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Decius
Oct 14, 2005

Ramrod XTreme

Pick posted:

Geez, dude is not attractive :psyduck:. Or at least I'm not seeing it.

He has a killer mustache though.

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Maera Sior
Jan 5, 2012

I was really struck in this episode by how well Rhys Ifans managed to copy Sherlock's body language.

Ither
Jan 30, 2010
I wish Joan and Mycroft hadn't slept together, but I'm interested in seeing where it goes.

Blind Pineapple
Oct 27, 2010

For The Perfect Fruit 'n' Kaman

1 part gin
1 part pomegranate syrup
Fill with pineapple juice
Serve over crushed ice

College Slice
The reveal of Joan and Mycroft hooking up was out of left field (you'd think Sherlock would've picked up on it sooner), but Sherlock's reaction to whole thing was perfect. Total "nice guy best friend" type all the way.

I'd agree that Ifans and Liu don't have any romantic chemistry on screen, which is fine for a one-night stand, but hopefully they don't drag it out. I am glad they moved Mycroft to NY, though, because Ifans and Miller have excellent chemistry and there's a lot of mileage left in the estranged brothers angle. Their scenes together in this episode were great. Love the way Mycroft portrays being noticeably less smart than Sherlock, but still smart enough to kind of hang in a battle of wits, and his main advantage is being better socially-adjusted as an adult. In that respect I guess, you can see where he'd have a lot in common with Joan. I imagine Moriarty will be involved in the family drama eventually.

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D

Pick posted:

Geez, dude is not attractive :psyduck:. Or at least I'm not seeing it.

Maybe Joan is part of the group of people who think British guys in the vein of Alan Rickman are attractive because of the voice (because other wise yeah, I'm not seeing it either.)

Sophia
Apr 16, 2003

The heart wants what the heart wants.
Sign me on as someone who was really confused. I thought Joan was uncomfortable because she knew Mycroft was sick and didn't tell Sherlock about it, and she made up the sleeping with him thing as a plausible story for discomfort that he would believe because he is a baby about these sort of things. If it's true that's really weird because they have like, negative chemistry on screen.

CAROL
Oct 29, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
The best thing about sherlock in this series is that he's basically the ulillillia of crime solving

ProfessorLoomis
Apr 5, 2007

I LUST FOR MONKEY DEATH
I love it and all, but in the Books i'm pretty sure Mycroft was as smart or smarter than Sherlock, he was just far lazier.

Catzilla
May 12, 2003

"Untie the queen"


ProfessorLoomis posted:

I love it and all, but in the Books i'm pretty sure Mycroft was as smart or smarter than Sherlock, he was just far lazier.

I think in the books Holmes even states that Mycroft is far smarter than him and the implication is that Mycroft is the main power behind the British government.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d'être is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Catzilla posted:

I think in the books Holmes even states that Mycroft is far smarter than him and the implication is that Mycroft is the main power behind the British government.

Yeah, there's one or two times he has to go to Mycroft for help when he can't figure something out. And Mycroft is literally a human computer who keeps track of all the functions of the government.

"Occasionally he is the British government [...] the most indispensable man in the country."
"The conclusions of every department are passed to him, and he is the central exchange, the clearinghouse, which makes out the balance. All other men are specialists, but his specialism is omniscience."

He's just absolutely lazy as hell and only wants to hang out drinking at his club.

Personally, I like the Restaurateur version the show is pushing. But considering what they did with Irene Adler/Moriarty I wouldn't be surprised to see them going for a twist with Mycroft.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!
I kind of liked that Joan/Mycroft sleeping together came out of nowhere. I think most other shows would have made some kind of awful love triangle out of it, so I like that this show continues to avoid any and all sexual tension/awkwardness between Holmes and Watson. Same thing with Sherlock sleeping with Watson's friend in the earlier episode. It's just something that happens and because these two aren't ~secretly in love~ with each other, there's no drama to be had there so instead they can just skip to the reactions.

hollylolly
Jun 5, 2009

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I didn't mind the Joan/Mycroft thing because it's been established she's not seeing anyone, hasn't for a long time, and Holmes often encourages her to go out and have sex. Just because you might not think that Mycroft is a catch doesn't mean that he isn't exactly Joan's type. Not that I think he is, I think it was more like what she said it was. She had been on her guard and he won her over by being nice and concerned about Sherlock (and the brush with death/leukemia) and she was in London for the first time and leaving soon and wouldn't be seeing him again. Add a couple glasses of wine and an accent, Mycroft basically would have to be a moron not to score with Joan.

So yeah. Didn't bother me. And Rhys Ifrans or whatever his name is isn't that bad looking.

spookygonk
Apr 3, 2005
Does not give a damn

VDay posted:

Same thing with Sherlock sleeping with Watson's friend in the earlier episode.
And Sherlock, who then disappeared for a year, turned up out of the blue to apologise for his behaviour and promptly sleeps with the woman again.

Rabbit Hill
Mar 11, 2009

God knows what lives in me in place of me.
Grimey Drawer

hollylolly posted:

So yeah. Didn't bother me. And Rhys Ifrans or whatever his name is isn't that bad looking.

But that mustache. :dawkins101:

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Rabbit Hill posted:

But that mustache. :dawkins101:

Ugh, I know, it's terrible!

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
I've never actually seen someone who looks like they had their face smashed in with a hammer decide "hey, you know what, I think I'll try and make myself as ugly as possible by then having a horrid haircut and then adding the worst moustache known to man."

I don't mind the premise of Joan and Mycroft sleeping together, but good God they have no chemistry on screen and it makes the whole thing really tedious to watch.

uublog
Jul 19, 2012

"World Champions. WORLD FUCKING CHAMPIONS." - Chase Utley, October 31, 2008; Broad Street, Philadelphia, PA

jscolon2.0 posted:

Olivia d'Abo getting typecast as a master criminal. Say "Bawbby" for old times sake.

As soon as she appeared on screen I knew that she was hiding something criminal.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Zore posted:

Yeah, there's one or two times he has to go to Mycroft for help when he can't figure something out. And Mycroft is literally a human computer who keeps track of all the functions of the government.

"Occasionally he is the British government [...] the most indispensable man in the country."
"The conclusions of every department are passed to him, and he is the central exchange, the clearinghouse, which makes out the balance. All other men are specialists, but his specialism is omniscience."

Yeah, Holmes is to Mycroft what Watson is to Holmes. In the stories Holmes dislikes his brother because he refuses to utilise his talents except in rare times of crisis, when he is paid fees so exorbitant that he never has to do any other work.

I like that Mycroft's restaurant is called Diogenes - Mycroft's club was the Diogenes Club, and was unique in that it was a club for gentlemen to visit when they wished to be antisocial - and that he's lazy enough that all he wants to do is go to it even though he's talented enough to run the kitchen.

hollylolly
Jun 5, 2009

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New episode tonight!

Blood is Thicker
When a beautiful young woman is murdered, Holmes and Watson investigate her ties to a billionaire CEO. Meanwhile, Mycroft makes a case for Sherlock to move back to London.

Crossing my fingers for a Clyde cameo!

ProfessorLoomis
Apr 5, 2007

I LUST FOR MONKEY DEATH
Oh no, Mycroft, whats goin on?

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Well that's going to be awkward to explain.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
I was hoping it'd be genuine too, since it was such a good way to give some really weird private cases. We've had some already, yeah, but they were all ultimately police business too.

And since it's going to be undoubtedly be overlooked for the Mycroft stuff, I looked up (Swedish) Moose Cheese out of curiosity. Stuff costs $500/lb, which is pretty nuts.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



:10bux: says he was talking to Moriarty.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

explaining is endorsing
It's great to see Damar back on TV.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

I think I see where this is going, but if I'm right there's a big mistake by the hospital.

Edit: Okay well, lab tech in on it covers that.

Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Nov 15, 2013

ad090
Oct 4, 2013

claws for alarm
When Mycroft was first introduced I thought it was strange that they didn't make him as smart or even smarter then Sherlock, and that he was a chef/restaurant owner, instead of working for the government, which is what he was in the stories, I think. It had occured to me that it could be a cover story, but that it was more likely that they just changed his character in this adaptation. My first guess might not have been wrong.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Mycroft is ugly, he needs to go away a while

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

But wait, Sherlock found out Joan wasn't his sober companion in the first season after talking to his father!

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

ashpanash posted:

But wait, Sherlock found out Joan wasn't his sober companion in the first season after talking to his father!

Mycroft said "spoken directly".

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

Pick posted:

Mycroft said "spoken directly".

I believe Sherlock said "I found out when I spoke to him last week" or something to that effect. I think that implies direct communication of some type.

Edit: He also got money from his father in last year's "A giant gun, filled with drugs"

ashpanash fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Nov 15, 2013

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



New theory: Their father is dead and Mycroft hired someone to impersonate his voice for some reason.

inklesspen
Oct 17, 2007

Here I am coming, with the good news of me, and you hate it. You can think only of the bell and how much I have it, and you are never the goose. I will run around with my bell as much as I want and you will make despair.
Buglord
Or Mycroft doesn't know them as well as he thinks he does.

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
Why didn't I realize that the CEO guy was basically Steve Jobs, why.

You are a nerd
Apr 9, 2003

See?
My audio cut out for Mycroft's phone call, and it sounds like it was more ominous than it looked, so can someone give the cliffs notes recap?

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!

You are a nerd posted:

My audio cut out for Mycroft's phone call, and it sounds like it was more ominous than it looked, so can someone give the cliffs notes recap?

He said something along the lines of "My gambit didn't work, Sherlock didn't go for it/buy it. Father and him haven't talked in ages so I doubt they'll catch on to what I did. We may have to find another answer to our problem."

Basically a big crazy reveal that Mycroft's been planning something this whole time and the whole thing about their dad disowning Sherlock was just a ruse because he's trying to get Sherlock to come back to London for some reason.

Hotwire
Mar 11, 2006

hehehe
Surprise birthday party. Mycroft is just trying incredibly hard to keep it a surprise.

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011

Compendium posted:

Why didn't I realize that the CEO guy was basically Steve Jobs, why.
No black turtleneck.

Wonder what made them go for a London phone number with "412" in it? "555" would work just as well (I'd thought we're only using 7XX and 8XX but it looks like 3XX is getting some use too)

JuHoZ
May 13, 2009
Maybe it was the Queen!

johntfs
Jun 7, 2013

by Cowcaster
Soiled Meat

ashpanash posted:

I believe Sherlock said "I found out when I spoke to him last week" or something to that effect. I think that implies direct communication of some type.

Edit: He also got money from his father in last year's "A giant gun, filled with drugs"

Maybe Father didn't mention the phone call to Mycroft, so Mycroft didn't know about it.

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ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

johntfs posted:

Maybe Father didn't mention the phone call to Mycroft, so Mycroft didn't know about it.

I just checked, and the line is "I found out when I telephoned him last week."

So yeah. Either Mycroft doesn't know, or it's a writer screwup.

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