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don't update unless the software does it for you, there's a security issue, or you need a fix for a specific issue. recreational updating is a trap.
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heres my linux on the desktop gripe. my mic for some reason on my lappy hags a lot of static. so i turn down the noise thing or whatever in pulseaudio, then crank the output a bit. works fine. no static, voice souds good. but the changes never stick. i haveto check every time i boot it in audacity 2 see if theres static. and there always is. and i haveto redo the things. i dont understand. also it forgets that my mic is plugged in and i haveti unplug and replug it. wtf. what a fail
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Mar 6, 2015 19:25
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Mr Dog posted:and pacman is better than both of them but Arch does the whole rolling distro thing where they immediately delete old versions of their packages and MOOOOOM WRITING CHANGELOGS IS BORING Changelog: updated to version 3.4.1b the iOS app store has this issue too. every single app has "bugfixes and improvements' in the changelog. lazy fuckers.
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Mar 7, 2015 01:13
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Suspicious Dish posted:dnf is a lot better than yum. i believe fedora 22 is gonna have dnf be the default no one will miss yum, that thing has been a wreck since day one. it was a noble attempt but it was always slow and kinda buggy/frustrating. bugfrustrating.
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Mar 7, 2015 01:19
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my stepdads beer posted:Changelog: someone doesn't use awful app
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Smythe posted:heres my linux on the desktop gripe. my mic for some reason on my lappy hags a lot of static. so i turn down the noise thing or whatever in pulseaudio, then crank the output a bit. works fine. no static, voice souds good. but the changes never stick. i haveto check every time i boot it in audacity 2 see if theres static. and there always is. and i haveto redo the things. i dont understand. also it forgets that my mic is plugged in and i haveti unplug and replug it. wtf. what a fail Desktop linux is a piece of poo poo. Here to help.
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Mar 7, 2015 04:53
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i believe fedora 22 is gonna have dnf be the default ironically yum wasn't even invented by red hat. it was created by yellow dog linux, a semi obscure distribution which was more or less redhat ported to powerpc hardware. the yellowdog update manager was one of the few original things in ydl and it was better than nothing so i guess upstream adopted it
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iirc, warren togami took took yup and made yum, created fedora, and then red hat adopted fedora and replaced up2date with yum because somehow yum managed to be less terrible than up2date in spite of being terrible sysadmin python
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Mar 7, 2015 08:50
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I like yum because it is in centos and centos has never broken after updates which is a reaaly hard thing for most linixes
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Mar 7, 2015 09:57
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Captain Pike posted:I like yum because it is in centos and centos has never broken after updates which is a reaaly hard thing for most linixes and, weirdly enough, also windows these days
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Mar 7, 2015 09:58
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my stepdads beer posted:Changelog: I have a feeling popular apps are starting to do this to clear all the whinging in the app reviews because they're done per-version
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Mar 7, 2015 10:14
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hey batman your os is a pos debian wheezy
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Mar 7, 2015 12:10
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ahmeni posted:I have a feeling popular apps are starting to do this to clear all the whinging in the app reviews because they're done per-version p sure facebook is doing exactly this twitter's got a generic 'updates and reliability fixes' thing but even twitter's been adding new features and fixing poo poo every few 'updates' i couldn't tell you what facebook app has changed in the past year besides trying to yank messenger functionality VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Mar 7, 2015 |
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Mar 7, 2015 16:15
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ruby idiot railed posted:p sure facebook is doing exactly this it's odd because fb messenger updates still list actual changes, it's just the main app that pulls that bs
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Mar 7, 2015 16:58
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Facebook outright said that they release a patch every two weeks or so regardless of whatever issues there are
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Mar 7, 2015 17:06
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who reads app update info anyway, the apps just update themselves now. only nerds with too much time even consider looking at them so why be super descriptive
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Mar 7, 2015 17:18
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I know distrowatch is just one site but I have to wonder if mint is really as popular as it seems because it's far and away the top hit distro on there. do that many people actually use it?
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triple sulk posted:I know distrowatch is just one site but I have to wonder if mint is really as popular as it seems because it's far and away the top hit distro on there. do that many people actually use it? it seems to be the preferred distro for people who care about dekstop links distros
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Mar 7, 2015 17:41
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i consider linux mint to be the distro for people who wish windows xp was still alive
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Mar 7, 2015 19:37
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Captain Pike posted:I like yum because it is in centos and centos has never broken after updates which is a reaaly hard thing for most linixes i've had yum segfault during update on rhel. the fix is to yum install yum and the rhnplugin. which also crashes yum. it was a long day
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Mar 7, 2015 21:33
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Thankfully rhnplugin is not a thing in centos.
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Mar 7, 2015 21:37
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Rahu posted:Thankfully rhnplugin is not a thing in centos. unfortunately it is there exist people who think spacewalk is good and cool
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Mar 7, 2015 21:48
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Phoenixan posted:i consider linux mint to be the distro for people who wish windows xp was still alive its loving garbage
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Mar 7, 2015 21:50
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Wait i thought rhnplugin was just the thing that checked your red hat license before letting you download updates. Is that a different thing?
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Mar 7, 2015 21:56
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im trying a fedora live cd and lol gnome 3 is such a ripoff of os x. theres so many small annoying things that make it worse tho.
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Mar 7, 2015 23:48
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Rahu posted:Wait i thought rhnplugin was just the thing that checked your red hat license before letting you download updates. Is that a different thing? rhn and spacewalk use their own xmlrpc api to transfer metadata, download plugins etc. it sucks. spacewalk is literally red hat's rhn implementation open sourced. it's riddled with misfeatures for multi-tenancy. hell, a lot of the branding is still rhn
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i've had yum segfault during update on rhel. the fix is to yum install yum and the rhnplugin. which also crashes yum. 
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running gentoo on an acer with nvidia 840m binary blob just blackscreens in optimus mode unless i use kernel 3.17.7, which doesnt work well with my touchpad fortunately bumblebee seems to be stable and not too slow kernel status: tainted  but hey a recent game runs kinda ok i guess? 
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Mar 8, 2015 21:11
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"install gentoo" is a joke, it is not advisable to actually install gentoo
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Mar 8, 2015 21:15
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laptop burner dont work. crash. brasero crash. k3b crash. tried to install something called GnomeBake that i had to compile myself but it doesnt work on amd64 apparently. it actually did burn once. but only once. i have not been able to reproduce. piss. rear end. other computers with same distro and different burner work fine. sigh
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i think its a permissions thing. running the burner as root doesnt work either. idk boss. just, well, idk
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Symbolic Butt posted:how does these things compare to like the profits of steam actually SELLING games? guessing here, but it's probably the most depressing option
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bobbilljim posted:guessing here, but it's probably the most depressing option there's a reason the iOS App Store changed the install icon from FREE to GET 
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Symbolic Butt posted:how does these things compare to like the profits of steam actually SELLING games? valve takes like 30% of each game sold but 2% of each steam market transaction, they make a ton more on the latter
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Smythe posted:laptop burner dont work. crash. brasero crash. k3b crash. tried to install something called GnomeBake that i had to compile myself but it doesnt work on amd64 apparently. it actually did burn once. but only once. i have not been able to reproduce. piss. rear end. other computers with same distro and different burner work fine. sigh Sorry Smythe. u could look at dmesg if you know how and see if there is a low level error. might be the drive. U can get a usb dvd burner for like $20.
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have u tried using growisofs?
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Smnythe is using a burner laptop.... NSA CONFIRMED
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Crusader posted:running gentoo on an acer with nvidia 840m ubuntu actually found good drivers for my optimus setup (650m + 4500HD). linux compatibile games on steam actually ran pretty well.
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Does ubuntu actually use optimus now? I thought it just used the nvidia graphics and ignored intel.
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when i put linux on a laptop my hdmi ports didn't work unless i went just full gpu power
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