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I'm sure it was mentioned earlier, but for anyone who doesn't know, The Ringer's Way Down in the Hole podcast makes a good companion for any rewatch. It helped me pick up on a lot my second time through.
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Generation Kill is great and an honest look at the start of the Iraq war. Be warned that it dumps a lot of military jargon on you with no explanation, kind of like the wire. You’ll probably need to look some things up and watching with captions will probably help. I loved the first two seasons of Treme, but seasons 3 and 4 aren’t great. I’d say they’re some of the worst David Simons seasons he has done, but that’s still better than most TV. If you don’t like the music, you will have a hard time liking any of it though.
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Yeah as someone who doesn't particularly care about new orleans or jazz, i found treme very hard to get into. i finished the first season, thought it was fine, didn't feel compelled to follow it any further I did enjoy the exchange with the insurance customer service guy who was denying the flood claim under the explanation that the damage was caused by wind (or something lovely like that), which went something like: "how do you sleep at night?" "i drink!"
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Bird in a Blender posted:Generation Kill is great and an honest look at the start of the Iraq war. Not to second guess, but what are you basing that on, firsthand knowledge? I haven't yet watched it, but I take everything on TV with a grain of salt.
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Hasselblad posted:Not to second guess, but what are you basing that on, firsthand knowledge? I haven't yet watched it, but I take everything on TV with a grain of salt. Not the OP, but I was in the Marine Corps 2001-2007 as an infantry mortarman, and was a part of the invasion of Iraq (deployed March - Oct 2003). GK nails what being an infantry marine was like back then and what a stupid goddamn war that was. The attention to detail (like some of the cast wearing the jungle boots with the soles you could only get done at Saigon Sam's down in jacksonville) is absolutely astonishing. The only 'off' thing about it is the final sequence, but it's off because the writers of the show needed a way to wrap up the story with some kind of reflection/meaningful thematic statement. It's a good scene but a little forced. Actually, if anyone has any questions about the Marines or the invasion of Iraq while they're watching GK, I'm happy to field them. It was like 20 years ago so my memory might be a little hazy but I'm sure I can still help folks navigate the military nomenclature.
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Generation Kill is the best non-Wire Simon show for me, but I liked Show Me a Hero and The Deuce a lot too I like Treme but it’s such a tough sell. It’s mostly a low-key hangout show about culture, reveling in music and food, but then every once in a while something just absurdly grim happens
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Hasselblad posted:Not to second guess, but what are you basing that on, firsthand knowledge? I haven't yet watched it, but I take everything on TV with a grain of salt. Mostly that it was written by a Rolling Stones journalist embedded with the unit, and one of the actors on GK was actually in that same unit. I would assume he would’ve said something if it was not accurate. I think it’s gotten a lot of praise for the general accuracy of how hosed up everything was at the time.
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Been thinking about the S3 exchange between McNulty and d’Agostino where she offers cru de te, and McNulty goes “crudity??!” Ugh, painfully awkward.
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Eason the Fifth posted:Not the OP, but I was in the Marine Corps 2001-2007 as an infantry mortarman, and was a part of the invasion of Iraq (deployed March - Oct 2003). GK nails what being an infantry marine was like back then and what a stupid goddamn war that was. The attention to detail (like some of the cast wearing the jungle boots with the soles you could only get done at Saigon Sam's down in jacksonville) is absolutely astonishing. Bird in a Blender posted:Mostly that it was written by a Rolling Stones journalist embedded with the unit, and one of the actors on GK was actually in that same unit. I would assume he would’ve said something if it was not accurate. I think it’s gotten a lot of praise for the general accuracy of how hosed up everything was at the time. Thanks, it's been in my watch list for years, and I haven't gotten around to watching it.
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Is there a Generation Kill thread? I started the series last night and this definitely feels like "The Wire: Iraq"
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There was one when the show came out, but I'm sure it archived by now. I know there's been another one since then, probably a few years ago, but I'm and idiot and no good with SA's search.
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HootTheOwl posted:Is there a Generation Kill thread? I started the series last night and this definitely feels like "The Wire: Iraq"  and link it here!
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Eason the Fifth posted:Not the OP, but I was in the Marine Corps 2001-2007 as an infantry mortarman, and was a part of the invasion of Iraq (deployed March - Oct 2003). GK nails what being an infantry marine was like back then and what a stupid goddamn war that was. The attention to detail (like some of the cast wearing the jungle boots with the soles you could only get done at Saigon Sam's down in jacksonville) is absolutely astonishing. I would be down for a "let's rewatch Generation Kill" thread, I found out about the show through this thread
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Sep 2, 2021 05:20
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They finally got Omar. RIP to a real one.
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 https://nypost.com/2021/09/06/actor-michael-k-williams-found-dead-in-nyc-apartment/ quote:“The Wire’’ actor Michael K. Williams was found dead in his Brooklyn apartment Monday afternoon, law-enforcement sources told The Post.
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poo poo I thought was just a post about the scene in the show OD too, it looks like, man that sucks 
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Sep 6, 2021 20:35
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Eason the Fifth posted:poo poo I thought was just a post about the scene in the show Same, I thought someone just got to that point in their watch. gently caress.
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Sep 6, 2021 20:38
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And gently caress the NY Post just in general. Goddamn what a loving drag this is.
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Sep 6, 2021 20:39
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God, that's awful
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Sep 6, 2021 20:50
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gently caress. Really bummed about this.
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Sep 6, 2021 21:01
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Nooooooooo!!!!
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Literally just finished the series with some friends earlier today (their first watch), so it was a real bummer to find out
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Sep 6, 2021 21:07
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Rest in peace god drat it. Just finished Bosch S7 finale 2 days ago.
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Sep 6, 2021 21:21
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Man that really blows. I never knew he was into drugs. He always seemed pretty with it in any interviews I watched. Really awful news.
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I think I read an article that he was using cocaine during some of the wire, but that he’d kicked it. I guess addiction never really lets you go, this sucks, he should have had a lot of good years ahead of him
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gently caress me, yeah I just assumed Bird in a Blender had just got to that point in their watch. gently caress. 
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Sep 6, 2021 21:55
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Fuuuck. Such a great actor. I only watched The Wire last year and I still sometimes watch Omar clips on Youtube because his performance was so charismatic. I thought he was the standout performer in Boardwalk Empire as well.
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Sep 6, 2021 21:56
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Yeah, he was great as Chalky in Boardwalk. He was really good in. Lovecraft Country. What a pisser. I have an 18 year old cat named Omar because I loved that character so much. RIP to a real one.
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https://twitter.com/WendellPierce/status/1434986053539176456?s=20
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Yea sorry, I should’ve been more clear about what happened.
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From the NYT bio: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/06/arts/michael-k-williams-dead.html quote:Mr. Williams played Omar Little, a charming vigilante who held up low-level drug dealers, perhaps the most memorable character on a series many consider among the best shows in television history. God, this is incredibly sad. It is always hard to get past these demons. RIP
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It's hosed up how many people who die from drug use are people who've previously kicked the habit. Like if anyone would understand the dangers, you'd think it would be them. Obviously that siren song must be alluring as hell though, because it happens a lot.
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RIP, it seems like he was a real good but troubled soul. The best character on the best show with a cast full of great characters.
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Sinteres posted:It's hosed up how many people who die from drug use are people who've previously kicked the habit. Like if anyone would understand the dangers, you'd think it would be them. Obviously that siren song must be alluring as hell though, because it happens a lot. Addiction is a motherfucker yeah; for some drugs you’re never ever really free of it, you just have to work to stay clean every day. Dunno if this is the case here, but tolerance is a bitch too; if you manage to kick the habit for long enough, your old normal dose can suddenly become an OD
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Yeah, and appropriately enough David Simon covers this in great depth really well in The Corner (the book) where he really hammers home again and again just how deeply drug addiction gets its hooks in, and one of the more dangerous things is when somebody who has gotten clean decides to indulge "just one more time" and takes the same amount as they would have back when they were using every day not realizing their tolerance has plummeted.
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I’m grateful that I kicked my heroin/crack habit when I did, right around 2014 is when deaths spiked due to fentanyl and nothing could really be considered ‘safe’. I’m nearly ten years clean and I still miss crack some days. I know one or two extremely successful people in recovery, but if I was a world-renowned figure with tons of money, I’m not positive I’d be able to stay sober. This is a huge bummer, and my heart breaks knowing how lonely and tough that life can be, even for seemingly larger-than-life people
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Omar no
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Will he be missed? RIP
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Man what the gently caress. He gave such a tour de force in Lovecraft Country, too.
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