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Bina
Dec 28, 2011

Love Deluxe
Party.

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FadedReality
Sep 5, 2007

Okurrrr?
Halfway through Season 3 watching all the Untucked episodes as we go. The editing is making this is the most insufferable group of people of all time. I love Raja on the Photo Ruview and Shangela on the Alyssa's Secret guest spots and I know who wins, but god drat I am praying for an alternate reality where they all go home and no one wins.

Carlton Banks Teller
Nov 17, 2004


notaspy posted:

I live in London, are there any you'd recommend?

Patron saint of this thread Willam is in Londan at G-A-Y on the 31st.

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.


FadedReality posted:

Halfway through Season 3 watching all the Untucked episodes as we go. The editing is making this is the most insufferable group of people of all time. I love Raja on the Photo Ruview and Shangela on the Alyssa's Secret guest spots and I know who wins, but god drat I am praying for an alternate reality where they all go home and no one wins.

Season 3... :suicide:

Thinking back on that year makes this season that much more magical. Someone described this season as the "Christian Siriano season of Project Runway" in that how can you ever improve on it?

CHiRAL
Mar 28, 2010

Anus.
Have a cast just as talented and delightful without trying to force shade through editing as if your life depended on it?

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.


Willam in some social media app commercial with Amanda Lapore, it's still funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8NQ-PSkYlg

Ghostpilot
Jun 21, 2007

"As a rule, I never touch anything more sophisticated and delicate than myself."

Pinwiz11 posted:

Willam in some social media app commercial with Amanda Lapore, it's still funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8NQ-PSkYlg

:allears: And goodness, I need to make it out to Tel Aviv someday!

CHiRAL
Mar 28, 2010

Anus.

Carlton Banks Teller posted:

There's been tension between Vicky and Willam for a few months, but the rumor I heard for what Detox's breaking point was involved Willam's recent Moovz gig in Israel. Apparently, the original booking request was for DWV, for not a lot of skrilla. William renegotiated it into a solo gig for a bit of a personal pay raise. Totally unsubstantiated, possibly false, but it's the "truest" sounding reason for the group split I've seen, since I take Vicky at her word that it's not a season 7 smokescreen faux-split.


Pinwiz11 posted:

Willam in some social media app commercial with Amanda Lapore, it's still funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8NQ-PSkYlg

^^^This is the Moovz gig in question btw
I'm Israeli so I online stalked the gently caress out of his trip here, he was having the time of his life.
Unfortunately I didn't go to pride week so I didn't see him perform/meet him. But I do have a picture of Willam with Dana International to feel double :3: about now!

Flyinglemur
Jul 2, 2004

Oh Lucy, I do apologize, I've been so terribly busy. Honestly, I barely have the time to drink deep and descend.



I'm also in the middle of Season 3, just watched the Patriotic PSA episode. When it aired did anyone call Shangela on her bullshit of "my mom fought in Iraq and Bosnia"? It might just be semantics but there were no female combatants for those two wars (Dessert Storm). She may have served there but it seemed like she was milking the angle is all.

Also I hate all these bitches.

Meow Cadet
May 2, 2007


friendship is magic
in a pony paradise
don't you judge me

Rich Radbards posted:

I'm also in the middle of Season 3, just watched the Patriotic PSA episode. When it aired did anyone call Shangela on her bullshit of "my mom fought in Iraq and Bosnia"? It might just be semantics but there were no female combatants for those two wars (Dessert Storm). She may have served there but it seemed like she was milking the angle is all.

Also I hate all these bitches.
For a second there I tried to rationalize it as maybe her 'drag mom' fought under don't ask don't tell. Then I remembered that Alyssa Edwards was her drag mother, and giggled at the thought of her in war.

Amykinz
May 6, 2007

Rich Radbards posted:

I'm also in the middle of Season 3, just watched the Patriotic PSA episode. When it aired did anyone call Shangela on her bullshit of "my mom fought in Iraq and Bosnia"? It might just be semantics but there were no female combatants for those two wars (Dessert Storm). She may have served there but it seemed like she was milking the angle is all.

Also I hate all these bitches.

Desert Storm. Not Dessert Storm. Even if there were no "official" female combatants, women still risked their lives in both of those wars, and women died from enemy actions and were kept as POWs. Even if they weren't direct infantry, it is common to say that you "fought" in a war if you were deployed in it.

http://chnm.gmu.edu/courses/rr/s01/cw/students/leeann/historyandcollections/collections/photopages/phespersgulf.html

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer
Oh man I want to fight in Operation Dessert Storm.

Bina
Dec 28, 2011

Love Deluxe

Trig Discipline posted:

Oh man I want to fight in Operation Dessert Storm.

Men, we're going to bravely endure 31 flavors tonight.

Flyinglemur
Jul 2, 2004

Oh Lucy, I do apologize, I've been so terribly busy. Honestly, I barely have the time to drink deep and descend.



Amykinz posted:

Desert Storm. Not Dessert Storm. Even if there were no "official" female combatants, women still risked their lives in both of those wars, and women died from enemy actions and were kept as POWs. Even if they weren't direct infantry, it is common to say that you "fought" in a war if you were deployed in it.

http://chnm.gmu.edu/courses/rr/s01/cw/students/leeann/historyandcollections/collections/photopages/phespersgulf.html

ssssssory I added an s there.


I feel differently. Having served in the military for a few years, there is a definite difference between "serving in" and "fighting in" a war. My comment was more about Shangela playing that card during that episode.

And yeah, I know women died during those conflicts.

angerbeet
Mar 23, 2004


I'm still on the "Alyssa Edwards in a war zone" thing.

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.


angerbot posted:

I'm still on the "Alyssa Edwards in a war zone" thing.

I'm picturing some kind of magical "Private Benjamin" type thing with the "Drop Dead Gorgeous" music playing underneath.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.

Pinwiz11 posted:

I'm picturing some kind of magical "Private Benjamin" type thing with the "Drop Dead Gorgeous" music playing underneath.


Patrols?

Amykinz
May 6, 2007

Rich Radbards posted:

ssssssory I added an s there.


I feel differently. Having served in the military for a few years, there is a definite difference between "serving in" and "fighting in" a war. My comment was more about Shangela playing that card during that episode.

And yeah, I know women died during those conflicts.

I was deployed to Iraq in 2003, I am a woman. I say I fought in OIF. I sat in the bunkers with mortars falling all over us just like the guys did. I drove through Fallujah just like the guys did. Do you automatically question a guy when he says he fought in a war too?

Flyinglemur
Jul 2, 2004

Oh Lucy, I do apologize, I've been so terribly busy. Honestly, I barely have the time to drink deep and descend.



Amykinz posted:

I was deployed to Iraq in 2003, I am a woman. I say I fought in OIF. I sat in the bunkers with mortars falling all over us just like the guys did. I drove through Fallujah just like the guys did. Do you automatically question a guy when he says he fought in a war too?

Sometimes, yes. I'm very involved with Vets and I am working with a guy right now who is claiming "Combat Stress" and he never deployed overseas so I question that, yes.

OIF, GWoT are different than DeSert Storm and Bosnia where the role of women in combat was MUCH less back then. I know a woman who was in a convoy that got hit and she had to be resuscitated and spent the better part of a year in Walter Reed recovering - and still has both physical and mental issues.

My original post was not about "DURR WOMINS DON'T FIGHT" and was more about Shangela being Shangela and possibly milking poo poo to "fit in" with the theme and the other girls who had ties to the military.

Amykinz
May 6, 2007

Rich Radbards posted:

My original post was not about "DURR WOMINS DON'T FIGHT" and was more about Shangela being Shangela and possibly milking poo poo to "fit in" with the theme and the other girls who had ties to the military.

This makes your point MUCH more clear. Thank you for clarifying. I get a lot of people who react with "well, women don't actually FIGHT in wars, you know" after they discover I'm a veteran,(especially if my personal politics disagree with theirs) so it's kinda a constant crusade to remind people that the insurgents didn't care (and often don't even know) what gender was under our uniforms. Your original post led me to believe you had issues with the actual statement of the mother fighting in the war, and not the general "me too!!!"-ness of Shangela.

Flyinglemur
Jul 2, 2004

Oh Lucy, I do apologize, I've been so terribly busy. Honestly, I barely have the time to drink deep and descend.



I (sadly) have a long off-topic story about how some idiot male vets actually believe that no women were ever harmed during any combat or combat-like actions. As a mental health counselor I have heard some horrific stories from female vets and I hate that you have to go through that.

Anyway gently caress Shangela. I'm on season 4 now and none of these bitches outside Latrice are worth a poo poo either. I'm kinda glad I started with season 6 because I got spoiled with Bianca.

Flyinglemur fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Jul 11, 2014

Ghostpilot
Jun 21, 2007

"As a rule, I never touch anything more sophisticated and delicate than myself."
Ran across this earlier and thought this would be a fitting place to link it:

Photographer provides and inside look at the stunning world of gender non-confirming.

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.


Because if you don't love yourself.... something RuPaul says.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kN-fUJZ-WI&t=223s (NSFW)




















goddammit

CHiRAL
Mar 28, 2010

Anus.
And the outtakes because never too much Willam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55bNyIhhOYw

FadedReality
Sep 5, 2007

Okurrrr?
I thought Season 3 was middling and the Reunion show was a far cry from later seasons. It was only once we got to the Snatch Game episode of Season 2 that we realized maybe watching each season in reverse order was a terrible mistake. Not only was it a lot rougher than later seasons but knowing Tyra Sanchez somehow wins while being the most boring and whiny queen of all seasons ever made it downright painful to watch. After that Snatch Game we decided to forego the rest of the season, watch the first episode of Season 1 for anthropological interest, and then skip straight to All Stars. I hope there's another All Stars after Season 7 and I hope Alaska and Adore get invited :allears:

Grape Juice Vampire
Aug 1, 2009
I just rewatched Season 5 for the first time since it aired. I've gotta say it's been my favorite season to date. Roxxxy is still a whiny baby, though. Next up, Season 4!

the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

What a week it's been.
So much to talk about.
And so many things we can't talk about.

Grape Juice Vampire posted:

I just rewatched Season 5 for the first time since it aired. I've gotta say it's been my favorite season to date. Roxxxy is still a whiny baby, though. Next up, Season 4!

Rolaskatoxx was so goddamn annoying, but if they didn't exist we wouldn't have had that wonderful moment from Alaska coming into the workroom and announcing "ALASKAAAA!" and seeing her come into her own was so :3:

CHiRAL
Mar 28, 2010

Anus.
Adore does Alaska :haw:

Also there is a sex tape of Milk and Courtney on Courtney's youtube channel :ssh:

BingeHooligan
Dec 24, 2010
:siren: WELCOME TO THE BEATDOWN :siren:

it's baaaack

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'M AT WORK





goddammit

Carlton Banks Teller
Nov 17, 2004



loving Willam. Reddit feedback got real negative (not needlessly so, but a bit nit-picky for a self-run show) and he replied with basically, "You're right, I didn't think of this stuff and I'll try to incorporate it for the next installment." Chad Micahels ain't the only professional, goddamnit. This is still so great, though, and I'm glad it's back.

Fresh Like Zafo
May 31, 2012



"Do you ever feel like, nothing is real?"

"Yeah, I was on Drag Race."

I am so happy this is back. Can anyone explain Joann Prada, because that video was... just what was that?

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
I desperately need a gif of the pink underwear kitchen twerk.

Mob
May 6, 2002

Me reading your posts

Rich Radbards posted:

I'm on season 4 now and none of these bitches outside Latrice are worth a poo poo either.

HOW DARE YOU


















goddamnit

Fresh Like Zafo
May 31, 2012



Episode 2 is up... goddamn it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSNQ6rqBo6c

curiousTerminal
Sep 2, 2011

what a humorous anecdote.
Apparently the lighting and backdrop will get better after episode 5, so says Willam on Facebook.

...Which means we're getting at LEAST 6 episodes :v:

CHiRAL
Mar 28, 2010

Anus.

Not Today Satan
Apr 18, 2007


YES! Thank you for this.

I've been trying to find the Untucked episodes for season 4 but they don't seem to be playing on Logo's website and they aren't available on Amazon. Does anyone know if there are other places to find these?

At first I completely ignored Untucked but the more I got to watching it the more I realized it really does tend to change how I view some of the participants; Willam in particular. I just need more Willam in my life.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Episode 3 is up and its, well, a bit poo poo. Everything needs to be short and snappy, that bit in the middle draggggggedddddd.

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Hey Girl
Sep 24, 2004
Alaska does Ice Buckets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12q8WOY-SLA

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