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Communist Zombie
Nov 1, 2011

Fossilized Rappy posted:

Mutant Defector (Trans-Genetic Mutant only background): [...] Mutant Defectors also get mutant-sized combat fatigues, which makes them the only

You forgot to finish that sentence Rappy. Im gonna guess theyre the only ones that get armour/clothes?

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Fossilized Rappy
Dec 26, 2012

Communist Zombie posted:

You forgot to finish that sentence Rappy. Im gonna guess theyre the only ones that get armour/clothes?
poo poo, yeah. They're the only background that gets free gear. I thought I'd finished that sentence before I posted.

Rohan Kishibe
Oct 29, 2011

Frankly, I don't like you
and I never have.

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Remember all those the times the hero of a story was enraged that his younger child brother desperately wanted to cling to a world where he was not only not a cripple but an active and respected part of 'normal' society for the first time in his life, and constantly demanded his child brother face the facts that he'd always be a gimp shunned by society?

Then he did the same to a girl his age who I don't remember if she was like abused or whatever but she clearly had something going on to make her feel life wasn't living as it was and while that's not an awesome place to be literal escape into a real alternate world that you're eager and willing to be a part of isn't the same as just reading fantasy books all your life and never doing anything or whatever.

All those heroic stories.

The red headed girl was an albino and had to dye her hair in the real world or something lame. The kid who became prince got his "mother" back and people actually liked him, Cid became an awesome badass rather than a sclubish loser, Marche got to be in charge of a clan of cool warriors, his brother got a normal life and an entire world full of living, intelligent beings was brought into existence.

Nope, gotta go home and if we're lucky my little brother will live to see 25 and Ci will be able to stave off suicide long enough to scrape together enough money to feed his family.

Mr. Maltose
Feb 16, 2011

The Guffless Girlverine
Literally every person except for Marche's brother had really petty reasons for being in mythical fantasy land and moving beyond escapism to face reality is a common narrative in that sort of fiction. The problem being his brother, unlike everyone else, can't grow out of being wheelchair bound.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Prison Warden posted:

Why are Furries always such crazy right-wing nutjobs? I mean, I want to say it's because of the brain damage but I haven't done the research to back that up.

I think it's just that the ones that are crazy right-wing nutjobs are the most vocal because they have to prove to all the other conservatives that even though they're furries they're still super conservative and stuff.

That or some kind of gross misunderstanding of what being a social predator means.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 17, 2013



Well you can't really grow out of having a dead mom. You can deal with it and all but Marche did still murder Newt's new mother and Cid's new wife. She was pretending to be the old mom but she was an independent living being as well. You also in the process free five imprisoned beings that all bear heavy reassembles to lucavi from the original Tactics or Ex-death. These were the literal demons who caused several wars to revive their leader.

That Old Tree
Jun 23, 2012

nah


Evil Mastermind posted:

God it drives me nuts when people make RPGs based on a video game property, and spend more effort in converting every video game mechanic into rules instead of focusing on silly things like "tone".

What's really striking to me is how they seem to be willing to make significant departures or speculations in a few places, but then most of the stuff is "traits are literally just Fallout's perks, but in d20." Like squeezing the time line down to just 30 years. What did that do for them other than make this cartoon apocalypse scenario even more ridiculous, plus introducing some setting contradictions? And they have the "war" line just right loving there in the intro! They were clearly willing to skirt very close to infringement, so it's kind of perplexing that they changed some of the things they did.

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

The knockoff Vault Boy cartoons are killing me.

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer

Prison Warden posted:

Why are Furries always such crazy right-wing nutjobs? I mean, I want to say it's because of the brain damage but I haven't done the research to back that up.

Some of them are crazy left-wing or centrist nutjobs too. We just tend to notice the right-wing ones because they look weird against the furpiles, and when they get crazy enough we end up with Malatora and related bullshit.

Fossilized Rappy posted:

[*]Sex Appeal: You have a +2 to Charisma-based skill checks with the opposite sex, but -2 of the same with the same sex. What's that? "Ho-mo-sexuals?" What are those?

Don't ask. They might make wacky claims about it having been bred out or eliminated in a smugly homophobic manner.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Malatora was right wing? I thought it was just its own brand of insane furry militarism.

LornMarkus
Nov 8, 2011

fool_of_sound posted:

That game was weird in that the plotline that felt like the central story and had the most plot-relevant missions (the foreign syndicate, I don't recall the name) wasn't the main plotline, which just sort of meandered around for most of the game.

On the other hand, I was still rather amused they acknowledged the point of the first game right at the beginning by having Luso's initial goal focused on getting back home only for him to be told that having an adventure that satisfied the magic book was how he would get home.

Also excellent moments like with the Moogle Power Rangers showed up, did their schtick, and his first reaction was to turn to his guildmates and say, "so, shall we kill them?" Oh, and that loving Blue Mage in the tournament. Dammit, now I have to find my copy so I can play it again.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Luso is great because his basic reaction is 'this is awesome and I love every second of it!'

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Plague of Hats posted:

What's really striking to me is how they seem to be willing to make significant departures or speculations in a few places, but then most of the stuff is "traits are literally just Fallout's perks, but in d20." Like squeezing the time line down to just 30 years. What did that do for them other than make this cartoon apocalypse scenario even more ridiculous, plus introducing some setting contradictions? And they have the "war" line just right loving there in the intro! They were clearly willing to skirt very close to infringement, so it's kind of perplexing that they changed some of the things they did.

I'm more put off by the sudden, unnecessary Islamist uprising, it's giving me Cthulhutech vibes. As for the other stuff, I have the feeling Bethesda didn't give too much of a poo poo what was actually in Exodus, as long as it wasn't using the Fallout brand itself.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Mors Rattus posted:

Malatora was right wing? I thought it was just its own brand of insane furry militarism.

If I remember it correctly they used the transitive property on "if we live in a post scarcity society we can turn people into dragons" to turn it into "once we have dragons we'll be able to create a post scarcity society". So they decided to start with 'turning people into dragons' And they would do this by creating an offshore micronation that is somehow a massive economic power.

EscortMission
Mar 4, 2009

Come with me
if you want to live.

Prison Warden posted:

The red headed girl was an albino and had to dye her hair in the real world or something lame. The kid who became prince got his "mother" back and people actually liked him, Cid became an awesome badass rather than a sclubish loser, Marche got to be in charge of a clan of cool warriors, his brother got a normal life and an entire world full of living, intelligent beings was brought into existence.

Nope, gotta go home and if we're lucky my little brother will live to see 25 and Ci will be able to stave off suicide long enough to scrape together enough money to feed his family.

Supposedly the Japanese version is really up-front about "wow this book is actually super evil and is trying to eat your friends' life force while it keeps them trapped in its fantasy world" and that comes up about halfway through the game. The American version sort of vaguely hints at it in a side mission near the very end of the game in a wishy-washy "oh maybe this would happen" sort of way.

On the plus side, the vague translation causes more interesting discussions about fantasy versus reality than a tactics games aimed at twelve year olds should really be causing, so that's cool.

(gently caress you Marche you're being a jerk.)

Kellsterik
Mar 30, 2012

Kavak posted:

I'm more put off by the sudden, unnecessary Islamist uprising, it's giving me Cthulhutech vibes.

I think it's a reflection of being written in the mid-2000s, that kind of material strikes me as being heavily informed by the recent memory of 9/11 and wars in the middle east. I was reading through the official "World Gone Mad" setting for the superhero game Wild Talents the other day and it prominently features Mideast conflict and religious extremism as themes, it's really conspicuous in the same sense of the author needing to convey how this current issue important to them relates to the game.

Thinking of Wild Talents, would there be any interest in a writeup of Progenitor? It's an extremely well-written superhero setting book by Greg Stolze in the form of an alternate history from 1968-1999, emphasizing how superpowers drastically change the world and the idea of creating your own worst enemy.

Covok
May 27, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I'm just shocked how insane and anchro-captialist Furry EP's lore is. If you really want transhumanism furries, you'd think you'd just do something simple like "yeah, two factions of mankind got into a big war, they started making genetically-engineered, intelligent, living weapons as a new avenue of war, nuclear option happens, mankind dies out, anthros survived because the factories growing them survived." Boom!, done: your excuse plot is finished without being too insane or crazy. No need to limit your potential audience by taking extreme stances on politics.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Lot of furries tend to be free-love peace and hugs twits, annoying but harmless - but then you get these weird high-libertarian and arch-conservative lunkheads who makes your head hurt from the dissonance.

Vox Valentine
May 30, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Kellsterik posted:

I think it's a reflection of being written in the mid-2000s, that kind of material strikes me as being heavily informed by the recent memory of 9/11 and wars in the middle east. I was reading through the official "World Gone Mad" setting for the superhero game Wild Talents the other day and it prominently features Mideast conflict and religious extremism as themes, it's really conspicuous in the same sense of the author needing to convey how this current issue important to them relates to the game.

Thinking of Wild Talents, would there be any interest in a writeup of Progenitor? It's an extremely well-written superhero setting book by Greg Stolze in the form of an alternate history from 1968-1999, emphasizing how superpowers drastically change the world and the idea of creating your own worst enemy.
The most insane "the world has gone paranoid shitballs over 9/11" RPG I've ever seen has been Normality, and that's if you can understand the loving thing. But by all means, share some of those Wild Talent books if you want.

Tasoth
Dec 12, 2011

Covok posted:

I'm just shocked how insane and anchro-captialist Furry EP's lore is. If you really want transhumanism furries, you'd think you'd just do something simple like "yeah, two factions of mankind got into a big war, they started making genetically-engineered, intelligent, living weapons as a new avenue of war, nuclear option happens, mankind dies out, anthros survived because the factories growing them survived." Boom!, done: your excuse plot is finished without being too insane or crazy. No need to limit your potential audience by taking extreme stances on politics.

Problem is, if you're going to make tank decanted soldiers, why would you give them a cartoony, anthropomorphic animal appearance instead of something vaguely human and designed to inspire fear? Taking on Tompkins 'Ruff' Sechs the dog soldier is going to be less frightening then something in ballistic armor that looks human, just shorter, faster, stronger and is still bearing down on you with multiple gunshot wounds while it picks off your teammates in rapid succession.

Penultimatum
Apr 1, 2010

Tasoth posted:

Problem is, if you're going to make tank decanted soldiers, why would you give them a cartoony, anthropomorphic animal appearance instead of something vaguely human and designed to inspire fear? Taking on Tompkins 'Ruff' Sechs the dog soldier is going to be less frightening then something in ballistic armor that looks human, just shorter, faster, stronger and is still bearing down on you with multiple gunshot wounds while it picks off your teammates in rapid succession.

Maybe the human-animal hybrid super soldiers started out as terrifying monsters but due to decades of radiation exposure and inbreeding ended up really derpy looking. I mean, except for the radiation part that's basically what happened when humans domesticated dogs.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Kurieg posted:

If I remember it correctly they used the transitive property on "if we live in a post scarcity society we can turn people into dragons" to turn it into "once we have dragons we'll be able to create a post scarcity society". So they decided to start with 'turning people into dragons' And they would do this by creating an offshore micronation that is somehow a massive economic power.

I've spent all this time on lead into gold and it turns out it was people into dragons all along?

Covok
May 27, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Tasoth posted:

Problem is, if you're going to make tank decanted soldiers, why would you give them a cartoony, anthropomorphic animal appearance instead of something vaguely human and designed to inspire fear? Taking on Tompkins 'Ruff' Sechs the dog soldier is going to be less frightening then something in ballistic armor that looks human, just shorter, faster, stronger and is still bearing down on you with multiple gunshot wounds while it picks off your teammates in rapid succession.

Just say that it's just the art style. Like, it looks that way due to artist interpretation of the artist.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Kellsterik posted:

Thinking of Wild Talents, would there be any interest in a writeup of Progenitor? It's an extremely well-written superhero setting book by Greg Stolze in the form of an alternate history from 1968-1999, emphasizing how superpowers drastically change the world and the idea of creating your own worst enemy.

A really well-written setting by Greg Stolze you say, nah, nobody around here would be interested in reading about that.

Mitama
Feb 28, 2011

Kellsterik posted:

Thinking of Wild Talents, would there be any interest in a writeup of Progenitor? It's an extremely well-written superhero setting book by Greg Stolze in the form of an alternate history from 1968-1999, emphasizing how superpowers drastically change the world and the idea of creating your own worst enemy.

Please do it. I would love to be able to point at something and say "yeah, this is why Progenitor owns".

Doresh
Jan 7, 2015
Well, at least they keep their 9/11 influence as a historical footnote. Could be worse, like exploding mutants.

Evil Mastermind posted:

God it drives me nuts when people make RPGs based on a video game property, and spend more effort in converting every video game mechanic into rules instead of focusing on silly things like "tone".

Man, I would love me some Doom d20 with a Telefragger prestige class.

Thous this Totally-Not-Fallout RPG is a bit too excessive. They crossed the point where it would've probably been better to just rip-off the game's RPG mechanics as well and replace the percentile resolution system with a d20.

Mr. Maltose posted:

It was perfectly serviceable except for Marche's unending desire to recripple his younger brother.

How dare his brother live a normal life without his approval :argh: !

Covok posted:

I'm just shocked how insane and anchro-captialist Furry EP's lore is. If you really want transhumanism furries, you'd think you'd just do something simple like "yeah, two factions of mankind got into a big war, they started making genetically-engineered, intelligent, living weapons as a new avenue of war, nuclear option happens, mankind dies out, anthros survived because the factories growing them survived." Boom!, done: your excuse plot is finished without being too insane or crazy. No need to limit your potential audience by taking extreme stances on politics.

Not really sure either why some writers seem to fill their RPGs with insane ideological garbage. Guess they really want to stand out.

Doresh fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Jan 11, 2015

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer
Probably the same reason why it likes to sneak into some people's novels. If you're particularly amateurish and short anyone to proof or edit, it's easy to extrapolate interpolate masturbulate from your own poorly formed opinions and fantasies because no one is questioning how you got Y from X.

Crasical
Apr 22, 2014

GG!*
*GET GOOD
The Chi Descendants are pretty much the Shi from Fallout 2, if anyone failed to catch that particular reference.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Shi

I want to a see Super Trans-Genetic Mutant with the Big and Dumb and Ham Fisted traits. :colbert:

Doresh
Jan 7, 2015
A ham-fisted Idiot Savant mutant could also be fun. Does that one even have a flaw if you never plan to have more than 6 INT in the first place?

Bieeardo posted:

Probably the same reason why it likes to sneak into some people's novels. If you're particularly amateurish and short anyone to proof or edit, it's easy to extrapolate interpolate masturbulate from your own poorly formed opinions and fantasies because no one is questioning how you got Y from X.

That would make sense. And RPGs have the added advantage of now being largely ignored by mainstream media (after that D&D scare, of course). Did stuff like RaHoWa even cause a blip on the radar outside the RPG circles?

Doresh fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Jan 11, 2015

LatwPIAT
Jun 6, 2011

Doresh posted:

Not really sure either why some writers seem to fill their RPGs with insane ideological garbage. Guess they really want to stand out.

Bieeardo posted:

Probably the same reason why it likes to sneak into some people's novels. If you're particularly amateurish and short anyone to proof or edit, it's easy to extrapolate interpolate masturbulate from your own poorly formed opinions and fantasies because no one is questioning how you got Y from X.

To be fair, any piece of writing involving something political or historical will necessarily present a political bias in one way or another. If I were to write a moderate-position RPG where the anarchist communes all failed, and the libertarian tax-havens all sank and turned into Somalia, I'd be taking the political position that anarchism and libertarianism are bogus. Which, if you're a libertarian or anarchist, would be a position in extreme opposition. On the more moderate, when we talk of ideological garbage with a political bent, I could crack open the GURPS Basic Set and find the rule that says that torture actually works, and works better if you're brutal about it - and, if someone will lend me their copy, I can in turn crack open Delta Green: Targets of Opportunity and point to the rule that says that torture tends to produce false confessions. Eclipse Phase' superhappyfuntime collectivist anarchism, and HSD's utopian libertarianism just fall outside the norm. Instead of saying they have a "conservative bent" or a "liberal approach", we say they're filled with "ideological garbage", ignoring that the moderate position, too, is just ideological.

That said, I have never seen a libertarian utopia in fiction that wasn't full of plot holes, obvious oversights, and every problem brushed over with "that just doesn't happen". In fact, I haven't seen a libertarian utopia period. :V

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

Hc Svnt Dracones
Cyborg Cat-tains of Industry. In space.



And we're getting right into the meat of it with the part that'll make you laugh at their insistence that this totally isn't a fetish RPG, guys. Honest. HONEST!

quote:

The destruction of Earth cemented the need for the Vector race to prosper more than ever before, and shortly after the war ended, the third generation project began with the intent to bolster the breeding pool and correct some of the errors of the previous generation. Dubbed “the Omega generation” by its progenitors, this was to be the last of the artificial creation projects for the Vector race.

...

allowing species that were normally genetically incompatible to breed and give birth to offspring that shared a species with one of the parents, but the necessary genetic variety of both.

After all, it'd be a drat shame if there were some characters that couldn't knock each other up! An outright loving travesty, that.

Also, since it's an Eclipse Phase ripoff, it needs some obligatory horror elements. Now, where Eclipse Phase relied on the potential annihilation of humanity at the hands(or pseudopods, possibly) of a rampant, techno-organic virus with powers that broke the laws of physics itself, HSD one-ups them by going for something way more scary. Something way more sinister. Something way more... fowl. Sorry, I meant foul. No, wait, I meant fowl because their SCARY THING is owls. loving owls. Apparently when trying to make owldudes, they hosed something up and the only one that grew to maturity loving murdered everyone in sight, scrawled something sinister on the wall and then snuck away. And of course that meant everyone gave up on making owl guys ever again.


Slender-owl

quote:

In the next few years, Mars’ terraforming operation would complete, transplanting the majority of Earth wildlife, with some variation, to Mars’ new climate. The deep canyons ran with fresh water and the largest mountains in the solar system sported snow and the finest views in recorded history.

...

First Generation Vectors were now 23 years old, with 30 of the original 108 females known to be pregnant, and the entire first generation population recorded as sexually active.

The need to point out that all the first mutants are loving isn't really what I'm concerned with here, it's just another lovely "this is a fetish RPG"-detail. I just want to hammer home again, the point that makes me want to flip a table. Somehow these loving people terraformed Mars in less than three decades, if the first Vectors aren't any older than that. But, anyway, after hammering the final nail in how lovely that is, the whole thing just... leaps forward 150 years to talk about what Earth is like 150 years after getting nuked out. Apparently Earth's water is drinkable again, 150 years after a worldwide nuclear war(is that even plausible? And why is it relevant? And how would anyone loving find out from Mars?), and to complete the Eclipse Phase knockoffery(though I doubt it's the last we'll see of it), of course photography(from Mars, I guess? Since no one's ever mentioned a Lunar colony or anything else closer to Earth) shows that there are mooooonsteeeers on Earth. Totally nothing like TITAN monstrosities, I bet.

Hahahah, actually, I'm right, it's worse than that.

So they decide to send the last humans first to Earth's moon, to make a colony there, then the humans, literally all of them, apparently, decide to travel to Earth, on and off, to do some in-person investigations. It says there are 300 of them, but that they're also literally all killed in their sleep. So I guess either the horrors on Earth can leap to the Moon or all 300 of them decided to take a camping trip, without any security precautions or guards despite knowing that huge, mutated monstrosities were roaming Earth's wastelands. But then again, I guess it could also have been because what defeated them was worse than a monster. Worse than a TITAN exsurgent. Worse than a Chris Field RPG. It was... a meme!

quote:

Manned expeditions stopped for the immediate future as financial needs steered MarsCo toward other avenues of production and development, but the cameras continued to broadcast for 30 years after the deaths of their caretakers, before each one was systematically destroyed by an unknown life form resembling a tall, thin biped. It had the intelligence to remain out of the camera’s view until it was forced to approach the last one from the front due to its sheltered location. Naught but a shadow, with limbs too long and a skin too smooth, and a glimpse of a face with no eyes in it. The video reached viral status through Luna and Mars, but no further signs of the creature emerged within anyone’s lifespan.

The last humans were killed by loving Slenderman. Jesus Christ,

Anyway, we're suddenly jumping ahead again. I think 200 years or so? And now Earth is totally safe again. All radiation, gone, all ecological damage, reversed, but I guess the place is still full of monsters. Slendermans and godzillas and whatever else. So anyway, being idiots, the furries decide to send more dudes down to Earth to try and scavenge, and of course after some more tacticool chatter about how they're taking precautions, they get murdered by Slenderman, too, after, of course, finding scribbled, mysterious "scripture" all over the stuff they were planning to scavenge. Again, I'd like to point out, we're getting no detail on some 200-ish years of technology, development and society, but we're instead being told about Slenderman killing furries on Earth. I'd also like to point out that one of the huge things promised in the intro was how the furries had abandoned all traces of old human society, yet the few descriptions we're getting sound basically identical to human behavior and society.

And of course the untelligible "scripture" corresponding to no known language was the exact same as what their hosed up owlthing wrote a couple hundred years earlier. Why they expect it to be text, and not just graffiti or modern art, I don't know.

We got more horrors in store for you, though, now I give you... FIAT CURRENCY!

quote:

Currency had been a point of some fluctuation and concern ever since Earth’s fall, but a more or less stable form of measure simply referred to as “credits” had been adopted and maintained for the better part of a century. Basing a currency on nothing wasn’t a new idea, but it was always a dangerous one. By now, rampant inflation and a lack of a stabilizing force was making the Credit dangerously unstable. Add to that the proliferation of micro transactions throughout the system that attached miniscule fees to everything from walking in front of buildings to opening doors, and Vector society was looking at financial ruin in short order.

They still seem to not be catching on that a corporate-run world is usually described as a dystopia for a reason. There seems to be just enough self-awareness, at times, to accept that corporations might do awful things, but they never actually seem to wake up. Also this next bit, I'm... I'm pretty sure it's retarded, because there's no way it isn't, but I'd love it if someone could pick apart just how terribly retarded it is, because I don't even know where to start.

quote:

The solution was a deceptively simple program developed by a 17 year old ferret on a bet, and subsequently cycled through the web until it appeared under the nose of MarsCo execs, who hailed it as the monetary equivalent to a miracle. It took the form of a stand-alone system of micro-investments that bought and sold in tiny amounts, constantly. A miniature stock broker that could plot long-term growth goals in a much smaller scale, making them profitable in the short term. By linking this system to the micro-transaction section of one’s bank account, it could offset the constant drain caused by everyday living. Issuing one of these programs to every Vector at birth ensured it had a lifetime to grow, making its comparatively small profit margin substantially larger, while at the same time fueling exchange. The constant and consistent exchange lent stability to the value of the Credit, which was in turn linked to the number of people using the system. In effect, the program turned the population of the Sol system into a physical base for the value of currency, one that would (barring an extinction event) continue to grow at a steady, predictable rate. The program was dubbed “the Ledger,” and became the closest post-humanity Sol had ever come to social security. Everyone got one, and it stayed and grew with them throughout their life.

So there's that, but it's starting to get hard NOT to quote everything, because EVERYTHING is loving retarded, and getting dumber.

quote:

Mars reached a population of three billion in 400 years of colonization. Luna colony maintained a population of roughly 35,000 people, and produced personal space flight vehicles capable of travelling between Mars and Luna in less than a month’s time.

I'm going to crack the numbers here and I don't think they're gonna make me happy.

Humans: All dead and gone.
First generation Vectors: 180 individuals.
Second generation Vectors: ~3000 individuals.
Earth-Mars Refugees: ?????
Third generation Vectors: 10000 individuals.

The book clearly has informed us that a few thousand individuals is not enough to continue a species, because a few thousand humans survived the war and they died out(unless the humans just plain chose not to breed and elected to die out as penance for their sins), hence the first generation, second generation, and refugee generations of Vectors have all died out or almost so(remember, only the third generation can actually interbreed despite being different types of animals). This means we've got 10000(even if we assume the third generation can gently caress everyone and knock them up, even outside their own generation, that's, what, twenty-thousand, max? Fifty-thousand if we're super generous with refugees?) individuals who have somehow managed to gently caress their way up to three billion individuals in 400 years. And a society which, on a relatively virgin planet, has managed to boom its loving infrastructure and agriculture absurdly enough to sustain them all. Captains of industry, totally believable science.

While I find another table to flip, because the first one's already gone through the wall, the terraforming of Venus into a habitable, Earth-like world is just sort of a footnote that happens without any real problems aside from space hippies complaining that maybe there are native Venusian lifeforms that are dying because the furries are cleaning out all the acid clouds they need to survive in. Oh no. There's also a footnote about a potentially interesting era where all ship-to-ship combat is with nautical boarding actions, due to ineffective weapons and heavy armor plating, but that's just swept away as "this interesting stuff is in the past, we're in a more generic space-world, now, where you've got all the stuff from your favourite space sim game. Pew pew, lasers. Also space cops."

So there's also an expedition intended to scope out Europa for settling, but, gasp, the scouts, before disappearing completely in the depths of Europa, find MYSTERIOUS STRUCTURES. They find signs of life once existing there and... THEY FIND THE MYSTERIOUS "SCRIPTURE" AGAIN. And their last transmitted message is "Hydra." Because Hydra couldn't just have been a goddamn computer virus that went haywire, it had to be a loving ripoff of Eclipse Phase's alien virus that made the TITANs flip their poo poo. Congratulations, furries, you couldn't even be original about that.

Despite this, of course, and despite their probes still roaming the depths of Europa's oceans, now haywire, aggressive and mutated to vast, threatening sizes(did I forget to mention? They were BIO PROBES, modelled on orcas. Because there's nothing ethically shady about manufacturing relatively intelligent creatures as servants), the idiots decide to colonize Europa anyway.


The depths of Europa. Spooky

Lacking capacity for pattern recognition, the furries decide to go back to Earth. This time with mechs, and lasers! And of course they're too loving stupid to think to quarantine the people returning from a hostile, by now rather alien, world, that has claimed all search parties so far. And wow, gee, oh gasp, some of the returning crewmembers are infected with nano-sized things that cause them to mutate, and which appear to break the laws of physics! Ooooo. Aaaaa. Wooow. A novelty the like of which we have never seen before. But anyway, the nanoviruses explode out of people, harvest people for more resources, and are crystalline things that look totally like a recolour of Slenderman with a tail.


OC Donutsteel

But anyway, because the furries are idiots and incompetents, everyone on the Moon, and a lot of people on Mars, die. And then all of Earth and the Moon start turning into red crystal and grow together into one big red crystal tumor. This just sort of happens and then nothing more really gets said about it. It's just a thing, okay, something exists that can infect literal planetary bodies. That doesn't seem to shake society or anything, or cause everyone to make nukes and just bombard the loving thing until it drops into the sun. Nope, let's just cut the lore chapter here with a summary of things as they are!

So how are things? Well, governments are megacorps, which are enlightened enough to only have small mercenary wars, no great wars of conquest, and they never make WMD's, and also they allow all sorts of small, private competitors to pop up, because a truly enlightened business never attempts to become a monolithic monopoly. That would be ridiculous. Everyone's a furry now, except for the ones who are robots. Wait, what, robots? When did they mention robots? They didn't.

quote:

Substantial populations of robotic Cogs shore up the overall sentient contributors to everyday life and have lived alongside Vectors for centuries, in varying gradients of peaceful coexistence.

Because it's not like sentient loving machines might merit major mention or have any sort of noteworthy impact on society! Better talk more about furries fighting loving SPACE SLENDERMAN, wait, sorry, "Whispers" or "Pale Men." Better use the appropriate terminology.

quote:

The invention of transcendent technology has opened up amazing and terrifying new avenues of advancement, and keyed in a critical piece of the ancient and frightening puzzle that is the final days of human kind. Some who have received transcendent implants go insane upon tapping them, and exhibit behavior not unlike the Owl catastrophe centuries ago.

W-wait, what? What is "transcendent technology"? This is somehow connected to the metaplot but no one ever really bothered to mention it or explain what it is? Hello? Is the editor there? Or did he loving kill himself after reading two pages and just leave the rest unedited? Christ. gently caress it, I'm done with the Lore, so that means I can take a break, you guys can look at this lovely art, and I'll be back with more miserable poo poo when I want to hate life again.

Covok
May 27, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Considering how bad the setting is, I eagerly await hearing how equally lovely the system is for this game.

SpiritOfLenin
Apr 29, 2013

be happy :3


The gently caress is that blue thing in the last picture?

It just looks like a blue woman with slightly snoutish face. Also derpy eyes.

El Spamo
Aug 21, 2003

Fuss and misery
Nah, I'm hoping it's got a kickass system with tight mechanics and supremely balanced gameplay. Just to twist that knife.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Crazy libertarian furry man posted:

The solution was a deceptively simple program developed by a 17 year old ferret on a bet, and subsequently cycled through the web until it appeared under the nose of MarsCo execs, who hailed it as the monetary equivalent to a miracle. It took the form of a stand-alone system of micro-investments that bought and sold in tiny amounts, constantly. A miniature stock broker that could plot long-term growth goals in a much smaller scale, making them profitable in the short term. By linking this system to the micro-transaction section of one’s bank account, it could offset the constant drain caused by everyday living. Issuing one of these programs to every Vector at birth ensured it had a lifetime to grow, making its comparatively small profit margin substantially larger, while at the same time fueling exchange. The constant and consistent exchange lent stability to the value of the Credit, which was in turn linked to the number of people using the system. In effect, the program turned the population of the Sol system into a physical base for the value of currency, one that would (barring an extinction event) continue to grow at a steady, predictable rate. The program was dubbed “the Ledger,” and became the closest post-humanity Sol had ever come to social security. Everyone got one, and it stayed and grew with them throughout their life.

It's like the guy that keeps posting idiotic "attention-based" economic theories in D&D had a baby with a sovereign citizen.

Covok
May 27, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
A video version of Purple's last 3 posts sans emotion.

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Hc Svnt Dracones really reads like Creepypasta: the RPG.

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

Why isn't that blue lady wearing proper PPE? She could contract Space Ebola!

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

What no-one mentions, of course, is that from a human perspective the corporations were a loving disaster, considering they're all dead from war/nukes/smug bitcoiners/slenderman. Which also means all the 'very clever very wealthy men in tall towers smiling slyly' were dead within 20-30 years of their bullshit.

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Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

PurpleXVI posted:

The solution was a deceptively simple program developed by a 17 year old ferret on a bet, and subsequently cycled through the web until it appeared under the nose of MarsCo execs, who hailed it as the monetary equivalent to a miracle. It took the form of a stand-alone system of micro-investments that bought and sold in tiny amounts, constantly. A miniature stock broker that could plot long-term growth goals in a much smaller scale, making them profitable in the short term. By linking this system to the micro-transaction section of one’s bank account, it could offset the constant drain caused by everyday living. Issuing one of these programs to every Vector at birth ensured it had a lifetime to grow, making its comparatively small profit margin substantially larger, while at the same time fueling exchange. The constant and consistent exchange lent stability to the value of the Credit, which was in turn linked to the number of people using the system. In effect, the program turned the population of the Sol system into a physical base for the value of currency, one that would (barring an extinction event) continue to grow at a steady, predictable rate. The program was dubbed “the Ledger,” and became the closest post-humanity Sol had ever come to social security. Everyone got one, and it stayed and grew with them throughout their life.

I'm no economist but.... I'm pretty sure this doesn't work.

This is basically saying "We couldn't figure out how to keep inflation from running rampant so we just started making money from nothing and it all sort of fixed itself. Praise Capitalism!"

Also I choked on my pop when I saw Slenderdog, it's so amazingly blatant it's stupid.


I missed your reviews Purple.

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