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Arquinsiel posted:I went out with a girl who got into showjumping when she was in her early teens and still kept their old competition horses in the family home just because. You get all kinds of crazy disproportionate. It's kind of... disturbing. Think Goldeneye. What you know about thunder thighs, son?
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Hell with it, let's have the Gamages ad in here, shall we? I'm sure the blokes were thrilled to find their sacrifice being exploited to hawk "Record Bargains in the Boot Department" and "The Crow Master Vibrator". (Which is apparently "Easy to Fit", "Certain in Action", "Easy starting", "Improved and smoother firing", and "More power". Usual price was apparently 39 shillings and sixpence, the 1914 equivalent of "£1.99", including the deliberate salesman's rounding down from a big number.) Trin Tragula fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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MA-Horus posted:What you know about thunder thighs, son?
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366 years ago today, the Treaty of Münster (which isn't the same as the Peace of Münster) and the Treaty of Osnabrück were signed. These were important parts of the Peace of Westphalia. Although peace has not been restored throughout Europe, the Thirty Years War is over. Is this of the Treaty of Münster or the Peace of Münster? It's got different labels on different websites. (A representative of soldiers was there, threatening to start the war up again if provisions weren't made for the mercenaries lol) HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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Why did the hack artist copypaste like 10 guys with black hair, mustache and soulpatch?
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Hogge Wild posted:Why did the hack artist copypaste like 10 guys with black hair, mustache and soulpatch? Why are so many of them holding their fingers up as well? "hey bro smell this" "no smell this intead" "no mine dammit" *brawl starts, 30 years war continues*
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:What advantage do you think stirrups provide? Stability in the saddle? I had thought that mounted combat was much more difficult without stirrups.
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Oct 24, 2014 19:45
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Agean90 posted:Why are so many of them holding their fingers up as well? HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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Oct 24, 2014 19:50
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Serious poo poo in the 17th century especially.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Generally speaking much, much later. We're talking 3+ years later for most countries. In Britain and Germany the social democratic parties (Labour and the SPD, respectively) had far-left splinter factions that maintained an anti-war stance. In the UK the Independent Labour Party was affiliated with the mainstream Labour Party but continued to oppose militarism, which resulted in a large part of their membership deserting to pro-war Labour. They recovered somewhat after the war. In Germany the SPD leadership supported the war vigorously but a portion of the membership was opposed from the start but were marginally kept in line, but and the infighting grew more serious through 1915 until finally a number of prominent anti-war socialists were expelled. They went on to form the Independent SPD (USPD) which of course played a big role in the German Revolution. And then later on many of the key players in German far left politics for the next 30 years or so came out of the USPD.
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Fangz posted:Do any of the lefties start denouncing the war at this time, or does that only come later? Also, in France, the socialist party led by this guy tried to use mass strikes and demonstrations amongst the workers to stop the slide to war. However, he was assassinated by a French nationalist shortly before the war broke out.
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Frostwerks posted:This is a stupid rear end question but I kinda do wanna know if anyone could give me a brief rundown on how thermal imaging works? And given the topic, I mean both in general and how it's used in military/police applications. My knowledge on photon physics, god I hope that's right, is pretty loving barren and basically boils down to allowing one to see in darkness and obscurities based on from what I gather heat. This question will seem slightly less stupid when someone gives me a layman's account and I'll reveal the impetus for admitting to my stupididity "Photon physics" isn't a technical term but people will understand what you mean. You want to ask about "optics" as it applies to night vision cameras. After a cursory glance, the wikipedia pages on night vision and thermal cameras seem pretty good. There are two basic strategies for night-vision, amplify the tiny amount of visible light that's there already, or use some other kind of light. I'll focus this post on the latter. One physics thing that EvanSchenck's post wasn't totally clear about (ha): The visible spectrum is just one very small slice of what we would call the electromagnetic spectrum of light. The extremely high energy gamma rays that come from space, the x-rays doctor's use, visible light, radio waves, and the ultraviolet rays that cause skin cancer are all examples of the same phenomena, which we refer to as photons. The sun emits light waves peaking from about 400nm (nanometers - 10^-9 m) to 700nm, which is almost certainly why our eyes are sensitive to this range. To give you a sense of scale, we commonly use radio waves for communication; these have wavelengths between 1 millimeter (10^-3m) and 1 kilometer (10^3m). The infrared rays you asked about are just "above" the visible, from about 700nm to about 1,000,000 nm (1mm). Hot things tend to emit more of them. Sorry about all the different units, but it helps to get a sense of scale about what we're talking about. For reasons more appropriate for the physics thread, we can think of light either as a wave (a bit of something oscillating back and forth like a pendulum) or as a little point particle. That's why I've given a bunch of wavelengths above but for the rest of the post I'm going to talk about photons as particles being sent out and bouncing around before being absorbed. The basic idea of what these systems do was covered pretty well by EvanSchenck; an infrared light source is mounted on the front of the vehicle that sends out streams of infrared photons (think of a spotlight). However, these photons are infrared, so we can't see them. These reflect off of surfaces, effectively illuminating them. Infrared cameras on the vehicle pick up this reflected light, and translate it into a false-color image that is relayed to the occupants inside the vehicle. This is how we get those stereotypical washed-out green images from night-vision cameras, a computer is scaling wavelength of the light from infrared to something in the visible, so we can see it. As to how these are used, I think that police are still big on spotlights because they usually aren't worried about return fire on a huge magnitude. The specific thing that I'm thinking of is the "Night Sun" spotlight found on police helicopters that can effectively illuminate a patch of ground to approximately the same light levels as you get in day-time, but it's surprisingly hard to find info about. Fox new report about use of the spotlight to save someone from a mountain lion!. The military applications of night-vision systems are obvious. If you can see in the dark but your enemies can't, you are significantly less likely to get shot. This is especially helpful in asymmetric warfare, whether it be a small special operations unit against a larger organized force or insurgents versus a conventional military. In particular, I can point to the British military's new generation of vehicles operating in Afghanistan. I believe that the British Cougar is fitted with night-vision systems from the Thales group. Here is a data sheet from one of their cameras. The sheet indicates that the camera can detect light from (8-12)micrometers - (8000-12000) nm as a comparison to the visible (400-700) nm. These cameras may be used to very good effect for night convoy missions. If you can move long trains of vehicles safely at night, you are much less vulnerable to roadside ambushes or coordinated strikes that could occur during the day. Legendary Ptarmigan fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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Oct 24, 2014 23:28
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Are there any good books like Armored Thunderbolt on the T-34 ?
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100 Years Ago I've updated the awful map of the Ypres salient, by the way. Loads happening today, mostly Germans breaking into Polygon Wood and scattering the line. They've a serious chance of a breakthrough, if only they can exploit it. The Telegraph has a light-hearted day, publishing several amusing stories about comedy foreigners (it's also Saturday, which means the latest instalment of Mrs Eric Pritchard's "A Page for Women"). There's also a new British military history journal that y'all will probably be interested in, it's open-access and aimed at a general audience. First issue is broadly Great War-focused, but hopefully they'll open the scope up a bit.
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Retarded Pimp posted:Are there any good books like Armored Thunderbolt on the T-34 ? Panther vs T-34 is good, I guess? Mythical Weapon too, but good loving luck getting a copy for a reasonable amount. It also discusses mostly technical aspects of the vehicle, and the analysis of combat ability is excessively negative. Of course, if you read Russian, there has been an influx of excellent scholarship in the past decade or so based on declassified archive materials, but odds that any of it will ever make it into English are slim to none.
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Trin Tragula posted:100 Years Ago Would this possibly qualify?
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Davin Valkri posted:Would this possibly qualify? Close, but not quite. All the dialog has to be sung for it to be an opera. Spoken dialogue with songs is a musical.
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Deteriorata posted:Close, but not quite. All the dialog has to be sung for it to be an opera. Spoken dialogue with songs is a musical. Rewrite it as a rap collaboration, then. Easy.
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Legendary Ptarmigan posted:In particular, I can point to the British military's new generation of vehicles operating in Afghanistan. I believe that the British Cougar is fitted with night-vision systems from the Thales group. Here is a data sheet from one of their cameras. The sheet indicates that the camera can detect light from (8-12)micrometers - (8000-12000) nm as a comparison to the visible (400-700) nm. Those are thermal sensors. They detect minute differences in temperature and create an image. IR/night vision uses reflected light(IR, moonlight, etc) to generate an image. A thermal sensor will not pickup a beam of light emitted by an IR source, but it will pickup the source itself due to the heat that it generates while emitting the light. http://www.flir.com/cvs/americas/en/view/?id=30052
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Davin Valkri posted:Would this possibly qualify? The other thing about it is that even if they had made it entirely sung, the whole point is that there's not any original songs (and therefore, no need for a librettist); the entire soundtrack is period. I'm far too fond of posting the film version of Belgium Put The Kibosh On The Kaiser, and once you put the big production number on it, it suddenly looks so completely ridiculous that it's easy to forget that it was actually a period patriotic song. Propaganda has come a long way in the last hundred years!
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100 Years Ago It's Sunday again, but precious few have time for a church parade today. The BEF races to plug the gap at Polygon Wood, King Albert of Belgium presses the "In case of Germans, break glass" button in Nieuport, casualties continue to mount, the Engineers go out on the rob, and the Spectator's editorials continue to alternate the most amazing clear-headed thinking with the most completely ridiculous blinkered bollocks.
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Here's a nice thing. quote:And at the same time, Herod the king stretched forth his hands, to afflict some of the church. And he killed James, the brother of John, with the sword. And seeing that it pleased the Jews, he proceeded to take up Peter also. Now it was in the days of the Azymes. And when he had apprehended him, he cast him into prison, delivering him to four files of soldiers to be kept, intending, after the pasch, to bring him forth to the people. Peter therefore was kept in prison. But prayer was made without ceasing by the church unto God for him.  But you can see where the interest of the painter lies. (David Tenier the younger, 1647) Early Modern and Renaissance Deliverances of Saint Peter are always done in a contemporary guardroom, because artists love the genre interest. Here is Raphael's:   These guys were far more on top of things than Tenier's guards, who've neither noticed nor cared that their prisoner is on the way out, but it hasn't done them any good. Look at the poor contractor on the left of the detail: half dressed and fumbling with his armor. Oh poo poo, what now HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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If any milhist goons are up for a painful couple of hours, look up cannakale on YouTube. Turkish film about gallipoli featuring plenty of garands and 'British' officers who are obviously Turkish, dubbed over with American accents  I lasted half an hour!
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HEY GAL posted:Pictures. Reminds me of the Bruegel landscape with Icarus. Also, I sort of wonder if those guys in the painting aren't the ones who commissioned it (like with Rembrandt's Night Watch), since Google tells me the same guy has also made another very similar work.
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Tevery Best posted:Reminds me of the Bruegel landscape with Icarus. Also, I sort of wonder if those guys in the painting aren't the ones who commissioned it (like with Rembrandt's Night Watch), since Google tells me the same guy has also made another very similar work. Edit: I just noticed this: check out the Deliverance of Peter. The sash of the guy in the buff coat, the tassel on the partisan leaning against the wall, and the coat lying on the bench are all red. Is that the regimental color of these fictional files, or did the artist pick that because the Roman Empire and the Holy Roman Empire tend to blur together in these peoples' minds? For instance, here's St. Maurice, patron saint of infantry soldiers, as painted by early modern Germans. Maurice was an Oberst or something in the Roman army, and look at the flag he's holding.  Such a fan of his outfit in this one--there's pearls hanging from his gorget, and little gold chain things on each feather in his cap.  Meanwhile: 
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I wonder what the NAZI's would have thought of the patron saint of German infantry being a black dude in bling armor.
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Animal posted:I wonder what the NAZI's would have thought of the patron saint of German infantry being a black dude in bling armor. These dudes were a little later than the Teutonic Knights so probably gave no fucks and ignored it.
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100 Years Ago The French attempt an advance in the Ypres salient, which fails miserably, the score being Barbed Wire 4, Elan 0. Meanwhile, the Daily Telegraph carries an enormous number of fashion adverts, and the Germans use a mean, sneaky, rotten trick on the Menin Road. It's the sort of thing that Bugs Bunny would have been proud to use while defending the Bagel Heights from Yosemite Sam.
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Animal posted:I wonder what the NAZI's would have thought of the patron saint of German infantry being a black dude in bling armor. Edit. Meanwhile...  The guys I study have a high opinion of themselves. Nobody else shares it. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Oct 26, 2014 |
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Man, I didn't need another reason to hate the loving Pinkerton's, but apparently they couldn't even gather military intelligence for the Union for poo poo. I guess if a task wasn't killing unarmed strikers it was just too tough for them.
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A bit late to the improvised tank armor chat, but in Sweden they experimented with this: HEAT was a Big Problem in the 50's and there was a lot of research going on regarding how to protect against it. After a lot of test firings at dozens of different materials, it was concluded that granite offered the best protection for the weight and volume, but I don't think it was actually tested on a real vehicle. Standoff screens were preferred instead, and that's one of the reasons why the S-tank looks like it does. Also, n:thing the Ofredsår recommendation. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Oct 26, 2014 |
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:Man, I didn't need another reason to hate the loving Pinkerton's, but apparently they couldn't even gather military intelligence for the Union for poo poo. I guess if a task wasn't killing unarmed strikers it was just too tough for them. I would really love to read a monograph about why the intelligence the provided was so godawful. It's like half them being incompetent and half Mac always wanting to believe he was always up against a superior force. Did no one think to have some sort of Confederate order of battle charted down. The last book I read that mentioned the subject (Sears on the Peninsula campaign I think) basically concluded that McClellan thought he was outnumbered so the Pinkertons came up with numbers to fit that view.
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My understanding is that they were inadvertently collecting and reporting the entire strength in theater, including garrisons, men on sick call, detached service, furlough, etc, not "number present in field army."
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TheFluff posted:A bit late to the improvised tank armor chat, but in Sweden they experimented with this: Centuries later we would still ride into battle wearing chain and plate.
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Eej posted:Centuries later we would still ride into battle wearing chain and plate. In Chariots, no less.
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Hunterhr posted:I would really love to read a monograph about why the intelligence the provided was so godawful. It's like half them being incompetent and half Mac always wanting to believe he was always up against a superior force. Did no one think to have some sort of Confederate order of battle charted down. As much as the ACW was sort of the first truly well documented major war, most of the stuff about intelligence was either destroyed or not recorded. So, we don't really know much. One major thing to keep in mind is that most of the battlefield intelligence was gathered by spies and scouts who worked for specific generals and not as a part of any sort of centralized intelligence operation. The whole point of centralizing your intelligence is to compare/contrast disparate estimates and then come up with a hybrid estimate that, at least theoretically, is more accurate because of wisdom of crowds and all that. So, a lot of the quality of intelligence came from the skill of the general, both in finding agents and in dissecting their reports. Longstreet was particularly gifted at this, as was Sherman. With Pinkerton, as you say I suspect that he was more of a yes-man than a true agent, which for him meant telling McClellan what he wanted to hear (there are hundreds of thousands!) rather than what his best estimate was (there are not that many!). So long as he kept feeding Mac the right info, he was in a job.
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TheFluff posted:A bit late to the improvised tank armor chat, but in Sweden they experimented with this: I see your chain-tank and I raise you "Hairy Mary," the rope-armored train 
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100 Years Ago The French advance about 50 yards towards Poelcappelle. The Germans advance about 50 yards past Neuve Chapelle. Generals on all sides remain optimistic of achieving a breakthrough very soon. A brand-new British dreadnought gets turned into interesting sea-bed furniture. And golf clubs across Britain consider banning any member of German descent from their premises, to save true Britons any embarrassment in case they should happen to accidentally mention the war. (Sadly, it is not recorded whether "of German descent" might include the King, son of a German father and a mostly-German mother.)
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There was an Imperial Russian proposal for 70 cm of tightly wound rope backed with steel to be used as fortress armour, but it never made it into production. Although, my favourite was the one that proposed to surround armoured cars with pipes that would spray gasoline and then ignite it. Flamethrowers in every direction!
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Ensign Expendable posted:There was an Imperial Russian proposal for 70 cm of tightly wound rope backed with steel to be used as fortress armour, but it never made it into production. Although, my favourite was the one that proposed to surround armoured cars with pipes that would spray gasoline and then ignite it. Flamethrowers in every direction! Well that's a uniquely Russian solution 
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