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Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011




Pork Pro

If shim ever starts a cult I just know I'm gonna end up shaving my head again

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Ultimate Shrek Fan
May 2, 2005

by FactsAreUseless


genderstomper58 posted:

please write an american history book so i can learn the truth....

Is that not what they teach in Texas?

jerman999
Apr 26, 2006

This is a lex imperfecta


What's his retirement pay at O-5?

genderstomper58
Jan 9, 2005

by XyloJW


Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:

Is that not what they teach in Texas?

they use way more god here

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005



jerman999 posted:

What's his retirement pay at O-5?

I'm actually curious how it works out. Standard retirement pay is calculated off of the average base pay of your highest 36 months of pay. Do they calculate it in this case by just going back to when he picked up colonel and going back 3 years from then? If that's the case and he picked up O-6 let's say 10 years ago he's probably pulling in around 4500 a month or so in pension.

MrYenko
Jun 17, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...



jerman999 posted:

What's his retirement pay at O-5?

WAG: $60,000/yr.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.


Mad Dragon posted:

General in Sex Scandal Demoted 2 Grades

quote:

Brig. Gen. Jeffrey A. Sinclair had a three-year affair with a female captain who accused him of twice forcing her to perform oral sex on him. He pleaded guilty at a court martial to adultery and conducting inappropriate relationships with two others.

So were the other times consensual and she only had headaches twice, or did the good general manage to have a three year affair and only get two beejays?

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001


Mr. Nice! posted:

I'm actually curious how it works out. Standard retirement pay is calculated off of the average base pay of your highest 36 months of pay. Do they calculate it in this case by just going back to when he picked up colonel and going back 3 years from then? If that's the case and he picked up O-6 let's say 10 years ago he's probably pulling in around 4500 a month or so in pension.

To answer your question he gets his highest three years of paygrade that he last honorably served at, and not based on current pay tables but the payables at the time of his honorable service at whatever grade they retire his rear end at. In essence he gets to retire but everything after three years of LtCol didn't count. His % is locked in, assuming he didn't take the redux or join long enough ago that he's under the old retirement system from the 80's. Possible considering his rank.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005



I was basing my 4500 off of 75% of O5 pay in 2004. Thanks for the clarification!

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001


Mr. Nice! posted:

I was basing my 4500 off of 75% of O5 pay in 2004. Thanks for the clarification!

I'm gonna make a mil pay spreadsheet calculator that DFAS should have done a decade ago and just host it here in our little ironic neonazi den.

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed




Grimey Drawer

Some specialist got his rear end ran over by Whip's cousin here in Washington

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/shocking-video-shows-washington-state-man-struck-car-dragged-street-article-1.1834098

Eugene V. Dubstep
Oct 4, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3979 days!



He stumbled while trying to get behind the wheel of the (invisible) car, then lay perfectly still in the middle of the street. OK.

Why do they print that garbage?

Iseeyouseemeseeyou
Jan 3, 2011


Mustang posted:

We should pump a ton of money into a Manhattan project type program to develop alternative energy. Let the Middle East just be some backwater no one gives a poo poo about. What do they think is going to happen when they run out of oil? Its not like they're using the money to develop their countries, its just lining the pockets of the elite.

lol if you think this is true

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

What, Me Worry?


Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:

lol if you think this is true

Just a reminder that nobody gives a poo poo what you think. :ssh:

genderstomper58
Jan 9, 2005

by XyloJW


EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

Just a reminder that nobody gives a poo poo what you think. :ssh:

Ummm theyre building cool islands and indoor ski slopes and exotic police cars your move hater

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005



Empty skyscrapers all over the drat place built by slave labor doesn't really count as developing your country.

Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Jun 21, 2014

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008



Bullshit, Muslims are still developing advanced technology to benefit their society. Just watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIxm3Z7s5ZI

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

What, Me Worry?


If they brought back no poo poo gladiatorial games I'd buy season tickets.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd


Snowdens Secret posted:

So were the other times consensual and she only had headaches twice, or did the good general manage to have a three year affair and only get two beejays?

The fact that he only got convicted of adultery and inappropriate relationships (as opposed to an actual sex crime like the assault and forcible sodomy charges he was originally facing) and will thus avoid any jail time is because the prosecution's case collapsed after it became known that their star witness (said female Captain) had issues with telling the truth under oath (i.e. she basically perjured herself).

Incidentally the lead prosecutor actually stepped down from the case over his belief that the star witness was getting away with perjury.

Iseeyouseemeseeyou
Jan 3, 2011


I'm not going to argue that the elite aren't lining their pockets, but they are spending significant sums in diversifying [re: developing] their economies. After oil runs out, numerous countries still have significant natural gas and mineral reserves to exploit (qatar, bahrain, saudi arabia, uae, etc.)

Saudi Development:

UAE:

Afghanistan also has a shitload of untapped mineral wealth and natural gas reserves, though I doubt we'll ever get to extract them: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-war-is-worth-waging-afghanistan-s-vast-reserves-of-minerals-and-natural-gas/19769

There's also that thing where nato has, and will always have, numerous bases in the middle east.

So yes, most middle eastern countries are actively developing their countries & economies. And it's not going to become some backwater due to the inevitable loss of oil.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005



You just posted a bunch of the bullshit empty cities that are for nothing but dickwaving and were built basically by slaves. Jebal Ali is only as big as it is because of the oil shipping and US navy uses. Once the oil demand dries up everything is leaving that godforsaken place. There is absolutely no reason for any ship to pull into the gulf that isn't oil related.

genderstomper58
Jan 9, 2005

by XyloJW


Mr. Nice! posted:

You just posted a bunch of the bullshit empty cities that are for nothing but dickwaving and were built basically by slaves. Jebal Ali is only as big as it is because of the oil shipping and US navy uses. Once the oil demand dries up everything is leaving that godforsaken place. There is absolutely no reason for any ship to pull into the gulf that isn't oil related.

I guess I just assume when someone says oil it includes gas because the oil & gas industry is basically one entity imo so the natural gas infrastructure mentioned is basically saying "yeah they invest in infrastructure, they build oil wells!!!" heh

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.



Iseeyouseemeseeyou posted:

[*] Dubai & Abu Dhabi have both built expansive international airports to support their growing tourism & industry sectors.

Haha no they had a dickwaving competition and built the airports in order to service their trophy airlines, it wasn't due to demand

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Mr. Nice! posted:

Empty skyscrapers all over the drat place built by slave labor doesn't really count as developing your country.

It's working so far for China.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

:thunk:
Have you considered not attending the Captain's Career Course?
:thunk:


Not to mention that something like 75% of new private sector jobs are taken by cheap foreign labor anyway. The primary requirement for any Saudi getting a decent job in the private sector is having some kind of connection to the royal family. It's estimated that roughly a third of the youth and women in Saudi Arabia are unemployed but there's no way to know for sure because it's taboo in Saudi Arabia to talk about it. Fixing the unemployment of women in the country is particularly difficult because of how backward the country is, god forbid a woman and a man that aren't related interact with each other. Women can't even drive in Saudi Arabia!

Oil is 95% of their exports and 70% of government revenue, it's not going to be easy to pacify the populace with welfare packages once the oil dries out, especially with an estimated 50-60% of the population under the age of 25.

OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH
Sep 9, 2001


A not insignificant part of me hopes that MERS was a covert biological attack by the U.S. and we're all secretly innoculated ahead of time. I could give a gently caress how much those unevolved savages pay to upgrade the infrastructure of dirt and dust city, I want to see the entirety of their people and the history of their culture wiped from not just the earth but even our most distant memories into the future.

gently caress that entire region, and it's people.

Anyone who loving defends the middle east, it's people, or it's rich culture of peace and love deserves to be executed under Sharia law.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The only thing an Arab understands is a boot on it's neck and an M-4 pointed at it's phrenologically odd dome.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007



Dubai won't even invest in a loving sewer system unless you count a 20 mile long line of poo poo trucks that dump it in the middle of their lovely goddamn desert.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

:thunk:
Have you considered not attending the Captain's Career Course?
:thunk:


you've lead me to google stuff about Dubai's poo poo problem and apparently Oman also has the same problem. At one point parts of streets, parking lots and parks in Dubai were flooded with sewage and they hired cheap chinese labor to clean the streets. In addition to trucking it out to the desert they also dump it into the storm drains so the coast of Dubai is literally full of poo poo.



Wonder how many diseases you would catch if you fell into that.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.


Mustang posted:

In addition to trucking it out to the desert they also dump it into the storm drains so the coast of Dubai is literally full of poo poo.



Wonder how many diseases you would catch if you fell into that.

Counterpoint almost every coastal country does this, it's pretty much a given when pulling into a foreign port that the port itself will be a disgusting cesspool. I've heard the worst offenders are in Asia but even the Euros (at least Italians and French) do it.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005



The russians just pumped CHT directly into the water in Vladivostok when we pulled in there. We paid to have a CHT barge pull alongside us. We pumped our poo poo to them and they dumped it directly into the water.

We were med moored and had a line across to the next ship and one over to a buoy. Pulling those lines in was loving disgusting.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus


Mr. Nice! posted:

The russians just pumped CHT directly into the water in Vladivostok when we pulled in there. We paid to have a CHT barge pull alongside us. We pumped our poo poo to them and they dumped it directly into the water.

We were med moored and had a line across to the next ship and one over to a buoy. Pulling those lines in was loving disgusting.

Still blows my mind we pull boats into vlad.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011



Mr. Nice! posted:

You just posted a bunch of the bullshit empty cities that are for nothing but dickwaving and were built basically by slaves. Jebal Ali is only as big as it is because of the oil shipping and US navy uses. Once the oil demand dries up everything is leaving that godforsaken place. There is absolutely no reason for any ship to pull into the gulf that isn't oil related.

maybe they need to do a speedboat drill

e: or maybe an iranian passenger airliner looked at us funny


e2: maybe we as a country decide that we have a moral obligation to help all the SE asians currently in slavery in the gulf area and mount an operation tahahahhaha gently caress you give us oil

goatsestretchgoals fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Jun 21, 2014

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

I'm too dumb to get probated


I was under the impression in that more falafey part of the world that as long as you say "Insallah" whatever you're doing is totally cool, be it condemning thousands from a different tribe death through inaction or dumping poo poo into a harbor

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

I'm too dumb to get probated


In other news a bunch more people are dead in Ukraine and things are still hosed but Obummer broke Iraq so who cares
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/6/20/ukraine-russia-border.html

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!


Fojar38 posted:

It's working so far for China.

China is rapidly approaching a new Dark Age. It's not really the best example to use.

Courthouse
Jul 23, 2013


maffew buildings posted:

In other news a bunch more people are dead in Ukraine and things are still hosed but Obummer broke Iraq so who cares
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/6/20/ukraine-russia-border.html

In response to Kiev's overt hostile actions in taking control of their borders and offering amnesty to separatists and russian fighters who lay down arms during the ceasefire, Russia has put it's forces on "full combat alert".

Something gonna happen, or more bluffing?

RonMexicosPitbull
Feb 28, 2012

by Ralp


This doesn't feel like a bluff, they're literally sending tanks and other weapons.

I think Putin can smell weakness and knows he'll get away with minor sanctions to separatist leaders. I mean Crimea is basically theirs now they barely mention it. The whole debate right now is over the Eastern territories.

Courthouse
Jul 23, 2013


RonMexicosPitbull posted:

This doesn't feel like a bluff, they're literally sending tanks and other weapons.

I think Putin can smell weakness and knows he'll get away with minor sanctions to separatist leaders. I mean Crimea is basically theirs now they barely mention it. The whole debate right now is over the Eastern territories.

The eastern territories that the separatists are failing to keep control over as the army has been able to get a modicum of it's poo poo together. Kiev now controls most relevant border crossings and strategic positions. The separatists hold a bunch of symbolic government buildings. Local civilians have gone from confronting the army to mostly hiding in basements or leaving the cities until the fighting is over, willingness to play human shields seemingly greatly diminished. The separatists also just don't have enough Russian help to cope with the army air and armour.

All in all Kiev is winning this one, unless Russia gets involved for real. President Willy Wonka seems quite certain he has this in the bag, judging from the peace proposal. And I don't think more Russian saber rattling is enough to change facts on the ground. Sending arms and advisers does not seem to have been enough, and with the separatists losing control over most the border crossings I don't think they will be able to send enough to turn any tides.

Crimea is still lost though, and noone is going to help them get it back.

Courthouse fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Jun 21, 2014

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.


Good news guys, the VA is doing great:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/21/u...tw-nytimes&_r=0

quote:

All of the 470 senior executives at the Department of Veterans Affairs received annual ratings over the last four years indicating that they were “fully successful” in their jobs or even better, according to data released at a congressional hearing on Friday, despite delays in processing disability compensation claims and problems with veterans’ access to the department’s sprawling health care system.

None of the department’s senior executives received either of the two lowest of five possible job ratings, “minimally satisfactory” or “unsatisfactory,” in any of the past four fiscal years.

The data also showed that in 2013, nearly 80 percent of the senior executives were rated either “outstanding” or as having exceeded “fully successful” in their job performance, and that at least 65 percent of the executives received performance awards, which averaged around $9,000. Only about 20 percent received the middle of the five ratings.
...
In all, the department paid performance awards to senior executives that totaled $4.7 million in 2010 and $2.7 million in the most recent fiscal year.
...
Many administrators’ bonuses were tied partly to whether their facilities met patient wait-time goals, including being able to see a doctor within 14 days. When a shortage of doctors and other factors made it impossible for many facilities to come anywhere close to those standards, many administrators and patient schedulers manipulated data and used other tactics to make the numbers look better than they were.

And I absolutely adore this excuse:

quote:

The data also showed that in 2013, nearly 80 percent of the senior executives were rated either “outstanding” or as having exceeded “fully successful” in their job performance, and that at least 65 percent of the executives received performance awards, which averaged around $9,000. Only about 20 percent received the middle of the five ratings.

Veterans Affairs officials sought to play down the data, saying that only 15 senior executives across the entire federal government had received either of the two lowest ratings in the most recent year — suggesting that the high ratings enjoyed by V.A. officials were not out of line with those of their counterparts at other government agencies.

The VA 2014: We're Not Any More hosed Than The Rest Of This Circus

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genderstomper58
Jan 9, 2005

by XyloJW


On the other hand, a $9,000 bonus for a senior executive is laughably small so I dunno I don't see the big deal about it heh

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