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Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

3.5 year old is good guy but has been waking up too early. Bedtime 7:30pm, actually falls asleep between 8:30 to 9pm, supposed to wake up between 6:30am to 7am and had been pretty consistent about that until a month ago, now wakes up sometimes at 5am crying for one of us. Can sometimes soothe him back to sleep but if it’s too close to his usual wake up time that’s not possible.

We got him a stay in bed clock, hoping he’ll figure out the red means stay in bed. Any other suggestions? He’s not sick, although wondering with sun coming up earlier if that might be a factor.

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lifg
Dec 4, 2000
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Muldoon

Scapegoat posted:

At this stage I'm pretty sure the draw of the zoo is riding the bus and getting a paddle pop after she eats her lunch (which is another battle).

For us it’s toys at the gift shop. Specifically cars or trucks. Last time we went to a zoo my son bought a snow leopard truck and that’s all he remembers now.

But when I try to lean into that, like an old car museum or a tank museum, suddenly they have no interest in vehicles. Just none.

Nybble
Jun 28, 2008

praise chuck, raise heck

Hyrax Attack! posted:

although wondering with sun coming up earlier if that might be a factor.

This was definitely a factor for us starting in April. 3.5yo would like to have the blinds partially open, but it meant the early morning sun on her window meant no sleep for us. Took about a week, but she settled with being okay with the Hatch light providing light at night versus the neighborhood lights. Blinds fully closed and sleeping until 8 am with a 5:45 sunset. Perfect.

in_cahoots
Sep 12, 2011

Hyrax Attack! posted:

3.5 year old is good guy but has been waking up too early. Bedtime 7:30pm, actually falls asleep between 8:30 to 9pm, supposed to wake up between 6:30am to 7am and had been pretty consistent about that until a month ago, now wakes up sometimes at 5am crying for one of us. Can sometimes soothe him back to sleep but if it’s too close to his usual wake up time that’s not possible.

We got him a stay in bed clock, hoping he’ll figure out the red means stay in bed. Any other suggestions? He’s not sick, although wondering with sun coming up earlier if that might be a factor.

Is he napping? My 3.5 year old will only sleep 9-10 hours on days when he naps.

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

STUPID LOUD AND AI PROUD
2.5 weeks is way too fast to go from first steps to walks across the house

Im not ready for him to be pushing stuff places and then climbing on it, my dude you couldn't even let go of the couch on 2 legs last month. How are you doing this poo poo already?!

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

The funniest thing about putting my daughter to bed is seeing her get wigglier and crazier and talking about more and more insane poo poo and then she just deactivates. Almost always after saying something about how she's never going to fall asleep, ever.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

Kids are LLMs that haven't had enough training

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Nybble posted:

This was definitely a factor for us starting in April. 3.5yo would like to have the blinds partially open, but it meant the early morning sun on her window meant no sleep for us. Took about a week, but she settled with being okay with the Hatch light providing light at night versus the neighborhood lights. Blinds fully closed and sleeping until 8 am with a 5:45 sunset. Perfect.

Thanks for info, I was able to adjust blinds to make his room darker in the morning and that seemed to help today. Hopefully that’s the fix.

in_cahoots posted:

Is he napping? My 3.5 year old will only sleep 9-10 hours on days when he naps.

Nah not regularly, sometimes when exhausted from big day at zoo or something like that but not everyday. He was complaining about being tired so I don’t think he wants to be waking up early.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010

I was asked to deep clean the car seats for the first time in a while.

Afterwards my wife found me laying on the couch, staring at the ceiling, and reciting Marlon Brando’s ending lines of Apocalypse Now.

Dazerbeams
Jul 8, 2009

Toddler refused to go to the playground today and ended up playing nicely by himself for a chunk of the afternoon. All I had to do was ask about getting ready to go and he’d run away to do his own thing.

remigious
May 13, 2009

Destruction comes inevitably :rip:

Hell Gem
It really burns my biscuit that for the second time my son did not get into free public preschool. There goes another $17k for another year of daycare. Absolutely ridiculous.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

remigious posted:

It really burns my biscuit that for the second time my son did not get into free public preschool. There goes another $17k for another year of daycare. Absolutely ridiculous.

Fuuuuuuuuuu


That really sucks. What's the process like that makes it dicey?

remigious
May 13, 2009

Destruction comes inevitably :rip:

Hell Gem

Count Roland posted:

Fuuuuuuuuuu


That really sucks. What's the process like that makes it dicey?

Priority for free preschool is given to families under a certain income level. Which I totally get, and it’s a good thing that there is help for people that need it, but this city has three separate programs to help lower income families afford preschool and there’s just nothing left for the middle class.
The silver lining is my son really likes his current preschool and we can spare him the hardship of switching schools until kindergarten.

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

Brawnfire posted:

The funniest thing about putting my daughter to bed is seeing her get wigglier and crazier and talking about more and more insane poo poo and then she just deactivates. Almost always after saying something about how she's never going to fall asleep, ever.

Yea my son is the same way. It’s adorable. He just rapid fire goes through every single word and phrase he knows while wiggling around and then mid-sentence just begins snoring.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

remigious posted:

Priority for free preschool is given to families under a certain income level. Which I totally get, and it’s a good thing that there is help for people that need it, but this city has three separate programs to help lower income families afford preschool and there’s just nothing left for the middle class.
The silver lining is my son really likes his current preschool and we can spare him the hardship of switching schools until kindergarten.

Unfortunately it's pretty common that there's help for the poor and very poor and then above some invisible line you get to provide the help in the form of taxes rather than receive it.

Which makes sense yes but maybe a sliding scale, where middle class people can get *some* help.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

remigious posted:

It really burns my biscuit that for the second time my son did not get into free public preschool. There goes another $17k for another year of daycare. Absolutely ridiculous.

My daughter has to wait an entire year to start kindergarten because she was born Sept 1, and not Aug 31.

remigious
May 13, 2009

Destruction comes inevitably :rip:

Hell Gem

Nocheez posted:

My daughter has to wait an entire year to start kindergarten because she was born Sept 1, and not Aug 31.

Oh man, that is rough!

Olanphonia
Jul 27, 2006

I'm open to suggestions~

Nocheez posted:

My daughter has to wait an entire year to start kindergarten because she was born Sept 1, and not Aug 31.

Same, but October 9 vs Sept 30 cutoff. I guess it'll be good in the long run but ughhhhh the cost

Good-Natured Filth
Jun 8, 2008

Do you think I've got the goods Bubblegum? Cuz I am INTO this stuff!

Some school districts will waive the birth date requirement if a child is definitely ready to enter school. For example, our school will let a kid enter Kindergarten early if you go through an evaluation to determine readiness (or if you've been part of their preschool program and their teacher recommends jumping to Kindergarten early instead of 2nd-year preschool). Definitely something to look into if you haven't.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

On the bright side kids who are older in their class tend to do better in school than kids who are younger

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/18/544483397/oldest-kids-in-class-do-better-even-through-college

ExcessBLarg!
Aug 31, 2001
Apparently our district cutoff is September 30, which is crazy to me as a kiddo could still be four for a month and a half of kindergarten at that point. That said, you can always repeat kindergarten, so, sure?

Our youngest has an early August birthday and we'll probably push for her to go "early" when the time comes. I suspect she'll be ready because all she wants to do is copy her older sibs and she's surprisingly good at it for her actual age.

On the flip side, I was 19 when I graduated high school and I, don't recommend that. My parents had me start kindergarten late for reasons they've never really been clear on even in recent discussions. I don't think they realized how old I was going to be 13 years later.

G-Spot Run
Jun 28, 2005
In some places you need a paediatric psychologist to say it would developmentally harm the child to "stay back".

I live in one of those states and I'm probably going to have to do it because he's 11 days past the cut off point. The year he just barely misses out on is also his big brother's final year at that school before moving up and I think it would help him to have his big bro around? I don't think I'm being entirely selfish ... But it would be nice to not have to divide myself in two for their "first days of X" and have one year where I can drop them off and pick them up at the same place.

King Hong Kong
Nov 6, 2009

For we'll fight with a vim
that is dead sure to win.

Olanphonia posted:

Same, but October 9 vs Sept 30 cutoff. I guess it'll be good in the long run but ughhhhh the cost

Both of our sons barely miss the cut-off. So many things that money could have gone to.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!
Not right now, but pushing them forward a grade can be real disruptive for their dating life. I remember when I was a sophomore in high school one of my lady friends was a freshman, and she'd actually skipped a year, so the sophomore 10th grader she was dating, while technically he was dating a 9th grader, age-wise (and maturity level) was an 8th grader.

Conversely, my dad got skipped ahead and he said it was real unfortunate that all his friends got DL and cars as sophomores, and all the social clout that came with that in boomer culture, especially taking girls to the drive in theater, whereas he had to wait until junior year to drive and do car stuff in high school.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010

Travel day to beach vacation. 2yo didn’t nap all day and is now doing laps in the pack n play. It’s 11pm.

meanolmrcloud
Apr 5, 2004

rock out with your stock out

I was 17 when I started college and what a mistake that was lol.

Our oldest is a dec.28 baby, and initially I wanted her to skip ahead like I did (I’m November) but she’s doing fine with her friends in preschool, even if she is a head taller than them.

We had babby #3 earlier today. She was full term, but had to do an emergency c section and it went from ‘baby is fine’ to 35 people in the room to ‘here’s your baby’ in like 15 minutes. Nerves are totally shot.

Scapegoat
Sep 18, 2004
Our first is a May birthday (cut off is middle of year) and I do worry about this. She's already tiny for her age and will be 11 months younger than the July kids. She seems quite clever for 3 but given her size and assuming she takes after mum or dad she's not getting any first ribbons on sports day.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004
Probation
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meanolmrcloud posted:

We had babby #3 earlier today.

Congratulations!

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004
Probation
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So about three months ago I got over excited and bought Bone: The Great Cow Race, sort of a classic indie comic graphic novel from the 90s

My 4.5yo isn't really following along and mostly wants to know the characters names, and has random questions about what they're wearing or whatever, but uh it's on her bookshelf and we get through ~1 chapter per week. I think it's rated for 9 and up and honestly it's a lot of dialogue and not much visually happens the first half is all set up I think I've just got a good kid who knows i enjoy reading that story

I picked up two Tintin books, those are rated 8 and up and have brighter colors and more recognizable action and probably better pacing for someone her age

Doll House Ghost
Jun 18, 2011



What I remember, Bone gets pretty dark if you continue the series. Really good though, but dialogue heavy and oppressive in mood.

Have you read any Asterix? There's a lot happening in them visually even if the dialogue goes over your head.

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?

Hadlock posted:

So about three months ago I got over excited and bought Bone: The Great Cow Race, sort of a classic indie comic graphic novel from the 90s

My 4.5yo isn't really following along and mostly wants to know the characters names, and has random questions about what they're wearing or whatever, but uh it's on her bookshelf and we get through ~1 chapter per week. I think it's rated for 9 and up and honestly it's a lot of dialogue and not much visually happens the first half is all set up I think I've just got a good kid who knows i enjoy reading that story

I picked up two Tintin books, those are rated 8 and up and have brighter colors and more recognizable action and probably better pacing for someone her age

Tintin has some uppers and some downers. I just read through most of the library with the six year old.

Avoid the first three like the plague. In fact, forget they exist.

She found Flight 714 to Sydney extremely boring, and it is indeed mostly dialogue. The Moon duology she liked despite the heavy exposition in part 1. Calculus throws a hilarious tantrum which we enjoyed though.

Highlights for a kid are The Crab With the Golden Claws, The Picaros, The Castafiore Emerald and the duology about Red Rackham’s treasure.

Hippie Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Jun 5, 2025

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

You know what's cool? When your kid tells you a fact that you just straight up did not know before. My child discovered something about the world I haven't, and they shared that with me. That's incredible.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

that's Doctor Brain to you
Owly was a great first graphic novel series for my daughter. One character only talks in pictures and the others talk in words, so it helps bridge that gap. And definitely low danger/not scary.

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe

Brawnfire posted:

You know what's cool? When your kid tells you a fact that you just straight up did not know before. My child discovered something about the world I haven't, and they shared that with me. That's incredible.

dad I know about ants. I learned about them in school. they live in nests, and when bad bugs go into the nests to eat their babies the ants are so mad

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

Benagain posted:

dad I know about ants. I learned about them in school. they live in nests, and when bad bugs go into the nests to eat their babies the ants are so mad

This is basically why I want kids

Spikes32
Jul 25, 2013

Happy trees
Hand foot and mouth is infesting daycare. Our time is approaching.

BadSamaritan
May 2, 2008

crumb by crumb in this big black forest


I got the kids a little LED codebreaker game gadget by Giiker and they are obsessed, especially the 6yo. It is a perfect amount of sneaky educational.

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?

Spikes32 posted:

Hand foot and mouth is infesting daycare. Our time is approaching.

Condolences. The one and a half year old is just passing through the last phases of it. Fever is gone but the blisters are evidently quite painful.

If it’s to him anything like what it was like to me three years ago, he’s going through hell. He has a huge blister on his tongue.

It’s impacted his sleep a lot, he wakes up all hours of the night whining/crying and needs soothing. We’re not at all used to it as he’s a very sound sleeper, but here’s hoping tonight’s 7:15 dose of ibuprofen does something for that at least.

Hippie Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Jun 5, 2025

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe
the old humongous games are cheap and fun to play with your kid. She gets to sing along to putt putt saves the zoo! I get to impress her by remembering the lyrics! we all win

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remigious
May 13, 2009

Destruction comes inevitably :rip:

Hell Gem

Count Roland posted:

This is basically why I want kids

It’s such a trip the things that come out of their little mouths! Sometimes when my son is acting up I pretend to call Santa clause and report on his behavior. Well the tables have turned, now my son pretends to call an entity called “the pumpkin” to tattle on me! He says “hello pumpkin, mommy isn’t listening!” I finally asked him who the pumpkin is and my son rolled his eyes and said “the jack-o-lantern!” God that cracks me up!

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