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ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus


Barracuda Bang! posted:

Heads: use 'em or lose 'em

Now where did that video of the dudes using 3 heads as soccer balls go?

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Sax Offender
Sep 9, 2007



College Slice

ded posted:

Now where did that video of the dudes using 3 heads as soccer balls go?

I really object to that. I'm pretty sure you only use 2 balls in soccer.

chemosh6969
Jul 3, 2004

code:
cat /dev/null > /etc/professionalism

I am in fact a massive asswagon.
Do not let me touch computer.


Sounds like ISIS got a little to big for their britches and Iraq/Iran have been taking cities back.

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001


Derek Dominoe posted:

I really object to that. I'm pretty sure you only use 2 balls in soccer.

That's why Lance Armstrong rode bikes.

bloops
Dec 30, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!


I hate the military because it's directly responsible for the creation of the Oath Keepers.

Nostalgia4ColdWar
May 7, 2007

Good people deserve good things.

Till someone lets the winter in and the dying begins, because Old Dark Places attract Old Dark Things.


Maybe one of the Iraqi guys looked behind them and realized that his entire company was running away from one guy dressed in a Hawaiian shirt, flip-flops, and cargo shorts, waving his AK and screaming?

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009


since ebb failed at posting any iraqi isis warporn i will take up the mantle instead

:nms: if you a pussy:

gentlemen, feast your eyes
:flashfap:

ps some/all of the corpse pics may be super old

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004



Obama Africanus posted:

Can't say I disagree with that young upstart, and honestly those that don't exercise their rights deserve to have them taken away which is why I'll never not exercise my 2nd amendment rights as long as I'm alive right fellow ~*~*~oath keepers~*~*~???

Love me some ~*~*~oath keeping~*~*~

When was the last time anyone needed to exercise their 3rd amendment rights?:colbert:


Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

since ebb failed at posting any iraqi isis warporn i will take up the mantle instead

:nms: if you a pussy:

gentlemen, feast your eyes
:flashfap:

ps some/all of the corpse pics may be super old
I was waiting for someone to get shot or blown up or something in that first vid. All they did was yell and slap them around.

Nostalgia4ColdWar
May 7, 2007

Good people deserve good things.

Till someone lets the winter in and the dying begins, because Old Dark Places attract Old Dark Things.


Mad Dragon posted:

I was waiting for someone to get shot or blown up or something in that first vid. All they did was yell and slap them around.

Scroll down aways and you can see where they tied some dude to the front of their humvee like a hood ornament.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004



50 Foot Ant posted:

Scroll down aways and you can see where they tied some dude to the front of their humvee like a hood ornament.

Cradle of Civilization, indeed.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003




chemosh6969 posted:

Sounds like ISIS got a little to big for their britches and Iraq/Iran have been taking cities back.
Seems about right. There was somebody on CSPAN today talking about ISIS and how they've ran a big risk with spreading themselves thin.

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009


Mad Dragon posted:

Cradle of Civilization, indeed.

lmbo if you think we wouldnt have strapped dead muj to our trucks if we wouldve been allowed to

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed




Grimey Drawer

we got into a firefight with some dudes, the IP wouldn't come pick his dead rear end up because they were loving worthless. we wrapped his bloody dead body in a white bedsheet and tied him to the hood. buddy was blasting rock you like a hurricane through the loudspeaker as we rolled through the gate to our FOB.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008



iyaayas01 posted:


I'm for non-intervention and I am completely cool with this.

In fact at least regarding Iraq/Syria at the moment my preferred foreign policy was best described in that article SS posted: “We’ll kill you if you mess with us, but otherwise go die”

Well duh, I just want to see someone say that they're ok with people killing each other like animals while the rest of the world does literally nothing without also talking about specific mistakes the administration made as if it could have been handled properly by a 17 year old goon with a few counter culture history novels under his belt.

Basically "all intervention is wrong besides my intervention".

Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Jun 14, 2014

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010


Nap Ghost

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

lmbo if you think we wouldnt have strapped dead muj to our trucks if we wouldve been allowed to

Dead?

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008



Would it still count as a human shield if it was a dead body

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

Tango Down!

shyduck posted:

Seems about right. There was somebody on CSPAN today talking about ISIS and how they've ran a big risk with spreading themselves thin.

Exactly, ISIS is making claims to all of this territory but they have zero infrastructure to secure it (similar to the Iraq invasion I guess). They can cut people's heads off but it's only a matter of time. People don't want to put up with sharia law and while yeah, they're gaining ground, they have no coherent means of securing it.

Richard Bong
Dec 11, 2008


We put a dead one on the bumper when the IP's wouldn't come get him. Were we not allowed to do that?

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009


Richard Bong posted:

We put a dead one on the bumper when the IP's wouldn't come get him. Were we not allowed to do that?

they hang war criminals you know

Iseeyouseemeseeyou
Jan 3, 2011


tom clancy is busting out his kleenex again

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27845313

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001


Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:

tom clancy is busting out his kleenex again

better get brad pitt on a plane to the land of israel, stat

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010


Nap Ghost

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

they hang war criminals you know

AFAIK, Rusty Calley is still working at some lovely jewelry story in Buttfuck, GA. You could argue that that's a fate worse than death, but he certainly wasn't hung.

Softface
Feb 15, 2011

Some things can't be unseen



This happened, too.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012





Doesn't the us still have a bunch of 50MT fusion warheads or something? We should just nuke the Middle East in a massive carpet bombing campaign and be done with it.

The Stygian
Feb 7, 2007

Exeggutor?


“Truth of the matter is we would have squashed either one of those [bombers] like baby seals.”

Moving words.

Victor Vermis
Dec 21, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN



quote:

Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney, a former Alaska commander for the North American Aerospace Defense Command, said he does not remember a case of Russian strategic bombers coming that close to the U.S. coast.

“Again we see the Obama administration through their covert — but overt to Mr. Putin — unilateral disarmament, inviting adventurism by the Russians,” McInerney said in an email.

“At the height of the Cold War, I do not remember them getting this close. Mr. Putin had to approve this mission and he is just showing his personal contempt for President Obama right after meeting him in Normandy less than a week ago,” McInerney said.

McInerney said no American president has been treated with such disrespect in U.S. history.

“A sad day indeed and at the same time Mosul and Tikrit [Iraq] fall to radical Islamists after the Obama administration’s failed Iraq policy,” he added. “He snatched defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.”

lol

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_..._in.single.html



cognitivedissonance.jpg

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night




loving l-o-l that Slate of all places think we should have stayed there. We had no choice, Iraq and their retard Al-Maliki kicked us out. Get hosed.

From article posted:

Scowcroft and his fellow foreign policy wise man Zbigniew Brzezinski.

lol k

Whip Slagcheek fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Jun 14, 2014

brains
May 12, 2004




Rep. Mike Conaway (R., Texas) posted:

“Truth of the matter is we would have squashed either one of those [bombers] like baby seals.”
literally followed by the next line:

quote:

“It’s a provocation and it’s unnecessary."

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.


Whip Slagcheek posted:

We had no choice, Iraq and their retard Al-Maliki kicked us out. Get hosed.

Just a reminder of how this went down:

- The Surge had essentially eliminated Sunni sources of violence and the 'militants' remaining were generally Iranian proxies, if not straight up Iranian soldiers
- Obama made it clear he was going to pull troops down to a token with rules of engagement that were going to ensure they'd never do anything, and at least publicly kept saying they'd be leaving by the next election cycle anyway
- Maliki originally wanted several times more troops (IIRC it was like a 35-40k permanent garrison he was asking for) but that wasn't going to happen
- The Iranians are for some strange reason anti-American and anti-people who cooperate with Americans, and Maliki looked like America Cooperator #1
- Maliki's priority top ten list was ten different variants of 'Don't let my Iranian masters have me whacked'
- Maliki obviously couldn't go after Iranian proxies running around when they were technically supporting him, and the US administration refused to publicly admit they even existed, therefore
- The pittance of remaining American troops would've been wholly inadequate to indirectly ensure Maliki's personal safety
- The Iranians and the Shia really wanted to get back to the whole 'mass murder of Sunni' stuff that the Surge had irritatingly interrupted, and that was pretty much the only bone Maliki could throw

For Maliki he had the option of keeping a handful of American soldiers around, accomplishing nothing, but keeping Iraq in the American media eye where he couldn't allow sectarian mischief, all while pissing off the Iranians - or puffing his chest out a little and making a show of standing up against the imperialists. The guy seriously was looking at a lifespan measurable in months, if he was lucky. Obama (and Clinton) on the other hand desperately wanted an excuse to pull troops out with token cover against inevitable 'cut and run' accusations. The whole 'remove American soldiers' immunity' thing was a sham that served both sides - no one seriously thinks the Iraqi govt cares that much about justice for its common people. But it was a bluff on Maliki's part to try to get Obama to commit to a higher troop number with more active involvement in security, and we called him on it - which is why the Iraqis started bitching bloody murder about us leaving practically immediately, while we were like LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU, GOT PLANES TO CATCH CIAO on the way out the door.

So ya, Maliki was a retard but ya gotta be careful blaming him entirely for us leaving. Although it's pointless and gauche to say things like "if McCain'd been elected he wouldna' have let Maliki throw us out" since McCain didn't make a campaign plank out of leaving Maliki hanging out to dry in the first place.

Snowdens Secret fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Jun 14, 2014

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011



Snowdens Secret posted:


- The Surge had essentially eliminated Sunni sources of violence and the 'militants' remaining were generally Iranian proxies, if not straight up Iranian soldiers

Uh, no

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_incidents_in_Iraq_in_2008
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_incidents_in_Iraq_in_2009
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_incidents_in_Iraq_in_2010


It's not Iranian agents bombing Shia shrines and the Iraqi government.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011



Snowdens Secret posted:

But it was a bluff on Maliki's part to try to get Obama to commit to a higher troop number with more active involvement in security

Oh a brand new and entirely made up Dolchstoss narrative for a new and happening generation, cool.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.



Did you even look at what you linked? The 'terrorist incidents' listed are suicide bombings, which are pale shadows of the open sectarian war pre-Surge, and which essentially bottom out in '09. Weak groups sending out suicide bombers aren't seizing police stations or whole towns; by Mideast standards of chaos that's about as peaceful as it gets. US media was having fun pointing out how more Americans were dying in a normal weekend of Chicago violence than in months in Iraq. Guys in this very forum were griping about how boring deployments were getting, how they didn't have any chance to 'get some' etc.

Best Friends posted:

Oh a brand new and entirely made up Dolchstoss narrative for a new and happening generation, cool.

lol

Genocide Tendency
Dec 24, 2009

I get mental health care from the medical equivalent of Skillcraft.




GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:

I dunno if this has been posted yet but lol DnD is already getting back to "this extremist group isn't actually bad and are basically the republicans of Egypt/Iraq/Syria"


*img-severed head lying on rear end, teenager mag dumped on after drive by*

I didn't believe that was actually posted.

Then I clicked on the link....

The Brown Menace posted:

Not incorrect. I mean sure we'd all love to pretend that ISIS is the worst poo poo ever, and they actually are a strong contender, but ISIS is also very good at keeping up (sharia) law and order. They don't just randomly gently caress with people, and many of the freedoms they restrict are ones which the people they govern never used or intended to use anyway. For some, the crazy roaming sharia wannabe-caliphate is a better option than constantly being hounded by thieves and rapists, who effectively get scared away by ISIS' "scary motherfucker" aura.

Not only was it what you posted, but you left out even more "holy poo poo :stonk:".

GIP is full of war criminals and murderers, but hey those ISIS guys aren't so bad...

Whip Slagcheek
Sep 21, 2008

Finally
The Gasoline And Dynamite
Will Light The Sky
For The Night




"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter!"
:goonsay:

Edit:

Periodiko posted:

I know this is pretty basic stuff, but it's really strange to me watching mainstream US coverage how they use "terrorist" to describe ISIL. They're very clearly engaging in open warfare for territory, and they have aspirations for creating a state: clearly it would be way more descriptive to call them rebels, militants, or an army. On top of that, there's this obsession with tying them to Al-Qaeda - every commercial break teaser has "meet the group that was considered Too Extreme for Even Al-Qaeda", "meet the guy who fancies himself the next bin Laden."

It seems like a really useful tactic to justify re-invasion of Iraq on the grounds of a renewed Global War on Terror. Like, the reactions that the American public has to "a seperatist force of anti-Shia rebels is establishing an independent, islamic state in Iraq" is very, very different to "the Al-Qaeda affiliated terrorist group ISIL, led by a man who fancies himself the next bin Laden, are forming an enclave in Iraq." And cable news, as far as I've seen, has leaned far more heavily toward the latter interpretation than the former. The language being used has seemed to me to be specifically chosen to enflame American's fears about international terrorism.

lol

Whip Slagcheek fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Jun 14, 2014

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.


Why yes, I'm sure a caliphate would be a lovely system of government to live and work under. It's really frustrating to see people say that we never should have left Iraq.

Bulky Bartokomous
Nov 3, 2006

In Mypos, only the strong survive.



It's not surprisingly tough to find articles from credible sources but it sounds like American contractors at Balad where/are in a hairy situation. As near as I can tell Iraqi Air Force flew them out after the base was surrounded.

ISIS would pretty stupid to overrun and kill US contractors, it's pretty much they only thing they could do that would guarantee some type of response from the US.

Genocide Tendency
Dec 24, 2009

I get mental health care from the medical equivalent of Skillcraft.




Dantu posted:

It's not surprisingly tough to find articles from credible sources but it sounds like American contractors at Balad where/are in a hairy situation. As near as I can tell Iraqi Air Force flew them out after the base was surrounded.

ISIS would pretty stupid to overrun and kill US contractors, it's pretty much they only thing they could do that would guarantee some type of response from the US.

Given that stellar response to Benghazi.

Victor Vermis
Dec 21, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN


Snowdens Secret posted:

Did you even look at what you linked? The 'terrorist incidents' listed are suicide bombings, which are pale shadows of the open sectarian war pre-Surge, and which essentially bottom out in '09. Weak groups sending out suicide bombers aren't seizing police stations or whole towns; by Mideast standards of chaos that's about as peaceful as it gets. US media was having fun pointing out how more Americans were dying in a normal weekend of Chicago violence than in months in Iraq. Guys in this very forum were griping about how boring deployments were getting, how they didn't have any chance to 'get some' etc.

I was in Al Anbar in late '08 to early '09 and this sounds right. I couldn't tell ya who was suicide bombing who but between the oodles of sleepy payroll'd militia watchmen, and lack of any clear objective for us since SOFA confined us more or less to the COP and IP stations, there was a feeling that absolutely nothing was going on.

Even elections went by relatively quietly. I can't even recall hearing of any snipers after the new year, and they were doing alright for themselves in late '08. Aside from 1 random KIA and a checkpoint in Fallujah getting hit with a suicide bomber, poo poo was completely dull in '09.


Dantu posted:

ISIS would pretty stupid to overrun and kill US contractors, it's pretty much they only thing they could do that would guarantee some type of response from the US.

I mean if they're terrorists this is probably not necessarily a bad thing for them.

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vains
May 26, 2004


Victor Vermis posted:

I was in Al Anbar in late '08 to early '09 and this sounds right. I couldn't tell ya who was suicide bombing who but between the oodles of sleepy payroll'd militia watchmen, and lack of any clear objective for us since SOFA confined us more or less to the COP and IP stations, there was a feeling that absolutely nothing was going on.

Even elections went by relatively quietly. I can't even recall hearing of any snipers after the new year, and they were doing alright for themselves in late '08. Aside from 1 random KIA and a checkpoint in Fallujah getting hit with a suicide bomber, poo poo was completely dull in '09.

My whole battalion had 1 'firefight' in 2008 where some especially retarded Iraqis decided to shoot AKs from a pickup truck at LAVs.

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