Ginette Reno posted:

There is also a recurring theme in old liberal people that I have noticed where basically they are too broke brained by years of failure and Capitalism to even imagine that there can be a better way, and they assume any far left or idealistic candidate is going to lose. Nobody is more emblematic of that than Chris Matthews, but I wouldn't be surprised if David Simon is another one of those who wants change but believes it can only come from what he perceives to be the more realistic candidate.

For some reason a lot of older liberals just can't accept the idea that major change is possible or a good idea. They've been told for years that it has to be incremental and there has to be compromise to get anything done and that concept is drilled into their heads.

algebra testes posted:

Can I be honest? I dont understand how David "the System is broken" Simon isnt all for the system is broken candidate.

And please explain it to me using the word "fucknuckle" for maximum authenticity.

Stairmaster posted:

eleven extra elephants posted:

Completely forgot about this scene but upon rewatch it absolutely slayed me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY67XaX6oM8

gileadexile posted:

So after trying to get into this show on goon recommendations years back and deciding to wait until my wife was into a watch as well, I'm starting a watchthrough. Just wanted to make a post thanking every goon who made a recommend or had some sort of in joke or reference that made me want to watch.

Can't wait to go back to page 8 and read back through to current and see how my thoughts have changed.

Thanks goons.

Basebf555 posted:

Yea I'm a Wire fan who's watched the show at least three times but at no point did I ever feel like David Simon would be a fun dude to just hang out and drink a beer with.

Dumb Lowtax posted:

RIP Stringer Bell, again

https://twitter.com/THR/status/1239631710767190016

Ainsley McTree posted:

that's why you always shut that door

Kevyn posted:

Got that pandemic, yo.

Hasselblad posted:

But...is Wallace OK? Where's Wallace?

1-800-DOCTORB posted:

Kevyn posted:

I’ve seen this show too many times.

Jerusalem posted:

Good point, it IS time for a full rewatch!

Syrian Lannister posted:

I just finished one.

Syrian Lannister posted:

I just finished one.

Milo and POTUS posted:

I've watched the wire several times but I haven't done a single rewatch.

(I watched the rentals several times before returning them)

The North Tower posted:

Time for a rewatch, gramps.

kaworu posted:

Hello, my fellow Wire fans! I have been considering a rewatch, especially since I don't think I have seen anything other than *some* of Season 1 since HBO remastered the show. It'd be cool to watch it again, this time in FHD instead of standard 4:3. I feel like The Wire must've been one of the last 'prestige' dramas to have been made in 4:3, on HBO or anywhere else. By the time The Wire finished its final season, things were very different. It really was a frighteningly accurate mirror of society.

I don't know if it needs to be said now, but I think The Wire has grown exponentially more prophetic, more haunting, more relevant, more... everything. I'm obviously speaking in light of the Covid-19 epidemic, yet it seems not everyone sees any sort of connection; after all, it's not like The Wire ever deals with any literal diseases or sicknesses, and it's not as if they have a season devoted to the dysfunctionality in the health care system in America - it's about other things.

But I honestly do think it is extremely relevant in the midst of this pandemic, and I'd wager most of you folks agree. I mean, this whole ordeal is a massive test of the competence of local., county, and state officials. This is THE BIG ONE. This is putting major pressure on each and every one of the major institutions that he focused on season by season. The cops and the dealers, the blue-collar longshoremen and manual laborers, the goddamn loving politicians and local officials/community pillars, the schools and the children, and finally the *media*.

Each and every one of those institutions/groups of people are going through some seriously intense and dire times. And since we have watched the show, we should have a pretty solid idea of just how dysfunctional they can truly be; not a happy thought.

I think the only ones who are truly thriving and doing better in the face of covid-19 have GOT to be the drug dealers - I include legal dispensaries and liquor stores in this category as well, mostly because their presence on the list of "essential businesses" is a little eyebrow-raising to most of straight America, I'd wager. But that is precisely where they belong. By the same token I have NO DOUBT that drug dealers across the country are just doing utterly amazing sales numbers, with everyone sheltering at home and nowhere to go.


edit: Another thing! I read Simon's book Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets which is... well, you guys probably know drat well all about this book and I don't need to waste time with a summary, right?

It was a really fun, engaging, rewarding read. I can't imagine any fan of David Simon's TV work not voraciously tearing through it. I've never seen the TV show Homicide, and really didn't know much about the real-life Baltimore detectives who served as inspiration for both shows. It was just fascinating to read. And stuff definitely does come up - at one point one of the more interesting detectives tells the "Snot Boogie" story, and it is very cool to read that (written in 1991) and remember watching the scene it inspired on The Wire for the first time over *15* years ago. And it still rings just as true as ever.

Jerusalem posted:

It's a fantastic book, I think The Corner is even better and highly recommend reading it if you haven't.

kaworu posted:

edit: Another thing! I read Simon's book Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets which is... well, you guys probably know drat well all about this book and I don't need to waste time with a summary, right?

It was a really fun, engaging, rewarding read. I can't imagine any fan of David Simon's TV work not voraciously tearing through it. I've never seen the TV show Homicide, and really didn't know much about the real-life Baltimore detectives who served as inspiration for both shows. It was just fascinating to read. And stuff definitely does come up - at one point one of the more interesting detectives tells the "Snot Boogie" story, and it is very cool to read that (written in 1991) and remember watching the scene it inspired on The Wire for the first time over *15* years ago. And it still rings just as true as ever.