoma's cool enough that I give him the point. Plus his voice rules. Also I actually IRL shouted "OH MY GOD" when he died instead of Kaito because. You know. Anyway, cool dude and was my Falcon Kick MVP for Despair Dungeon. 9. Keebo - Gets a bit one-note, especially around Kokichi, but is a really fun and good boy who really comes into his own in the last chapter. Also his Love Hotel scene is pure and good. Also robots are rad. 8. Kaede - Chapter 1 rules, and she was a pretty fun fake-out protagonist. I like Shuichi better, but one thing I really appreciate about Kaede is that even though she dies early, the story never really forgets about her the same way it does other early deaths- V3 averts First Killer Syndrome extremely well. Also, even if the love story was kind of hokey, I thought it was adorable and the first thing I did postgame was get all her Free Times so that she and Shuichi could have a good time together. I am a sap. 7. Himiko - As a die-hard Umineko fan I can't dislike such a powerful witch. The surprise factor of her surviving and having an arc and all was pretty solid. Is a sconch annoying in Chapters 1 and 3, but is a fun and enjoyable character in the rest of the game. I like this small girl. 6. Gonta - How can such a beautiful being possibly exist. Gonta is Pure. 5. Maki - I cannot stress how much I appreciated having an "assistant" character who was super no-nonsense and also wasn't a rebound love interest. She's a bit cliche, sure, but Maki remains thoroughly Good the entire game. 4. Shuichi - It's probably a side-effect of V3 just having way better mystery writing than the last two games, but Shuichi feels really smart and competent compared to Hajime or especially Makoto. He's definitely the dorky straight man, sure, but I like the dorky straight man. I used two Free Times in Chapter 1 on him my first playthrough even. Because I like him. Yeah that's right, I like straight man boy detectives. Fred is my favorite Scooby-Doo character. You wanna fight about it, punk? 3. Kokichi - After Byakuya's being an utter tool and Nagito's hyper-competent passive-aggressive derision, I wasn't sure where they'd go with a rival character, but Kokichi is the consistently funniest character in the entire game. This goofball motherfucker never failed to make me smile and go "you little poo poo!" He totally fooled me with the fake body discovery thing, and he wrote Kaito an entire script to pretend to be him at the trial, are you fuckin kidding me, this guy owns! Long live the Ultimate Supreme Leader. Also boy he is really gay! 2. Kaito - I was surprised how endearing the bro character became this time around but Kaito rules. Sure, Dangan Ronpa is all about hope and the power of friendship, but having this goofball astronaut motherfucker with his Tezuka hair shouting friendship speeches and somehow managing to avoid obviously narratively-foreshadowed death in two different chapters is so blunt it became really charming. Also, Chapter 5 ruled. Also, Shuichi saying his catchphrase to cheer up Maki near the end of the last trial is incredibly sweet and is proof that friendship is real. 1. Miu - I just want someone to give Miu a hug. Is that so wrong? This poor child, she is in pain. I hope that she and Shuichi have a nice date after Love Across The Universe. And perhaps more. Because Miu really deserves someone to tell her that things are going to be okay and that she's okay. Also "I FUCKIN RULE" is the best voice clip. i talked more than i expected
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Guess if we're doing character ratings: Kokichi Ryoma Miu Kaede Gonta (my boy) Keebo and then the rest are just all equally uninteresting, but not as uninteresting as Tsumugi Shuichi Ending stuff: Tsumugi at least could make herself look like better characters, but Shuichi was doomed to being the whiny emo twig boy until like right before the end of the game. gently caress Shuichi, doom him to an eternity with Kiyo in the love hotel.
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maybe don't wish rape on people just a thought
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Sea Sponge Run posted:maybe don't wish rape on people just a thought he aint real, just like his lust for kiyo's sweet, sweet can
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Ending: Angie was the only character (other than probably Kokichi) who realized that the flashback lights were bad news. Everyone should have listened to Angie.
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