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Corte
Jun 28, 2005


Was able to find a brighter bulb that fits my light fixture, definitely makes a difference and hopefully will help the plants until my proper light arrives.

My FLS has generally been helpful but does offer advice that differs from, or contradicts, that which I've received here or read elsewhere online. For example they have advised not keeping a fantail with anything other than another fantail. I guess that's the safest bet but I've seen plenty of sources suggest it's possible to keep some critters with em. They've also generally underestimated the tank size, such as a 10g tank for my first fantail and 20g if I add another. I figure take em with a grain of salt and double check things I'm unsure on.

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Aerofallosov
Oct 3, 2007

It was so peaceful beneath the glittering stars.


My sister bought me 3 neon blue dwarf gobies. I love them so much. They're sometimes hard to find in the tank though. Teeny lil' bubs. They have the best faces and cutest hop.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009



Took some photos to show a friend my shrimp tank and figured I'd post here as an update. Since I last posted in the thread I added some new stem plants (slow to grow, on the right side in the photos) and some kind of carpeting plant in the foreground there which is struggling with the coarse nature of the substrate but I'm happy with it so far. The four amano shrimp are still doing well and keeping it mostly clean. I supplement with shrimp food every 3-4 days.



Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004



That's a nice looking tank!

This may be of thread interest: Megaquarium is a really fun aquarium based tycoon/manager type game that I've had a lot of fun with the past few years, and it's getting a huge freshwater expansion in a few weeks. It uses all real species, and you have to worry about filtration, lighting, compatibility, growth rates etc. I think you can get it on Switch as well as PC.

Gabriel S.
May 20, 2006

I WILL KEEP IMMIGRANT CHILDREN IN A LOCKBOX, AND THAT PAYS DOWN THE NATIONAL DEBT.

Put this Nazi Scientist fuck on ignore immediately!


Update!

Looks like Zuckerburg spying on me has been extremely beneficial! I found these providers over the weekend and this is exactly what I want! My only issue is I would've preferred Acrylic over Glass but supposedly this is solved with the Starfire glass.

Waterbox Aquariums

Ultum Nature Systems

ADA Aquariums

The quality along with ease of use for maintenance is awesome, I'd rather just fork over $$$ than having to do this myself.

Gabriel S.
May 20, 2006

I WILL KEEP IMMIGRANT CHILDREN IN A LOCKBOX, AND THAT PAYS DOWN THE NATIONAL DEBT.

Put this Nazi Scientist fuck on ignore immediately!


As a follow up, has anyone just designed their own filter? Given that 3D Printing is now widely available I think it could be done. I'd just print a large plastic piece(s) and glue it to the back or corner of the tank.



For filtration media, I'd just use whatever generic Aquaclear foam. Buy whatever water pump and also use this to hide the heater. My extra credit would be the outlet. I wonder if I could create some kind of gear that would make it move and put this a on timer so at night there's less current.

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012


Grimey Drawer

3D printed objects usually aren't water tight. You could design and print one but you'd have to epoxy coat it.

For that amount of trouble, just learn to cut and for acrylic instead.

Having said that I run a 3D printing company and I do make Aquarium parts so if anyone wants one to try out just let me know.

Ok Comboomer
Oct 20, 2007



Scientist Al Gore posted:

As a follow up, has anyone just designed their own filter? Given that 3D Printing is now widely available I think it could be done. I'd just print a large plastic piece(s) and glue it to the back or corner of the tank.



For filtration media, I'd just use whatever generic Aquaclear foam. Buy whatever water pump and also use this to hide the heater. My extra credit would be the outlet. I wonder if I could create some kind of gear that would make it move and put this a on timer so at night there's less current.

Seems like way more trouble than itís worth unless you want to custom fabricate something disguised or seamless for a bespoke build. Otherwise thereís tons of off-the shelf options meant to be expanded, customized, and upgraded.

Hell, past a certain point you can get drink or water bottles up to 2-liter size and make multiple kinds of very performant filters out of them. I recently got a pack of 1.5 L bottles of RODI water from Costco for my 10gal reef (normally I go much bigger containers, but I wanted to try these at $5/case) and eyeing the empties like ďI could do so much cool poo poo with these theyíre such a good sizeĒ

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016
Probation
Can't post for 17 hours!


How do you guys successfully combat algae long term?

I have a madagascar lace plant and algae is beginning to grow in a few of its leaves. Some algae is growing on some plants in general too.

Its not out of control or anything, but how do I reduce it and keep it away? I heard you can use a syringe and target attack it with Excel - is this true?

Ok Comboomer
Oct 20, 2007



Phi230 posted:

How do you guys successfully combat algae long term?

I have a madagascar lace plant and algae is beginning to grow in a few of its leaves. Some algae is growing on some plants in general too.

Its not out of control or anything, but how do I reduce it and keep it away? I heard you can use a syringe and target attack it with Excel - is this true?

Water changes, lighting type/time/intensity changes, nutrient changes, maybe add some algae eaters. I just started using phosguard on my reef/frag tank and am liking the results so far but IDK if itís incompatible with a planted tank. Seems like it might be, if the goal is to strip out the water phosphates.

Gabriel S.
May 20, 2006

I WILL KEEP IMMIGRANT CHILDREN IN A LOCKBOX, AND THAT PAYS DOWN THE NATIONAL DEBT.

Put this Nazi Scientist fuck on ignore immediately!


TKIY posted:

3D printed objects usually aren't water tight. You could design and print one but you'd have to epoxy coat it.

For that amount of trouble, just learn to cut and for acrylic instead.

Having said that I run a 3D printing company and I do make Aquarium parts so if anyone wants one to try out just let me know.

If I sent you dimensions could you do it?

Ok Comboomer posted:

Seems like way more trouble than itís worth unless you want to custom fabricate something disguised or seamless for a bespoke build.

Part of the reason for it is it'd be hidden and I could also use it to hid the heater.

Ok Comboomer
Oct 20, 2007



Scientist Al Gore posted:

If I sent you dimensions could you do it?


Part of the reason for it is it'd be hidden and I could also use it to hid the heater.

The ones on the market already largely do this. HOB or internal.

For the cost, if you donít already have the tank, youíre way better off just finding a tank with a built in sump back. Thereís tons out there. Once you start spending what would probably approach $100 or more on this filter project itís far and away the better option.

A false back/built in sump is the best version of what youíre describing, gives you the most space for equipment and filling it with media.

Gabriel S.
May 20, 2006

I WILL KEEP IMMIGRANT CHILDREN IN A LOCKBOX, AND THAT PAYS DOWN THE NATIONAL DEBT.

Put this Nazi Scientist fuck on ignore immediately!


Ok Comboomer posted:

The ones on the market already largely do this. HOB or internal.

For the cost, if you donít already have the tank, youíre way better off just finding a tank with a built in sump back. Thereís tons out there. Once you start spending what would probably approach $100 or more on this filter project itís far and away the better option.

A false back/built in sump is the best version of what youíre describing, gives you the most space for equipment and filling it with media.

How much does it cost to 3D Print something with epoxy? Filter media isn't even $5.

HOB filters are ugly. Ehiem filters are at least $100.

Ok Comboomer
Oct 20, 2007



Scientist Al Gore posted:

How much does it cost to 3D Print something with epoxy? Filter media isn't even $5.

HOB filters are ugly. Ehiem filters are at least $100.

What kind of tank do you have? How big is it? Where do you live?

I can roll HoB filters for <$20 all day in my neck of the woods, for all that theyíre ugly. But thatís where I live. Canisters and sumps are a slightly different matter but can also be had cheap or built.

I still think your best bet is a tank with a false back sump made out of an acrylic or glass plate. Those are not expensive to buy or even fabricate if you have access to opaque acrylic and the tools to cut and put holes in it.

Gabriel S.
May 20, 2006

I WILL KEEP IMMIGRANT CHILDREN IN A LOCKBOX, AND THAT PAYS DOWN THE NATIONAL DEBT.

Put this Nazi Scientist fuck on ignore immediately!


Ok Comboomer posted:

I still think your best bet is a tank with a false back sump made out of an acrylic or glass plate. Those are not expensive to buy or even fabricate if you have access to opaque acrylic and the tools to cut and put holes in it.

Probably 120G. Freshwater.

I'm essentially designing a false back sump. Making this with acrylic does sound easier.

Ok Comboomer
Oct 20, 2007



Scientist Al Gore posted:

Probably 120G. Freshwater.

I'm essentially designing a false back sump. Making this with acrylic does sound easier.

Si, porque lo es, compaŮero.

Itís the way people already do it in the hobby, so thereís a ton of guides out there on YouTube, and forums and such.

You donít have to go full false-back either. You can make (or buy premade) a drop-in acrylic box/overflow system that basically does what youíre describing. It just like silicones to the back of the tank and youíre done.

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012


Grimey Drawer

Scientist Al Gore posted:

If I sent you dimensions could you do it?

Sure, send me an email at Gordon3DP at Geeeeemail dot com.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Phi230 posted:

How do you guys successfully combat algae long term?

I have a madagascar lace plant and algae is beginning to grow in a few of its leaves. Some algae is growing on some plants in general too.

Its not out of control or anything, but how do I reduce it and keep it away? I heard you can use a syringe and target attack it with Excel - is this true?

Snails, ghost shrimp, otto's, dosing with Excel, and an UV sanitizer. That barely keeps the algae away. I turned off the UV light for 3 days and quickly got algae on the glass and over plant surfaces. Even with all of that I'm starting to see clumps of green growth on some of the plants that I manually remove.

I keep my lights on for 14 hours a day so that's not helping, but I work 12 hour days and I'd like to see my fish when I get home.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009



Krispy Wafer posted:

I keep my lights on for 14 hours a day so that's not helping, but I work 12 hour days and I'd like to see my fish when I get home.

I bought smartplugs from amazon, you can plug the lights into it and then use the app to set a schedule for the plug to be on/off. It's like a manual timer but way slicker. Your lights could be on for as little or as much time as you like but you wouldn't have to leave them on all day, that seems crazy.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

VelociBacon posted:

I bought smartplugs from amazon, you can plug the lights into it and then use the app to set a schedule for the plug to be on/off. It's like a manual timer but way slicker. Your lights could be on for as little or as much time as you like but you wouldn't have to leave them on all day, that seems crazy.

The pea puffers go to sleep when it gets dark and donít wake up if I turn the light on at 8pm to feed them. Itís weird, but it means the light has to be on when I get home to prepare their blood worms.

Iím going to get a new light that does more than one sun-up/sun-down phase in a 24 hour period. Then I can give the tank a 4 hour siesta in the middle of the day.

Luneshot
Mar 10, 2014



Even a cheap programmable outlet timer can do multiple on-off periods; I have mine on from 8 AM to 1 PM, off until 5 PM, and on until 10 PM. Plenty of light for the plants, the disruption (supposedly) makes it harder for algae, and the siesta helps CO2 build back up for use in the second half of the day.

DeadlyMuffin
Jul 3, 2007




Krispy Wafer posted:

I keep my lights on for 14 hours a day so that's not helping, but I work 12 hour days and I'd like to see my fish when I get home.

My tanks are time shifted for that reason. Lights don't come on until mid afternoon

Ok Comboomer
Oct 20, 2007



I continue to be surprised by how sensitive corals are to poo poo like circadian rhythm and light schedule.

I shouldnít be, because Iím a biology researcher, but I am.

Hundreds of millions of years of evolution by natural selection honed by the unceasing rotation of the earth, every single dayóall undone by a lazy fucker who just wants to smoke a bit of weed and sleep in during the covid pandemic

DeadlyMuffin
Jul 3, 2007




Ok Comboomer posted:

I continue to be surprised by how sensitive corals are to poo poo like circadian rhythm and light schedule.

I shouldn’t be, because I’m a biology researcher, but I am.

Hundreds of millions of years of evolution by natural selection honed by the unceasing rotation of the earth, every single day—all undone by a lazy fucker who just wants to smoke a bit of weed and sleep in during the covid pandemic

The shifted time schedule hasn't caused any issues I'm aware of, though I'm sure if I was trying to spawn them it'd be a different story

w00tmonger
Mar 9, 2011

F-F-FRIDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS


VelociBacon posted:

Took some photos to show a friend my shrimp tank and figured I'd post here as an update. Since I last posted in the thread I added some new stem plants (slow to grow, on the right side in the photos) and some kind of carpeting plant in the foreground there which is struggling with the coarse nature of the substrate but I'm happy with it so far. The four amano shrimp are still doing well and keeping it mostly clean. I supplement with shrimp food every 3-4 days.





How many gallons is that tank? I have a tiny little fluval spec 3 I'm trying to decide what to do with

DeadlyMuffin
Jul 3, 2007






I've been feeding danio fry microworms, but over the past week or so I've been experimenting with white worms.

I take a pinch of worms as they're feeding so I get a good number of small ones, and I put them in this plastic bowl so they don't get lost in the substrate and can be consumed at the fry's leisure.

So far so good, and it seems like it should result in a lot less waste in the tank.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009



w00tmonger posted:

How many gallons is that tank? I have a tiny little fluval spec 3 I'm trying to decide what to do with

It's a 20L, 5.3g I think. It's a great size but I feel bad that the shrimp can't jump and glide like I've seen in much larger tanks. I'm thinking about getting a long 15g for this reason but my tank is perfectly balanced right now and I'm loathe to go through everything again.

Corte
Jun 28, 2005


VelociBacon posted:

It's a 20L, 5.3g I think. It's a great size but I feel bad that the shrimp can't jump and glide like I've seen in much larger tanks. I'm thinking about getting a long 15g for this reason but my tank is perfectly balanced right now and I'm loathe to go through everything again.
Having just gotten some ghost shrimp I have to say you're definitely missing out. I am really enjoying watching my guys jump around and crawl/swim to the top.

So as mentioned above I have added 10 Ghost shrimp to the 10 gold White Cloud minnows I already had in my 29g high tank. I've also found a few Pond snails kicking around from the Hornwort. The Hornwort seems to be doing better than the Elodea Densa:


Next steps I hope to take are introducing my Fantail and driftwood. I plan to give the tank at least another week to establish than try introducing them when I can pay close attention for a couple hours. If he goes into a feeding frenzy and my little guys can't out swim or hide I figure I could try putting them in my 10g.

For driftwood I was hoping to be able to use pieces I find while hiking with my partner. I've read a bunch of conflicting advice ranging from never use outdoor wood to just boil it before putting it in. If anyone has experience with this I'd appreciate input.

Here's a link to some more pictures and a video if curious: https://imgur.com/a/Gj36sv4

Stoca Zola
Jun 28, 2008



Soiled Meat

I did a quick google and came across this list which seems to match what I remember from previous times this has come up:

quote:

Some woody plant materials are safe for the aquarium. These include:

Alder
Apple
Beech
Birch
Cherry
Hawthorn
Heather
Oak
Pear
Sycamore

The idea is to find dead wood that has dried out. You donít want to use fresh wood filled with sap. Some aquarists peel away the bark to expose the wood underneath.

The same sources recommend avoiding the following plant materials:

Cedar
Cypress
Grape vine - Decays quickly
Horse chestnut
Lilac - toxic to fish
Ivy - toxic to fish
Pine
Spruce
Walnut
Yew - toxic to fish

You want hardwoods that sink and won't rot too fast, and to take off the bark, again so that it doesn't rot. I've had success using a local fallen branch that had been weathering for over a year and I believe was some kind of ironwood. Boiling helps sterilise the wood and might remove tannins but if the wood is going to leech tannins you'll be boiling a long time with lots of water changes before it's all gone; if you don't want tannins the older the wood the better. If you aren't sure about identifying trees I wouldn't risk it unless you know for sure the poisonous trees aren't in your area.

Aerofallosov
Oct 3, 2007

It was so peaceful beneath the glittering stars.


I wish the rainbowfish I want wasn't always out of stock. Maybe I'll just get some of its small friends or chill tetras.

DeadlyMuffin
Jul 3, 2007








I know test kits are unreliable, but gently caress, an order of magnitude?

I figured the visual monitor would be a great way to make sure my cycle was complete and it was safe to put in fish.

Turns out, no. gently caress.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

I have one of those. It's meant to be your HOLY poo poo DROP EVERYTHING NOW AND SAVE YOUR FISH alert. It's not precise by any stretch, but if it's showing ammonia then you've REALLY got ammonia.

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012


Grimey Drawer

Finally making some headway against the thick ugly brown/green filamentous algae in my 50g reef and got my frags moved in. Here's a quick tour:

https://i.imgur.com/5vRnhtN.mp4

edit: Can't get this to embed...

TKIY fucked around with this message at 14:24 on May 27, 2020

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004



Nice looking euphyllia! I think I'm at the point where I can say I beat my GHA problem, after more than a year. Lots of manual removal, scrubbing my rocks with a toothbrush, and I think the final push to get it gone was dosing Vibrant for the past few months. Now I'm dealing with some cyano again, but that is a cakewalk compared to GHA. I'll have to get some tank shots later tonight.

Ok Comboomer
Oct 20, 2007



TKIY posted:

Finally making some headway against the thick ugly brown/green filamentous algae in my 50g reef and got my frags moved in. Here's a quick tour:

https://i.imgur.com/5vRnhtN.mp4

edit: Can't get this to embed...

Roll call roll call

Tell us what you got

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012


Grimey Drawer

Ok Comboomer posted:

Roll call roll call

Tell us what you got

Fish-wise:

Mulitbar Angel
Tomini Tang (temp home for him)
One-Spot FoxFace
3 x Blue Gudgeons
Sapphire Damsel
Flametail Blenny
Cleaner Shrimp, Brittlestars, Cerith/Astrea/Trochus snails

Coral-wise:
Indo Gold Torch
Dragon Soul Torch
Dragon Soul Favia

I also have a frag pack of sticks in there that I lost track of all the names. Bunch of JF stuff, some Reef Raft, couple WWC pieces. Terribly expensive ones because they were pretty. Honestly I think the named coral stuff is a bit silly.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009



TKIY posted:

Fish-wise:

Mulitbar Angel
Tomini Tang (temp home for him)
One-Spot FoxFace
3 x Blue Gudgeons
Sapphire Damsel
Flametail Blenny
Cleaner Shrimp, Brittlestars, Cerith/Astrea/Trochus snails

Coral-wise:
Indo Gold Torch
Dragon Soul Torch
Dragon Soul Favia

I also have a frag pack of sticks in there that I lost track of all the names. Bunch of JF stuff, some Reef Raft, couple WWC pieces. Terribly expensive ones because they were pretty. Honestly I think the named coral stuff is a bit silly.

Videos of the shrimp please!

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012


Grimey Drawer

VelociBacon posted:

Videos of the shrimp please!

Sure? He just hangs out. Will clean your fingers occasionally.

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012


Grimey Drawer

As requested, a skunk cleaner shrimp doing cave stuff.

https://i.imgur.com/bvWgjBg.mp4

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Aerofallosov
Oct 3, 2007

It was so peaceful beneath the glittering stars.


You have an excellent skrimp. I love those little guys.

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