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Phenotype posted:Are DVR and online viewing being tracked, now? The last time I read about TV ratings, which was quite a few years ago, shows were getting hurt by the fact that a lot of their core audience was moving away from regular scheduled TV. Yeah, Nielsen's been tracking them for quite a while: those metrics are referred to as Live+3 [Days] and Live+7. Until very recently, DVR numbers meant little for network TV because as far as advertisers were concerned, DVR users could fast forward past commercials entirely(*). But lately even network's been beating the drum for DVR; they know the future's coming and the live audiences are just going to shrink as new ways to catch up on TV become more prevalent. Now, whether they've found a way to monetize those numbers, or they've convinced advertisers that it's worth paying attention to them, that's for a smarter man than me to answer. (*)Having said that, there's a metric labeled "C3" that tracks Live+3 viewers who don't fast forward through commercials, but I don't often see those published.
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Zero One posted:That was intense. Seriously. The pure loving MENACE in those scenes was like.. Daaaaaamn.
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Ronald Regan doesn't care about white people!
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Zero One posted:Ronald Reagan doesn't care about poor people! Fixed
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Busted.
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Good episode all around. Elizabeth was terrifying with the crowbar.screenwritersblues posted:drat, Phillip has the best 80s father figure type that I've seen on TV in a while. FX is doing an excellent job editing the previews. The one last week made it look like Phillip was on the rooftop with Stan. It faked me out. I was looking forward to that confrontation all week.
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grrarg posted:Good episode all around. Elizabeth was terrifying with the crowbar. Except the preview begins with a shot of the roof guy's face as he loads his rifle.
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Huh, must have walked back into the room after they showed his face. I still think the previews have been good this season.
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That was a cool way to burn a letter.
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I like that they've worked in the beginnings of the Kongsberg-Toshiba espionage case into the story. Very nice detail.
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It was kinda stretching the suspension of disbelief that a beefy guy who worked in a factory would be that intimidated by a petite woman, crowbar or no. They should have had him be an older, slighter dude or had Elizabeth carrying a gun. Otherwise great episode. Is this available online anywhere legal that doesn't charge? I'm also really looking forward to when the show reaches the USSR collapsing under it's own weight. So far the KGB had been depicted as pretty unfailingly competent, assassin fuckup excepted, so seeing that support network degrade rapidly and then disappear is gonna be pretty interesting. Fill Baptismal fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Mar 13, 2014 |
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Im guessing Aunt Helen is a Soviet as well, but what was the deal with her forgetting Paige's name and calling her Shelly? Is she pretending to be senile?
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Good episode. Glad to finally have some good music this season!Pron on VHS posted:Im guessing Aunt Helen is a Soviet as well, but what was the deal with her forgetting Paige's name and calling her Shelly? Is she pretending to be senile? Yeah exactly, she was pretending to not recognize Paige in order to avoid explaining anything.
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TheAngryDrunk posted:Unrelated, but is St. Goerge looking like the least funny sitcom ever or what? You, shut up. The George Lopez show was hilarious and I bet this will be too! Also, great ep. edit: Please go away, Paige. Please.
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Pron on VHS posted:That was a cool way to burn a letter. Going by this and the movie The Good Shepherd, that seems to be the official spy method of burning letters.
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JohnSherman posted:Is it normal for Russians to always address each other by their full names? In the residence they are calling each other by first name and patronymic (ex. Nina Sergeevna (Nina daughter-of-Sergey), Oleg Igorevich (son-of-Igor) which is just addressing coworkers and non-close friends/acquaintances with routine respect. Passive-aggressive poo poo is going to get real if/when Oleg starts overstepping social bounds and calling his superiors, or even Nina, by more familiar terms or even by nicknames. His character seems like the sort of jackass that would do that to push buttons.  Oh, Oleg. I wanna see Nina destroy you.
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Hand of the King posted:You, shut up. The George Lopez show was hilarious and I bet this will be too! I like Paige, I think its interesting that she's figuring things out.
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Can someone give me a Cliff Notes version of this episode? My loving DVR decided not to record it last night for some reason.
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Gonz posted:Can someone give me a Cliff Notes version of this episode? My loving DVR decided not to record it last night for some reason. Paige starts putting things together, Flashbacks. FBI tells Nina he loves her. She reports back to Moscow. Felicity checks up on orphaned Russian boy in his foster home. All seems well. Paige gets in trouble for visiting a relative. What am I missing?
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Propaganda Machine posted:What am I missing? Henry's cheap star wheel was a piece of poo poo. Dr_Strangelove posted:I like that they've worked in the beginnings of the Kongsberg-Toshiba espionage case into the story. Very nice detail. It's neat they're going for something like that as a plot device rather than SDI. Late Soviet computer systems are kinda interesting because of CoCom forcing them to half reverse engineer what they could steal and half come up with stuff on their own. Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Mar 13, 2014 |
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comes along bort posted:It's neat they're going for something like that as a plot device rather than SDI. Late Soviet computer systems are kinda interesting because of CoCom forcing them to half reverse engineer what they could steal and half come up with stuff on their own. Agreed. It's subtle, and shows that the writers/producers did a little more than surface research. e: I enjoy the personal computer clones they produced. Dr_Strangelove fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Mar 13, 2014 |
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Propaganda Machine posted:Paige starts putting things together, You forgot Stan shooting the "walk in" from the previous episode and Elizabeth scaring the poo poo out of that poor shmoe in the propeller factory
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Propaganda Machine posted:Felicity checks up on orphaned Russian boy in his foster home. All seems well.
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I thought Philip was going to smack the poo poo out of Paige when she was talking back. Keri Russell and Matthew Rhys do an impressive job being very scary and intimidating when needed.
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His response to Paige's story about having to prep for a debate club tryout was the perfect level of sarcasm.
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wukkar posted:She decided that if Paige and Henry were orphaned by her and Phillip dying, she would want them to keep their ignorance that their parents were Russian spies. That's why she burned OtherRussianSpyCouple's kid's letter despite promising to deliver it. I don't think that's the only reason. If she gave the kid that letter it would cause a huge clusterfuck, no matter how she feels about Paige and Henry.
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Was Aunt Helen introduced or referred to in season 1 and I've forgotten? I can't remember if season 1 featured any scenes that had the parents talking to the kids about their extended families, or lack of them.
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savinhill posted:Was Aunt Helen introduced or referred to in season 1 and I've forgotten? I can't remember if season 1 featured any scenes that had the parents talking to the kids about their extended families, or lack of them. She was mentioned towards the end of the last episode of season 1 as an aunt that Elizabeth was supposedly visiting (but really she was recovering from her gunshot wound).
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Wait, so did the murdered spy family keep the letter explaining everything in their house? Also kung-fu master or not, Felicity intimidating that guy with a crowbar was quite optimistic. Otherwise that was a quite good episode, though compared to the first one, it feels like barely anything is happening. The walk-in resolution in particular felt a bit disappointing, thought maybe they'll manage to make something more out of it later.
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Goddamn how good was that episode? The whole thing was tense as gently caress. Factory guy intimidation was incredible acting. Appreciated how after Philip did his Bad Cop routine on Paige, he gave that look over his shoulder to let us know he hated having to be that harsh with her. Matthew Rhys and Keri Russell deserve all the awards. I'm going to go ahead and assume that Paige's new friend was KGB (when Philip said the kids would have people "on them" and that they wouldn't be able to tell who they were, etc). And I take it back, New Guy at KGB HQ is growing on me. I don't know if he'll end up being a goofy America-lover or if he's trying to spy on her for his dad, but either way, he was fun in his scene this week. Feel so bad for Stan though, he's getting played so hard and obviously still has feelings for his wife (and vice versa) so it's going to really suck when the poo poo hits the propeller.
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I thought that episode was lame. I don't give a gently caress about Paige or her uncovering stuff at all. Same with them dealing with "what if we die who will look after our kids" stuff. And Felicity intimidating that guy with the crowbar was loving laughable and bad. She should've had a gun. I mean there was nothing stopping that guy from just walking out of the room when she just first picked it up and he was asking her questions. The best part of the episode was that guy yelling Ronald Reagan doesn't care.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I mean there was nothing stopping that guy from just walking out of the room when she just first picked it up and he was asking her questions. The other thing is, I am sure they were pretty deep into the facility. Once they left the room he could have easily notified someone and had them apprehended, then took the picture of his son back. I feel this is all just nit-picking though, I loved this episode and the whole series so far.
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mobby_6kl posted:Otherwise that was a quite good episode, though compared to the first one, it feels like barely anything is happening. The walk-in resolution in particular felt a bit disappointing, thought maybe they'll manage to make something more out of it later. The walk-in was used by the KGB to prop up Stan's career and get him in deeper with Nina. It was excellent chess by Arkady.
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