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https://github.com/trunkmaster/nextspace/issues/228
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The_Franz posted:attn mods: posts from 2008 are somehow being mixed in with current ones please look into it mods im also getting this, debug output attached: BobHoward posted:disabling selinux, which breaks all kinds of things out of the box, is cool and good
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mystes posted:Yes, that's definitely the reason this is crazy. i don't begrudge people their nostalgia-driven hobbies, I'm just saying at least use Swift or something so you don't hate every moment of your existence.
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Sapozhnik posted:i don't begrudge people their nostalgia-driven hobbies, I'm just saying at least use Swift or something so you don't hate every moment of your existence. think about the extremely hairy C library interactions a window manager requires i wouldn't want to deal with that in swift
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i'm not sure what kind of person would even bother with 3d on linux if they are allergic to proprietary drivers Did you forget the discussion we had 6 or so months ago where everybody showed you that AMD works great with the vanilla kernel and this line of thought you keep spewing is utter horseshit?
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BobHoward posted:disabling selinux, which breaks all kinds of things out of the box, is cool and good BobHoward posted:selinux is a good idea implemented incredibly poorly Also incorrect.
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edit* Double post.
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ratbert90 posted:Did you forget the discussion we had 6 or so months ago where everybody showed you that AMD works great with the vanilla kernel and this line of thought you keep spewing is utter horseshit? protondb disagrees
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:think about the extremely hairy C library interactions a window manager requires you can literally just include c library headers into a swift program
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psiox posted:good news, nerds, linux finally has a great desktop window manager https://github.com/trunkmaster/nextspace but can it run quakeed
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:protondb disagrees Feel free to provide actual proof.
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is a ratbert like a lambert
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ratbert90 posted:Feel free to provide actual proof. pick a game, any game, look for red dots, note "amd graphics"
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rjmccall posted:you can literally just include c library headers into a swift program last i checked swift got made about things like unions the x libraries are extremely bad and hairy
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ratbert90 posted:Did you forget the discussion we had 6 or so months ago where everybody showed you that AMD works great with the vanilla kernel and this line of thought you keep spewing is utter horseshit? haha, yeah, "everybody". and for that matter, haha, yeah, "discussion".
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i remember it, and ratbert is right. nbsd is searching protondb for anecdotes so he can protect his amd-drivers-will-always-be-bad-forever mantra
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:think about the extremely hairy C library interactions a window manager requires You literally need 0% C in a window manager. I've written programs that talked to the X server through an X11 implementation in Common Lisp. And even if there's no X11 client protocol implementation in your language, the Xlib functions are pretty FFI-friendly. I've wrapped many of them in Haskell. And the point of XCB is that you can generate the client code based on XML descriptions of the protocol, although I'm not sure anyone did (except libxcb itself). Accessing it in not-C is probably one of the few things that X11 does OK.
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Athas posted:You literally need 0% C in a window manager. I've written programs that talked to the X server through an X11 implementation in Common Lisp. Why the hell would you do *any* of this?
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James Baud posted:Why the hell would you do *any* of this? I have a similar question regarding your post history
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Tankakern posted:i remember it, and ratbert is right. nbsd is searching protondb for anecdotes so he can protect his amd-drivers-will-always-be-bad-forever mantra I remember NBSD also comparing TI2080s to RX580s and using that as proof that AMD is worse than Nvidia.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:pick a game, any game, look for red dots, note "amd graphics" Ah the ol: “I make a claim and then have you provide evidence”tactic.
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this is fun, can we do x11 forwarding vs wayland again next
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I'm sure that the next will be somebody claiming they got wifi or printing working on Linux. lol, or sound.
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amd drivers were absolute dogshit two years ago, and i will not bother doing a lengthy new experiment on the guarantees from the kinds of posters who claimed btrfs was production-ready twenty huge data loss bugs ago. if it hurts you badly to hear someone say your os is a pos (whether super-factual in every particular or not) you may have continued troubles ahead. e: and hopefully they are indeed improving briskly. the bigger thing is of course the continued (and arguably increasing) irrelevance of linux on the desktop, but that's way more depressing than poking fun at details. Cybernetic Vermin fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Feb 13, 2020 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:amd drivers were absolute dogshit two years ago, and i will not bother doing a lengthy new experiment on the guarantees from the kinds of posters who claimed btrfs was production-ready twenty huge data loss bugs ago. To be fair, I have never advocated for BTRFS. It loving sucks. Edit: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-54-radeon&num=3 FlapYoJacks fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Feb 13, 2020 |
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ah, bring up the btrfs-is-never-production-ready meme too, the perfect trifecta
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klafbang posted:I'm sure that the next will be somebody claiming they got wifi or printing working on Linux. lol, or sound. sound? never heard of it
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klafbang posted:I'm sure that the next will be somebody claiming they got wifi or printing working on Linux. lol, or sound. Wifi and printing sure. But let's not go crazy with the sound thing.
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James Baud posted:Why the hell would you do *any* of this? Misspent youth. I even ended up designing an entire programming language for writing small X11 tools before I realised how crazy it was getting. I now compensate by focusing solely on GPUs that do not have monitors attached at all.
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are fonts on linux better than on windows because theyre v bad on windows
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poty posted:are fonts on linux better than on windows because theyre v bad on windows not really, but there is some measure of taste involved. the correct solution to fonts is a hidpi screen, pretty much all font rendering looks pretty much the same with enough pixels to work with. unless truly hilariously broken.
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Athas posted:You literally need 0% C in a window manager. I've written programs that talked to the X server through an X11 implementation in Common Lisp. unfortunately if you want to do any GL, the GLX/EGL bindings are based around Xlib's Display*, so you're stuck using Xlib. Athas posted:And even if there's no X11 client protocol implementation in your language, the Xlib functions are pretty FFI-friendly. I've wrapped many of them in Haskell. And the point of XCB is that you can generate the client code based on XML descriptions of the protocol, although I'm not sure anyone did (except libxcb itself). unfortunately it sacrifices this by making it terrible to access in C. my favorite is all the 32-bit data that's passed as "unsigned long*" which can't be changed for ABI reasons, so if you ever deal with pixel data from Xlib you have to write a copy loop to copy it from 64-bit back to 32-bit lol libxcb is weird and has its own problems too... they made error handling worse, for some reason.
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those systemd / at what cost unix talks were great i think i read them in this thread
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finally, somebody said the magic word "systemd", now I can shitpost about systemd again
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systemd is a great: - init system - cron replacement - container manager - it's an OK mount manager I guess systemd is a loving terrible: - logging framework - dbus - dns resolver - login manager - home directory manager - hostname manager - network manager - time/date manager unfortunately distros basically turn systemd into an all-or-nothing choice, and the "all" keeps getting bigger and more lovely Poopernickel fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Feb 13, 2020 |
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does anyone know a good ubuntu based distro using systemd+wayland+btrfs that runs well on amd cards?
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Zlodo posted:does anyone know a good ubuntu based distro using systemd+wayland+btrfs that runs well on amd cards? It's Ubuntu, op! You won't even need to disable selinux.
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Zlodo posted:does anyone know a good ubuntu based distro using systemd+wayland+btrfs that runs well on amd cards? Fedora friend. Never use Ubuntu.
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last time I checked, ubuntu had better default font smoothing than fedora. like last year ago.
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ratbert90 posted:Fedora friend. Never use Ubuntu. it even supports btrfs in the installer, never choose lvm on a desktop
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