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pseudorandom name posted:insurance for Microsoft's next attempt There is too much institutional knowledge and infrastructure to support windows game development that seriously planning otherwise would be a waste of time. Literally it would take decades to erode the ecosystem to a point where new devs stop considering windows as a candidate platform to learn the craft and tool makers stop optimizing for windows. If they are going to make a new push for more revenue from gaming, it will be for phones. I think Valve is just hedging their bets and making sure that OpenGL has a place on the consumer desktop, particularly the Vulkan API. Apple is already trying to build out their new graphics API so I doubt they're seriously going to keep OpenGL up to date and optimized on their platform.
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celeron 300a posted:I think Valve is just hedging their bets and making sure that OpenGL has a place on the consumer desktop, particularly the Vulkan API. Apple is already trying to build out their new graphics API so I doubt they're seriously going to keep OpenGL up to date and optimized on their platform. vulkan will probably be very attractive to developers due to spir-v if nothing else. the api itself basically works the same way as dx12, but spir-v is so much nicer than the undocumented d3d9-era 'everything is a vec4' bytecode that dx12 still uses.
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celeron 300a posted:I think Valve is just hedging their bets and making sure that OpenGL has a place on the consumer desktop, particularly the Vulkan API. Apple is already trying to build out their new graphics API so I doubt they're seriously going to keep OpenGL up to date and optimized on their platform.
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can't help but think of vulcan as being yet another valve project that will take 3 too many years
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Phoenixan posted:can't help but think of vulcan as being yet another valve project that will take 3 too many years in 5 years we'll be as far away from hl2 ep 2 as duke nukem forever was from its original release date when it was released
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computer parts posted:in 5 years we'll be as far away from hl2 ep 2 as duke nukem forever was from its original release date when it was released also we're farther in time now from Pretty Hate Machine than it was from Sgt. Pepper
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we are farther away from hl2 ep2 than the gap from half life 1 to 2
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Wild EEPROM posted:we are farther away from hl2 ep2 than the gap from half life 1 to 2 wow
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n+1 the year of half-life 3 on the desktop
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Phoenixan posted:n+1 the year of half-life 3 on the I remember when people were making GBS threads on each other over HDR rendering in half life 2ep1. Now valve has their source 2 engine with vulkan and VR someone is waiting for their technology to sit still for a moment so they can stop scrapping the current HL3 work to take advantage of shiny new rendering tech computer parts posted:in 5 years we'll be as far away from hl2 ep 2 as duke nukem forever was from its original release date when it was released What did 3D realms release after DNF? Admittedly, not much. What did Valve release after HL2ep2? Left 4 Dead 1 and 2 (although they just published the former), Portal 2, Dota 2, additions for TF2, CS:GO, and so on. Big games with big returns. I wouldn't be surprised if they come out with another series or just spent their time on steam box and DotA2, and the HL series will just be a long running gag where they promise something big but never nail down any specifics.
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Valve has no financial incentives to make hl3. And like, can you imagine a hl3 with light rpg mechanics and cheevos..? It would be bad. But can you imagine a shooter in 2016 without them? It would not be popular. Half life would be super dated and the only way to release a successful half life 3 would be to release a super revolutionary game. We may be past the point where releasing a groundbreaking fps is an achievable goal, even for valve DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Nov 18, 2015 |
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Phoenixan posted:can't help but think of vulcan as being yet another valve project that will take 3 too many years microsoft leaked some pending nvidia drivers with vulkan support via windows update so it's probably not too far off. the final spir-v spec was quietly released a few days ago too.
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:Valve has no financial incentives to make hl3. why cant they just make a badass fun game where your a science nerd named morgan freeman and you hit things and save the earth and stuff or something
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Lol if you would rather play HL3 instead of the new unreal tournament 
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Last Chance posted:why cant they just make a badass fun game where your a science nerd named morgan freeman and you hit things and save the earth and stuff or something because the half life story and universe is not particularly interesting. half life is only notable because with each release, it advances gaming considerably. a half life that does not revolutionize video games is not a half life game, it's just a game with a science nerd named milton friedman hitting things.
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iirc they also kinda wrote themsevles into a corner by crossing together the stories of hl2e2 and portal 1 -- part of the resistance is going after tech on the borealis, a aperture science boat that disappeared out of dry dock, that i think you may encounter the dry dock of in portal 2 then from what i could tell they realized they didnt really want to do this but are stuck with it to at least some degree
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:because the half life story and universe is not particularly interesting. half life is only notable because with each release, it advances gaming considerably. they still need a game to market their VR goggles. a dumb ole FPS might just be the thing
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i think valve has a large portfolio of games that would be better used for pushing vr thing sales. If you believe the narrative that gaben actually cares about things, he won't make half life 3 unless it's actually gonna be great, which is why it will never happen
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even if he doesn't give a poo poo, using half life to hawk vr headsets is just gonna piss off nerds. why do that when you can just release left3Dead and make just as much money and not piss off nerds
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Phoenixan posted:can't help but think of vulcan as being yet another valve project that will take 3 too many years the initial press release was in march it has not even been one year
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Remember, Vulkan is literally Mantle with the gr prefix changed to vk, a different shader IR and some small changes to make it multi-vendor. Valve is basically uninvolved. Less involved than Google, even, now that Vulkan is the replacement 3D API for Android. SPIR-V and the OpenCL extensions for SPIR-V were finalized a couple days ago; the GLSL 4.5 SPIR-V extension is still in draft; Vulkan itself is still in (secret) draft. pseudorandom name fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Nov 19, 2015 |
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just came in here to say i have been using linux (ubuntu) continuously as my main desktop since about 2008
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half life 3 is going to have the steam controller and epic 3d occulus technology and its going to have inner ear earbuds that stimulate motion things so you feel te power of gordon piloting the epic planes from halo and its going to pwn. GORDON FREEMAN FTW!!! HALF LIFE FTW!!!!
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FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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is that fake factory dude still making photoshop sharpened hl2 textures and really creepy alyx models
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computer parts posted:is that fake factory dude still making photoshop sharpened hl2 textures and really creepy alyx models Gordon Freeman would fuckin bust your rear end with his epic crowbar for making such a nerdy post
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quivering acne riddled failtard nerdlinger: errrrmm.. ewww... ugghhh.. is the creepy guy still making sexy alyx photoshops?? *gordon busts in on a sick physics launcher and instagibs you with the crowbar and its got no backswing timer so its liek BRNGBRNGBRNGBRNGBRNGBRNGBRNGBRNGBRNG and the gibs fly everywhere and gordon hookshots to the gibs and gibes them even more*
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Smythe posted:half life 3 is going to have the steam controller and epic 3d occulus technology and its going to have inner ear earbuds that stimulate motion things so you feel te power of gordon piloting the epic planes from halo and its going to pwn. GORDON FREEMAN FTW!!! HALF LIFE FTW!!!! same but just keyboard/mouse/monitor for me thanks I'm too old for controllers and vr and tactile feedback and etc if I have to drag or tap or rub or pinch or flick or tickle a touchpad to play the latest fps I am gonna just stick with WoW thank you very much
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School of How posted:just came in here to say i have been using linux (ubuntu) continuously as my main desktop since about 2008 lol noob
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i've been doin this poo poo since back when people said "year of linux on the desktop" unironically (but only on slashdot)
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i had to install a linux to have a halfway sane dev environment so i guess 2015 really is the year of linux on (my work) desktop.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i've been doin this poo poo since back when people said "year of linux on the desktop" unironically (but only on slashdot) funny, thought you were older I used MINIX because 386BSD wasn't even a thing yet, much less Linux it was rather nice on a fast 25MHz 68030 with 5MB of RAM, given it was designed for a 4.77MHz 8088 with 256KB (at least once you rebuilt the system with long filename support and installed GCC)
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:Half life would be super dated and the only way to release a successful half life 3 would be to release a super revolutionary game. We may be past the point where releasing a groundbreaking fps is an achievable goal, even for valve i havent seen the fps stuff involving source 2 yet but going by what little i know they're gonna have to wait until source 4 or 5 before they can make something approaching groundbreaking
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valve fixed the entire drat pc gaming industry with steam, that's all they need to worry about now
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ahmeni posted:we used to buy games in physical boxes it was like buying porno tapes from an adult store; racks and shelves of these boxes that were way bigger than their contents, decorated with pictures that did not accurately represent the contents and text that did not accurately describe the product
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