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pseudorandom name posted:Valve is basically uninvolved. Less involved than Google, even, now that Vulkan is the replacement 3D API for Android. they've been sponsoring lunarg to build the reference intel linux driver, the the api loader, the cross-platform debugger and the lunarxchange support site. basically it's thanks to valve that vulkan will have good tools and support from day 1.
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prefect posted:it was like buying porno tapes from an adult store; racks and shelves of these boxes that were way bigger than their contents, decorated with pictures that did not accurately represent the contents and text that did not accurately describe the product now you can buy pornos on steam http://store.steampowered.com/tag/en/Visual%20Novel/#p=0&tab=NewReleases
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:steamos ships with ancient nvidia drivers for some reason all the games they tested are ancient tho so its fine. the problem is opengl blows and Linux blows.
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celeron 300a posted:There is too much institutional knowledge and infrastructure to support windows game development that seriously planning otherwise would be a waste of time. Literally it would take decades to erode the ecosystem to a point where new devs stop considering windows as a candidate platform to learn the craft and tool makers stop optimizing for windows. windows is the primary development platform for all games so it would make no sense to ever not deliver windows versions of your games.
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I'm Patrick Volkerding's autograph
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I remember buying a SuSE distro with 5 cds and a big manual. That app were the eyes follow your mouse pointer really mesmerized me.
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lol if you didn't start with zip slack on umsdos
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pram posted:what is the point of steam os now that windows 8 and the windows app store are dead I think to get people on their autist 'I still like games but LINUCKZ IS SO MCH BTTAR THN WIND0ze GUYZ' phase to keep buying games before eating a few bad ports and realizing that 99% of videogames are bad.
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nosl posted:videogames are bad. i forget this every once in a while and end up playing a video game. i like the ones where you just press a button on a box and then the video game pops up.
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Barnyard Protein posted:i forget this every once in a while and end up playing a video game. i like the ones where you just press a button on a box and then there's a mandatory 1.4GB firmware patch to download and then you install that and you have to reboot your gaming device which is totally not lame like a computer with all those updates and viruses and stuff and wait for it to apply and then you have to navigate past the link to the store where you can spend your money!! to the menu option where you actually play the game on your gaming device as intended and then you get a bunch of unskippable publisher and developer logo screens because muh ~*magical brand engagement experience*~ and then there's a title screen that just says "Press Start" and then it has to connect to the ShitBird Games(R) Cool Kids Club server and then load some more poo poo because we certainly couldn't have done that before the title screen and then the video game pops up
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pseudorandom name posted:lol if you didn't start with zip slack on umsdos 
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mike12345 posted:I remember buying a SuSE distro with 5 cds and a big manual. That app were the eyes follow your mouse pointer really mesmerized me. 
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Nov 19, 2015 21:52
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remember even you coul order Ubuntu CDs and they would mail you a hundred at a time
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now make the eyes follow the bike
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broken clock opsec posted:now make the eyes follow the bike it only does it when i has focus in osx so nope
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Nov 19, 2015 23:40
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Shaggar posted:all the games they tested are ancient tho so its fine. the problem is opengl blows and Linux blows. all old graphics apis are raging dumpster fires. the dx drivers just have more people trying to keep the fire under control.
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The_Franz posted:all old graphics apis are raging dumpster fires. the dx drivers just have more people trying to roast marshmallows
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who is that signature? i can't read cursive
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:who is that signature? i can't read cursive it's the literal next post lmarfo
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My first linux was a Slackware 1.2.13 on an 80mb partition in a 486dx66.
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ahmeni posted:it only does it when i has focus in osx so nope Wow thanks Steve, xeyes works great on Fedora 22
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my first linux was slackware that i got from a used bookstore. then some really difficult to setup thing on an old 90's imac. powerpc linux or something crazy like that, i want to say mandrake? but who knows.
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moonshine is...... posted:my first linux was slackware that i got from a used bookstore. then some really difficult to setup thing on an old 90's imac. powerpc linux or something crazy like that, i want to say mandrake? but who knows. probably yellow dog linux since that was the main distribution targeted at powerpc and powermacs, although other options were available. it was basically "red hate, but ported to ppc" and it's lasting contribution back to mainstream red hate was the yum tool before ydl was a thing, linux on powermac had two options iirc. one was mklinux, a weird linux/mach hybrid kernel with standard userland. the other was downloading shitloads of files by hand and hacking poo poo and getting kernels from paul mackerras (aussie dude who led the port to ppc). fun times, better be ready to submit kernel patches if you want it to not crash on your machine
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MkLinux was cool, I have the book on the shelf in my office next to the OpenDoc and Cyberdog books you could run it as either a colocated kernel with Mach and Linux both in the kernel address space, or with Linux as a separate task and a peer to user processes running them colocated added about 10% overhead because every Linux syscall became a mach_msg that's pretty close to what CMU found when they did the same thing using BSD almost a decade previously and that's why pretty much every system built on Mach makes the microkernel and kernel coresident: you still get all the other Mach advantages, without the performance hit that nBSD mistakenly thinks every Mach-based system takes
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Mr Dog posted:all those other advantages of microkernels such as we hold these truths to be self evident,
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Mr Dog posted:all those other advantages of microkernels such as decent in-kernel IPC beyond what UNIX domain sockets afford, including an extensible port namespace, flexible privileges under the service's control, zero-copy sends, and on-demand execution real kernel threads at a time lots of systems still required entirely user-level threads packages (including Linux, with its hilariously awful "clone a whole process to make a thread" scheme that combined the worst of user-level and kernel threads into one steaming pile) a very flexible abstraction for memory objects used not just for zero-copy mapping but also useful for things like, say, a window server that needs to safely share memory with an I/O device and client applications the ability to use IPC and threads and dynamic memory allocation in-kernel, which will let you push some functionality to user level while still maintaining a syscall interface to them for clients (for example, directory services, security management, file systems, device drivers)
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eschaton posted:decent in-kernel IPC beyond what UNIX domain sockets afford, including an extensible port namespace, flexible privileges under the service's control, zero-copy sends, and on-demand execution kdbus quote:real kernel threads at a time lots of systems still required entirely user-level threads packages (including Linux, with its hilariously awful "clone a whole process to make a thread" scheme that combined the worst of user-level and kernel threads into one steaming pile) any mainstream kernel from 2001 onwards quote:a very flexible abstraction for memory objects used not just for zero-copy mapping but also useful for things like, say, a window server that needs to safely share memory with an I/O device and client applications memfd, dma-buf quote:the ability to use IPC and threads and dynamic memory allocation in-kernel, which will let you push some functionality to user level while still maintaining a syscall interface to them for clients (for example, directory services, security management, file systems, device drivers) this paragraph is incoherent. one does not follow from the other.
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