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the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

What a week it's been.
So much to talk about.
And so many things we can't talk about.

you can tell from the get-go who was hosed and going home with ep. 8 so at least there's that?

what would happen if Bianca and Willam teamed up? has that happened? would an ep of Bianca's Wheatdown come of it?!

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blizzardvizard
Sep 12, 2012

Shhh... don't wake up the sleeping lion :3:

Bianca was absolutely amazing and Laganja's time is due, nothing more needs to be said.

Trinity is the biggest surprise this week! No one really came close to Bianca in the comedy challenge, but if I have to name a second it would be Trinity. The cookbook bit was already funny, but "she had an ear infection so she starved to death" was comedy gold. :haw: Bianca and Darienne relied on rapid-fire jokes, but I thought Trinity's performance is very cleverly structured and showed the most thought. A shame she doesn't command the stage as well as Bianca can, though that's a tall order.

Ben's comedy segment was surprisingly bad. I can see how it could've been funny, but it turned out to be almost as bad as Laganja's performance, and that really says something. And I thought Adore's character would suit stand-up comedy perfectly.

Courtney continues to... not impress. I don't think she's bad, she doesn't shine as much as I initially expected her to. And concerning her bitchy (?) comments about Joslyn's lack of polish, I don't think Courtney's in the wrong, really. Adore's lack of polish is intentional, but Joslyn seems to be trying to do something - genderqueer? glamour? - and it's not really working. I love Joslyn, but she is very defensive about it.

Speaking of which, the rivalries feel very heavily edited, aren't they? As if the producers are desperately trying to find some Rolaskatoxx vs Jinkx/Sharon Needles vs Phi Phi somewhere.

And of course, the synchronized splits :allears:

Pigasus
Dec 26, 2009

Too fat to wear pink.

This was just a glorious week to be a RPDR fan.

I think Courtney is right about Joslyn's drag not being as polished as some of the other ladies' drag. I don't think that was a really cruel read and Joslyn is failing to see the truth in what Courtney is saying due to her own worship of Courtney. She was incredibly hurt by Courtney because she doesn't see Courtney as a fellow competitor/companion. She put Courtney on a pedestal and all of the hopes and expectations on it. I really hope that Joslyn knocks out of it next week because otherwise, I think she's a charming queen in a similar vein as Adore.

On that note, I can see how Joslyn and Adore share some similar strengths and flaws. They both have trouble with the runway looks because their outfits aren't as-well composed as Bianca or DeLa, but their other talents and most importantly, their charm and personality really pull them through.

Same can be said for Courtney, if it wasn't for that amazing voice of hers and how she uses it.

CHiRAL
Mar 28, 2010

Anus.
There is already an extended clip for the comedy challenge on LogoTV's website.

Ben was actually very funny in a clever toned down sort of way but it just doesn't work for stand up. It's a real shame because I love that kind of humor a lot more.

Also there is a new Billam's Wheatdown about popping zits which I can't bring myself to watch (I just ate :().
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSCSUw3qBS0
Let me know if there are actual zits being popped. I am so torn between my rabid obsession and aversion to certain bodily functions :( :( :(

do u believe in marigolds
Sep 13, 2007

CHiRAL posted:

There is already an extended clip for the comedy challenge on LogoTV's website.

Ben was actually very funny in a clever toned down sort of way but it just doesn't work for stand up. It's a real shame because I love that kind of humor a lot more.

Also there is a new Billam's Wheatdown about popping zits which I can't bring myself to watch (I just ate :().
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSCSUw3qBS0
Let me know if there are actual zits being popped. I am so torn between my rabid obsession and aversion to certain bodily functions :( :( :(

There is definitely a zit being popped.

CHiRAL
Mar 28, 2010

Anus.
:negative:


Content:
Did Raven shrink?
Raven's mother performed with Juju for Raven's birthday :3:

DominoDancing
Apr 26, 2008

Each morning after Sunblest
Feel the benefit
Mental arithmetic

CHiRAL posted:

Let me know if there are actual zits being popped. I am so torn between my rabid obsession and aversion to certain bodily functions :( :( :(

Haha, no you certainly don't want to watch that.

About the new episodes:
Good to know that the editors and script writers hated Laganja (or more precisely, her constant catchphrase spouting) as much as the viewers did, 'cause holy poo poo, she got loving eviscerated this week. I'm not sad to see her go and I'm happy Joselyn stays.

Yes, I agree that Joselyn's looks are not quite as polished as what some of the others present. But Courtney really, really showed a mean side this week. It was not just that single comment in Untucked, she was needling Joselyn throughout the whole challenge and was incredibly patronizing. It didn't really look good on her. There was scene later when they were doing their makeup. Joselyn was telling a story about her grandparents (I think), and the way she spoke was a lot more serious and determined than her usual bubbly self. You could really sense how pissed off she was that Courtney behaved like such a bitch, and I felt like cheering her on.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Joslyn is really quite something. She's smart as a whip despite the giggly-bimbo routine, and she's making Courtney's attempts to undermine her look real petty. Miss Congeniality is hers to lose imo.

do u believe in marigolds
Sep 13, 2007
Milk on Tranformations and, man, is he charming and adorable out of drag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNpD2xG23Eg

beepsandboops
Jan 28, 2014
Courtney seemed to be serving up some Pinocchio realness on the Glamazon episode:

iceyman
Jul 11, 2001

Mmmm hmmm, momma. That was a lot of episode to swallow. And it was delicious. A very entertaining 4 hours to watch.

Josylyn and her bf are just super adorbs.

Werk it momma, oh-kaaay!

Geez it, so glad she is gone, momma.

Bina
Dec 28, 2011

Love Deluxe
:stonk: DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD.

Props to TKB- Girl, if you keep this up, I might be rooting for you after all.

Bianca murdered that challenge. Bianca can have all my money. :allears:

Poor Ben. :( I hope she can really show how crafty, talented, and witty she is. (And some vulnerability)

HOLY poo poo THAT DOUBLE SPLIT. OH MY GOD :woop: Joslyn is one of those queens who I really want to see more of. I really like her.

Darienne... You're next. :frogout:

I hope Adore can put all of that behind her. In that Untucked... Wow. Just... Wow. Laganja really needs to go see a specialist, she even said that Alyssa told her her forte wasn't drag.

I honestly want Courtney to go home now. What a bitch.

Top three renewed:

Bianca, Ben, and Joslyn. :colbert:

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

Bina posted:

In that Untucked... Wow. Just... Wow. Laganja really needs to go see a specialist, she even said that Alyssa told her her forte wasn't drag.

To be fair, I thought it was just that Alyssa thought Laganja was a good dancer and that she should focus on that rather than drag. But, whatever. I think it was TLo who said Laganja reeks of suburban white privilege, and that was pretty spot on. Shade is okay, but whiny is obnoxious.

Also, yeah. I'm totally over Courtney but Darienne needs to :frogout: first.

PostsYouCanDanceTo
Sep 23, 2005

LaGanja is a child who, I assume, has been given nothing but love and adoration her whole life and is now too spoiled to have any barometer for what normal human relationships look like. I'm guessing she hasn't had too much in the way of specific hardships in her life either or she would have dragged them out at the slightest provocation in a "bitch, you don't know me!" kinda way. It also doesn't help that She probably hasn't done any performing outside of cunty/fierce lip syncs at drag bars, and now that she's on drag race where she needs a real skill set, she's risen to her own level of incompetence, coupled with a over-inflated sense of worth, and now she doesn't know what to do with any of this information.

Watching her friendship with Adore crumble was pretty awesome. Not that it can't be rebuilt, but it definitely isn't what it used to be. Watching Ben crumble isn't nearly as fun. I want him in the top 3! But watching How Trinity Got her Groove Back has been nothing short of inspiring. She did great in both challenges! And I want Joslyn to win one cuz that would make me happy. Courtney's critiques, btw, were not wrong, but the delivery was shady. But Joslyn didn't make too big a fuss out of it either. Mostly just a sharp comment on her part. Compared to some of the other poo poo that's gone down over the seasons on this show, they were at the height of decorum. Josyln is so a lock for Ms. Congeniality, does anyone on the internet dislike her? It doesn't seem that way.

But seriously, watching Laganja crumble was glorious (I am an awful person, yes). I also will accept the possibility she has a personality disorder, because seriously.

CHiRAL
Mar 28, 2010

Anus.
I wonder if Courtney shot in all directions like she always seemed to do in the previous episodes but only the Joslyn shade got edited in to create drama or to keep people from wanting her on the top 3. I wouldn't be surprised if they're still friends now.

Catling Gun
Jan 4, 2009

After a couple episodes, I started joking about Adore Del Rio (seriously, Bianca, adopt that kid she needs to learn to sew), and now it's Trinity Del Rio.

She skyrocketed into first place for me because mentoring younger queens is both very sweet and also very Ru. She tries to forge them through mockery and hoarse shouting instead of through runway reads, but the principle's the same. Bianca might be the most RuPaul of this season's queens.

Basically, Bianca, adopt every contestant. Show them your ways. RuPaul's Drag Race Season Six Del Rio.

Wungus
Mar 5, 2004

I really hope Bianca sits Ben down and says "Honey, you're a costume queen. Remember how Michelle hated Jinxx for doing what you do only more annoying? Play to form, stop trying to win over someone who hates you."

Ben was my initial pick to win but the way she's getting all inside her own head about things Michelle says is really upsetting. She's the most naturally charming motherfucker since Manilla Luzon, she shouldn't be hitting near the bottom in a challenge where she has to be saucy and charm a bunch of old people with comedy. I still hope that the top three are Ben, Adore and Bianca though, and that either Darienne or Joslyn sends home Courtney.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



^^EDIT: The cracks that suddenly appeared in Ben's persona were astonishing, considering how polished she's been so far, but not exactly unexpected now that I think about how much of a persona it really seems to be for her. :(

CHiRAL posted:

I wonder if Courtney shot in all directions like she always seemed to do in the previous episodes but only the Joslyn shade got edited in to create drama or to keep people from wanting her on the top 3. I wouldn't be surprised if they're still friends now.

Word from Courtney's twitter feed is that they were friends throughout the competition, but that it's a really...pointed...edit.

Which is what someone would say under the circumstances, but I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Unless she became an egotistic über-bitch overnight, which is possible given the alternate title of this show, Drag Queens in A Pressure Cooker.

(Or, as Bianca put it early on, "Drag queens in a contest...the only thing worse is prison")

PostsYouCanDanceTo posted:

But seriously, watching Laganja crumble was glorious (I am an awful person, yes). I also will accept the possibility she has a personality disorder, because seriously.

I'm still standing by my sorta crackpot theory that she had to go off weed for the show, and with each week we see her go further and further into withdrawal, and more and more into the kind of anxious, reactive behavior that some people I know "self-medicate" with weed for. Or, to put it another way: the Ganja was keeping her less Estranja, badumtish.

Wungus
Mar 5, 2004

Combed Thunderclap posted:

^^EDIT: The cracks that suddenly appeared in Ben's persona were astonishing, considering how polished she's been so far, but not exactly unexpected now that I think about how much of a persona it really seems to be for her. :(
The thing I don't get is she has such a great, weird personality out of drag, and a great, comedic, charming persona in drag, and yet she just hosed up two challenges in a row that she should have knocked out of the park if she would just stop trying to get Michelle (and to a lesser extent, Darienne) to like her.

The way Ben just held poo poo together while Darienne was trash-talking their relationship to Ru was incredible; all smiles and "You really think we're that different?" pleasantries. Bring some of that professional-rear end confidence back to the fuckin' challenges.

Bina
Dec 28, 2011

Love Deluxe

Combed Thunderclap posted:

^^EDIT: The cracks that suddenly appeared in Ben's persona were astonishing, considering how polished she's been so far, but not exactly unexpected now that I think about how much of a persona it really seems to be for her. :(


Word from Courtney's twitter feed is that they were friends throughout the competition, but that it's a really...pointed...edit.

Which is what someone would say under the circumstances, but I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Unless she became an egotistic über-bitch overnight, which is possible given the alternate title of this show, Drag Queens in A Pressure Cooker.

(Or, as Bianca put it early on, "Drag queens in a contest...the only thing worse is prison")


I'm still standing by my sorta crackpot theory that she had to go off weed for the show, and with each week we see her go further and further into withdrawal, and more and more into the kind of anxious, reactive behavior that some people I know "self-medicate" with weed for. Or, to put it another way: the Ganja was keeping her less Estranja, badumtish.

If THAT is the way you behave when off your 'medication' then, drat. Girl needs a specialist.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Bina posted:

If THAT is the way you behave when off your 'medication' then, drat. Girl needs a specialist.

The people I know who do self-medicate with weed are also not coincidentally rather unpleasant and combative when they aren't fresh off the weed train. Girl definitely needs a specialist.

dude789
Nov 4, 2009

I'll make your ass sense.
I get the feeling that with all the drama they're playing up between Joslyn and Courtney, that Joslyn ends up sending Courtney home. We learned that Joslyn can kill it in a lip sync this episode and it seems like a very satisfying conclusion to Joslyn and Courtney's season arcs so far.

Elucidarius
Oct 14, 2006

dude789 posted:

I get the feeling that with all the drama they're playing up between Joslyn and Courtney, that Joslyn ends up sending Courtney home. We learned that Joslyn can kill it in a lip sync this episode and it seems like a very satisfying conclusion to Joslyn and Courtney's season arcs so far.

If this happened, I would honestly not care who won this season. They could bring Magnolia back and have her win it and the entire season would be worth it.

Bina
Dec 28, 2011

Love Deluxe



:woop::woop::woop::woop::woop::woop::woop::woop:

Tin Miss
Apr 8, 2009

Meow
I feel like this "Best Moments of Alyssa Edwards" video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIFqNXiA5kI) gives some insight into Laganja's affectations. She's not doing Laganja Estranja, she's doing Alyssa Edwards. Which makes some sense since Alyssa is her drag mother and Laganja seems to be a very insecure person. Instead of relying on her own personality to shine through, she's decided to imitate someone else and take it to the next annoying level.

The thing is, it works with Alyssa because that's just her natural personality to be an over the top caricature. She's weird and clueless all on her own, there's no effort involved. Laganja seems to be working extra hard to be what she thinks a drag queen should be and not just herself. Which is a shame because she's a pretty girl, she can move and she has some cool costumes, (I will agree with her that her looks are usually put together better than Adore's) but nobody is going to pay any attention to that when she's so goddamned annoying. I actually really liked her pink afro and rainbow outfit this week, but her comedy was awful and she definitely deserved to go home.

As for the others, I'm completely over Courtney and Darienne just needs to shut the gently caress up. I thought there must be more to Land o Lakes' hatred of Ben, but nope, when she was explaining it later it was literally just about that one comment Ben made about winning two challenges. I think maybe the producers were just fishing for drama because it seemed like it really came out of nowhere.

I loooove that Joslyn out-splitted Laganja and I'm so glad she stayed. She's just adorable and so nice, not to mention she has a bangin body. I couldn't believe how outright mean Cuntney was being to her. It's one thing to be a bit catty and play up the "Oh I'm the best one here" schtick but it's another to just cut down your teammate for no good reason, especially when you know they look up to you. Maybe she was possessed by the ghost of Roxxxy? I thought it was a stark contrast to sweet little Adore who was talking about how she was too polite to tell Laganja she sucked.

I'm starting to think Adore might be my favourite which is funny because I hated her in the beginning. But, like Bianca, she's not actually as bitchy as she seems. My dream Top 3 would be Bianca, Adore and Joslyn, but I know that'll never happen, so I'm gonna predict its Bianca, Adore and either Cuntney or TKB coming in as a dark horse. Ben should be there, but I feel like she's gotten too into her head now and ahaha like Darienne would ever get to Top 3.

Tin Miss fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Apr 9, 2014

RICKON WALNUTSBANE
Jun 13, 2001


Ben is coming off too good in the Ben vs. Darienne "feud" to not make top 3. Bianca for the win (duh) followed by Adore then Ben.

Carlton Banks Teller
Nov 17, 2004


Bina posted:

~spoiler images~
:woop::woop::woop::woop::woop::woop::woop::woop:

oh. my.

Trinity to me is the best when she's doing nontraditional or overly-theatrical (oxymoron for a drag queen?) makeup. Her first runway is still my favorite she's done thus far, but that piece there is PRETTY GREAT. The others, also great. This is from the next episode I assume/hope? Best runway ever if that's any indication.

I still really like Courtney, and feel like she's getting a weird edit (see her being super-charismatic while credits roll, plus some untucked moments). That said, she was needlessly rude. She and Joslyn are apparently still friends on the social medias, but then again, she also maintains that her comments to Joslyn weren't shady, just "helpful". I agree with her main point that Joslyn's runways are/were unpolished but drat, there had to have been a more tactful way to say it. I don't want her to lose because of what she said; I just wish she were popping more on the main stage to help take the edge off some cattiness 'cause that's all she's really stood out for since the musical challenge.

Carlton Banks Teller fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Apr 9, 2014

curiousTerminal
Sep 2, 2011

what a humorous anecdote.

RICKON WALNUTSBANE posted:

Ben is coming off too good in the Ben vs. Darienne "feud" to not make top 3. Bianca for the win (duh) followed by Adore then Ben.

It's also pretty unlikely because non elimnations are always done for ~story purposes~. It's always someone who's scripted to get really drat far, and yes I count Willam's disqualification as a non elimination. Season 3 had Yara get to the top 4, season 4 had Sharon and Phi-Phi, 5 was Roxxxy, and now with 6 we have Ben. Ben's getting to top 3, there's no reason he'd be kept on otherwise.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer

Carlton Banks Teller posted:

I agree with her main point that Joslyn's runways are/were unpolished but drat, there had to have been a more tactful way to say it.

Yeah, and I don't even feel like what she said was all that bad, but from Joslyn's point of view she is literally the worst possible person to be saying that. If somebody else had said it she could have taken it with a grain of salt, but to have one of your heroes basically imply that you don't deserve to be there is way more painful.

yoshesque
Dec 19, 2010

I agree with what Courtney said about Joslyn, and I believe that she was trying to be helpful, but drat, she must've known that Joslyn idolised her. Hearing that kind of feedback from your idol must be soul crushing.

I was pinning Courtney to win this thing (or at least top three) but I think he's been so boring when it comes to the challenges. She really needs to get more critiques from the judges. We know she can respond to critique well when she gets it, she just needs more of it :argh:

Stroop There It Is
Mar 11, 2012

:gengar::gengar::gengar::gengar::gengar:
:stroop: :gaysper: :stroop:
:gengar::gengar::gengar::gengar::gengar:

Totally not on topic with the current discussion, but I've noticed that people--myself included--often use both male and female pronouns to refer to the same or different drag queens at different times. It doesn't seem to be limited to particular contexts, such as when referring to them as their drag persona (female) versus the actual person (male, in the majority of cases). I wonder what causes people to use one or the other. Any thoughts on that? Have any of you noticed yourselves doing this?

Sorry, I'm a psycholinguistics grad student, I can't help myself. Have a gif:


Also I have to say, when I watched the episodes with a bunch of normally very chatty friends, everyone in the room was dead silent from the second Ben and Darienne's lipsync ended to when Ru said that Ben was going to stay.

caligulamprey
Jan 23, 2007

It never stops.

RICKON WALNUTSBANE posted:

Ben is coming off too good in the Ben vs. Darienne "feud"
I don't even think Ben's aware that he's in a feud, which is the best part of watching Darienne fume.

EDIT: Male-pronouns this time around specifically because the feud seems to be built around Darienne's out-of-drag talking head moments.

caligulamprey fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Apr 10, 2014

Elucidarius
Oct 14, 2006

caligulamprey posted:

I don't even think Ben's aware that he's in a feud, which is the best part of watching Darienne fume.

The best part was for the frenemies challenge where Ben says something like "Oh I can't wait to work with Darienne she's talented!" and Darienne is just pissed.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.

Stroop There It Is posted:

Totally not on topic with the current discussion, but I've noticed that people--myself included--often use both male and female pronouns to refer to the same or different drag queens at different times. It doesn't seem to be limited to particular contexts, such as when referring to them as their drag persona (female) versus the actual person (male, in the majority of cases). I wonder what causes people to use one or the other. Any thoughts on that? Have any of you noticed yourselves doing this?

Sorry, I'm a psycholinguistics grad student, I can't help myself. Have a gif:

I've totally thought about this, and I've noticed that for me it's largely context-based. I usually default to female for the vast majority of the queens, unless I'm talking about someone with a drag persona that's clearly very different than their interview/workroom self. Like Ben, for instance, or if I'm talking about them completely outside of a Drag Race context. I think I even posted something about Milk earlier in the thread and said "He's cute out of drag" or something. It definitely varies a lot, though but if I'm talking exclusively about boy-Jinkx* or whatever, I'll use he, but otherwise I pretty much just say she. I will throw in the occasional he if I'm being shady, for instance, to clock someone horrible like Serena from S5. Except for the trans queens, obviously I use she permanently for them when I find out they're trans.

For Laganja I've been using the Cro-Magnon pronoun, "Ugh."

I think Ru said it best: "You can call me he, you can call me she, you can call me Regis and Kathy Lee. I don't care, just as long as you call me!"

*a great name for a gay bar

I love you for making this comparison.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

I usually say "she", but sometimes call the queens "he" if they use their boy-names professionally. I keep wanting to call Ben "he". Willam is always "he". (He's a special case because as far as I can tell his drag persona is completely indistinguishable from his guy-self, except with more eyeshadow and packing tape.) I called Chad Michaels "he" too. It's weird.

Unrelated: I've seen people postulating that Laganja's meltdowns might have been exacerbated because she uses weed to medicate for anxiety, and the queens aren't allowed to smoke, even offcamera. Why is this? CA is a MMJ state and the requirements for medical need are extremely loose; you pretty much just have to stroll into a storefront on the Venice boardwalk and say "sometimes I get the mulligrubs, give me some indica". It's still illegal per federal law, of course, but not in practice. Jinkx has said that she was an unhinged weepy mess on her season because she couldn't get high to help her sleep, and she has a legitimate diagnosis. They're allowed to drink. I don't get it. Laganja still sucks like a jet turbine.

e: Also unrelated, but terrific: a video about our beloved Bianca's double life as drag performer and costume designer. She has so much soul I can't stand it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYNgMUIKyUY

spite house fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Apr 10, 2014

PostsYouCanDanceTo
Sep 23, 2005

spite house posted:

Unrelated: I've seen people postulating that Laganja's meltdowns might have been exacerbated because she uses weed to medicate for anxiety, and the queens aren't allowed to smoke, even offcamera. Why is this? CA is a MMJ state and the requirements for medical need are extremely loose; you pretty much just have to stroll into a storefront on the Venice boardwalk and say "sometimes I get the mulligrubs, give me some indica". It's still illegal per federal law, of course, but not in practice. Jinkx has said that she was an unhinged weepy mess on her season because she couldn't get high to help her sleep, and she has a legitimate diagnosis. They're allowed to drink. I don't get it. Laganja still sucks like a jet turbine.

According to this advocacy group, the federal government does not recognize marijuana as having any medicinal value (which is loving bullshit I mean, a shame, since cannaboids show great promise as anti-tumor and anti-inflammatory medication) and still qualifies it as an illegal substance. Using medical marijuana is a very dicey proposition, despite state laws. So I'm sure Logo doesn't want to be held responsible should someone's marijuana use get back to the channel.

What Laganja really needs is a behavioral therapist to teach her life skills.

Final note: I tend to use he/she interchangeably because I'm flighty and can't keep my words straight.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

I'm pretty sure the network doesn't give a flying gently caress about federal law and just wants to depict people flaking out as much as possible whenever possible, and that's kinda lame. Still, thanks for the T.

Bina
Dec 28, 2011

Love Deluxe

PostsYouCanDanceTo posted:

According to this advocacy group, the federal government does not recognize marijuana as having any medicinal value (which is loving bullshit I mean, a shame, since cannaboids show great promise as anti-tumor and anti-inflammatory medication) and still qualifies it as an illegal substance. Using medical marijuana is a very dicey proposition, despite state laws. So I'm sure Logo doesn't want to be held responsible should someone's marijuana use get back to the channel.

What Laganja really needs is a behavioral therapist to teach her life skills.

Final note: I tend to use he/she interchangeably because I'm flighty and can't keep my words straight.

I also sometimes cannot really put a word in it's correct spot.

I try to pay attention to the non-tumblr trans talk, so I can learn the right way to address people.

If it looks like it's a female, and expresses as female it's her.

If it looks, and expresses, then it's him.

If I cannot tell, or if they do not have a very obvious gender expression, it's they.

If it's a drag queen, it would depend on if they are trans outside of drag. Aka Carmen Carerra, Monica Beverly Hills, Sonique, and Kenya Michaels I would always refer to as her. I would only ever call a drag queen him outside of drag, or even in drag depending if they were out about their gender identity. Some queens I just call her because of their amazing talent of imitating the gender of being female, while identifying as cis.

Fresh Like Zafo
May 31, 2012



Saw this on another site, but does it ever ring true on what Laganja looked like in episode 7. That off center widow's peak kills me.



I'm really happy she's gone. Her affectations were really grating and it was kinda cathartic to see the rest of the queens call her out on it.

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Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Fresh Like Zafo posted:

I'm really happy she's gone. Her affectations were really grating and it was kinda cathartic to see the rest of the queens call her out on it.

I think Ru called it best when LaGanga was saying that she speaks like that all the time and everybody loves her, to which Ru said, "Girl, that's the night club." I'm sure on stage that worked great, especially with people knowing that she is Alyssa's daughter and Shangela's sister. Having to listen to somebody speak that way 24/7 isn't even the problem. It's just the way that LaGanga did it, it sounded so forced and fake. She just didn't seem like a genuine person, even to Adore who has known her for years.

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