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been there, won that
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# ? Nov 13, 2014 23:50 |
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Cache Cab posted:If you guys think you're better then me then brawl me Ha, you'll be a smear on the wall once I'm done with you
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# ? Nov 13, 2014 23:55 |
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I'll volunteer as Cache Cab's pit crew: if you need editing help, PM me.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 00:04 |
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Cache Cab posted:If you guys think you're better then me then brawl me Broenheim posted:Ha, you'll be a smear on the wall once I'm done with you Cash-Bro Brawl I want you to tell me, in 2000 words, due by November 21st at midnight PST, a story inspired by the concept of social capital. Cache Cab, you will have to use your imagination because you'll never know what it's like to have social capital. Remember, this is a . If either of you fail to submit, your name will forever be stricken from the book of goon. At least until you cough up :tenbux:
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 00:07 |
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Ah, break time. My favorite time of the slack. Benny the Snake ~ Here's what I remember about your story, the better part of a week in the past. Kid and his dad go fishing. A few of the descriptions came from an encyclopedia. Kid tries to trick dad into giving him a beer, but fails. Then succeeds. There was some genuine warmth in the relationship. Now I'm going to read it again while I munch on salted seaweed and summarize my thoughts. I like that this story is short in scope -- you set out to characterize a relationship, and that's what you did. It was also relatable -- I'm not sure if I ever went on any fishing expeditions quite like that, but I'd been fishing once or twice, and fishing trips are the romanticized ideal father-son bonding experiences. It's also nice to see friendly (as opposed to angsty) rivalry between parent and child. One of the few up-beat stories that I actually felt up-beat about. Benny the Snake posted:My First Beer I don't think I have many fresh thoughts after the detailed version, except to reiterate that this was a big step up from what I was expecting from you. And probably did the best at making me start happy/stay happy of the stories I read that week. There was a decent amount that I could relate to, and it was nice fantasizing about simpler times.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 00:42 |
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Sitting Here posted:Cash-Bro Brawl If Cab loses, can he get a still bigger version of the avatar? This is my thanksgiving and bday wish.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 01:01 |
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Wraith For Me Words: 789 Nadia looked up at the floating clock that marked time in decades. She’d been in limbo for 790 years. She held nine months worth of paperwork between her hands and chin, making sure nothing escaped due to a malevolent gust of wind. That mistake happened in her 350th year. She did everything right; dotted every ‘i’, filled in every bubble without drawing outside of the line and every bloody thumb print was perfect. She diligently spent extra time working on making this submission pristine. She would finally be able to leave. “Next!” said the only clerk serving a line of a million damned souls. She stepped forward and carefully set her forms in the incoming basket, the header facing the clerk. She learned that lesson her first time through. The impish clerk leaned forward and touched the pile. He paused, deep in thought. He then shook his head. His fingers snapped and her application went up in a flash of fire. “No,” he said, his voice haughty. “The ink quality is poor.” Nadia’s face went hot as the realization set in. The clerk continued. “Bad batch; these things happen,” he said. He regarded her with beady eyes. “Please take a seat and fill out another one. You’ll receive the most current edition this time. Next!” The imp’s words warbled in Nadia’s head. Her face twitched. Enough! She lunged forward, snatched the imp by the lapels and slammed him into his desk, his head cracking against the twisted oak. He struggled to free himself, but Nadia pressed her forearm to his neck. She spoke slowly, enunciating every syllable; bending her quivering lips to her will. “Take me to your boss before I eat your disgusting face.” The clerk stammered nervously. He never imagined retribution was possible. “You cannot be allowed-” She sunk her teeth into his face and he yelped. She screamed and bit down, the taste of iron bursting into her mouth. He cried out and clawed uselessly at her head. With a snarl, Nadia heaved the clerk into the watching crowd. A moment later somebody yelled, “Get him!” and the mob converged on him like piranha. Nadia spat out the bitter imp flesh and wiped her mouth. She climbed over the desk and entered through the door in the back. Inside was a giant mirror. The glass was the purest black Nadia has ever seen. No reflection. She stepped forward and touched it. The surface rippled and icy tendrils slid up her arm. She gasped. It pulled her in and consumed her, leaving her floating in the void. *** Nadia didn’t know for how long she walked. A guttural voice full of phlegm called out from the darkness. She spun, facing a hoofed demon twice her size. “A human,” he mused. Fire spilled out of his mouth and hissed when it hit the ground. His eyes were hidden beneath the black shroud of his hood. “You wander without purpose.” Every word felt like spiders crawling under Nadia’s skin. She gritted her teeth. “Fetch me someone relevant.” The demon lurched forward. Nadia flinched, but stood her ground. “A vengeful spirit,” he gurgled. “Master will like you.” He jabbed her in the chest with a gnarled finger. The world shifted and Nadia fell until she stopped without impact; her nose barely touching the ebony floor. She saw her reflection. Her skin was a marble white with deep lines entrenched into her face, ravaged by time. Her eyes were empty sockets with a small ember of fire flickering deep within. “It’s like you fell off the ugly tree, hitting all the branches.” Nadia stood. Black Satan sat on a throne of platinum teeth with a gimp as a footstool. His leathery skin shimmered in the torchlight. “I want my freedom,” she snarled. “Oh ho!” he exclaimed. He leaned forward, resting an elbow on his knee. “You had a… violent end. Tough being a gypsy in Salem.” Nadia tensed. A bonfire emerged from her memory. “Gypsies have a talent for persuasion,” he said, the corner of his mouth twitching into a wicked smile. “Lend me that talent, and you’re free.” She paused. “What’s the price?” she asked warily. Black Satan laughed. “One hundred innocent souls in one year.” “If I fail?” His smile widened, revealing gilded teeth. “Can you dig it?” *** Nadia stood next to a large mirror and watched the young girl transform into her ideal body. Her skin cleared up and her facial features shifted. She filled into her dress in all the right ways. It was everything she wanted. “How do I look?” she asked, coyly. Nadia rolled up the signed contract and tucked it into her suit. She flashed a smile. “I can dig it.”
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 01:02 |
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Mercedes posted:You people and your early submissions. You don't get extra points because you submit before Sunday night. Probably could have used a few days to edit your stories. Mere hours later: Mercedes posted:Wraith For Me The Dome is sacred ground and blatant, unrepentant hypocrisy has no place in it. I'm calling you to the floor, Merc. Brawl time, son.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 01:29 |
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Your Sledgehammer posted:Mere hours later: If Merc is up for this I will judge.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 01:53 |
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Crit for Morning Bell edit: Story removed. Ok, so. This was a nice, breezy story. You don't really have any glaring issues with grammar or syntax. On the nitpicky side, you overuse hyphens and colons a bit. A lot of the words you are linking together don't need a hyphen. As a general rule, if the words follow a noun, they don't need to be hyphenated, unless the compound phrase is particularly unusual or universally established. There are some exceptions of course, and in some cases it's totally up to personal preference, but I'd recommend avoiding them when they aren't necessary just because any extraneous punctuation risks interrupting the flow of your lines. A few examples from your story off the top of my head: half-open half-hour ever-expanding Like I said, certainly not a huge deal, just something to consider when editing. As for the story itself, the only real fault with it is that it's kind of well-trodden territory. You've got nice pacing, some good details and imagery, and everything unfolds logically, but it doesn't do a whole lot to separate itself from any number of other "caught in the act" type of stories. The ending is endearing enough to buy some good faith, but I was kind of hoping for something more unexpected to happen, if that makes sense. You've got a readable style, so I think you just need to focus on doing something more unique with it. If you'd like me to elaborate on anything or if you have any specific questions, feel free to let me know! Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Nov 19, 2014 |
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sebmojo posted:If Merc is up for this I will judge. gently caress no. You see, I had a good reason for submitting early. Mercedes fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Nov 14, 2014 |
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Crit for blue squaresblue squares posted:Mr. Electroworth's Shovel Summer Earth / 1,200 words You've got an interesting piece here that is full of some solid characterization and good prose. The two biggest points that hurt it story-wise are the secondary characters in the story, the protag's friends and Gregory. They could definitely use some fleshing out, which would have been hard to do while staying within the word count at the same time. I'd say just eliminate the protag's friends. You are using them as a proxy for the protag's own beliefs, and it doesn't really work. The friends don't stand on their own, and you are obscuring what the main character believes. You don't spend enough time telling me about his actual beliefs, or giving me some reason why the main character has them. It feels sort of tacked on, which in turn has a negative impact on the ending. Mr. Electroworth comes close to saving the ending. I was genuinely surprised when he woke up and I love his reaction. Gregory, though, comes out of nowhere. I see what you are getting at (Gregory is some sort of executive assistant or something, yes?) but I have to do too much thinking to get there and his appearance/firing is jarring and has no real impact other than to make way for the protagonist, which ends up feeling sort of forced itself, for a couple of reasons. For one, I don't have any real sense why the main character used to have pro-environment beliefs, as I said above (although you make it abundantly clear why he abandons them). Secondly, I really would have liked a moment where he reflects on his past beliefs before making the full 180. By having him immediately be on board with the promotion, you rob the ending of potential drama. You've got something really interesting here (Mr. Electroworth in particular is spot-on), and it was enjoyable and easy to read, but it needs a little polishing. Your Sledgehammer fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Nov 14, 2014 |
# ? Nov 14, 2014 02:23 |
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Mercedes posted:I wanted to show CC some love. I love YOU
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 02:30 |
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Crit for Anathema Device. Anathema Device posted:Power Dynamics This piece has a strong voice that maybe feels a touch overwrought when describing mundane details. It also makes for some really nice imagery, though, so I can't really knock it too hard. The biggest issue here is simply clarity: I don't have any context for what is happening until the story is almost over. There's tension between the two characters, but the situation your narrator is in feels resigned, so the tension doesn't really go anywhere. Then you've got this sort of druidic magic going on with herbs and runes in blood. It seems like there was a war and the narrator was on the losing side, and now they're basically a servant in this chapel with an Abbess that wants her to give over / teach her the magic? It's an interesting backdrop, but it doesn't really have room to breathe in such a short piece. It's kind a fantasy vignette, I guess. Nice language, compelling imagery, but it's like looking at a pretty picture through tinted glass.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 02:32 |
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I'm fine with a delay but I'm not going to drop it. Name your start date, Merc. I also think you should be rewarded a nice, shiny new avatar when I beat you, of mine and the judge's choosing, as a price for the delay. sebmojo, you still down to judge it?
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 02:41 |
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It's like there's an end-of-year reckoning taking over the dome.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 02:46 |
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Look at this motherfucker wanting a piece of the champ. Impatient little bird poo poo. sebmojo drop that phat prompt down. I'm going rub this scrub's nose in his failure. Let's loving do this. Mercedes fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Nov 14, 2014 |
# ? Nov 14, 2014 02:52 |
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That's probably the most justified brawl callout I've seen e: i mean if being whiney and dumb is a justification
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 02:53 |
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MercHammerBrawlMercedes posted:Look at this motherfucker wanting a piece of the champ. Impatient little bird poo poo. sebmojo drop that phat prompt down. I'm going rub this scrub's nose in his failure. Awright, let's keep it clean, no punching below the belt, don't bite off any ears if you can help it, 600 words about being on a boat with the most enraging motherfucker you can imagine; what happens to change your mind? Due high noon PST, Saturday 29 November. no extensions, sebmojo fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Nov 14, 2014 |
# ? Nov 14, 2014 03:08 |
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Your Sledgehammer posted:Crit for blue squares Dude, thank you. Really awesome comments. You made me proud and gave me things I need to think about (like throwing in sudden details that I understand but a fresh reader might).
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 04:09 |
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Thank you SledgeHammer for pointing out what the "old guard" of thunderdome gets away with the same bullshit they do themselves. Perhaps one day good men like you and I will be in charge and we'll hold ourselves to the same standard that we expect of new "non members".
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 04:39 |
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I'm new here. Not part of any kind of insider's club. I also have more DMs than you, Cache Cab. Even with all of that, I still think pointing fingers and making allegations against an "old guard" is silly. Here we have an experienced group of writers who just want to offer us crit. There is no good evidence of them conspiring against anyone. As far as I've seen, there also isn't some kind of power structure in place that keeps newbies down. Take for example our recent anonymous submission week. That's an awfully hard way to single out seasoned TD writers for special treatment, isn't it?
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 04:51 |
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I won with my third or so TD entry. I have gotten a shitton of DM's since then, and far less HM's. Most of my pieces have been middle of the road. But I've gotten great feedback for every piece (with the exception of that rabbit story where I misread the rules ) Write better and you'll do better. Simple!
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 05:00 |
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You spreading some poo poo like this is a garden Quidnose. Why should I get better when I can just kill the leaders? The revolution will not be posted.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 05:16 |
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Yeah, I've copped a couple of DMs but only for weak stories, and the nearest I got to an HM was probably the best thing I've posted in the thread. I think the judging is pretty fair and the crits are more than worth the price of admission. One thing that helps me, Cache Cab, is to read the week's winning entry. I try to make it a point to do that every time. If you read some of the stories that won/lost/HMed/DMed, it makes it easier to see where you're going wrong in your own writing. I mostly wanted to brawl Merc because it sounded fun and I find his humor and Mercisms to be pretty hit or miss
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 05:17 |
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Cache Cab posted:Thank you SledgeHammer for pointing out what the "old guard" of thunderdome gets away with the same bullshit they do themselves. Perhaps one day good men like you and I will be in charge and we'll hold ourselves to the same standard that we expect of new "non members". This isn't even about Old Guard shenanigans. I was just trying to be nice and point out that your story desperately needed polish and you should have probably sat on it. I posted my story cause I don't have time to work on it later. You challenged me to find a mistake in your story and I did, in your first, paragraph-length, run-on sentence.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 05:18 |
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Much like in the U.S., upward mobility in Thunderdome is guaranteed for anyone who works hard enough! Cache Cab lets be real you're just looking for handouts from the nanny-judge-state. This is a meritocracy, best find your bootstraps, son.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 05:21 |
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Nobody posted actual mistakes, those are just style differences. Read a book.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 05:21 |
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Well, I mean, clearly you don't need our help here, since you've got this writing thing down already.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 05:23 |
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Cache Cab knows how to play the crowd to get the wins, judges' pants will be filled with sexy juices as they can't wait to hand him down victory. Alternatively, Cab won't win and will talk about how the victories are meaningless anyways because the judges are biased.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 05:23 |
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Which book should I start with?
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 05:24 |
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All of them. All of the books.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 05:24 |
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Have you tried reading Cache Cab's work? It captures the goon spirit.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 05:25 |
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ok im bored of this derail *takes a deep breath, reaches up to the sky and rips the lightning from the clouds* I DO DECLARE BY THE POWER VESTED IN ME BY MY SCARY RED AVATAR THAT A FLASH GEIS IS SET UPON CACHE CAB He is apostate. None may speak to him until he has redeemed himself in one-on-one combat, to take place one week hence. Cache Cab, you can keep posting in the thread for our amusement, but if you want to keep arguing, maybe take it to FA.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 05:25 |
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Also stop posting micro-crits of his story before I've passed down judgment. With my other judges. Whoever they end up being.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 05:43 |
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Sitting Here posted:ok im bored of this derail this is the type of persecution bullshit that I'm talking about. I've posted way less than some of the other people in this fight and I tried to handle it appropriately by brawling my dissenters, but still I'm the only one who is punished. you won't even have to wait for my toxx, I'm done with this poo poo. I just wanted to be a better writer for my own personal self-esteem reasonse. I had a really lovely day at work and I really can't deal with this right now on top of everything.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 05:54 |
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Ahaha, he just autobanned. Look rear end in a top hat: Mag7 improved. Benny improved. Even Baudolino improved. There is no bottom floor that enough practice and and real criticism can't lift you up from. But those guys kinda went "yeah I suck, how do I fix it" while you scream "IT'S MY STYLE OKAY LEAVE ME ALONE". Good luck finding your more supportive group. May you be bad at this forever.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 06:04 |
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this is why you don't preface your stories
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 06:10 |
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NEW RULE: No one else is allowed to autoban during my week. Y'all are harshing my buzz.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 06:15 |
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# ? Jan 25, 2025 07:02 |
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QUICK EVERYBODY DOGPILE SOMEBODY NEW WHICH NAMES DON'T I RECOGNISE THIS WEEK ... ... ... CTHONIC BELL I BET YOU HAVE A BUTT THAT SMELLS LIKE POOP. EVERYBODY loving GET HIM.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 06:17 |