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LatwPIAT posted:I slightly curious as to why it seems that nobody who wrote about fictional future computers seemed to have heard of, or considered, just applying Moore's Law. Was is just that unknown back then? It's especially glaring in stuff that came out after Shadowrun, which was smart enough to throw up its hands and just say "We're using completely made up units that have no relation to real world computer stats. It's all MEGAPULSES." And IIRC by 2E was going "Yeah, okay, storage as opposed to active memory is basically unlimited at this point."
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LatwPIAT posted:I slightly curious as to why it seems that nobody who wrote about fictional future computers seemed to have heard of, or considered, just applying Moore's Law. Was is just that unknown back then? Moore's law is from the mid-60s so they definitely had it. RPGs just have this awesome rich history of putting in computers that are underwhelming practically by the date of publishing. Personally, I think it should be a tradition now and RPG writers should be putting in DVD-RWs that hold TWICE as much as today's or USB connectors that, get this, can be stuck in upside down just fine(!) forever.
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I think it's pretty safe to say that the Torg developers didn't really "get" computers. I mean, look at Torg cyberdecks; you can't just "run" your software, you have to manually load a program from your (limited) space to the processor before you could use it. And this is with a world that has a higher tech level than ours in 2015, even though we now have whole OSes that fit on thumb drives, or 32+GB storage the size of your fingernail. theironjef posted:USB connectors that, get this, can be stuck in upside down just fine(!) Well, that'd just be flat-out magic.
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Genius: The Transgression Part 2: The Cosmos You will notice I'm not posting any art or graphics. That's because there is none. The Genius online book is 488 pages of nothing but text and charts. Genius posted:A genius is a mortal man or woman gifted with extraordinary insight and technical brilliance. A genius is also I actually kinda like this premise for Geniuses: Inspiration is what makes them what they are, but it's dangerous, alien, and potentially horrifying. We then get some elaboration on the danger Inspiration poses to geniuses, that it's the force driving them away from humanity into the realm of mad science. It's the mundane parts of human existence that keep geniuses grounded for the most part, maintaining ties to mundane human existence rather than deciding they're above it all. It's appropriate for the mad scientist mythos, though there isn't a whole lot of crunch to back it up - Genius pretty much expects you to slide into insanity. Genius posted:The Breakthrough The Breakthrough is what turns a mortal into a genius. It's that moment where a sane scientist starts to go mad, obsessed with peculiar and brilliant ideas that often make sense to the genius but no one else. Of course, in Transgression's case you're going insane on two levels, with the latter being that the source of your sudden brilliance really is an outside force, and it's not really compatible with the human mind. Also, it's a recurring theme that mortals simply can't understand the mad super-science of the Inspired. Their stuff simply doesn't work by the rules of the normal world and shouldn't work at all. It's the power of Mania and Inspiration that makes these impossible wonders work - that tesla gun, that super-suit, that cybernetic rig... so yeah it's magic for all intents and purposes but dressed up as science. At this point in the mortal's descent into Inspiration, most go one of three ways: joining the Peerage (the organization of relatively sane good-guy mad scientists the PCs are assumed to be a part of), joining Lemuria (the organization of relatively insane bad-guy mad scientists the PCs are assumed to be enemies of), or becoming Illuminated. The Illuminated are what happens when something goes deeply wrong or a Genius' morality stat hits 0: the alien force of Inspiration completely consumes the human mind and what emerges is an alien force of intellect and creativity in a human suit. We'll get some more detail on the Illuminated later on, but for now the Illuminated are noted to be very explicitly no longer human in any real sense of the word, and there is no cure of any kind for Illumination. Most end up killed by the Peerage or Lemuria because of the danger they pose to everyone. On to demographics and the question of who tends to become Inspired. Genius posted:According to Genius: A Complete Psychological Breakdown, published by Ayako Von Schreber and Bob "Doc" Inspiration isn't always random - it can be cultivated in someone, though not reliably. It does take a certain mindset to become Inspired, mainly a mindset capable of thinking and planning, seeing a problem and working out a solution or being struck with some vast question. We're told now that about 60% of all Inspired come to it naturally, just regular people who suddenly start to see impossible answers to their questions and theories. The rest were deliberately guided as Beholden (read: ghouls) and either deliberately cultivated by geniuses to become Inspired themselves or were intended to be mere lab assistants and servants who suddenly became much more. Don't really want to play a mad scientist? Worry not! Genius posted:About 12% of geniuses become Inspired though they possess no particular scientific or technical background, There's a lot of room and suggestion in Genius that if you want to you can play the game as superheroes who build their own super-gadgets, and here's your out. Bruce Wayne and Viktor Frieze can both be reasonably approximated as Inspired. Next we're told that about one in three Inspired actually has a PhD, but that most are hobbyists. Genius does have a curious blind spot about professionals whose work gives them the opportunity to become Inspired but aren't interested in becoming doctors or professors themselves. Despite all this ground to play a Genius who isn't a mad scientist, the fluff assumes that you're just that. Genius posted:There are a lot of Inspired, a fact that startled the Peerage when it was first discovered. Estimates are as high Uh... I'm pretty sure this many mad scientists would be noticed, though we're also told that 30-50% of all Inspired don't know what they are. Which seems weird given that there's an alien power burning in their skulls and Inspired are pretty good about recognizing mad science in action. I can only assume that most Inspired don't actually bother with becoming mad scientists and instead post really weird conspiracy theories and fanfic on the internet. More demographics come up, telling us that despite the promise that Inspiration can happen to anyone mad science is actually pretty expensive and so Inspired tend to be highly educated and wealthy, with the exceptions being notable and peculiar. Genius posted:Obligation Obligation is the morality stat of Genius, and while it's flavorful and appropriate I don't see why Inspired have to abandon traditional morality. The best analogy I can think of for Obligation is looking at superheroes, actually. Bruce Wayne and Tony Stark would be good examples of high obligation Inspired - they're volatile, egotistical, more than just a little removed from ordinary humanity, and definitely a bit crazy, but they view their powers as an obligation to protect mundane people from dangers they can't fight. Mister Freeze and any of the bad guys from the Iron Man movies would be examples of low obligation Inspired. Genius posted:Too much Maniacal activity, too fast, can result in the genius cracking as Inspiration overrides parts of her All Inspired are insane. Period. But some become special types of insane, altered by Inspiration. Unmada/Maniacs are the most common type: Inspiration has warped their senses and minds to the point that not only do they wholeheartedly believe that they are absolutely correct about what to anyone else is patent insanity, they can start warping reality around them to reflect their particular world view. This latter ability is part of what makes Unmada dangerous: if you run into one who's convinced that electricity doesn't work, there's a good chance that anything around them that runs on electricity will simply stop working. Part of the reason Lemuria are the bad guy mad scientists is because they're comprised exclusively of Unmada, though it's noted that a fair few Peers and independent Inspired are like this as well. Genius posted:The Consensus This is one of the beefs I have with Genius, to be honest. We're told, abstractly, that not only do mortals cause problems when they start handling stuff fueled by Inspiration (which there are rules for), Inspired mess up conventional work... somehow, despite Inspired being assumed to be holding down a regular job. Also, geniuses are explicitly not lonely - that is the entire point of the Peerage in fluff, providing a friendly network of mad scientists to keep you grounded, sane, and funded. There are plenty of real life scientists who hold all manner of bizarre beliefs and crazy ideas, but they still get good work done. In fact, the very next segment is about Collaboratives and the Peerage and how they exist precisely to provide cooperation, trust, and fellow people who don't think you're any more insane than they are. Genius posted:No One Is In Charge This? I genuinely like this part of the setting. Part of Genius' attempt at horror is the idea that for most of human history civilization was guided in secret by hidden masters that offered stability. A ruthless, tyrannical stability, but someone was in charge of humanity and had a plan. Not any more, though. The Inspired secret societies have no large-scale political power and the aggressive manes (we'll get to those later, in short they're theories literally spawned by their own disproof) like the Martians, Ophidians, and Moon Nazis literally can't exist or impact human civilization in any meaningful way. The godlike beings at the end of time have been wiped out, and the remaining time police are overworked and corrupt. It's down to just humanity now. This post is getting rather long, so I'm calling it short. Next time: More of the Cosmos
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Genius is sounding way too good so far, when does it crash and burn?
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# ? Apr 7, 2015 17:26 |
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Genius isn't really a trainwreck game from what I remember, you just get this creeping sense of disappointment reading it as you realize that it isn't anywhere near as good as it could be. Although I think the specific line that sums up everything Genius does wrong does from this chapter: quote:A genius is not a scientist; a genius is a wonder-worker whose miracles are technological in nature.
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theironjef posted:Moore's law is from the mid-60s so they definitely had it. RPGs just have this awesome rich history of putting in computers that are underwhelming practically by the date of publishing. Personally, I think it should be a tradition now and RPG writers should be putting in DVD-RWs that hold TWICE as much as today's or USB connectors that, get this, can be stuck in upside down just fine(!) forever. I suspect that more than a few cyberpunk authors take solace in the fact that William Gibson knew gently caress-all about technology and basically cribbed terms that he had overheard or gleaned from friends. Missing the point that unless you can write prose like Gibson, maybe you want to do a bit more research and grounding for your mirrorshades future.
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Cythereal posted:Also, it's a recurring theme that mortals simply can't understand the mad super-science of the Inspired. Their stuff simply doesn't work by the rules of the normal world and shouldn't work at all. It's the power of Mania and Inspiration that makes these impossible wonders work - that tesla gun, that super-suit, that cybernetic rig... so yeah it's magic for all intents and purposes but dressed up as science.
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Zereth posted:Does it still work if the 'Genius' hands it to a non-wizard and leaves? No, that triggers Havoc. You want to keep mortals as far away from Inspiration as possible. Mortals who get access to Wonders will quite reasonably point out all the ways it simply cannot work according to the laws of science, which in turn tends to make the Wonder explode or fall apart.
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So you could do a Find and Replace from Genius to Ork and it'd still work, right?
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# ? Apr 7, 2015 17:52 |
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I think 500 pages of solid text is a great enough sin on its own.
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theironjef posted:So you could do a Find and Replace from Genius to Ork and it'd still work, right? Ork: the WAAAARGHening
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One caveat: if a mortal gets access to a Wonder and doesn't wreck it through Havoc, you've either got yourself a Beholden or a new Genius in the making.
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Cythereal posted:No, that triggers Havoc. You want to keep mortals as far away from Inspiration as possible. Mortals who get access to Wonders will quite reasonably point out all the ways it simply cannot work according to the laws of science, which in turn tends to make the Wonder explode or fall apart. It's stupider then that, because literally touching a wonder causes
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Cythereal posted:No, that triggers Havoc. You want to keep mortals as far away from Inspiration as possible. Mortals who get access to Wonders will quite reasonably point out all the ways it simply cannot work according to the laws of science, which in turn tends to make the Wonder explode or fall apart.
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Zereth posted:So it's not science. Even a little. No, it very explicitly is not. You have to take a special attribute to make a Wonder look normal-ish, otherwise it's immediately obvious that this thing absolutely shouldn't work and is patently insane. The fact that Inspired are for all intents and purposes mages leads to a funny bit near the end of the book talking about how Inspired typically interact with other supernaturals and the book has to dance very carefully around the fact that it's almost impossible to tell the difference between a genius and a mage.
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If it was obvious that it shouldn't work and was patently insane, but just sat there doing its thing no matter what onlookers thought of it the "Geniuses" would actually have a claim to be mad scientists. They're just weirder more hosed up wizards! Tulul posted:It's stupider then that, because literally touching a wonder causes
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# ? Apr 7, 2015 18:11 |
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Sounds like they would've been better off doing a techno-mage thing, like an Order or big Legacy that focuses on artifact creation.
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Zereth posted:So it's not science. Even a little. There's a reason I called it SCIENCE! the rpg. It's the kind of pulpy super-science that comes out of comic books with a casual disdain for any kind of "real" scientific method or form of research. It was made by people who got mad at the new world of darkness for not supporting that kind of play in the new version of Mage. Conversely, actual scientists make very dangerous mages. Knowing how to get the most out of your chemical reactions, knowing what elements react with what other elements and in what ways, using a little bit of magic to tweak the stochiometry and you can bring down buildings without paradox so much as rearing it's ugly head.
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# ? Apr 7, 2015 18:16 |
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If they have no relation to normal science, how did they guide human technological advancement and hand down free goodies?
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wdarkk posted:If they have no relation to normal science, how did they guide human technological advancement and hand down free goodies? They didn't. Lemuria was playing an entirely different kind of scientific game. Eugenics was one of their main stocks in trade.
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theironjef posted:
You're doing some good work right here.
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Green Intern posted:You're doing some good work right here. Thanks! I am just realizing that I forgot to include rules for what happens with a total failure roll, but I'll add those to Duckman: Second Edition.
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Cythereal posted:They didn't. Lemuria was playing an entirely different kind of scientific game. Eugenics was one of their main stocks in trade. Ah, I was thinking they were just "evil version of the protagonists" and not a broader thing.
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Cythereal posted:No, it very explicitly is not. You have to take a special attribute to make a Wonder look normal-ish, otherwise it's immediately obvious that this thing absolutely shouldn't work and is patently insane. I'm vaguely recalling reading or hearing about raiding a mad scientist's lab where the floor was this branching, sprawling tangled web of daisy-chained power strips plugged into other power strips. When the characters eventually combed through the mess it slowly wound its way back to the epicenter of the power network, which was a single power strip plugged into itself. When they unplugged it, everything else in the building shut off. It seems like whatever special attribute this is, it's just the art of having mysterious black box casings for your Wonders instead of proudly displaying that your evil island's power grid plugs into an irradiated cantaloupe.
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# ? Apr 7, 2015 19:09 |
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The Gordian power strip! I remember submitting one of those to Warehouse 23, back in the day. That and the architecture for a tolkien ring network.
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One of the biggest problems with Genius is the numbers - that many people with magic powers would utterly warp society. There's no way it could be kept secret, and nWoD is pretty good about having the monsters not warp the world to that extent. Another is tone. The game can't decide what tone it wants - serious and tragic, pulpy, comedic, whatever. It vacillates wildly between all three, doing all of them poorly. And lastly, it is far, far, far too self-referential. Every game mechanic must be understood in character with the same names used by the players.
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Genius: the Transgression Part 3: The Cosmos continued As a corollary to the fact that no one's in charge anymore, we're given another insistent beat of the game: mad science is expensive, and doesn't pay the bills. Given that all Inspired are insane, many of them have trouble holding down regular jobs, much less keeping the kind of money or access to exotic materials that mad science often requires. This is one of the draws of Lemuria: the organization is shattered, its leadership annihilated, its grand plan for the human race at an end, but the infrastructure backing up Lemuria's agenda of world domination is still there and is always willing to do business... for a price. Genius posted:The Monorail of Broken Dreams You might be detecting echoes of old Changeling. Inspiration is waxing in the modern world, accelerating with the breakneck pace of technological and social change in the modern world. Bardos and manes are name dropped again, visions of reality proven scientifically false but maintain a flickering existence by the desperate belief and Mania that they are still out there. And they're growing in number every year. quote:Genius in History and Legend Like any World of Darkness game line, Genius claims that Inspiration has existed as long as human history, starting in India and the Middle East before the rise of Lemuria with the Romans. Most of Inspiration's ancient history is vague myth and legend, obscured by Lemurian historical revision and the impact of time travel (which is both possible for Inspired and not all that difficult). Lemuria's historical stronghold was in China, leaving the free-willed geniuses who would become the Peerage to the primitive technological backwater of Europe. This status quo changed with the Renaissance, and from the 15th century onwards Lemuria slowly withered and collapsed. Genius is fairly restrained about claiming historical figures as Inspired, accurately pointing out that one of the main characteristics of a good scientist is an ability to communicate effectively with others and very few Inspired fit that description. The book claims Leonardo da Vinci, Robert Hooke, and of course Nikola Tesla as Inspired, but notes that cases for anyone else you'd care to name are very circumstantial. The Manhattan Project is specifically named as having zero Inspired involvement - both the Peerage and Lemuria watched the program closely, fearing what Mania interference could do. The early 20th century was Lemuria's last roll of the dice for control of the human race in the form of the World Wars, which were intended to grind humanity back into the stone age. Lemuria failed, bringing us to the modern world where no one's in charge, breakneck technological development brings with it an acceleration of Inspired growth, and the internet has brought Inspired of all stripes together like never before. Genius posted:Fundamentals Axioms are the principles and disciplines by which Wonders are built, and we're now given a brief overview of the Foundations. Artificers practice mad engineering. They're builders, tinkerers, robot-makers, and sometimes computer hackers. Artificers are in this for the sheer love of making stuff. Directors practice mad psychology. They're interested in the science of power - not just politicians, though they are the political leaders of the Peerage, but information scientists and more. Navigators practice mad physics. They're Void Engineers from oMage, and they live to do stuff with mad science, frequently with a militaristic air. Progenitors practice mad biology. They're weird even by Inspired standards, going whole hog on transhumanism and self-transformation. Scholastics practice mad philosophy. They're the oldest and most traditional mad scientists and scholars, but the new generation style themselves trickster gods. PCs are assumed to belong to the Peerage, and therefore to one of the Foundations. Like any group of scientists, though, every Foundation is riven with internal divisions and controversies, so there's no groupthink here. We're also given name-drops of the Baramins of Lemuria, but I'll add a bit more detail. They're divided based on where and how they think human civilization went wrong. Atomists are technocrats who believe that technology can fix anything and everything, and would have if not for that pesky human element. Etherites believe in some Grand Unified Theory that completely explains all science, usually one long discredited like the Luminiferous Ether. Mechanists believe in a possibly literal clockwork universe where everything boils down to predictable scientific equations and concepts like free will don't actually exist. Oracles hate the modern concept of science in general and want to take humanity back to a time of mysticism and magic. Phenomenologists are chaos theory types who believe everything is fundamentally chaotic and trying to impose order or morality on it is futile. Genius posted:The Nature of Inspiration There is no canon explanation for what Inspiration is or how it works. Instead we're told how each Foundation tends to view it. Genius posted:To the Artificers, Inspired who delight foremost in the creation of new wonders, the universe in which we live Lemuria, on the other hand, prefers to invoke the Many Worlds model and claims that what the Inspired do is see through the infinite possibilities and can wield influence over all things unlike mortals, who are restricted to their one singular world and interpretation of what is possible. It's important for Inspired, the game notes, to form some sort of model of how it all works if they are to remain sane. The mind, even the minds of the Inspired, needs a [more or less] rational framework through which to think about and understand the world even if you know you're crazy. Those who believe that they're the sane ones and everyone else is crazy quickly become Unmada, and those who simply don't care about the reasons or logic, however twisted, of what they do are a skip and a hop away from Illumination. This is the critical difference between the Peerage and Lemuria. Lemuria believes they're all sane - they're Unmada to the last. The Peerage knows they're insane and tries to keep its members grounded in that fundamental fact. The Peerage, therefore, maintains a set of informal laws of mad science. Genius posted:The Law of Broken Theory (aka Popper's Little Secret) In short, that you are insane and are no longer playing by the same rules as the rest of humanity. What you do is not science, and you are no longer a rational human thinker. Genius posted:The Science Is Science Law (aka the Anticlark Corollary) Even so, what you do is internally consistent with your personal model of the universe. Your personal conception of science is probably unique to you, but it is still science in your mind and not magic (unless it's magic as a science with predictable laws). Genius posted:The Mere Mortal Law (aka Gilligan's Rule) Mortals do not play by the same rules that you do, and when they intersect it never ends well. Mortals cannot do what you do or use your mad science. Genius posted:The Obvious Truth Law (aka Mulder's Lament) There is no Hysteria protecting you. If your wristwatch fires blaster bolts at a man who's turned himself into a spider-creature in the middle of Times Square, everyone is going to see it. The problem is that while they will be able to see it, they will never be able to duplicate it unless they become Inspired themselves. Genius posted:Catalyzing Every genius has a Catalyst, an emotional drive that fueled their Breakthrough and descent into madness. This emotion is what fundamentally ties the genius to humanity and propels their use of Inspiration. A genius' Catalyst does not and cannot change, and may or may not reflect the kind of person they were before their Breakthrough. Either way, it defines how they achieved that shattering moment of revelation and is a measurable psychological phenomenon common to all Inspired. Among their effects is that each Catalyst gives the Inspired a natural channel to one of the Axioms, and an innate disposition towards a particular Derangement. There are five Catalysts altogether: rage, hope, sorrow, rejection, and curiosity. In a collaborative, each Catalyst brings a different kind of personality or drive to the table, and geniuses who Catalyzed the same way are not guaranteed to get along. Next time: Grimm, the Catalyst of Fury
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Mors Rattus posted:One of the biggest problems with Genius is the numbers - that many people with magic powers would utterly warp society. There's no way it could be kept secret, and nWoD is pretty good about having the monsters not warp the world to that extent. nWoD games try to avoid giving normie-to-monster ratios for exactly that reason- they gave a 50,000:1 ratio with vampires that completely breaks down at a couple points. The structure for the Ordo Dracul given in one book would require an urban area the size of Shanghai or Tokyo. The only number they give now is "However many you need". That ties into the tone issues. NWoD kept the "secret masters" poo poo to a minimum for a reason- "street-level" was the term I always heard. Genius has a bunch of different ideas colliding in it and the Ascension parts brought the metaplot and setting in with it.
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Bieeardo posted:The Gordian power strip! I remember submitting one of those to Warehouse 23, back in the day. Evil Mastermind posted:I actually played Immortal: Invisible War. In Immortal you play characters who are immortal, and they have magic voice powers, and they can shapeshift into an alternate form, and they have to drain life-force from mortals, and they have a bunch of past lives constantly whining for attention, and they can't use their powers openly without bad guys detecting them, and their attributes literally manifest as coloured auras, and if they get weakened too much they get sucked into another dimension... Sometimes it seems like Ran Ackels must have stuffed all these things into the Immortal mythos because he wanted to be able to explore each one of them exclusively, and imitate each of his 20 favourite fantasy movies. Did your GM get around this by just ignoring large swaths of the rules? That's the only way I can think of to make it playable.
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I do like, with all the comparisons to Mage, that Genius takes the reverse tack even if it doesn't do much with it: Mage is the progression to an actual higher truth, and mortal minds may one day see what you see and do what you do. Genius states directly that you are not finding a better or new way of looking at the real world, you're permanently askew from how things should and actually do work so deal with it. Pity about ever other thing about it being trash.
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Mr. Maltose posted:I do like, with all the comparisons to Mage, that Genius takes the reverse tack even if it doesn't do much with it: Mage is the progression to an actual higher truth, and mortal minds may one day see what you see and do what you do. Genius states directly that you are not finding a better or new way of looking at the real world, you're permanently askew from how things should and actually do work so deal with it. I've mentioned that time travel isn't very hard for Inspired to do, and there's a section later on that talks about it and includes a timeline of how things will go until the end of time. If you use the presented timeline, within a thousand years or so all of humanity will be Inspired and there will no longer be such a thing as mundane people. I have no idea why you would use the presented timeline, though.
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Why would you even include that? 'Oh by the way here's the metaplot accounting fora ll time travel ever.'
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The timeline is obviously included in the Trash section.
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Mors Rattus posted:Why would you even include that? 'Oh by the way here's the metaplot accounting fora ll time travel ever.' Mainly for the Cthulu knockoffs that live at the End of Time and their cultists in the present era as antagonists.
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Ah, of course. Because we can't just import one boring uncreative idea.
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The basic idea in Genius feels like it could be salvaged for a hell of a tragedy: The idea of being useless, the horror of being the universal Ideas Guy because the comics' editor will never let Reed Richards cure cancer, as an effective sort of hopelessness. A game about having immense power that is completely useless (because it can never be shared with others or used to actually change much) in a group of secret societies who in no way actually manage to influence the world would be interesting as a storytelling device. You're a comic book Genius and it means nothing. Overcoming your condition and working like a sane person is your only hope to change the world. Keep the idea that they desperately see how the world 'ought' to be and force them to reconcile giving up their power to work with others to try to change the world, to sacrifice the dream of the Great Man who discovers everything, and you'd have an interesting campaign about intellectual coming of age that you can only run once.
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You'd also have to deal with the fact that most people who play Genius just want to play Girl Genius: Modern.
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The storm has a name... - Let's Read TORG Part 12a: Nippon Tech - Mission Statement An executive works desperately in his office at 3 AM, seeking to recoup the ¥50,000,000 loss he is responsible for due to a deal gone wrong. He knows that if he fails to do so by the end of the day, he will be required to kill himself. He also knows that if he runs, he will be hunted down and killed by order of the board of directors. A gun dealer sells stolen high-tech rifles to a group of Yakuza enforcers. Little does anyone know that one of the enforcers is actually a plant from corporate security, and his allies are closing in on the meet. Little does the plant know that he's also on the kill list. A homeless man, unable to afford even the basic air mask now needed in Tokyo's terrible environment, volunteers for a drug testing program. Within a month, his body and mind will be so mutated by the chemicals in his system that he's nothing but a monster. The researchers will simply dump him back on the street when done with him. A ninja slides into a 30th story window to assassinate an executive who framed his own brother for embezzlement to claim the brother's position. The brother eagerly awaits word of the executive's death, already preparing to reclaim his former wealth and position. A office worker dies at his desk after his twenty-second 12-hour shift in a row. Before his body has finished cooling in the morgue, his assets are packed up and sold off by the corporation, and his replacement is already beginning work at the same desk. Just business as usual in Nippon Tech, as ordained by its High Lord and CEO, Ryuchi Kanawa. Nippon Tech (Now, before we go any further, spend some time looking at this web site, particularly "overworked to suicide" and "internet cafe refugees", and watch this video. That's depressingly similar to what Nippon Tech is like.) With the massive destruction in North America and multiple invading realities in Europe, the world economy is in chaos as the largest economic forces are tied up in the battle for reality. Thankfully, Japan has managed to improve its financial standing on the world stage, taking up the financial slack and keeping the global economy moving. Japanese corporations have begun directly aiding other countries, expanding and building locations that provide much-needed money and employment for the ravaged countries of Core Earth. Foremost of these is the Kanawa Corporation, which has recently become a major player on the world stage under the guidance of its CEO, Ryuchi Kanawa. What nobody knows is that Japan has also been invaded by an alien reality known as "Marketplace", and by relying on Japan, the world is playing right into the hands of its High Lord, the head of the Kanawa Corporation, the ruthless 3327. (And yes, his name is actually 3327. In his home cosm of Marketplace, names were long ago replaced with identification numbers. The numbers are four-digit numbers followed by seven decimal places, but people are referred to by their first four digits. This was decided long ago so that these "names" could be used as universal access codes for everything from online shopping to to banking, and put the people further under the control of the corporations.) 3327 managed to keep the invasion of Japan secret by having advance agents found the Kanawa Corporation with the wealth of other worlds, building a massive empty skyscaper to serve as "corporate headquarters", and dropping the bridge inside the husk of the building. He specifically chose Japan as the initial invasion point because it most closely resembled his home cosm, making subtle expansion easier. In fact, it would be almost three years before the world would learn that Japan had been invaded in the first place. And as much of a surprise as it was to the world, it was more of a surprise to the transformed inhabitants of the realm. By then, of course, it was far too late to do anything about it. 3327, a.k.a. Ryuchi Kanawa 3327, High Lord of Marketplace 3327 has always been obsessed with profit, to the exclusion of everything else in his life. He has only ever performed one "good" act in his life: saving his mentor 2174 from a knife-wielding attacker. Even then, it wasn't at all selfless. 3327 posted:"I could manipulate 2174, as I might not be able to his successor. It was in my interests at the time to keep him whole." In thanks, 2174 put 3327 on the promotion fast-track. 3327 rose in the ranks of the Ursan Corporation, and repaid his mentor's generosity by passing along false financial reports that caused the older man to make unwise investments. In Marketplace, the price for financial failure is board-mandated suicide, and 3327 maneuvered his mentor so well the old man never knew he was stabbed in the back. quote:The man called 3327 did not start at the soft tone which summoned him to the Ursan Industries boardroom. Indeed, he had been expecting it, and welcomed the message it brought. 3327 rapidly turned the Ursan Corporation into the most powerful economic force in Marketplace, and also managed to seize control of the Triad, the governing force of Marketplace himself. And just as he started becoming restless after taking control of his world, 3327 came across his world's Darkness Device. This artifact, which he later named Daikoku, promised the CEO more worlds to conquer, new wealth to accumulate in return for the possibility energy of these worlds. Unlike other High Lords, 3327 did not work his way across the multiverse with rampaging armies. Instead, he approached every invasion as he would a corporate takeover: domination through financial control rather than strength of arms. There were times his forces were so subtle the invaded world didn't even know they had been taken over until it was far too late. As 3327's empire expanded, he found it harder and harder to control the myriad worlds under his control. This was further complicated by the fact that 3327 refused to give anyone under him any real power in case it would be used against him. Then he hit upon the solution: through a combination of Marketplace's technology and the power of the Darkness Device, 3327 grew five clones of himself and copied his mind into each one. The clones were mentally linked to each other and to the original 3327; any thought or emotion felt by one would be felt by all. Now that he had these surrogates, he could truly run his multiversal empire from multiple places at once. Daikoku, for its part, fully supports this idea because it sees it as a sixfold return on its investment. When approached by the Gaunt Man to help invade Earth, 3327 decided to manage this invasion personally instead of leaving it to his clone or to underlings as he normally did. He sent his agents to Earth on dimthreads to begin taking control of companies in Japan, laying the financial groundwork for the eventual takeover. He created the persona of "Ryuchi Kanawa" and created the Kanawa Corporation to undermine the country of Japan from within. 3327's whole worldview is based around the ideas of profit and loss. He is nearly emotionless, feeling only greed. Despite being a textbook sociopath, 3327 has spent a long time learning how to read and predict people to make up for it. The only thing 3327 fears is bankruptcy; he barely fears death thanks to his clone back-ups, but despite that he knows he can still be executed by his board of directors for failing to turn a profit. Core Earth is his riskiest venture to date, and despite his personal wealth it's still possible for him to cut a loss if things go against him. 3327's to-do list is pretty much what you'd expect for the High Lord of a reality based around profit and gain. 1. Acquire Wealth. Profit rules all in Marketplace, and even as High Lord he has to maintain profits to stay in charge. But because he's a Possibility Raider, he has access to the wealth and treasure of countless realities. As it stands right now, 3327's net worth is in the trillions, but it is still not enough. 2. Become Torg. 3327 seeks material wealth, not ephemeral power, but becoming Torg would make him truly immortal without needed to rely on his Darkness Device, and immorality means an eternity of gaining wealth. 3. Keep the realm a secret. Kanawa's operations on Core Earth are dependent on nobody knowing that Japan has been invaded. The other High Lords know he's there, of course, but don't seem to be interested in leaking the information to the world. 4. Expand the realm. More territory = more stolen possibility energy. 3327 knows that his Darkness Device is as dedicated to profit as he himself is, so he makes sure to keep it happy. 5. Find eternity shards. Daikoku can drain possibility energy from these artifacts, so 3327 seeks them out to feed to the Darkness Device. 6. Recruit new forces. 3327 is always on the lookout for new sources of profit, so he has begun an effort to recruit operatives from other realms. Partially so he can get inside information on the other High Lords, but also because he wants access to the technological assets of the Nile Empire and the Cyberpapacy. 7. Contain the other realms. 3327 has no direct allies. He sees every other High Lord as a threat to be dealt with (even as he sells them weapons). 3327 knows that he controls the least amount of territory out of all the Raiders, and he needs territory to expand into for possibility energy and raw resources. This also means he needs to drive the other realms off existing resources. At the core of everything 3327 does is the drive for profit. It informs every decision he makes, and he sees nothing wrong with selling to every side as long as he makes out on the deal. 3327 has no allies, only customers and tools. 3327 and the other High Lords 3327 sees every other High Lord as a pawn to be used in his own long-term plans, or against each other. He has made no serious alliances with anyone, and in fact actively works against almost every single one of them. 3327 sees Dr. Mobius as one of the biggest threats due to his scientific knowledge and unpredictability. 3327 has been attempting to turn one of Mobius' overgoverners against him, but it's slow going. 3327 has also been funding Israeli forces fighting against Mobius so the Kanawa Corportation can seize control of the oil fields. Baruk Kaah hates 3327 with a fiery passion. Kaah has learned that American freedom fighters are getting their arms from the Kanawa Corporation, and 3327 was instrumental in the destruction of Kaah's western bridge and loss of most of that territory. In fact, 3327 would drop a bridge in California shortly thereafter, further cutting off that land from Kaah. While the techno-demon Thratchen is technically not a High Lord, he is managing Orrorsh in the Gaunt Man's absence. Thratchen has recently learned that the reason the Tharkhold invasion failed because the Russian psychic research project that predicted it was funded by the Kanawa Corporation. The only reason he hasn't acted on this knowledge is because he doesn't have his own Darkness Device to back him up. 3327 was as shocked as anyone when Pope Jean Malraux initiated the Tech Surge, and this had a strong effect on 3327's plans. Before the Surge, 3327 pretty much wrote off the False Papacy as a backwater realm that wasn't a threat. Now, he wants access to the cybertechnology of that realm. He has begun sending in operatives and opening factories in the realm to reverse-engineer the technolgy so he can sell it to the rest of the world. Like the other High Lords, 3327 isn't sure what to make of the situation of Aysle. With the former High Lord Uthorion ousted from the body of Lady Ardinay, he's decided to take a wait-and-see approach until he knows if a new High Lord will arise. Axioms and World Laws The world laws of Marketplace have evolved to compliment and reinforce the way the overall culture has been driven. First up is The Law of Intrigue, which may be a side-effect of 3327's control of the cosm. This law states that deception is easier in Nippon Tech, and betrayal is common. The mechanical effect is that skills like stealth or disguise get significant bonuses, as do attempts to use skills like persuasion when you're lying. A side effect of this Law is that any organization that has at least 100 members will have at least one traitor in its ranks, and larger organizations will have whole cells working to undermine them. Betrayal has become so common it's now baked into the reality itself. Next is The Law of Profit, and it's the reason why the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. This law states that people of means will be able to spend less money on goods and services, while poorer people will have to spend more. I'd be remiss to not let Sir Terry Pratchett sum it up better than I ever could: Men At Arms posted:“The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. This law doesn't mean that prices will change at the register; it means that the available options to buy things varies depends on who's buying, and the rich will have access to places that will charge them relatively less. Because of this, if you start sliding down the socioeconomic ladder it's drat near impossible to claw your way back up. It's not just that the upper class is keeping the lower classes down, it's reality that's keeping them down. The final law is The Law of Vengeance. This law is tied to the Law of Intrigue, and rewards an "eye for an eye" system of justice. The short form is that any character who takes revenge against someone who wronged him will gain six extra possibilities at the end of the act. It does need to be revenge for a significant loss; you can't get revenge for someone shooting you in the leg, but someone shooting you in the leg and leaving you for CorpSec so they can get away is worthy. The only other limitation is that you have to wait at least 48 hours after being wronged. Best served cold, and all that. The axioms of Marketplace and Nippon Tech reflect the decline of "human" culture and the rise of corporate culture, yet are close enough to Core Earth's that the inhabitants of the realm have barely noticed any major change apart from "wow, things are getting pretty bad in this neighborhood". Technology: 24 The technology of Marketplace is just ahead of Core Earth's by maybe a decade. Unfortunately, this is from the point of view of the early 90's so you get a weird mix of stuff that's still not even close to being possible (laser rifles, flying cars) and things that are low-tech by modern standards (supercomputers with 256Mb of RAM). The two technological fields that are having the largest effect on the rest of the world are medical technology and weapon development. Because Nippon Tech corporations aren't bound by those pesky medical ethics or worldwide regulatory programs, human testing is pretty much "anything goes". This has led to some more advanced technologies like better replacement organs and functional prosthetic (not cybernetic) limbs, it also means that human testing often involves hiring homeless or lower-class people, pumping them full of drugs, and seeing what happens. Weapons technology has become a booming industry, what with the battle for Core Earth and all. Because everything in Nippon Tech is dedicated to profit, Nippon Tech companies are more than happy to sell to anyone. They'll sell guns to NATO forces in preparation for an attack on a Nile Empire outpost, then turn right around and sell guns to the Nile Empire. As a result, the other High Lords aren't too happy with 3327 because he's arming the "good guys" as much as he's arming the other High Lords. (It's important to point out that because 3327 understand reality mechanics, he maintains companies and manufacturers who build weapons for lower-tech realities using the methods of those realities. Yes, if you buy a Nippon Tech rifle it's going to be Tech 24, but you can also buy a Tech 15 matchlock musket to use in Aysle, or a Tech 22 .30 M1 Carbine that works fine in the Nile Empire without causing a contradiction.) One side effect of Kanawa Corporation's operations is that the technology of Core Earth is getting a bit of a boost as Core Earth manufacturers reverse-engineer the higher tech. Social: 22 This is a weird one. While technically a bit higher than Core Earth's social axiom, the fact that the culture is a mix of corporate culture and feudal culture means that things have gotten worse in Japan. The crime and unemployment rates have more than tripled, suicide and drug use rates have skyrocketed, and the class divide is wider now than it's ever been. Being an employee of a megacorporation means that they pretty much own you, and even if you're on the the board of directors you're still considered a completely disposable asset. Magic: 2, Spiritual: 8 Nippon Tech has the second-lowest magic axiom out of all the realities (Living Land it the lowest at 0). The drive for material profit has resulted in a cultural mindset of cold rationality, driving out the concepts of spiritual fulfillment, and magic was never a large part of the culture to begin with. A side-effect of the low magic and spiritual axioms is that, to Core Earthers or people from other realities, everything in the realms feels...off. Part of what most people think of as "normality" is due to the natural levels of magic and community we live with daily. In Nippon Tech, visitors are deprived of those levels. It's like the sudden absence of a sound you've heard so much you don't notice it until it's gone. As a result, everything feels empty. People on the street don't even come close to making eye contact no matter the situation. Every strange event seems larger and more oppressive. Death or suicide due to overwork is incredibly common because there's no sense of fulfillment outside of your job. The combination of all these factors results in a world of almost total oppression. The inhabitants are barely even treated as people by the corporations, the crime lords are running rampant because the cops now only serve corporate interests, and it's impossible for most people to rise above their current financial situations. Now, this is where I'd normally say something about the heroes fighting back and how there's still hope for the common folk and yadda yadda yadda. But that's not the case here. Here, you're barely a person. You're a cog in the machine, a tool to be used by your corporate masters. Once you're used up, you're thrown away and replaced. If you complain, you're out on the street. If you're on the bottom rung of the ladder you're staying there, and even if you're on the top rung one mistake will get you kicked off the ladder. The only possible help can come from outside the realm, but why would anyone help when they don't even know you're in danger? And if you've got a problem with that, there are hundreds of people out there who'll be more than happy to fill your position. I can go down to HR and pull five names at random that can do your job. So keep your head down, shut up, and do your job unless you want to wind up on the street. Now get back to work. NEXT TIME: Economic realities!
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Night10194 posted:The basic idea in Genius feels like it could be salvaged for a hell of a tragedy: The idea of being useless, the horror of being the universal Ideas Guy because the comics' editor will never let Reed Richards cure cancer, as an effective sort of hopelessness. A game about having immense power that is completely useless (because it can never be shared with others or used to actually change much) in a group of secret societies who in no way actually manage to influence the world would be interesting as a storytelling device. Genius ripping Promethean more than Mage would be pretty great, yeah.
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