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Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.



It's not harmful in that you don't get your eyeballs roasted by dangerous rays. Staring at something in the same narrow focal plane for hours a day isn't as good for still-growing eyes as going outside and playing with a ball or something that moves and must be tracked in 3D. Your mom tossing you in the yard to play was doing you a favor.

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Jezrael
May 1, 2005
the bagel is an adequate vessel of nutrition

Anecdotally, I do remember that when I switched from CRT to LCD there was a notable change in eye strain, but it may have indeed been due to adapting to viewing distances over time.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012






Slightly longer answer: as long as you don't spend all your time indoors.

Has to do with the frequencies you're exposed to, not what you're focusing on.

Fozaldo
Apr 18, 2004

Serenity Now. Serenity Now.


When electrons get stopped suddenly they lose that energy in photons of x-ray frequency, in other words your screen gives off x-rays. I've not heard of long exposure affecting anyone though.

Frankston
Jul 27, 2010




DicktheCat posted:

Is anything about the screens-ruining-your-eyes myth true? I've heard it all my life, and have never seen any actual scientific discussion of it. I've always assumed it was a new wives tale type thing.

From a personal viewpoint (heh) I think there's something to it. Out of all my siblings (four) and family (mother, father, uncles, aunties, cousins etc) I'm the only one who wears glasses. Guess who spent the most of their childhood playing videogames and computers.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~


College Slice

I'd be very surprised if it ended up being non-hereditary. Practically everyone on my mother's side of the family is nearsighted, and none of them really do anything directly in front of a TV or monitor for any amount of time. My sister and I are only a few years apart--I spent my childhood loving around in front of early-rear end CRTs and she didn't, but our eyes are equally bad.

Wow, doc, myopia and astigmatism? You shouldn't have!

mystes
May 31, 2006



Fozaldo posted:

When electrons get stopped suddenly they lose that energy in photons of x-ray frequency, in other words your screen gives off x-rays. I've not heard of long exposure affecting anyone though.
Isn't this why CRTs used leaded glass?

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

i'm nice


Soiled Meat

Fozaldo posted:

When electrons get stopped suddenly they lose that energy in photons of x-ray frequency, in other words your screen gives off x-rays. I've not heard of long exposure affecting anyone though.

mystes posted:

Isn't this why CRTs used leaded glass?

That's one reason. An interesting thing to note is for color* CRTs that there isn't much lead in the "panel glass" at the front of the display---that glass contains a few percent of lead oxide or barium oxide (and strontium oxide maybe?). The glass in the funnel and neck of the CRT, however, had up to 25% lead oxide, and all the parts were fused together with glass solder that has like 75% lead. I'm not sure why lower lead content glass was used in the front panel, to be honest. I do know that optical properties were a big factor--they needed a glass with a good index of refraction and dispersion that didn't discolor with age (due to electron bombardment). Lead and barium are still used for certain optical glasses. Also, cost and manufacturing concerns are probably another reason. Finally, the glass in the front panel is probably thicker.

*Monochrome CRTs were made from a single piece of glass, I believe

Sunshine89
Nov 22, 2009


This may be more marketing than technology, but I think it fits with the theme of the thread.

Ever heard of a car being referred to as a "chick car"? When you hear this, you probably think of a Volkswagen New Beetle, Fiat 500, minivan or station wagon with big wheels compact crossover CUV.

Back in the mid-1950s, Chrysler actually designed and built a car targeted specifically at women. It came with pink or light grey paint, tapestry-like upholstery, and a matching purse with coordinated hairbrush, wallet, change purse, cigarette case and lighter that sat in a special holder. The clasp was a large medallion that could have the owner's name engraved into it.

This is the Dodge La Femme.





It was just a Dodge Custom Royal Lancer with special trim, so it cost Chrysler Corporation little extra to make it. It was also sold as a "his-and-hers" type deal, where he would have a Custom Royal Lancer, and she could have a car that matched.

It turned out to be a total flop. It only lasted for the 1955 and 1956 model years, and less than 2500 were sold across both.

As it turned out, women who didn't care about cars wouldn't be lured by a pink one with a matching purse, and women that did care about cars weren't swayed by Dodge's marketing department. The typical women's car of that era was the station wagon, to haul around groceries and kids, especially in the rear-facing third row seat.

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GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005




Sunshine89 posted:

especially in the rear-facing third row seat.
The technical term for it is the "mooning seat."

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule







Sunshine89 posted:


This is the Dodge La Femme.





It was just a Dodge Custom Royal Lancer with special trim, so it cost Chrysler Corporation little extra to make it. It was also sold as a "his-and-hers" type deal, where he would have a Custom Royal Lancer, and she could have a car that matched.

I think this is amazing.

A while ago in the thread someone brought up those cheezy projection lenses that you build into a box over a TV.

I JUST found one I bought way back when I was a kid, still unused, so thought I would take some crummy photos of it for you all (click for huge):







Bacicot
Apr 3, 2004


Lipstick Apathy

Humphreys posted:

I think this is amazing.

A while ago in the thread someone brought up those cheezy projection lenses that you build into a box over a TV.

I JUST found one I bought way back when I was a kid, still unused, so thought I would take some crummy photos of it for you all (click for huge):









You can/should use that thing to start fires in direct sunlight.

You Are A Elf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!


Sunshine89 posted:

This is the Dodge La Femme.





Chrysler Corp also tried another gimmick originally geared toward women with their cars (specifically, Barracudas) in the late 60s by offering the Mod Top, a flowery pastel vinyl roof option that extended into the upholstery. It ultimately failed and was only available for two years, but I think the imagery fit more with the counterculture of the time (this was 1969, after all) more than with women and was bought by them. They're pretty rare today.





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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule







Bacicot posted:

You can/should use that thing to start fires in direct sunlight.

I will take you up on that offer/challenge tomorrow.

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

Someone call the Chancellery Guard. Commander Maxil's out of uniform. AGAIN.

Humphreys posted:

I will take you up on that offer/challenge tomorrow.

at hospital, lost ebyeal

WITCHCRAFT
Aug 28, 2007

Berries That Burn


You Are A Elf posted:

mod top cars

Oh man. I've always loved late 60s/early 70s designs on anything from cookware to fashion to interior decoration. Those cars are right up my alley. I can just imagine the kind of person who would buy and proudly own that car when it was new...

Johnny Aztec
Jan 29, 2005

Set Phasers to FUN!

p-hop posted:

Oh man. I've always loved late 60s/early 70s designs on anything from cookware to fashion to interior decoration. Those cars are right up my alley. I can just imagine the kind of person who would buy and proudly own that car when it was new...

They probably owned one of those one piece suits, and a watch that said " Time to gently caress"

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009



DoctorWhat posted:

at hospital, lost ebyeal
Thanks, I just had to tell the whole story to explain to my coworker why I burst out laughing.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!


Grimey Drawer


Now imagine if these were combined with the unholy 70s scourge of putting fake wood paneling on everything.

The 60's and 70's were pretty ugly decades in some respects, but always endearingly so somehow. Everything looked ugly but comfortable, I guess.

sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)


Monkey Fracas posted:

Everything looked ugly but comfortable, I guess.

This is a really good way of putting it.
I love the aesthetic but I have a weird propensity toward adoring ugly things vv This seems a good reason as any.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



Monkey Fracas posted:

Now imagine if these were combined with the unholy 70s scourge of putting fake wood paneling on everything.

The 60's and 70's were pretty ugly decades in some respects, but always endearingly so somehow. Everything looked ugly but comfortable, I guess.

So it would be a car that looks like my grandmother's kitchen

Phy
Jun 27, 2008





Fun Shoe

sweeperbravo posted:

This is a really good way of putting it.
I love the aesthetic but I have a weird propensity toward adoring ugly things vv This seems a good reason as any.

I think my fiancee has figured out that if we ever get a house with wood panelling in the basement she's going to have a fight on her hands to get me to get rid of it. We're already seeing places with deep pile carpet, wood panelling has to come back into fashion sometime.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"


Phy posted:

I think my fiancee has figured out that if we ever get a house with wood panelling in the basement she's going to have a fight on her hands to get me to get rid of it. We're already seeing places with deep pile carpet, wood panelling has to come back into fashion sometime.

I knew I couldn't be the only one with a love for wood paneling, it's very cozy. Add a comfy couch with some garish pattern, and I'm set.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~


College Slice

Humphreys posted:

I think this is amazing.

A while ago in the thread someone brought up those cheezy projection lenses that you build into a box over a TV.

You had to flip the TV over for these to work correctly, and it made the colors on all of my sets go all wacky. Also, the picture was mirrored horizontally, so subtitles were a "no."

Mentioned already is the (way cooler) eventual final fate of the device--burning poo poo. On a clear day, you could cut an empty pop can right in half. The death laser's intensity seemed to increase if you acted like a Bond villain.

"Catch the wave? No, Mister Coke. I expect you to diet."

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kmcormick9
Feb 2, 2004
Magenta Alert

When I was a kid I would sneak into the basement of our local arena where there was a sports bar.
In the bar they had a projection TV that appeared to be a regular crt facing a mirror reflecting the image up onto a projection screen. The whole unit was pretty compact with the TV directly under the screen and the mirror about a foot in front and it was all a single unit, not some Jerry rigged setup.
Does anyone else know what I'm talking about? This was late 80s-very early 90s

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

BENIS


kmcormick9 posted:

When I was a kid I would sneak into the basement of our local arena where there was a sports bar.
In the bar they had a projection TV that appeared to be a regular crt facing a mirror reflecting the image up onto a projection screen. The whole unit was pretty compact with the TV directly under the screen and the mirror about a foot in front and it was all a single unit, not some Jerry rigged setup.

Actually, I designed it.

rockinricky
Mar 27, 2003


kmcormick9 posted:

When I was a kid I would sneak into the basement of our local arena where there was a sports bar.
In the bar they had a projection TV that appeared to be a regular crt facing a mirror reflecting the image up onto a projection screen. The whole unit was pretty compact with the TV directly under the screen and the mirror about a foot in front and it was all a single unit, not some Jerry rigged setup.
Does anyone else know what I'm talking about? This was late 80s-very early 90s

Here's a little picture of one.

This one was made in 1982.

Only registered members can see post attachments!

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Their eyes locked and suddenly there was the sound of breaking glass.


rockinricky posted:

Here's a little picture of one.

This one was made in 1982.



Haha, holy crap, I remember those from the bars and bowling alleys of my 80s youth. The picture was so terrible. Just about every single one of them got their colors out of allignment so that everything had a rainbow around it and it looked like you were watching while tripping balls.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"

Grimey Drawer

stealie72 posted:

Haha, holy crap, I remember those from the bars and bowling alleys of my 80s youth. The picture was so terrible. Just about every single one of them got their colors out of allignment so that everything had a rainbow around it and it looked like you were watching while tripping balls.

A friend in college had one in his house. We would in fact trip balls and watch stuff on it. Pretty cool really.

SybilVimes
Oct 29, 2011



Ah, memories... my first viewing of Wrath of Khan was on one of those (well, a widescreen version) being fed from laserdisk, in 1986 while on holiday - so much technology decadence in one place.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓𒁉𒋫 𒆷𒁀𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 𒁮𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑




Phy posted:

I think my fiancee has figured out that if we ever get a house with wood panelling in the basement she's going to have a fight on her hands to get me to get rid of it. We're already seeing places with deep pile carpet, wood panelling has to come back into fashion sometime.

Yeah even brass bathroom and kitchen fixtures are coming back. If you watch HGTV/house hunters for long enough you see the styles rotating. I predict in about three years everyone will be going "ewwww granite countertops, that's a deal breaker."

My 1975 condo has stucco on the ceiling AND walls in the common areas and it's got asbestos in it so it ain't going anywhere. Can't wait til people stop the anti-popcorn ceiling propaganda.

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-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

Glub glub.
Glub glub.



stealie72 posted:

Haha, holy crap, I remember those from the bars and bowling alleys of my 80s youth. The picture was so terrible. Just about every single one of them got their colors out of allignment so that everything had a rainbow around it and it looked like you were watching while tripping balls.

Mr Gatti's pizza had these. They were behind a waist high wall/bar and they intrigued my child mind. I desired to dance and play before the colored bulbs. Perhaps they would even transport me into the realm of the Nicktoons.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber


Clapping Larry

stealie72 posted:

Haha, holy crap, I remember those from the bars and bowling alleys of my 80s youth. The picture was so terrible. Just about every single one of them got their colors out of allignment so that everything had a rainbow around it and it looked like you were watching while tripping balls.

They also were pretty dim.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule







GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

You had to flip the TV over for these to work correctly, and it made the colors on all of my sets go all wacky. Also, the picture was mirrored horizontally, so subtitles were a "no."

Mentioned already is the (way cooler) eventual final fate of the device--burning poo poo. On a clear day, you could cut an empty pop can right in half. The death laser's intensity seemed to increase if you acted like a Bond villain.

"Catch the wave? No, Mister Coke. I expect you to diet."

Well dammit, just as I was going up load a GIF of it burning grass (it works great!). I will reset and go for a can.

EDIT: Not bothering... Here is lovely attempt at filming it do grass:

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 02:48 on Apr 2, 2014

Fornax Disaster
Apr 11, 2005

If you need me I'll be in Holodeck Four.

You Are A Elf posted:

Chrysler Corp also tried another gimmick originally geared toward women with their cars (specifically, Barracudas) in the late 60s by offering the Mod Top, a flowery pastel vinyl roof option that extended into the upholstery. It ultimately failed and was only available for two years, but I think the imagery fit more with the counterculture of the time (this was 1969, after all) more than with women and was bought by them. They're pretty rare today.

Chrysler used to have a luxury brand called the Imperial which was marketed as a competitor to Cadillac and Lincoln. They were stately luxury cars of the sort that bankers and captains of industry would buy. In 1971 they briefly offered a burgundy vinyl top option with a subtle paisley pattern meant to imitate antique furniture. After some time exposed to the outdoors the burgundy vinyl would fade and the pattern would become very unsubtle, forcing Chrysler to replace them with plain tops for free. It has been speculated that Chrysler tried to use up unsold Mod Top material by redyeing it, but the stylist who worked on it has denied this.



http://www.imperialclub.com/YearByY...isley/index.htm

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

you can call
but I seldom answer after all






drat, the new Saints Row is lookin' good

HairyManling
Jul 20, 2011

No flipping.

Fun Shoe

Code Jockey posted:

drat, the new Saints Row is lookin' good

I thought the exact same thing when I saw this.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!

I'm trying to find evidence of this, and I can't, but I'm sure I tried it at least once.

I could have sworn in the late 90s Yahoo had some short-lived automated telephone e-mail checking thing that you were assigned a numeric ID code and a pass code and you could dial an 800 number and I think it would 'read' new e-mails to you over the phone or tell you if you had new emails waiting.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~


College Slice

Humphreys posted:

Well dammit, just as I was going up load a GIF of it burning grass (it works great!). I will reset and go for a can.

EDIT: Not bothering... Here is lovely attempt at filming it do grass:



Neato! I wish I still had my lens. I think it was still in the trunk of my "college car" when I finally sold it. poo poo, that car belongs in this thread--it was a 1989 Plymouth Acclaim.

(Nah, gently caress that noise, this ain't the PYF BALLER FUCKIN' RIDE thread. Look at this pimp-rear end sedan)


Not pictured: the Type R decal I put on the back glass

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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat



Grimey Drawer

JediTalentAgent posted:

I'm trying to find evidence of this, and I can't, but I'm sure I tried it at least once.

I could have sworn in the late 90s Yahoo had some short-lived automated telephone e-mail checking thing that you were assigned a numeric ID code and a pass code and you could dial an 800 number and I think it would 'read' new e-mails to you over the phone or tell you if you had new emails waiting.

I don't know about Yahoo, but in 1996 I would call my local newspaper's automated line and pay like 2 bucks to get the closing stock price on my options while I was trying to sell them. Which I then used to buy a computer so I could stop calling automated phone lines to get simple stuff like stock prices.

I found the computer in the newspaper classifieds though. Now that's a whole bucket of obsolete.

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