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Ledgy
Aug 1, 2013

Up against the wall

Intoluene posted:

V3 Ch1 spoilers. The promotional video is simultaneously one of the creepiest and hilarious things this series has done.

I wanted to elaborate on this, do you figure that's one of the videos Mitarai made ? 'Cause it's definitely at least a callback. Maybe if nobody planned a murder, someone would've been forced to.

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Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!

wocobob posted:

Quick question: I just finished DR3 (the anime), and I'm wondering--does V3 feel as unnecessary as the anime? It kinda felt like they were running out of concrete places to take the plot of the series. Not looking for spoilers, just curious whether it's worth the $60.

V3 is a wild ride and the highs more than make up for any lows in my opinion.

Ever Disappointing
May 4, 2004

wocobob posted:

Quick question: I just finished DR3 (the anime), and I'm wondering--does V3 feel as unnecessary as the anime? It kinda felt like they were running out of concrete places to take the plot of the series. Not looking for spoilers, just curious whether it's worth the $60.

None of the main games feel unnecessary the same way Ultra Despair Girls and the anime feel. You should play it.

Stroth
Mar 31, 2007

All Problems Solved

wocobob posted:

Quick question: I just finished DR3 (the anime), and I'm wondering--does V3 feel as unnecessary as the anime? It kinda felt like they were running out of concrete places to take the plot of the series. Not looking for spoilers, just curious whether it's worth the $60.

V3 is the start of a new story arc.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

wocobob posted:

Quick question: I just finished DR3 (the anime), and I'm wondering--does V3 feel as unnecessary as the anime? It kinda felt like they were running out of concrete places to take the plot of the series. Not looking for spoilers, just curious whether it's worth the $60.

It's a million times better than the crappy anime

Haifisch
Nov 12, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

wocobob posted:

Quick question: I just finished DR3 (the anime), and I'm wondering--does V3 feel as unnecessary as the anime? It kinda felt like they were running out of concrete places to take the plot of the series. Not looking for spoilers, just curious whether it's worth the $60.
It definitely is.

It also has enough postgame mode to be a game's worth of playtime by itself.

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

Finally got around to finishing the last bit of V3 and holy crap do I like V3 a lot.

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011
i'm glad that history is vindicating V3's ending

orenronen
Nov 7, 2008

The way it went in Japan was, people who's obsessed with DR enough to finish V3 the week after release: "The ending ruins the game". Everyone else, a month later: "This is pretty good!".

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

V3 Ch 2 Spoilers: I can confirm that the ending to this trial was hosed, that this trial in itself was so much godamn fun, and that Kokichi is the best.

So It Goes
Feb 18, 2011
Finished the game last night.

Chalk me up as someone who really liked the ending twists and this was probably my favorite dangan ronpa game overall. I liked how it didn’t actually go the meta route of the characters realize they are fictional being controlled by a player but it’s really more accurate to say they signed up to do hardcore role playing but they were still “real” people who had just been mind wiped into different personalities.

I’ve greatly enjoyed all 3 dangan ronpa games but I feel satisfied with the series being over, which it should be given that ending. I feel like they’ve mined all they could from the premise of the main line games and I think the spinoff games and anime were bad so I certainly don’t need any more of that stuff either. That said I would still play a dangan ronpa 4 but they should wait like a decade before going that route if they do it at all. I don’t think they could ever top kokichi as a character.

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!

Fun Shoe

wocobob posted:

Quick question: I just finished DR3 (the anime), and I'm wondering--does V3 feel as unnecessary as the anime? It kinda felt like they were running out of concrete places to take the plot of the series. Not looking for spoilers, just curious whether it's worth the $60.

The anime was dogshit but I wouldn’t exactly call it unnecessary. It basically wraps up every loose end in the franchise (badly).

V3 is totally worth the money though.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
One question I have about the anime is why are people so down on Junko in it? I thought she was rib-crushingly hilarious, especially "Get over it slut, we're dead!" and yelling "YASS QUEEN!" when meeting Kamakura

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011
junko and mukuro had great scenes in the anime but that really just underscores that it should have been a slice of life comedy instead of having the absolute nuclear waste pile of a plot it had

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!

Fun Shoe

Danaru posted:

One question I have about the anime is why are people so down on Junko in it? I thought she was rib-crushingly hilarious, especially "Get over it slut, we're dead!" and yelling "YASS QUEEN!" when meeting Kamakura

She had a few great moments (the car ride scene for example) but overall they made her far too goofy and non threatening for a person capable of genocide. Though IMO that pales in comparison to the explanation for how the main cast went all evil and crazy. What should have been an interesting character study in how ones preexisting character flaws can ultimately destroy you was instead turned onto “gently caress we’re out of episodes! OK, um... it was mind control.” Which is literally the worst way to explain that since it robs everyone of any agency or culpability for their subsequent actions.

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

orenronen posted:

The way it went in Japan was, people who's obsessed with DR enough to finish V3 the week after release: "The ending ruins the game". Everyone else, a month later: "This is pretty good!".

When I finished the game I found some of those negative reactions to the ending, which made me enjoy the ending more somehow???

End game spoilers: There were a not-small number of people who were very upset the characters in V3 were "fictional" and the whole space/meteor/virus story "wasn't real". It blew my mind people could somehow miss the point so much.

I think I still liked 2 more overall just because I liked that cast a little more, but I really adored V3.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
I get the complaint about the meteor and virus thing not being real, mainly because it set it up so much only to turn to the whole mind control fake memory thing, which... honestly isn't as interesting as what the whole Gofer project plotline was promising. Also I'm sorta disappointed that there wasn't a huge swelling Hope moment like in 1 and 2. I get that that's the point, but I'm such a sucker for it. Hajime going Super Saiyan Hope had me hootin' and hollerin'

HellCopter
Feb 9, 2012
College Slice
I’m actually really happy that the end-of-the-world plot amounted to nothing. When you kill off the entire planet there’s really nowhere to go from there? And the successes/failures of the cast would be truly meaningles.

FPzero
Oct 20, 2008

Game Over
Return of Mido

readingatwork posted:

She had a few great moments (the car ride scene for example) but overall they made her far too goofy and non threatening for a person capable of genocide. Though IMO that pales in comparison to the explanation for how the main cast went all evil and crazy. What should have been an interesting character study in how ones preexisting character flaws can ultimately destroy you was instead turned onto “gently caress we’re out of episodes! OK, um... it was mind control.” Which is literally the worst way to explain that since it robs everyone of any agency or culpability for their subsequent actions.

DR3 anime spoilers (don't know if it really needs to be spoiled at this point but oh well)
I completely agree with you. All we knew going in was that at some point Junko entered into everyone's lives and essentially corrupted them to her way of thinking. She's shown to be relatively charismatic during the series (Ultra Despair Girls talks about this since she didn't brainwash the kids and she just talked them into it with Monaca also being nuts) so I just assumed that she somehow wormed her way into everyone's brain that way and turned them using their own insecurities (kind of like she did to Mikan, who I don't think actually got brainwashed? It's been a while so I can't remember.) But then nope, despair anime mind control is the answer to how history's greatest villain in-universe got herself an army of followers. Not through being good at being a leader, but because she brainwashed them to be her followers. Too bad.

tweet my meat
Oct 2, 2013

yospos
Oh yeah, why did (V3 general spoilers) the Monokubs keep getting killed off? I feel like I glossed over some payoff to that whole plot thread.

BlazeEmblem
Jun 8, 2013

Uh oh. Do I use Ariadne thread or Goho-M?

tweet my meat posted:

Oh yeah, why did (V3 general spoilers) the Monokubs keep getting killed off? I feel like I glossed over some payoff to that whole plot thread.

I assume it was because whoever wrote their characters in-universe didn't want to have to make them in the first place, but somebody higher up said they had to be included. So the writer decided to have them Monodam kill them off so the writer wouldn't have to deal with them anymore.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 17, 2013



HellCopter posted:

I’m actually really happy that the end-of-the-world plot amounted to nothing. When you kill off the entire planet there’s really nowhere to go from there? And the successes/failures of the cast would be truly meaningles.
I mean that's ultimately the same problem as "it was all a dream" which we ended up with. In both cases you just need to be invested in the present survival of the characters rather than anything else.

Haifisch
Nov 12, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

BlazeEmblem posted:

I assume it was because whoever wrote their characters in-universe didn't want to have to make them in the first place, but somebody higher up said they had to be included. So the writer decided to have them Monodam kill them off so the writer wouldn't have to deal with them anymore.
That would also make sense with how I read them. They're part of a line of cutesy mascot characters taking over a franchise, being shoehorned in at every opportunity, and ultimately annoying the viewer. At least I figured that was the intent - I actually wound up liking the Monokubs more than Monobear by the end.

Kay Kessler
May 9, 2013

I do like how just as Kaito's about to die, Monokuma decides to rub salt in the wound by bringing the kubs back.

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011

tweet my meat posted:

Oh yeah, why did (V3 general spoilers) the Monokubs keep getting killed off? I feel like I glossed over some payoff to that whole plot thread.

the monokubs perform the shakespearean "play within a play" throughout the course of the game. they're not directly relevant to the plot but serve as a sort of meta-narrative. their revival for chapter six and near immediate second demise signifies the brief period during which you think you're in control of the situation, before tsumugi rips it away again

E: as an aside, my favorite gameplay moment in the game is the first non-stop debate of chapter six, with all five monokubs spewing nonsensical white noise over every statement in the segment

Venuz Patrol fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Nov 7, 2017

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
The begging for their lives at the end made me feel slightly sorry for them

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747
I felt bad for Monotaro and Monodam. the others can gently caress offff

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

Monosuke gets the best delivered line in the game with Ooooh poo poo, he's already got the detonator! and I like him basically based entirely on that. And Monodam is just charming.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
One.

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world


To be honest Monokid is the only one I really hate and thankfully they knew this and iced him immediately

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


Monotaro is the best because he's doing his Ryoji voice.

Persona 3 spoilers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WPEiOhlftA

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011
monotaro is the best for the one pose where he forlornly throws a shuriken at the ground, but i like the trill in monosuke's japanese voice acting

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Amusingly the only Free Time Events I completed were for the cosplayer.

Capfalcon
Apr 6, 2012

No Boots on the Ground,
Puny Mortals!

End game spoilers: In hindsight, I'm kind of sad that we didn't have characters from the other 50 games show up during the ultimate display of ultimate cosplaying.

Think it would have been great to just have a few "Wait who the hell was that?" moments.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

Capfalcon posted:

End game spoilers: In hindsight, I'm kind of sad that we didn't have characters from the other 50 games show up during the ultimate display of ultimate cosplaying.

Think it would have been great to just have a few "Wait who the hell was that?" moments.


This is one of the things that makes me think Tsumugi was lying about the first games being fake :tinfoil: It's not like the show itself had to be fake, most of the world is still filled with despair fanatics who'd watch it, and the intro only changes in the flashback at the end, brought to us by the flashback light.

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011

Capfalcon posted:

End game spoilers: In hindsight, I'm kind of sad that we didn't have characters from the other 50 games show up during the ultimate display of ultimate cosplaying.

Think it would have been great to just have a few "Wait who the hell was that?" moments.


it would be a lot of effort to come up with a new character concept and sprite for a single line of text, but you just know the fandom would go wild for it

FPzero
Oct 20, 2008

Game Over
Return of Mido

Danaru posted:

This is one of the things that makes me think Tsumugi was lying about the first games being fake :tinfoil: It's not like the show itself had to be fake, most of the world is still filled with despair fanatics who'd watch it, and the intro only changes in the flashback at the end, brought to us by the flashback light.

endgame While Tsumugi did mention that she was only cycling between the first two because that's what the "audience" (i.e. the player) knows, you can also read it as an extension of the fact she can't cosplay actual people. Which means that aside from DR3's killing game all the rest of the games did use real people. Therefore, she can't cosplay from those killing games because the people involved were not fictional.

Axle_Stukov
Feb 26, 2011

Stylin'
endgame But let's be real here. They were just lazy and didn't want to make new sprites for even the DR3 anime crew, I mean gently caress Mukuro is still just disguised as Junko even in the bonus modes.

FPzero
Oct 20, 2008

Game Over
Return of Mido

Axle_Stukov posted:

endgame But let's be real here. They were just lazy and didn't want to make new sprites for even the DR3 anime crew, I mean gently caress Mukuro is still just disguised as Junko even in the bonus modes.

Which is funny because they put Izuru in there and DID make him a couple new sprites. Seeing that, I was really hoping they'd make some Mukuro sprites but no. Poor Mukuro.

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Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011
Mukuro does get a soldier pixel sprite in dungeon mode, but only if you get her ultra-rare card. it's more of a consolation prize than anything, but as a mukuro fan frankly i'll take whatever i can get

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