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Tired Moritz posted:literally no tutorial for it. well, it was amazingly useless in dr1. Well, yes, but I'm pretty sure it was necessary to do at some points to advance the game even if it didn't add much. I literally have never found a use for DRV3's Reaction Voice other than it exists and I can make the protag shout voice lines that do not do anything?
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:Well, yes, but I'm pretty sure it was necessary to do at some points to advance the game even if it didn't add much. I literally have never found a use for DRV3's Reaction Voice other than it exists and I can make the protag shout voice lines that do not do anything? according to the intneret "It's a kind of joke on the fact that, in previous games, each character just passively sits by, listens, and waits until the other person is done speaking to get their word in. In Japan, just sitting quietly as a person tells a story or something is weird and even rude because it suggests you aren't listening. When a Japanese person speaks at length to another Japanese person, the listener will deliver a pretty constant stream of "aizuchi", interjections meant to show that they're paying attention. And that's pretty much what Kaede is doing when you use the reaction voice mechanic, showing that she's listening and paying attention!"
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Oct 14, 2017 20:59
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wow, I must be playing this game as a rude piece of poo poo then.
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Oct 14, 2017 21:01
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so no change from the real you, then
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Oct 14, 2017 21:32
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The proper way to consume media is to use dubs from your native language for animated shows/games and subtitles for live action stuff.
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Oct 14, 2017 22:00
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i prefer the english dubs of things because of gems like Gundham Tanaka or Kokichi's voices.
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Good Opinions posted:The proper way to consume media is to use dubs from your native language for animated shows/games and subtitles for live action stuff. 
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:Well, yes, but I'm pretty sure it was necessary to do at some points to advance the game even if it didn't add much. I literally have never found a use for DRV3's Reaction Voice other than it exists and I can make the protag shout voice lines that do not do anything?
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Terrible Opinions posted:The proper way to consume media is to use dubs from your native language for animated shows/games and subtitles for live action stuff. Username/post combo
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My favorite thing about the ending of this game is the laughably pathetic mental image of a 50 to 60 year old woman dressing up like an anime teenager and actually hanging out with a bunch of teenagers she kidnapped, spouting nerd references to poo poo that was cool when she was young because she has no idea what the kids find hip. The more I think about it the more I like Tsumugi because she's the perfect mix of legit frightening and absolutely pathetic.
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Terper posted:And no, Persona has always had the characters refer to each other by first name in English too. Persona 3-5 actually keeps the exact way the characters refer to each other from the Japanese - it's just that we're dealing with friends in these games and they quickly drift toward using their first names (usually with a -chan or a -kun), so that ends up what you mostly hear. There is still a fair bit of Takamaki-san and such. The biggest problem with DR's handling of the issue is that many of DR's names aren't actually names you'd find in the real world, and to my ears they sound like they're written so the part mostly used in the game is the one that flows and sounds better. There's a reason most of the girls' names are, for the most part, more normal-sounding that the boys - you tend to hear both their first and last names quite a bit even in Japanese. That's also why Shuichi Saihara's name is as normal as it is - Kaito quickly goes to first-name basis with him so you hear both parts a lot. On the other hand, we hardly ever hear the mouthfuls that are Korekiyo or Kokichi after they first introduces themselves in Japanese.
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spit on my clit posted:i prefer the english dubs of things because of gems like Gundham Tanaka or Kokichi's voices. Gundham Tanaka is just amazing in every voiced scene. I imagine the VA had a loving blast. Similarly, Kokichi's VA sounds like he's having so much fun being a trashy troll child.
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YoshiOfYellow posted:Gundham Tanaka is just amazing in every voiced scene. I imagine the VA had a loving blast. Similarly, Kokichi's VA sounds like he's having so much fun being a trashy troll child. He also had a blast voicing Ryoma
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Just finished V3. That was an amazing ending. If V3 really is the last danganronpa game, then that was such a great way to end the series.
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I finally finished the main story, so here are my thoughts: I loved it. It felt like a natural conclusion to what had been building up starting from DR2. In that game, the characters reject both hope and despair to just focus on the future. Sure, DR3 ignored that and decided that the entire point of the game was that hope was more unpredictable than despair, but I never liked that idea. It also means that they can stop making Danganronpa games, since there really isn't anyway to go from here. I'm a bit sad that the series is potentially over, but I'm happy with the conclusion they reached. Also, why did Tsumugi call her cosplay of Junko the 53rd? The only Junko in DR3 was still the first, so she could be the 52nd Junko. Although, from the wording, it sounds like in their world, the Danganronpa games and anime continued past DR3, and the real world killing games started sometime later, so it could be that this is the 53rd season of the real world show. Okay, time to compare my guesses to what actually happened: BlazeEmblem posted:Well, since the DR3 Future anime seemed to follow the pattern set up by the first two main games, with the third murder being a double murder, and one less survivor than the previous entry, here are my thoughts (spoilered for who shows up in the demo): Kokichi did help, in a Nagito sort of way, so I got one right. BlazeEmblem posted:Survivors: Kaede, Gonta, and the magician Himiko survived! And of course both of my other guesses were executed as murderers, even if Kaede was framed. I guess I was sort of right about three survivors: Keebo's body might still function, but almost all of his personality was gone. I didn't really want to be right on that guess. BlazeEmblem posted:Killers: Detective, Anthropologist, Maid, Cosplayer, Artist 3/5, not bad. I do have to laugh about me thinking that Shuichi would kill, since it was stated that there were several Ultimate detectives, yet none of them ever killed in any of the 53 games.
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BlazeEmblem posted:I finally finished the main story, so here are my thoughts:
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Oct 15, 2017 01:44
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Who could forget the fake Junko twist in Danganronpa 5?
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And since all Junko cast of DR43 was retconned into only having one, true Junko, I think the math checks out.
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Oct 15, 2017 02:14
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I guess it depends if you count Another Episode.
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Oct 15, 2017 02:20
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The anniversary 50 season was special: every character thought they were Junko at some point due to fake memories but in the end it was a tiny Junko hiding inside Monokuma.
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Things got a bit crazy with all the JUNKOS but it all worked out.
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Amppelix posted:Do you understand japanese? If not, how did you even go through the nonstop debates? The text is so animated that half the time I would have no idea what it's trying to say before it's already gone if I didn't have voice acting. I use my eyes. Hope this helps.
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Ending spoilers: I was kinda bummed about the ending, especially the whole DR1, 2, and 3 never happened thing, until someone pointed out that it's not really a condemnation of the audience as much as it is playing into the whole "Lies can effect the truth", or in other words "Fiction can effect reality" theme. It certainly helped once I read that it wasn't supposed to seem as "gently caress y'all series is over, peace out" as it ended up. I'm warming up to it slowly but surely. Also I still feel vindicated in considering immediately lifting up Kokichi and breaking his spine over my knee like Jason Voorhees the second Monokuma announced the first blood perk way back in chapter one. Later dorks I did you guys a favour.
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Honestly I don't think the ending should be seen as a condemnation of the fans, I don't think Kodaka feels that way tbh. And I mean those kind of anvil drops are just eye rollingly stupid, so I dont think he was trying to drop any morals there. If it came out looking that way tho, that would be a possible example of bad writting. Obviously there were parallels but morally speaking, the players as audience and the games audience are miles away from each other.
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Been replaying with a friend, and (whole game spoilers) After the opening scene he immediately predicted that the memories were implants. And he's gone on to other theories here or there but he keeps going back to that one as of chapter 3 and it's really hard to keep quiet. He even said that he thinks the resurrection ceremony might just be planting memories of that person into a new player. gently caress. Was it this obvious for anyone else? I hope he is satisfied by the ending validating what he realized 5 minutes in
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That was the impression I got from the prologue too. The way the Monokubs talked just made it clear to me that they wanted to craft new, more unusual characters for the contestants. I wavered on that theory at some points but the false narrative in the flashback lights never really explains the prologue or Rantaro's video.
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Now that I've beaten the game, I wanted to try the extra modes. I think there was a big post about the Talent Development stuff, would anyone have a link to it?
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One week out from beating the game...I'm starting to feel its absence. Are there any other games like this? I've only played the first case in Phoenix Wright, but you're a lawyer in that game and not a detective. The guilty party was immediately obvious and your goal was to exonerate the very-obvious patsy. Does that change?
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Nah the guilty party is usually always pretty obvious though they don't always tell you straight out. You gotta treat it like Columbo where it's about seeing the villain get their comeuppance rather than whodunnit. You could try the Zero Escape games too, 999/Virtues Last Reward/Zero Time Dilema though there's no trial aspect to those just the death game side.
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Ace Attorney: Investigations has a bit more detectivework and the culprit isn't always obvious, but it's certainly not Danganronpa.
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Yeah the Ace Attorney format is more about fighting against the rigged system and providing the culprit did it than identifying them.
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I frequently lament the slowly emerging fact that Danganronpa is pretty much the last bastion of the golden-age style closed-circle murder mystery. Phoenix Wright comes close and laudably has maintained a strict focus on the one-contradiction-at-a-time unraveling of ridiculous plans, but the suspect pool is just too small and the villains too telegraphed for it to really nail the whodunnit side.
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I'm gonna write a bunch of words about the ending now because i really liked it  So I disagree with the notion that the ending doesn't condemn any of the fans. I don't think its saying anything negative about the audience for these games in general or trying to make you feel like a monster for playing them. However, I do think it targets two particular types of people and criticizes them pretty heavily. The first would be people that base their entire identity around media they produce and consume. This is basically Tsumugi's entire character. A lot of people think she is really boring, and I honestly think she was intentionally written this way. Tsumugi is an extremely shallow person that revels in fiction and has built up an entire persona around it. She doesn't have any apparent value outside of her position as the writer of Danganronpa. She constantly references it and other works of fiction because that's all she thinks about. She's supposed to be the worst of both fans and content producers. Despite being such a rabid fan of media, she doesn't examine it on any meaningful level. She just mindlessly consumes and produces it for the most basic form of enjoyment. That's why she strongly insists that fiction can't affect reality despite adoring it so much. She doesn't attempt to derive any sort of meaning out of it. Its all created purely for her own pleasure an that of others. The second would be people that aren't open to the media they consume going in directions they aren't comfortable with. Keebo is literally an audience surrogate that is constantly being polled to manipulate the show in ways they desire. Keebo is the desire for this series to maintain the status quo. I feel like the audience comments during the fight with Keebo are too specific to not be targeted at these kinds of people. They really sound like the kind of stuff you hear from people whenever a story goes in the direction they don't want. And the resolution of the story isn't necessarily you convincing all these people to change their views, but rather them abandoning the show because it no longer pleases them.
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HellCopter posted:One week out from beating the game...I'm starting to feel its absence. There are definitely a few cases in the series where (unless you're smarter than me) you go into it having no idea or the wrong idea of the culprit. You basically pull double duty as a detective/attorney in all the Ace Attorney games because the system is rigged against you and the police are working specifically for the prosecutors and not the truth. They're 100% worth playing and (I say this as a Danganronpa fan) I like them a hell of a lot more than Danganronpa. edit: I just realised you said literally only the first case of the first game, which I don't think actually even has an investigation phase, just a courtroom phase. The other ones have investigation phases BTW
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I think there's a game just like Danganronpa (read: ripoff) for the Vita, but I don't believe it's out in English or anything
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BRB reassembling SHSL Translation Team to make a patch for Exile Election
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Fedule posted:BRB reassembling SHSL Translation Team to make a patch for Exile Election Looking this up now-- That's...a little too blatant. Final endgame spoilers That last Argument Armament against Keebo was amazing. The crowd shouting things like "This isn't my Danganronpa!" or "Kaede should've lived instead" was a trip. For those who used Japanese audio, could you read even a word of that while playing? HellCopter fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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Endorph posted:the proper way to consume media is however you enjoy it Wrong. Meallan posted:About Kokichi I see some people here talking about how he was good all along and I'm wondering if that's a common sentiment? I didn't get that at all from him. (Mostly I thought he wanted to win it, no matter what, and correctly concluded that the only way to win is to mess with monokuma.) IIRC, someone on 4chan made a fake plot summary pretty quickly after the game came out. A combination of that, personal opinions of people who had actually played the game, and the telephone effect made people think that it was an actual canon thing. BioEnchanted posted:I think the most interesting character in the franchise (to me) is actually Mukuro Ikusaba. On a tangential note, the thing that really keeps me from being able to decide if I like DRv3 or not is that while the setting and characters aren't bad in and of themselves, the fact it's all faked kills any interest I have in interpreting the characters motivations and the like. That more than anything is also why my reaction the the possibility of another game in the v3 canon was a groan. Maybe it was all a really clever play by Kodaka and the writing team, because they've seen anything past the games manages to at best reach the quality of bad fanfic. Also about Mukuro, DR3 kinda killed any of that interpretation. It depicts her as being pretty much okay with doing what Junko wants, and possibly a little too into Junko's abuse. ...Man, I really hate DR3. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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