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Notorious b.s.d. posted:I have actually posted to the forums from one of these, no joke. IE5 for unix tm was p. fast b.s.d do you have grey beard?
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:yospos is such a dumbfuck apple echo chamber that it even shits up the linux thread You, on the other hand, know nothing and continue to flaunt that wherever you go.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:I have actually posted to the forums from one of these, no joke. IE5 for unix tm was p. fast counterpoint: CDE
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:folks who, by definition, do not understand what a unix desktop is for have Very Strong Opinions about unix desktops You mean Lennart Poettering and every systemd supporter, right?
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I don't really see YOSPOS as an apple echo chamber as much as just spewing bile on every OS. The funny thing is, in my opinion, is that Google's Chromebook might be the true Linux desktop. The masses will all have one of them, running web apps or chromebook apps or whatever. It will run the Linux kernel, but will not have any of the so-called "user freedoms" that RMS dearly wants. And users won't care. Except the jailbreaking bunch. Fix the internet access issue and maybe 2016 will be the year of the Linux desktop.
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Sudo Echo posted:counterpoint: CDE
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:yospos is such a dumbfuck apple echo chamber that it even shits up the linux thread I was wondering at what point you would be so kind as to succinctly define why you are such a colossal tool
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tbf yospos is such a dumbfuck
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reminder that notorious BSD loves emacs which makes all his angry posts about usability and UI even more funny
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kittenkicker posted:YOSPOS ... spewing bile on every OS. U DON'T FUCKIN SAY
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ahmeni posted:I was wondering at what point you would be so kind as to succinctly define why you are such a colossal tool i work with unix, it's an unavoidable consequence
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Sudo Echo posted:counterpoint: CDE Soricidus posted:why are you trying to prove solaris was bad by giving examples of good features? cde was actually pretty ok to use. beats the pants off gnome 3. it really sucked to write software for it though. gently caress motif forever. no one misses that poo poo code:
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gnome 3 actually owns fyi they are just copying os x and its great
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infernal machines posted:b.s.d do you have grey beard? nope
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:cde was actually pretty ok to use. beats the pants off gnome 3. yeah that looks "pretty ok" lmao
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free software is supposed to unite us in song, not tear us apart!
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slip proof stairs posted:free software is supposed to unite us in song, not tear us apart! free software is literally fork you got mine
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i claim that tcl/tk was like peak unix but then didn't get replaced by anything equally cleverly simplistic-toolboxy
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that's a shame, it would really suit your posting persona
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:yospos is such a dumbfuck apple echo chamber that it even shits up the linux thread u know this is yospos and so this isnt a thread for ppl to enjoy lunix right
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theadder posted:u know this is yospos and so this isnt a thread for ppl to enjoy lunix right lol @ knowing things
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time to establish some indisputable facts itt: tcl/tk is good. emacs is good and also more user-friendly than poo poo like eclipse. and cde, while deeply flawed and abandoned shortly after birth, was still better in many ways than os x, ms windows, gnome, or kde are today. this is yospos so i'm sure someone will ironically pretend to disagree with the above, but we all know it's true.
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Soricidus posted:time to establish some indisputable facts itt: tcl/tk is good. emacs is good and also more user-friendly than poo poo like eclipse. and cde, while deeply flawed and abandoned shortly after birth, was still better in many ways than os x, ms windows, gnome, or kde are today. some good posting right here
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Soricidus posted:time to establish some indisputable facts itt: tcl/tk is good. emacs is good and also more user-friendly than poo poo like eclipse. and cde, while deeply flawed and abandoned shortly after birth, was still better in many ways than os x, ms windows, gnome, or kde are today. I've never used any of these therefore I assume they are poo poo
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Captain Foo posted:I've never used any of these therefore I assume they are poo poo i have never written or deployed software on unix before, but as an owner of an apple device i can say without any qualification that osx is the ideal unix software development platform
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The real question is what real person needs a Unix on the desktop
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Captain Foo posted:I've never used any of these therefore I assume they are poo poo you are correct. they were stillborn for a reason (they were poo poo)
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emacs. god lol, it's been a while since i've ran into someone who deals with that garbage.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:some idiots who have nfc are 100% certain that you should use a lovely 1980s unix from a consumer electronics vendor to do unix software development certainly way better than any of the alternatives, and it's so cute you like to pretend OS X is somehow stuck in 1988 when there are significant updates at every level of the stack annually it's certainly nothing like that Solaris or Irix poo poo, though they were still better in their day than Linux today
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Last Chance posted:emacs. god lol, it's been a while since i've ran into someone who deals with that garbage. better than vi if you need to do anything more than make a quick edit to a config file of course if you really need to do any significant writing in a terminal window you're doing something wrong (lol at the cult of vi that sprung up among the ruby-node hipster crowd)
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eschaton posted:certainly way better than any of the alternatives, and it's so cute you like to pretend OS X is somehow stuck in 1988 when there are significant updates at every level of the stack annually Solaris is still alive. and still better than osx
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eschaton posted:better than vi if you need to do anything more than make a quick edit to a config file hey guess what you can use arguments against both vi and emacs interchangeably because the actual difference between them is only something people who dont do any real work care about
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:Solaris is still alive. and still better than osx yes and lol no
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ahmeni posted:yes and lol no linux was crap in the 90s and everyone knew it. back then osx didn't even merit "crap," it was a historical curiosity since then linux has been completely rewritten. 2.6 was a whole new ballgame. osx is still a curio out of someone's cabinet of deformed fetuses it's not just the freakish chimera kernel. UserLand is a mess. Every time I deal with brew or Xcode click through licensing I get awful flashbacks
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eschaton posted:certainly way better than any of the alternatives, and it's so cute you like to pretend OS X is somehow stuck in 1988 when there are significant updates at every level of the stack annually still garbage Mach still riddled with weird bsd tools still ships with a proprietary compiler still doesn't have a package system every Sun Microsystems sin and awkward hack of the 1980s, haunting us in 2014
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:still garbage Mach what
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ahmeni posted:hey guess what you can use arguments against both vi and emacs interchangeably because the actual difference between them is only something people who dont do any real work care about
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basically the reason osx is bad at being linux is because it isn't linux
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Wild EEPROM posted:basically the reason osx is bad at being linux is because it isn't linux solaris and irix were mentioned up-thread and somehow they manage to have none of these problems. it's almost like they are up to date with 1990s technology irix hasn't been updated regularly since 2005 and it's still a much more "modern" system in all the ways that should count. it's so legacy it's discontinued and it still makes osx look like a joke
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ahmeni posted:hey guess what you can use arguments against both vi and emacs interchangeably because the actual difference between them is only something people who dont do any real work care about this is something a vi user would say
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