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fknlo posted:This is something that has been bugging me for a while now, but can someone clue me in on what the gently caress airline dispatchers do? Sit around and bitch about ATC reroutes  Like anything else, you get a wide variety of skill and/or common sense in dispatchers. You'd be surprised (well, maybe YOU wouldn't be surprised) how many new dispatchers hit the floor with the mindset of "let ATC route them around weather, I'll just cram as much fuel on as an RJ can hold, file direct and then back to the candy crush".
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My wife is a dispatcher for a semi-major carrier. Just About Done said it, but you really have a huge variety of intelligence and giving a gently caress. Some will look at the weather and see where it's predicted to be by the time the flight gets there, and there are some that hardly look at the weather at all. It isn't just their fault though, there are a few pilots that she deals with that truly believe that weather does not move! She'll route them right where the weather is depicted now, but where it won't be in four hours. The pilots call up and demand a route around where the weather is now, which puts them right where it will be in four hours. These are A320 captains not dumbass kids fresh out of college. If you have any specific questions, I'd be happy to pass them along and get answers.
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Aug 13, 2016 00:33
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Dispatchers are at the bottom of the list of people I blame for aircraft overloading sectors during weather. It goes: Ops Managers Supervisors Traffic Management Tower Controllers Captains Dispatchers
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Aug 13, 2016 01:01
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I thought it was kind of funny how serious my professor for flight dispatch was in college. He made it sound like the most serious thing in the world. One gently caress up and you're done in the industry. The FAA is constantly looking for errors, so you better be on your A-game constantly!!!! Mess up that plane's W&B by 2%? SACKED. Fail to take weather into account? SACKED.
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Aug 13, 2016 02:22
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The Ferret King posted:Dispatchers are at the bottom of the list of people I blame for aircraft overloading sectors during weather. This isn't even about overloaded sectors. It's about aircraft flying right at giant fuckoff lines of weather that have been there all loving day. It's even worse when your departure airport is less than 30 minutes flying time from it. Yeah, I'm talking about you UPS 
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Aug 13, 2016 02:44
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Yeah our dispatchers vary from "great" to "you shouldn't be allowed within 5000 feet of a school, computer, or aircraft". One dispatcher who is widely hated filed us through major purple level 9001 tstorms up to 55,000 ft near Tulsa, barely gave us any extra gas, and his explanation when called on it was "well you only have to deviate like, 100 nm and the weather is good in SLC". I just called clearance and told them "so, just to be clear, when we take off we're going to be going north, not west, for like 100 miles." who gave us a new routing (which we still had to deviate on, but it was closer at least.) Others are really good and will actually load you up with gas at least and file something resembling the actual flight plan. (preferable)
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Aug 13, 2016 06:34
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I just realized I might have to fall back on dispatch if I don't make it through on ATC.  Don't worry. I actually try when I do things! I won't route people into storms!
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Aug 13, 2016 06:45
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The Ferret King posted:Dispatchers are at the bottom of the list of people I blame for aircraft overloading sectors during weather. What. Not sure if serious.
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Aug 14, 2016 10:22
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Tommy 2.0 posted:What. Not sure if serious. We have a certain busy tower facility that thinks ground stops/EDCTs are suggestions, more than requirements.
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Aug 14, 2016 12:05
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MrYenko posted:We have a certain busy tower facility that thinks ground stops/EDCTs are suggestions, more than requirements. OK, well those guys are assholes and ultimately shooting themselves in the foot. And that just leads to piss poor service in the end.
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Aug 14, 2016 19:12
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DFW always manages to have 4-5 aircraft already "rolling" when we tell them to stop departures.
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Aug 14, 2016 19:34
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The Ferret King posted:DFW always manages to have 4-5 aircraft already "rolling" when we tell them to stop departures. I mean, with all those runways, it seems feasible 
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Aug 15, 2016 04:41
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Yeah but they only use 2 to depart from. Last day to submit your application for ATC, everyone.
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Aug 15, 2016 15:53
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The Ferret King posted:DFW always manages to have 4-5 aircraft already "rolling" when we tell them to stop departures. If they never stop rolling after push back it counts right?
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Aug 15, 2016 15:55
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The Ferret King posted:DFW always manages to have 4-5 aircraft already "rolling" when we tell them to stop departures. Honestly, I can buy this, especially with two runways for departure use only. If you have ever worked a busy departure push with multiple runways it can happen. And no controller worth his salt is going to cancel a aircraft's take off after he is rolling if a TMU initiative kicks in during. Tommy 2.0 fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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Aug 15, 2016 22:25
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It's not tmu. It's the radar controller. And they abuse it. And it makes the center very angry. And then nothing changes. It's not that big a deal unless you actually care about what the center wants for spacing.
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Aug 16, 2016 02:10
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The Ferret King posted:It's not that big a deal unless you actually care about what the center wants for spacing. loving  T75 can only handle this if there aren't any satellite departures thrown in  e: And we never have spacing requirements on them. That's just 2 random planes.
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Aug 16, 2016 02:20
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This looks good http://www.nats.aero/news/go-behind-the-scenes-at-air-traffic-control-in-major-new-tv-series/ First episode was on last Wednesday and features the RAF Quick Reaction Force and airspace intruders etc
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Aug 23, 2016 18:07
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thehustler posted:This looks good I legit laughed hard when they shut Gatwick arrivals off due to a mode C intruder, and said they need 5 miles and 5,000 feet. It's no longer a mystery to me why there's so much air traffic congestion in the UK. Also, the face on the guy with no body hair when he finally got to solo the Typhoon was awesome.
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Aug 27, 2016 21:01
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Yeah he seems cool. My favourite was drone oval office from episode 2. What an absolute prick.
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Aug 28, 2016 22:23
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I totally forgot until just now, as I'm sitting on a flight out... Did any of you fucks go to convention? Or do they even let you out in public?
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Sep 2, 2016 07:22
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Several people from DFW approach went. I'm in training so I'm abstaining from extra curricular stuff.
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The Ferret King posted:Several people from DFW approach went. Yeah I saw a bunch of people from D10 (or is it D15, what does the stupid number mean anyways)? Seemed like pretty cool peoples.
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Sep 2, 2016 20:45
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It's D10, and I have no idea. I like my coworkers. Most of the time. I heard there was some talk from out guys about the money New York is getting for training people. I hope that drew some attention. New York approach is basically getting a premium for training people, above and beyond what everyone else gets. They also get a lump sum bonus every time they certify a new controller. It ruffled some feathers when everyone else found out about it, naturally. The Ferret King fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Sep 3, 2016 |
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Sep 2, 2016 20:59
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The problem with New York is that it's full of New Yorkers.
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MrYenko posted:The problem with New York is that it's full of New Yorkers. Those new york values doe. $3,000 per CPC in the area of specialization and 15% extra to train someone an hour (25% total versus 10%)
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Today was the final day for the 35year old-timey controller application and I didn't realize that until today. Applied. EDIT: the application questionnaire was much different from the ones I did when I applied before. Almost every textbox was just 'type your date of birth here' and one was 'if you have experience, put that and your date of birth in the box'. Blackchamber fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Sep 20, 2016 |
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Sep 20, 2016 17:28
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And just to clarify for anyone else reading, that the announcement is for previous experience air traffic controllers, not Off-The-Street new hires. Which is why I didn't mention it in this thread.
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Hey guys, WARP is beginning deployment of the new SMG to transmit more accurate and higher resolution weather radar to the glass. Currently it is turned on at ZDC and ZFW and we're expecting other ARTCCs to step up shortly after install (planned final deployment is second week of Nov). There should be a briefing for it by now. It is currently enabled with the all data inclusion pending the completion of the Met eval. This means that the typical Anomalous Propagation you see with the current filters are still there. After the Met eval, high confidence mode will be enabled which will alleviate a lot of the AP problems. Do y'all have any questions for me on this or any other WARP related stuff?
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What's the reasoning for WARP being blue and purple vs the more traditional green to red?
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 : "Miami, we'd like to report a drone here at ten thousand." : "Cathay forty-two, understand a drone at one zero thousand. Can you estimate size?"... : "Miami, it may have been a weather balloon, we're discussing it.": "Oook..."... : "We're not sure what it was, Miami, but it was pretty big. About the size of a Cessna." : "Cathay forty-two, we copy. Thanks for the report."
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Thanks to the efforts of TangoFox, Hurricane Matthew, being literally at the bottom of the seniority list, and not just a little good luck, guess who has two thumbs, and is headed in for possibly 20+ hours of hurricane-overtime? THIS GUY
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MrYenko posted:Thanks to the efforts of TangoFox, Hurricane Matthew, being literally at the bottom of the seniority list, and not just a little good luck, guess who has two thumbs, and is headed in for possibly 20+ hours of hurricane-overtime? Never answer your phone!
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I wouldn't trust any of our ATC buildings to withstand hurricane force winds. Be safe.
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The Ferret King posted:I wouldn't trust any of our ATC buildings to withstand hurricane force winds. Be safe. I'll take my chances with the storm if it means the building falls down around us and they have to move it out of Doral.
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fknlo posted:What's the reasoning for WARP being blue and purple vs the more traditional green to red? Not positive on this; however, I believe it was a Union request. May also have had something to do with the amount of colors the displays have too.
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!! Made it through to the testing phase!! I know there's still more to go through before a chance at an offer, but it's one step closer than the last two times! Other than the practice tests they list on PSI, what are some good study guides out there there? Are any worth paying for?
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its all nice on rice posted:!! Made it through to the testing phase!! I know there's still more to go through before a chance at an offer, but it's one step closer than the last two times! gently caress yes.  I bought a copy of the green book, and would offer it to you, but it got lent out and disappeared years ago. The version with the CD-ROM has an (awful) simulation of the ATSAT. Practicing with the letter factory is really the only thing I'd recommend. I don't remember anything from the testing phase that wasn't straight-up aptitude. Where are you testing?
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Wilsonville, OR is the nearest facility. I've got just over two weeks to prepare.
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Pretty sure it's a new test so the green book may not be very helpful. I tried the new test when I was at the academy last year (or at least what they told us was going to be the new test) and it was completely different. Keep an eye on stuckmic for anyone who takes the test in the first few days to get an idea of what it was like. Good luck!
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