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bobbilljim posted:finally, if you want to compile poo poo arch linux is a good distro. there's no reason to use gentoo Mr Dog posted:Use arch nosl posted:while not being a piece of broken, vulnerable poo poo maintained by hipsters. Nice try
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Soricidus posted:ubuntu update: driven by the desperate need to have something, anything, that is not unity, I have been forced to give gnome 3 a proper chance and have discovered that it is in fact pretty good these days You know how Gnome 3 wanted to target tablet users?  Pictured: the target user of Gnome 4
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Soricidus posted:ubuntu update: driven by the desperate need to have something, anything, that is not unity, I have been forced to give gnome 3 a proper chance and have discovered that it is in fact pretty good these days
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nosl posted:broken, vulnerable poo poo maintained by hipsters. but enough about debian
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debian: why do one thing well when you can do three things poorly also let's neuter openssh's random number generator because apparently i know more about secure programming than the development team of one of the most security-critical programs in the world
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debian does all kinds of stupid poo poo. like replacing ffmpeg with avconv
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Mr Dog posted:debian: why do one thing well when you can do three things poorly uh the rng thing was in openssl, not openssh. we all know how that turned out not defending debian, but not defending openssl either
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Barnyard Protein posted:why isn't the little weird footprint logo everywhere though, like in the olde days? i miss that weird little foot print thing. why does the foot only have four toes?
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Last Chance posted:amazing that technically nextstep has completely dominated the pc market yes, it does amaze me that anyone is willing to buy nextstep
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Barnyard Protein posted:why isn't the little weird footprint logo everywhere though, like in the olde days? i miss that weird little foot print thing. there is actually a reason for this -- whenever we shoved a gnome logo anywhere, every single distribution and their mother would find a way to replace the logo with their own
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Suspicious Dish posted:there is actually a reason for this -- whenever we shoved a gnome logo anywhere, every single distribution and their mother would find a way to replace the logo with their own sad and terrible
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yea. so thats why its only in the control center on the info page where distributions still replace it with their own lovely logo
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Suspicious Dish posted:there is actually a reason for this -- whenever we shoved a gnome logo anywhere, every single distribution and their mother would find a way to replace the logo with their own should've just made use of the logo and trademark part of the license
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stallman only cares about a foot if there is some toe jam to pick out of it
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Barnyard Protein posted:stallman only cares about a foot if there is some toe jam to pick out of it disgusting
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eschaton posted:should've just made use of the logo and trademark part of the license i'm struggling to understand what you even mean here
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if u think about it foot cheese is gratis and libre becasue you know the source and its free
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Suspicious Dish posted:i'm struggling to understand what you even mean here to use the code you'd have to say your thing is based on gnome and keep the gnome logo intact anywhere it appears you know, the typical contractual poo poo that comes with the territory for managing a brand, just for some open source software
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Korean Boomhauer posted:if u think about it foot cheese is gratis and libre becasue you know the source and its free I know someone who, while cutting his lawn barefoot in the Pacific Northwest, noticed his feet were going numb just think, he could've cultivated that poo poo into some magic foot fungus
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eschaton posted:to use the code you'd have to say your thing is based on gnome and keep the gnome logo intact anywhere it appears wouldn't be "free" enough for linux, they'd just stop shipping your code at all the best you could do would be whatever firefox did that made debian pull their ridiculous iceweasel poo poo
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Soricidus posted:wouldn't be "free" enough for linux, they'd just stop shipping your code at all yeah it was exactly that. debian included firefox but without using the mozilla logos or something.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:why does the foot only have four toes? Fifth toe removed for a mushroom patch
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:why does the foot only have four toes? it's gimp'ed
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you can change the default icon and still have the foot in Mate, I have the foot on mine. if that's the killer app you can't do without
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Barnyard Protein posted:im trying to remember the last time i had to compile source code and i think it was in 2001 to get mozilla to run on solaris 8 x86 i gotta compile stuff on the regular for work b/c we vendorize a lot of our dependencies for cross-platform things and im sick of it (also random academic software)
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eschaton posted:to use the code you'd have to say your thing is based on gnome and keep the gnome logo intact anywhere it appears it's free software and we can't add additional stipulations to it, because the gpl says you can't additional stipulations firefox did a similar thing but it's backwards -- "in order to use the firefox logo, you can't patch random software and call it firefox"
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Suspicious Dish posted:i'm struggling to understand what you even mean here lol
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What happened to the Valve’s optimizations make Linux port of L4D2 outperform Windows version? Is Windows 10 actually faster than 7?
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nosl posted:Nice try sounds like you want to use centos, or maybe fedora. the cool thing is you can also compile anything you like manually on any distro (if you want to forgo security and ease of use)
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i have been using fedora on my t450s for java development for the past few days and it is extremely needs suiting. "it just works". the audio works, the minidisplay-port works, the dock ports work. i had to update the wifi firmware for stability issues, but that was pretty simple. it even came pre-installed with `openconnect` so that i can vpn into work's git server / jira / confluence. the only real linux knowledge i've needed so far is basic shell stuff, and `dnf install <whatever>`. pretty nice.
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Cardboard Box A posted:http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/11/ars-benchmarks-show-significant-performance-hit-for-steamos-gaming/ steamos ships with ancient nvidia drivers for some reason
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MrMoo posted:What happened to the Valve’s optimizations make Linux port of L4D2 outperform Windows version? Is Windows 10 actually faster than 7? Turns out Valve's GL port was incomplete. When they fixed a few bugs to approach parity with D3D, framerate dropped. Most of this is NVIDIA's GL driver being absolute poo poo, and in some sense, GL being absolute poo poo as well.
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MrMoo posted:What happened to the Valve’s optimizations make Linux port of L4D2 outperform Windows version? Is Windows 10 actually faster than 7? my initial thought is that the Windows games are faster due to the Windows versions of the GPU drivers entirely overriding their rendering pipelines, as they do I'd expect the performance to be comparable if you could somehow defeat this, people doing benchmarking should really be tracing/disassembling the drivers to get numbers both with and without
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well duh of course the toy os for babies is better for playing children's games than the serious os for grown-ups with work to do, im not sure why this is news
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what is the point of steam os now that windows 8 and the windows app store are dead
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insurance for Microsoft's next attempt or a hedge against the inevitable failure of the Windows platform
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valve wants to be in a microsoft-like position of power and push hw and gpu vendors around it's not really working tho
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eschaton posted:my initial thought is that the Windows games are faster due to the Windows versions of the GPU drivers entirely overriding their rendering pipelines, as they do So Windows drivers entirely overriding game code driver pipeline wasn't a factor when Linux on the desktop was beating Windows but suddenly is a factor when Windows beats Linux? Sounds legit.
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