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Yeah to me the early seasons of Homicide and the movie are even more compelling than The Wire, despite having to work within strict FCC guidelines. The show's success and expansion of the characters from the book is a big part of what inspired Simon to get The Wire produced. They have amazing guest stars too.
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Lurdiak posted:Yeah to me the early seasons of Homicide and the movie are even more compelling than The Wire, despite having to work within strict FCC guidelines. The show's success and expansion of the characters from the book is a big part of what inspired Simon to get The Wire produced. I mean, Robin Williams is as big as you can get, right?
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algebra testes posted:I mean, Robin Williams is as big as you can get, right? Plays the role of his loving life there too.
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It's been a long while since I watched Homicide but I remember being surprised how grim it gets (and how progressive it was for the time), yet it's slightly hampered by being on network and there were parts that felt very much like some notes had come down from produces and executives to change/add/remove something but it's worth a watch, especially if you've read or plan to read the book. And yeah, it has one of Williams' best performances by far.
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Apr 6, 2020 10:24
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Bruce Cambpell's two-parter is really good too.
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Hmm looking at homicide, the guy who plays Bayliss is from my hometown... Cool?
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The streaming companies are waging an epic war now that everyone's in quarantine. HBO recently joined the fray with multiple shows and movies, including The Wire, available for free. Episodes are shown in remastered HD where possible. It is time to rewatch The Wire.
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Goddamn that's pretty loving awesome!
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escape artist posted:Glad I'm not the only one hearing this! Every. Single. Time. Got that pannnndemic!
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I'm giving this a rewatch and Andre Royo is such a delight.
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Apr 9, 2020 23:55
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That scene when Walon visits Bubbles in the hospital is soul crushing. His whole arc is the best thing about this show (tied with like 4 other things)
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zenguitarman posted:That scene when Walon visits Bubbles in the hospital is soul crushing. His whole arc is the best thing about this show (tied with like 4 other things) I'm going to be frank, like... probably the one and only character about whose story I remained completely and totally emotionally invested in from the first episode through the very last episode was Andre Royo as Bubbles. I mean, I honestly feel like his story is probably the only one about which you can feel almost totally and entirely happy, and he's the only one still in the picture who gets anything resembling a "storybook" ending. It's actually kinda funny, it can be argued that despite changing at some point during the interim, McNulty ends up right where he started, while Bubbles ends the series being allowed to go upstairs, earning back some of his sister's trust at long last  There are probably some other characters who also appeared in all 5 seasons as well as the first and final episodes, but I can't think of them right now... Maybe some of the cops like Herc, Kima, Daniels or Carver, maybe Avon? Tough to recall.
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Apr 10, 2020 10:23
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Bubs does some bad stuff at points but I think one of the high points of The Wire is that it portrays a drug addict as one of the vanishingly few people in the whole show who're actually thoroughly decent
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I cant stand bubbles after like s2. It's like they just give him plot armor or something. Esp when he gets that fat biker sponsor and every scene is them throwing out these dumb nuggets of wisdom or whatever. Bubbles should have ODed in hamsterdam and Bodie should have gotten the happy ending. The ending montage should have had Bodie banging bubbles sister and eating some dank rear end crab legs.
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Bubbles attempts to commit a premeditated murder and ends up accidentally killing a good friend instead. And yet at no point is his decency ever in question.
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I guess technically you can argue that Poot makes it through happy (or at least not miserable) and I'm fairly certain he makes at least once appearance in every season.
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Apr 10, 2020 13:27
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Daniels gets the good Bodie ending.
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Apr 10, 2020 14:10
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Bodie had it coming.
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Lurdiak posted:Bodie had it coming. I don't think even he would be surprised at how he went out
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Bubs having Walon as a sponsor was telegraphed from season 1, they spend a lot of time together and he talks all about rock bottoms. Bubbles' story is kind of interesting to look at in the wake of recent shows showing addiction such as BoJack Horseman. Throughout The Wire we see Bubs doing what we're all told in school happens when you get addicted, you lose your humanity, you rip off dealers and hopefully don't get caught, you steal from anyone who trusts you so you can get another hit. Bubs tries to clean up several times but through various circumstances he winds up back at it again. Sure the BPD did him no favors in season 1 because Kima didn't exactly leave a letter in her desk explaining that one of her CIs was trying to get clean and shouldn't be tasked with buying drugs to scope out dealers, but he still chose to get back on that horse. He eventually takes the personal responsibility after he sees what his life has cost him as his friend dies from a scheme that was going to kill somebody just by design. Bubs has a happy ending because he took personal accountability and still had some relationships that he hadn't irreparably damaged. Compare that to the conclusion of BoJack's story where he has basically no personal relationships with the people we watched for 6 seasons. BoJack pulled similar stunts as Bubbles but whenever pressed he always deferred the responsibility on someone else and even after 2 years in prison he still hasn't changed. What are some other shows that have similar arcs to that? Those 2 feel like something you would see in real life, not something churned out in Hollywoo(d) for cheap sentimentality
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Its final season stuff. BoJack is being an addict for the 1% which is a completely alien universe to Bubbles... Aside from The Wire being gritty realism and BoJack while a very good show also is partially a zany cartoon.
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sure but how many shows go out of their way to have their main character end up where BoJack does at the conclusion of the show? I don't discount that it's a wacky cartoon but it's also a cartoon that isn't afraid to go places that things like Breaking Bad won't go BB maybe isn't a great example but it's what immediately came to my mind
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Aces High posted:sure but how many shows go out of their way to have their main character end up where BoJack does at the conclusion of the show? I don't discount that it's a wacky cartoon but it's also a cartoon that isn't afraid to go places that things like Breaking Bad won't go No I agree its a great show and uses the zany comedy backdrop excellently for the serious issues of mental illness, male privilege and addiction it deals with. However it is still going to be different in tone and come at it from a different angle than the Wire which is essentially a gritty crime drama. Honestly BoJack just by his wealth compared to bubbles is operating in a completely seperate universe more than the fact he is a talking horse. Jack2142 fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Apr 11, 2020 |
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Bojack inadvertently causes the death of someone who might as well be Bubbles as a throwaway gag in season 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lMSWwAoe4E Now obviously this has more to do with the zany cartoon aspect of the show, but it's also a good example of how his wealth insulates him from both consequences and the plight of those in lower socio-economic classes.
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I'm going through a Wire re-watch. Season 4 Episode 11. What's the significance of Albert's mom passing away? It's a strange scene and it's really the only scene we get with just Albert. There's no follow up to it.
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Probably just another example of the different types of trauma that kids bring into school with them everyday.
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zenguitarman posted:Probably just another example of the different types of trauma that kids bring into school with them everyday. I agree with this. Like the scene where Laetitia cut Chiquan with the box cutter, it's there to show that childhood trauma is beyond the scope of the school system to handle. That scene where the silver lining is that she isn't HIV positive - and Prez doesn't click with it at first - has a hell of a weight. Albert's is the same. Also, escape artist, I'm glad you're still around and kicking. This thread has some great takes on this show and your analysis was always a pleasure to read. Eason the Fifth fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Apr 12, 2020 |
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That makes a lot of sense. Well-said. Thanks. I loved analyzing this show. Anyone wanna do a coordinated re-watch during this loving quarantine?
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We could make a thing in the something awful discord!
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The guy who plays Maury Levy is in that movie Molly's Game playing, wait for it, a sleazy lawyer
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He's a lawyer in Liar Liar too.
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where the hell can one legally watch The Corner? Do I gotta buy a DVD? I have Amazon Prime with HBO and it's not on there.
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escape artist posted:where the hell can one legally watch The Corner? Do I gotta buy a DVD? YouTube had it at one time iirc
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Make a The Wire: The Rewatch: The Rewatch thread imo
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Levy’s a non-sleazy non-lawyer in one episode of Veronica Mars!
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I was watching random clips of news radio and he was there too!
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Doesn't he play the dad in some generic Disney family sitcom too?
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Truly, this is his finest performance... https://youtu.be/khY4dAdfDTE deoju fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Apr 13, 2020 |
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escape artist posted:where the hell can one legally watch The Corner? Do I gotta buy a DVD? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Paz0ajIxzI
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