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Mr. Crow
May 22, 2008

Snap City mayor for life


The trial thing, do you get data? How much? Can't tell online, the closest thing I can see is 50mb and :lol: aint happening if that's what it is.

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Deathlove
Feb 20, 2003



Pillbug

Mr. Crow posted:

The trial thing, do you get data? How much? Can't tell online, the closest thing I can see is 50mb and :lol: aint happening if that's what it is.

When I did it, it was basically no strings attached. I didn't do huge Netflix runs or anything, though.

Selane
May 19, 2006



Brock Landers posted:

Eh. I switched from AT&T to the nerd plan back in March and I'm on the fence about about staying or going back to GoPhone or Cricket. $30 for 5gigs and 100min is just about perfect for me and super cheap. Their LTE service has been speedy too. However, the in building coverage is just not there sometimes. I'll be inside someplace and pull out my phone only to find it searching or on Edge. Also it quickly drops to Edge when you leave suburbia. I'm in the Washington DC suburbs too, which is one of the better served areas. I'm going to stick it out for a while longer just because it is such a good value and I spend most of my time in areas with good LTE. It's just a letdown coming from AT&T's superior network.

Yeah, I'm about to jump ship from T-Mobile because of this. I like their policies and prices and whatnot, but the fact of the matter is I get exactly zero signal at work in the area where I am for most of the day. If I walk halfway across the building I might start to pick something up, but that's it. If I'm at home I'm on wifi anyway, so 90% of the time I need cellular I'm at work, and I'm basically getting nothing right now unless I go outside.

Burden
Jul 25, 2006

yospos


Mr. Crow posted:

The trial thing, do you get data? How much? Can't tell online, the closest thing I can see is 50mb and :lol: aint happening if that's what it is.

You are on an unlimited everything plan so it's unlimited data.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT



Anyone know what the trade in would be for an iPhone 5? I'm planning on making the jump from Verizon back to T-Mobile once my contract is up on 10/8.

Civil
Apr 21, 2003

Do you see this? This means "Have a nice day".

News from the Tmo event today: wifi calling for all Tmo phones from here on out, and free routers.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/10/6132015/t-mobile-rolls-out-wi-fi-calling-for-all-of-its-customers

I didn't know that any android phones didn't have wifi calling, but they will now. And Apple's new phones had wifi calling as one of their line items, so I assume this bridges the gap for those. I guess maybe IOS8 might enable it on the iphone 5S and earlier? We'll see.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

Civil posted:

News from the Tmo event today: wifi calling for all Tmo phones from here on out, and free routers.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/10/6132015/t-mobile-rolls-out-wi-fi-calling-for-all-of-its-customers

I didn't know that any android phones didn't have wifi calling, but they will now. And Apple's new phones had wifi calling as one of their line items, so I assume this bridges the gap for those. I guess maybe IOS8 might enable it on the iphone 5S and earlier? We'll see.

I saw this on MacRumor which was interesting

http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/10/t-mobile-wi-fi-unleashed/

"T-Mobile will also be allowing one time upgrades for customers to get a Wi-Fi enabled phone, even those who are not signed up for the JUMP program. "

Would be curious for more info about that.

So for those of us that want the new iPhone, how does that work with T-Mobile? Is there any benefit of preordering it through a T-Mobile store (I'm guessing I can pay it off at $25/mo), or should I just buy one at an Apple Store? I've never purchased a phone with T-Mobile before, as I brought my iPhone 4 from AT&T with me. I am getting tired of missing out on 4G service... 4 years with this phone is enough.

nickutz
Feb 3, 2004

Put blue and red chicken in mouth plz

5S and 5C have wifi calling for T-Mobile in one of the betas for iOS 8.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003





It's in the GM, so everyone with a 5C or 5S will have it next week.

Skeezy
Jul 3, 2007



So what phones have Wi-Fi calling right now on T-Mobile?

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003





Skeezy posted:

So what phones have Wi-Fi calling right now on T-Mobile?
Pretty much any T-Mobile-branded Android phone, I believe. The G2x I had back in 2011 had it, so it's far from new for those phones. If anything, iPhones were the ones lacking it. (And maybe WP8 phones, but I don't know if T-Mo even has any of those anymore.)

Funky Bunkbed
Jul 26, 2007
You are now.

Astro7x posted:

So for those of us that want the new iPhone, how does that work with T-Mobile? Is there any benefit of preordering it through a T-Mobile store (I'm guessing I can pay it off at $25/mo), or should I just buy one at an Apple Store? I've never purchased a phone with T-Mobile before, as I brought my iPhone 4 from AT&T with me. I am getting tired of missing out on 4G service... 4 years with this phone is enough.

I'm actually really curious about this as well - I plan to preorder on Friday. I assume that I'll need to go through T-Mobile's website to preorder unless I want to pay the full listed cost of the iPhone up front, right?

Civil
Apr 21, 2003

Do you see this? This means "Have a nice day".

Endless Mike posted:

Pretty much any T-Mobile-branded Android phone, I believe. The G2x I had back in 2011 had it, so it's far from new for those phones. If anything, iPhones were the ones lacking it. (And maybe WP8 phones, but I don't know if T-Mo even has any of those anymore.)

They carried the Nokia 521, and it had wifi calling.

I'm wondering if they'll have an app available to those who went with the Moto phones (X, G).

Molten Llama
Sep 20, 2006


Civil posted:

I'm wondering if they'll have an app available to those who went with the Moto phones (X, G).

Legere's response at the event seemed to indicate BYODers were SOL.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

All I know is that when my wife went to get her iPhone 5s from the T-Mobile store, she was surprised that they only had 16GB models in the store. If you wanted anything different, you had to have it shipped to your home first. I'd love to try out the Plus and see if it's too big, but afraid that I'll miss the preorder and it will take me a long as time to get the phone I want.

Civil
Apr 21, 2003

Do you see this? This means "Have a nice day".

Molten Llama posted:

Legere's response at the event seemed to indicate BYODers were SOL.

Too bad, since they have other carrier apps available.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tmobile.pr.mytmobile&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tmobile.vvm.application&hl=en

Island Nation
Jun 20, 2006
Trust No One

Astro7x posted:

I saw this on MacRumor which was interesting

http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/10/t-mobile-wi-fi-unleashed/

"T-Mobile will also be allowing one time upgrades for customers to get a Wi-Fi enabled phone, even those who are not signed up for the JUMP program. "

Would be curious for more info about that.

I would be curious if prepaid (dork plan) customers can jump in on this or if they would support recent phones. Having a replace a 2 month old phone would be annoying though not a dealbreaker.

As for the router, it might be interesting if it's like AT&T's microcell with regards to coverage, GSM is lousy where I live but CDMA is nonexistant so I would be onboard there.

Molten Llama
Sep 20, 2006


Island Nation posted:

As for the router, it might be interesting if it's like AT&T's microcell with regards to coverage, GSM is lousy where I live but CDMA is nonexistant so I would be onboard there.

Despite the "CellSpot" name, it's just a WiFi router manufactured for T-Mobile by Asus. There's nothing cellular involved at all. The only thing really special about it is that it prioritizes T-Mobile voice packets by default, so you can stream all the porn (this was actually John Legere's example) and Netflix you want and still make calls.

T-Mo indicated the router would only be free to Simple Choice customers. But they also said that about the Music Freedom that dork plan users are getting. $99 for prepaid or extra routers. (And they're claiming an equivalent retail router would be ~$200.)

Molten Llama fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Sep 10, 2014

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo


Molten Llama posted:

Legere's response at the event seemed to indicate BYODers were SOL.

The reason for that, as far as I can tell, is that being able to handle the switchoff between a WiFi call and a normal call requires baseband changes (no M8 roms based off of anything but stock offer WiFi calling as a result). It might be possible for T-Mobile to code an app to "listen" for the switch, but I have a feeling that the battery life would suffer majorly as a result.

Funny thing about the Personal CellSpot: I bought the router that they're using (an Asus RT-AC66U) literally two days ago for $150 (hooray for return periods). Even if you don't need the signal boost, I highly recommend getting the router, because it's a great unit and a goddamn steal at $25.

One thing that occurred to me about the international WiFi calling--what's to stop a guy who lives in the USA buying a cheap WiFi calling able phone and sending to their friend who lives out of the country (say, Mexico) for free international calls? Or is that a hidden "feature" of the service?

Civil
Apr 21, 2003

Do you see this? This means "Have a nice day".

Reading the fine print, it looks like the router is a borrow, not own. And if you turn it back in, you don't get your $25 back, but if you leave Tmo or break it, they'll come after you for the cost.

quote:

Personal CellSpot: Wi-Fi Router deposit required. Qualifying wireless service, compatible phone & broadband Internet connection required for Wi-Fi Calling. May require plan change. All data, messaging and other services billed according to your regular rate plan and other pricing. Deposit kept & non-return fee applied if device is not returned; damage fee may apply. This device may access an unsecured Wi-Fi network which could impact your data security. See T-Mobile.com for details and restrictions including important 9-1-1 and security limitations. Property of T-Mobile USA, Inc. Not For Resale.

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?


Fun Shoe

Wifi Calling is part of the GSM spec (GAN) and google just needs to add it to the android kernel already. Now that iOS 8 has it built in, Android is the last mobile OS without it-- WinPho has it, Blackberry has it, Symbian had it, The final generation of Nokia dumbphones had it.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo


/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\Huh, I didn't realize that, but you're right. GAN was established as a standard back in 2004. Step up your game, Google!

The "damage" part gives me pause, as every wireless router I've had has started to exhibit issues, if not straight up die, within a year or two of ownership. Unless it's referring solely to physical damage.

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Sep 10, 2014

Another Poster
Apr 12, 2008


Civil posted:

Reading the fine print, it looks like the router is a borrow, not own. And if you turn it back in, you don't get your $25 back, but if you leave Tmo or break it, they'll come after you for the cost.

You do get your 25$ back after you return the router.

Civil
Apr 21, 2003

Do you see this? This means "Have a nice day".

Another Poster posted:

You do get your 25$ back after you return the router.

Ah, I interpreted the line differently. That's good.

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!


Does wifi calling work internationally? Do I get charged regularly if I go to another country and call my mom over wifi?

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?


Fun Shoe

Dr Tran posted:

Does wifi calling work internationally? Do I get charged regularly if I go to another country and call my mom over wifi?

Yes. When I went to Europe last year, I just rented a mifi and used that to connect my phone to. Calls/texts to the US are local because the IP network doesn't care where you are.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003





It's definitely not baseband level since I'm using wifi calling on a Verizon iPhone 5s with iOS 8 GM on T-Mo.

LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010




Does wifi calling use up minutes? I have an iPhone 5s and the nerd plan, so paying attention to minutes has become a bit of a factor.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003





I believe it does, yes.

nerve
Jan 2, 2011

SKA SUCKS


No it doesn't, that's why it's WiFi calling.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players

nerve posted:

No it doesn't, that's why it's WiFi calling.
Looks like it does.

nerve
Jan 2, 2011

SKA SUCKS



So what is the loving point then? What obviously thing am I missing?

Brock Landers
Jul 28, 2004

You're a donkey. I like that.


But it does say incoming calls are $0? Seems odd.

E: oh that's just international. That page is confusing.

Brock Landers
Jul 28, 2004

You're a donkey. I like that.

Quote is not edit.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008



They push Wifi Calling because they can market it as seamless compensation for lovely coverage. I just leave it off because I get decent coverage at home, and when I actually need it and am on hotel wifi it's complete garbage.

Merv Burger
Jan 3, 2008



nerve posted:

So what is the loving point then? What obviously thing am I missing?

So that you can make calls or send texts when you're inside a building with wifi, you know, a typical scenario where T-Mobile coverage isn't usually the best.

NyetscapeNavigator
Sep 22, 2003



nerve posted:

So what is the loving point then? What obviously thing am I missing?

You get to pay for the privilege of relieving T-mobile of network congestion.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT



Because some of us live in areas where voice coverage is lovely and have unlimited plans anyways.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Good news for people on the nerd plan.

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2014/09/call-me-maybe-introducing-free-voice.html

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Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003





nerve posted:

No it doesn't, that's why it's WiFi calling.
No, it's called WiFi calling because you make calls over WiFi. It's so I can make decent calls from my apartment where I get all of one dot on my iPhone. (I turned it off though, because I'd rather be able to send and receive texts from my Mac and iPad.)

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