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Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ainsley McTree posted:

Bodie is in an episode of the sopranos. I think it’s in season one, he fucks up stealing a truck.

There's crossovers? Please show me on the chart how many steps removed Munch is from all this.

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ProperCauldron
Oct 11, 2004

nah chill
The Sopranos improves and gets darker in the later seasons.

The creator David Chase was sickened by and became disillusioned with the audience loving and rooting for Tony. If I may oversimplify it, the show grows more and more explicit with stating These People Are Monsters And You Should Not Be Cheering For Them.

I shift on my #1, but in my TV opinion, it's The Wire and The Sopranos at the top and everything else is a way distant 3rd.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Breaking Bad #3

Homicide #2

Darkwing Duck #1

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
The shield is decent and while it does get very actiony I don’t think it’s any more unrealistic than wire season 5 got.

Though it’s weird as the show can’t decide whether the protagonist’s brutality is good or not.

CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Dec 23, 2018

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




I adore The Shield for how much of a piece of poo poo Vic Mackey is. The fall of the strike team is like the best thing put to screen.

The Shield
Sopranos
The Wire

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost

Ainsley McTree posted:

Bodie is in an episode of the sopranos. I think it’s in season one, he fucks up stealing a truck.

Pretty sure it is the very first episode.

I rewatched the Sopranos recently and there were a bunch of Wire cast members here and there. I posted a list. I'll find it using that "?" button in SALR.

Edit: Here it is...

deoju posted:

I rewatched the Sopranos recently, Wire alums pop up in bit parts here and there.

Bodie jacks a truck in the first episode.
Rawls works as a Distract Attorney.
Omar shelters Jackie Jr when he has to hide.
Detective Crutchfield works as a bookie.
Horse Face plays Tony's high school football coach.
Business Card Homeless Man (that's really the name of the character) plays another mentally character in season 6.

Bonus: Maury Levy voices a beaver in a commercial for an insomnia medication that plays in one scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khY4dAdfDTE

deoju fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Dec 24, 2018

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
Who has the most depressing arc in the series? For me it’s Dukie

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Who has the most depressing arc in the series? For me it’s Dukie

Hard to top dukie but randy comes close

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
Yeah I forgot about Randy’s that’s really lovely

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
Randy and Dukie are heartbreaking in different ways.

You think Randy has so much potential, and then the system chews him up, but Dukie never had a chance.

And then there's Namond, who you are sure is gonna be gobbled up by the corner, but Bunny takes an interest in him, and he gets a chance.

Donut's kinda the foil to all of them. He starts off being interested in nothing but stealing cars. He continues being interested in nothing but cars, and the last thing you see that season is him blowing through a stop sign in a stolen car... His path didn't change at all while the others' did.

Edit: Donut's my dude. I love that kid.

deoju fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Dec 24, 2018

Kevyn
Mar 5, 2003

I just want to smile. Just once. I'd like to just, one time, go to Disney World and smile like the other boys and girls.
Donut is hilarious. I love that scene with Bodie on his corner where there’s just a quick shot of Donut rolling past with the window down and music blasting.

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Kevyn posted:

Donut is hilarious. I love that scene with Bodie on his corner where there’s just a quick shot of Donut rolling past with the window down and music blasting.

I’d watch a pulpy spinoff series that’s about a grown-up donut as a high-stakes car thief

inignot
Sep 1, 2003

WWBCD?

Ainsley McTree posted:

I'd watch a pulpy spinoff series that's about a grown-up donut as a high-stakes car thief

Go watch "The 12 O'Clock Boys" instead.

thepokey
Jul 20, 2004

Let me start off with a basket of chips. Then move on to the pollo asado taco.

banned from Starbucks posted:

I adore The Shield for how much of a piece of poo poo Vic Mackey is. The fall of the strike team is like the best thing put to screen.

Absolutely. The Shield may be a lot more cartoonish than something like The Wire, but god drat is it absolutely gripping. I also don't know if I've ever had a show finish where I felt quite as satisfied with the end as I did with The Shield.

Also, not a drama like most mentioned here but one of my all time favourite shows with some incredible writing where not a line of dialogue is wasted to me is The Thick Of It. To me its as perfect a show as I've seen and have to hold it up there with company like The Wire, The Shield, Breaking Bad etc.

Asbury
Mar 23, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!
Hair Elf
Yeah, the writing in The Thick of It (and In The Loop) is really exquisite. I know that Veep is basically the American version of the show, and I admire the hell out of Julia Louis-Dreyfus, but Peter Capaldi's diatribes are up there with Al in Deadwood or Batiatus in Spartacus. Just marvelous.

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


One thing that’s helpful to know about the thick of it is that one of the lead characters mysteriously disappears after season one because the actor got in trouble for (I think, and I hope I’m not defaming him) child pornography, so if his departure seems abrupt, it is.

Doesn’t impact the quality of the show, it’s just puzzling if you don’t know what happened. And yeah Malcolm tucker is just a force of nature.

thepokey
Jul 20, 2004

Let me start off with a basket of chips. Then move on to the pollo asado taco.

Ainsley McTree posted:

One thing that’s helpful to know about the thick of it is that one of the lead characters mysteriously disappears after season one because the actor got in trouble for (I think, and I hope I’m not defaming him) child pornography, so if his departure seems abrupt, it is.

Doesn’t impact the quality of the show, it’s just puzzling if you don’t know what happened. And yeah Malcolm tucker is just a force of nature.

No defaming you’re spot on. It makes it a bit difficult sometimes, but he is also brilliant in the show so the conflict is real. The way they got rid of him still made sense on the context of the show with how brutal politics can be. One minute you’re a somebody (kinda) next you’re gone.


There’s really no weak characters and the only one who maybe is, is basically constantly getting the piss taken out of them for being a weak character. Otherwise the writing is just magnificent - even having swearing consultants come in to make the insults and nicknames as creative and perfect as possible. There was just always something about the show that made me feel the same care went into it to make it great as did something like The Wire. Tucker is a force of nature - as they say - would you rather him rumbling slowly towards you like stomach cancer or appearing suddenly like a stroke? But all the characters are so rich and just through their interactions with each other you get such a great insight into what sort of people they are.

thepokey fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Dec 25, 2018

ProperCauldron
Oct 11, 2004

nah chill

deoju posted:

I rewatched the Sopranos recently, Wire alums pop up in bit parts here and there.

Bodie jacks a truck in the first episode.
Rawls works as a Distract Attorney.
Omar shelters Jackie Jr when he has to hide.
Detective Crutchfield works as a bookie.
Horse Face plays Tony's high school football coach.
Business Card Homeless Man (that's really the name of the character) plays another mentally character in season 6.

Bonus: Maury Levy voices a beaver in a commercial for an insomnia medication that plays in one scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khY4dAdfDTE

There's one you missed:

Michael B. Jordan!

During a rewatch a few years ago, I was watching the credits and I saw his name. I rewound the episode, and he's there. I'm searching now, and its on his IMDB page as his first actor credit.

It's the S1 episode Down Neck. In Tony's flashback, he's following his dad around town. At one point, young Tony starts being followed and called names by a couple of kids. MBJ is one of them. A very bit part, but cool nonetheless.

Always interesting how HBO reuses their actors.

edit- Another fun note, Lady Gaga is among AJ's friends one episode, I believe when they break into the school and throw stuff in the pool. But no, as far as I know, there's no Gaga on The Wire.

exmachina
Mar 12, 2006

Look Closer
Also Dominic West is trolling everyone pretty effectively at the moment.

"The gently caress did I do?"

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Thanks to the above post I learned that Cary Fukunaga is directing the next Bond film :vince:

denzelcurrypower
Jan 28, 2011

exmachina posted:

Also Dominic West is trolling everyone pretty effectively at the moment.

"The gently caress did I do?"

What did he do

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Ornithology posted:

What did he do

I assume this:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dominic-west-says-next-james-bond-transgender-104627069.html

quote:

Dominic West believes next 007 should be transgender.

Dominic West thinks that a transgender actor should play James Bond.

The British star, who has often been linked to the spy role, made the suggestion during an interview with the Sunday Times Magazine.

“Maybe a transgender Bond would be cool,” West said. “There’s a very cool woman who’s the wife of an actor in [his latest film] Colette, who is a captain in the electrical engineers, the highest ranking transgender soldier in the army.

The soldier he is referring to is Hannah Graf who has done two tours of Afghanistan and whose husband is trans actor Jake Graf.

“She’s a beautiful blonde girl who could be Bond, yes,” he added. “That’s actually a brilliant idea. They should have a transgender Bond because there are a lot of transgender people in the army.

“They’d be ideal because they can do everything.”

Daniel Craig will return as 007 in Bond 25 with Cary Fukunaga taking over as director from Danny Boyle, who dropped out over creative differences.

Graf suggested her husband for the role after reading about West’s endorsement.

West can next be seen In his new film Colette, in which he plays Willy, the Parisian husband of the titular heroine (Keira Knightley) who he convinces to writes novels under his pen name.

Based on the true story of the iconic French writer Sidonie-Gabrielle Colette, there is a character in the film called Mathilde de Morny (aka Missy), played by Denise Hough, who may have been transgender at the time.

Missy was an open lesbian but dressed in masculine clothes, wore her hair short and smoked cigars, and had a relationship with Colette for several years.

Colette is in cinemas on 11 January 2019

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.
McNutty spotted in new Tomb Raider.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Avon Barksdale was in 2049

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
You haven't seen 100% pure uncut Dominic West until you've seen his absolutely ridiculous performance in Punisher: Warzone. Holy poo poo that one is really something. He's supposed to be doing like a stereotypical New York/Jersey accent but half the time it comes out as a Cockney accent. Not only that but he has that weirdo Doug Hutchinson to play off of and it's just insane.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
To me his greatest performance will always be as a paparazzo in the timeless classic Spice World.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Addamere posted:

Avon Barksdale was in 2049

Also in Dredd

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
There were vague quotes(I think from Villenueve himself?) about an actor being brought in for a part in 2049 and just not being able to hit the mark that Villenueve was going for with the character and so his part was almost completely cut from the movie. By process of elimination people landed on Wood Harris but I don't think there's ever been definitive proof that it was him.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

also i was just watching the patrick stewart christmas carol and dominic west is scrooge's nephew lmao. he's also supposed to valjean in a bbc adaptation of les mis (the book not the musical)

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"
Dominic West plays Jean Valjean in the new version of Les Miserables airing on BBC this Sunday

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
I was planning on rewatching The Wire, as I've done from time to time, but learning more about Simon's current politics soured me on the whole show. That dude should have stayed off Twitter.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
What's wrong with his politics?

I mainly see him dunking on Trump on twitter when people retweet, but that's not really anything special.

Frosty Mossman
Feb 17, 2011

"I Guess Somebody Fixed All the Problems" -- Confused Citizen
Not sure about his politics since my eyes glaze over at him constantly throwing down with every troll and contrarian he encounters, bizarrely proud of the one or two signature insults he has artisanally crafted by mashing together two words with all the wit of a plank.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
He was getting in the whole Beto O'Rourke thing by attacking some Guardian Journalist on Twitter the whole thing was super weird.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost
I’ll never understand why folks get mad at others who spend their time online dunking on assholes. You might find it a waste of time and dumb and useless but so are like 90% of hobbies out there.

If you don’t want to read it fine, but being willing to openly call out assholes makes him a pretty decent human being.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

MrBling posted:

What's wrong with his politics?

I mainly see him dunking on Trump on twitter when people retweet, but that's not really anything special.

Mainly that he's far too centrist for 2018. He's the guy who's telling you today Carcetti is the only realistic option.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Kemper Boyd posted:

Mainly that he's far too centrist for 2018. He's the guy who's telling you today Carcetti is the only realistic option.

For a man whose best known work is literally about how the system is fundamentally, irredeemably broken, that is extremely disappointing to hear.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
I'd vote for Carcetti over Trump so loving hard.

Edit: My point is this: the candidate put forth by the Democrats will be flawed, but Trump is a loving fascist. Don't lose sight of that.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

deoju posted:

I'd vote for Carcetti over Trump so loving hard.

Edit: My point is this: the candidate put forth by the Democrats will be flawed, but Trump is a loving fascist. Don't lose sight of that.

I mean Carcettis whole character is he would adapt to the situation if it fit his ambition so he would go fash incredibly quickly if need be.

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Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.
Oh god, must there be real world politics even here in this thread? :(

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