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Xiahou Dun posted:Colvin’s dude with the giant mustache is the real cop that Jay Landsman is based on.
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Probably not, since he was in the show.Xiahou Dun posted:Colvin’s dude with the giant mustache is the real cop that Jay Landsman is based on.
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I enjoy his Baltimore accent and wish he had more lines Fortunately We Own This City made up for the accent deficit in spades
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surf rock posted:Season 3, episodes four through six: Reading this reminded me that I had heard it in context and understood who and what it was referring to, but I decided to go to Urban Dictionary to see what other people define it as. The only definition uses Carcetti as their example
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FlamingLiberal posted:If I’m the real Jay Landsman, am I annoyed with how they portray ‘Jay Landsman’, the character? Jay Landsman could just not portray a realistic enough Jay Landsman and didn't get the role.
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Aces High posted:Reading this reminded me that I had heard it in context and understood who and what it was referring to, but I decided to go to Urban Dictionary to see what other people define it as. The only definition uses Carcetti as their example On my high school reunion’s facebook page, two people got in a fight in which one of them called the other a “hatchet gash” and I haven’t been able to get it out of my head I didn’t go
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Eason the Fifth posted:
We fight on that lie.
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It was also one of the bigger brands related to the military and the Global War on Terror. Season 3 parallels 9/11 and the american response in a lot of ways (e.g the towers falling, turf wars in the aftermath, "dead soldiers").
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The bit where a dealer says "oh no we don't have that Bin Ladin poo poo anymore, we've got WMD now" is one of those things that so on the nose it warps back around into being funny again
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StashAugustine posted:The bit where a dealer says "oh no we don't have that Bin Ladin poo poo anymore, we've got WMD now" is one of those things that so on the nose it warps back around into being funny again It's just as good (a justification for war) as the last one, we swear! Yeah, it ain't subtle but it's loving great. "Got that pandemic!" hits a little different now though 
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One of my all time favorite moments in this show is Rawls briefly being shown in a gay bar in a real "holy poo poo" moment and then its never ever mentioned or touched upon ever again. The character never changes because of it, there's no gay lover scenes or rumors about him, no one ever discovers it or outs him or anything. ANY show ever written in the history of television would only have done that to set up some crazy plot device involving blackmail or some poo poo but they just did it in a "gay people go places sometimes" way and it was brilliant. I wonder what the lead up to that scene was with the writers and actors.
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BiggerBoat posted:One of my all time favorite moments in this show is Rawls briefly being shown in a gay bar in a real "holy poo poo" moment and then its never ever mentioned or touched upon ever again. The character never changes because of it, there's no gay lover scenes or rumors about him, no one ever discovers it or outs him or anything. ANY show ever written in the history of television would only have done that to set up some crazy plot device involving blackmail or some poo poo but they just did it in a "gay people go places sometimes" way and it was brilliant.
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AtraMorS posted:There's some graffiti in a cop bathroom in an earlier episode that reads "Rawls sucks cock" or something close to that. Yeah but I don't read anything into that whatsoever beyond typical "humor" making fun of a boss, in the same way that the one guy they arrest calling Kima a dyke isn't him secretly figuring out she's a lesbian but just him trying to insult her. I love that Rawls being gay is never made into a "thing", it's just one more facet to a guy who happens to be a boss and a real rear end in a top hat, because the show is interested in showing that everybody except for the top newspaper editors in season 5 are more than just 1 dimensional caricatures. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Feb 16, 2024 |
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Every boss is a human being except my boss who sucks and the up-and-coming kid who wants my job, specifically -The Wire, season 5
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HootTheOwl posted:Every boss is a human being except my boss who sucks and the up-and-coming kid who wants my job, specifically
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The guy who played the hack reporter going on to win an Oscar for Best Screenplay absolutely rules 
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This poster popped up on my FaceBook marketplace They done Bubs dirty with this.
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Ainsley McTree posted:That and the scene where he tries to go on a date with the lobbyist (or whatever her job was) and humbly is confronted with the fact that the only thing he has to talk/brag about is policing and nobody but cops are impressed by that she was also unimpressed with how McNulty implied that her job was completely worthless after she just got done explaining how much she loved her job
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God Hole posted:she was also unimpressed with how McNulty implied that her job was completely worthless after she just got done explaining how much she loved her job That’s Jimmy’s idea of romance.
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BiggerBoat posted:One of my all time favorite moments in this show is Rawls briefly being shown in a gay bar in a real "holy poo poo" moment and then its never ever mentioned or touched upon ever again. The character never changes because of it, there's no gay lover scenes or rumors about him, no one ever discovers it or outs him or anything. ANY show ever written in the history of television would only have done that to set up some crazy plot device involving blackmail or some poo poo but they just did it in a "gay people go places sometimes" way and it was brilliant. I forget if it's the same season, but it does put his (just going to spoiler this for the new person even though I think they might be past this scene) "is there a stripper outside with the real stats" compstat scene in a new light; suddenly it has a real tobias funke overcompensating vibe to it
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Closing out season 3: - Speaking of waiting for the other shoe to drop, Brother Mouzone is back! He's kind of a cartoon character, but it's still fun. - Big surprise, McNulty is intimidated by D'Agostino and doesn't like that she's got an edge on him. - Colvin's speech to Carver about the difference between soldiering and policing felt like a big moment for the show. I wonder to what extent the transformation in policing he described is real instead of rose-tinted glasses for the past. - Alright, I was legit surprised by Rawls showing up at the gay bar. - "SWEET BEATRICE RUS-" - Beadie, no! Nooooo! Don't let McNulty in! - Caroline is not quite the same level of undercover actor as Freamon. - OK, Devonne's death is pretty rough. I haven't had a lot to say about Marlo (he seems pretty generic to me outside of his mandatory quirks of golfing and birdkeeping), but that was memorable. - The main thing I wish this season had was more from the mayor's perspective in the lead-up to the last few episodes. Getting just the perspective of the one city councilman is pretty weak compared to how much we got from multiple perspectives on the street in season one and the port in season two. When he starts mulling over the 14% drop in crime, it's hard to judge whether that's him being the first person to look at Colvin's experiment with sincere interest or just him thinking about the PR boost he could get from that kind of stat. I was legitimately surprised that it turned out to be the former! - I was much less surprised that the councilman ultimately decided to throw away his interest in results to feed his ambition instead. How blah his story ended up being. - Colvin's lack of genre awareness, constantly bragging about how close he was to retirement, was remarkable. Of course it ended the way it did. At least he lived. - Love that Stringer got bamboozled by Clay Davis. He's been such a master-of-the-universe type for so long, but he's swimming in totally different waters now and it's not going to be an easy transition. Avon might be too stubborn about those corners, but he's right to be wary of changing up entirely on the presumption that Stringer is ready to lead them to the promised land. - Oooh, Stringer is cracking up and lashing out. Ordering a hit on a state senator? Stupid as gently caress. Betraying Avon by working with the cops? Very dicey on both a practical and emotional level. - And down goes Stringer Bell! Holy gently caress. I was absolutely certain through the first two seasons that he would be around all five. I started to have a little doubt this season, but I thought for sure he would last through four at least. I am so glad I haven't been spoiled on that in the decades since this show aired. - Goddamn, what a scene. Those fuckin' birds flying around Omar... - I want to know when Avon decided to kill Stringer. Was it when he learned about Dee? Was it when he talked with Brother Mouzone and realized Stringer had sent Omar after him? Or did he just have the feeling that Stringer was coming after him too? - I guess the B&B Enterprises plotline had become a dead end, but still, killing Stringer feels like a real sharp end to a big part of the story web, especially with Avon going back to jail too. That part isn't hugely surprising, but is the street portion of the show really gonna hang on this Marlo character? That's pretty weak. Is Bodie gonna go big-time? Seems unlikely. - I'm a little surprised those weren't Chekhov's grenades during the raid on Avon's safehouse. - You know, I thought for a bit that we might get through a season without an unnecessarily brutal police raid, but we got there in the finale. - Alright, y'all were right, the role of Bernard's girlfriend tuned out to be excellent. - "I can't wait to go to jail." - Bernard surf rock fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Feb 16, 2024 |
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surf rock posted:- "I can't wait to go to jail." - Bernard An absolutely amazing line, yeah  Stringer's death really was shocking, and of course McNulty makes it about himself by lamenting that Stringer died not knowing that McNulty had "caught" him, then puts the boot in by making sure that Avon see's Stringer's name on the paperwork they used to justify the raid. Anyways, I know it feels like an ending, seeing Stringer fall and Avon arrested again, but in my opinion season 4 is the best season of the entire show's run, so enjoy!
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surf rock posted:Closing out season 3: Once he knew that Stringer had played him that way, he basically had to either off Stringer to save his connections, or let him off the hook and then lose his status as one of the biggest power players in the city.
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Yeah, after all his talk to Stringer about sometimes reputation and muscle is more important than money, when he finds out that Mouzone is gunning for Stringer he offers to pay him off and Mouzone is not only offended but openly contemptuous, pointing out that Avon's strength is why he has the connections to the drug dudes he does and if he can't prove that he still does (i.e, give up Stringer to die) then they'll just cut him off entirely.
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HootTheOwl posted:Every boss is a human being except my boss who sucks and the up-and-coming kid who wants my job, specifically I still stand by the fact that the season 5 bosses get better on rewatch, same with how season 2 gets better on a rewatch. Now, I may also be saying this because time has shown that those media ghouls were just as soulless in real life as the show portrayed them. granted, the way Gus is shown does still feel a little  at times, even though he misses the plot many times that season
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God Hole posted:she was also unimpressed with how McNulty implied that her job was completely worthless after she just got done explaining how much she loved her job He wasn't wrong though.
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surf rock posted:- I guess the B&B Enterprises plotline had become a dead end, but still, killing Stringer feels like a real sharp end to a big part of the story web, especially with Avon going back to jail too. That part isn't hugely surprising, but is the street portion of the show really gonna hang on this Marlo character? That's pretty weak. Is Bodie gonna go big-time? Seems unlikely. Season 4, like season 2, goes in a slightly different direction and I think it's the best season of the show (although I am biased due to my occupation). I wouldn't worry about the street side of things being any worse than before. Also, like season 2, it's one of those seasons that's generally better on rewatch because there is a lot going on.
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Aces High posted:I still stand by the fact that the season 5 bosses get better on rewatch, same with how season 2 gets better on a rewatch. Now, I may also be saying this because time has shown that those media ghouls were just as soulless in real life as the show portrayed them. Yeah looking at the state of media now it feels like Simon was trying to warn us with the boss characters
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Yeah, I think the general consensus is that Season Four is the best one by quite a wide margin and whilst I never really grew to be invested in Marlo as a character I do like all the storylines that occur around him. I wish they had got to do the rumored Season Six with a hospital based storyline centering on Bubs and Cutty's girlfriend as it feels like another big detour like Two and Four were.
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PriorMarcus posted:Yeah, I think the general consensus is that Season Four is the best one by quite a wide margin and whilst I never really grew to be invested in Marlo as a character I do like all the storylines that occur around him. That's not what I remember reading about season 6. Season 6 plan was to be focused on the Latino community and the immigration conflicts caused by Baltimore's diverse cultures all fighting for a piece.
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surf rock posted:- Speaking of waiting for the other shoe to drop, Brother Mouzone is back! He's kind of a cartoon character, but it's still fun. There's some pretty wild stuff surrounding the Nation Of Islam, which Mouzone is implied to be a part of.
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surf rock posted:Closing out season 3: He and Omar both are like cartoon characters, characters from a completely different show. But it still just… works!
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spoiler: Omar gets Mouzone his Harper's
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Orange Devil posted:Y'all think Omar has a library card? how else is he gonna read those myths in his spare time?
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No no he was learning myths in school, when he wasn't watching Bunk play lacrosse.
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I forgot to mention: Stringer's penthouse was exactly what I would have expected, right down to the fuckin' katana display behind his desk.
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surf rock posted:I forgot to mention: Stringer's penthouse was exactly what I would have expected, right down to the fuckin' katana display behind his desk. McNulty: Who the gently caress was I chasing? Bunk: A loving weeb, apparently.
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Marlo, Chris and Snoop were loving great and worthy successors/adversaries to the Barksdale org. I don;t know what people are even talking about. I think they needed to show "the revolving door leading to a dead end transitional element" of being a drug kingpin, where every gangster thinks they're the smartest motherfucker to ever do it and there is no loving retirement plan. Marlo's line about the crown, "fact is, they wore it. It's my turn now" is telling, along with "sounds like one of them good problems" when confronted with how to launder all that money. He doesn't give a gently caress how it ends and cares more about His Name - being called a punk rear end bitch...on the STREETS?* At the end of the day, they're not much different than day traders, MLM businesses and corporate raiders (something Stringer was figuring out to some degree). Their tools are just different and require violent solutions since the law is of no use to them and, more, an obstacle; similar to corporations dealing with regulations or the FTC and much closer to a post modern mafia. Omar: "Just like you. You got the briefcase, I got the shotgun" It's just greed and its destructive power all the way down along with all the collateral damage that goes with it. Except there are precious few Golden Parachutes for the ones that lose playing the game. *Marlo doesn't even take his golden chute at the end when he cuts a deal and largely walks with more money than he;d ever need to do anything he wants. He wants the crown is all. And lost it Not at ALL dissimilar to thousands of "straight" rich fucks, politicians and celebrities. EDIT: spoiler tagged because we have a new viewer. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Feb 17, 2024 |
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