Strangecoin: a calvinball economy

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LGD: Sep 25, 2004

Yiggy posted:

This is wishful thinking on par with Eripa-posting in general. He's been doing this for years now. After being banned in the second attention economy thread for the sort of aggrieved "You guys aren't getting it, feh, typical" sort of bluster on display now, he later tried to sneak back under the guise of a new persona for more "discussion" and was pretty quickly recognized due to how characteristic his idiosyncrasies are. That he demands a greater spirit of charity from the forums after not having changed one whit and earning every bit of scorn is laughable, to say the least. When he insists that this is one of the best venues for critiquing and improving his ideas, I think that really speaks lowly of the quality of those ideas that we're the best hes able to find when you consider how every one of these threads plays out. Hes miffed about the response he gets and his own reputation without ever stopping to consider that he earned it all on his own. This doesn't deserve any more patience than hes getting, and frankly posters like Jawn seem saint-like in what they're willing to put up with.

Oh he deserves less charity than he's gotten for sure, and I know I'm probably being unreasonably charitable now. It's just that the notion he's truly incapable of engaging in any sort of genuine self-reflection is making me unusually sad today. I don't know, maybe it's the contrast to the nice spring weather. And sometimes things strike people in a funny way and they'll change from what is apparently a fixed set of behavior. I want to be optimistic.

On the other hand there is the post he just made, as well as all of his posting before that, so yeah I should probably just take a loving hint, huh?

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# ? Oct 10, 2024 14:32

Adar: Jul 27, 2001

Also I'm gonna derail this fascinating chat about someone whose name isn't Eripsa and mention something else from a couple of pages back because I just got around to reading it

quote:

Paulie gestured aggressively with his right hand, which also happened to contain the left hand of Monica, whose recently manicured fingernails stuck out of his thick, hairy fist like a fleshy mace with bright red spikes. Monica struggled to maintain balance and the integrity of her dress while being tossed back and forth by her increasingly agitated boyfriend as he thrust their impromptu weapon at the stoic bouncer guarding the door. The bouncer sat motionlessly and in all black on the edge of a stool behind intimidating shades that seemed to create subduction zones on the skin of his face.

a)I know you felt like you had to put an analogy in there but I'm pretty sure this is not what a human hand inside another human hand looks like
b)who writes like this
c)well, that's definitely the first time I've seen "subduction zone" used to describe a facial feature
d)you had 200 takes to write a second paragraph and that was the best one?

blah blah blah something about the currency of the future shifting on a daily basis so 99% of the world is perpetually bankrupt goes here

quote:

The shot from the bouncer's powerful scanner excited (and therefore made momentarily visible) the growing field of red lights growing around at the physical confrontation between Paulie and Monica, who appeared to have decided to abandon all pretense of public composure and invest fully in a spontaneous public performance of their argumentative dance. It was a routine they both knew by heart and had improvised together so many times as a private ritual that they fell instantly back into the rhythms for their newly acquired public audience with all the grace of dancers at the height of their craft. This had the effect of turning the cameras and microphones and array of sensors that were now capturing this performance into an exercise in documentary and voyeurism and surveillance and couples therapy and anthropology simultaneously. Every data point captured in association with this event will be integrated online and processed for identity and criminal or creative activity so that merits and demerits can be distributed to the participants accordingly. And unless you're sure you come out looking great, you generally want to be as far away from those redistribution events as possible, because they always seem to gently caress over someone.

e)shifting tense
f)the world of tomorrow sounds pretty loving boring. some moron and his dumb girlfriend are arguing so everyone gets out a camera to endlessly integrate it online and process it for merits and demerits. everyone in this story is literally in junior high
g)better not be anywhere near a moron arguing with his girlfriend, except for all the people next to them recording this and each other because they're in a circle. you can't even be consistent for half a paragraph

in conclusion, D+, freshman composition 101 is that way

# ? Apr 9, 2014 22:33

Political Whores: Feb 13, 2012

30 pages ago, the only thing you said was:

RealityApologist posted:

The limited scope that I'm interested in is the particular differences in incentive structure and economic behavior that signals from a Strangecoin network would provide. Slanderer and a few others have been commenting on the technical details of the proposal, and that has been really the only constructive or productive thing happening in this thread.

I'm not interested in proposing this as a viable alternative currency or with any of the issues that might be involved in that transition, although if people want to talk about that go ahead. The fact that I don't have a story of how that goes is not an impediment for talking about the proposal I've given. This is not my or anyone else's plan for a social revolution, nor is it an attack on the foundations of economics. It is a discussion of a model of social organization. A lot of people think I'm doing something very different, and are criticizing me on those grounds, but it really doesn't touch what I'm doing. Again, I think the analogy with the "theory of the traditional family" is a pretty good analogy for the dialectical situation.

Still, I'll try to go back through and catch questions I missed.

Your first post says this:

RealityApologist posted:

I was digging through the SomethingAwful archives and found my first essay on the attention economy, written on April 5th, 2011. At the time, Bitcoin had yet to experience it's first bubble and was still trading below a dollar, and Occupy Wall Street was still five months in the future. If you don't have access to the archives, the thread which prompted this first write up was titled "No More Bitchin: Let's actually create solutions to society's problems!" Despite my reputation on this forum, I'm not interested in pop speculative futurism or idle technoidealism. I don't think there's an easy technological fix for our many difficult problems. But I do think that our technological circumstances have a dramatic impact on our social, political, and economic organizations, and that we can design technologies to cultivate human communities that are healthy, stable, and cooperative. The political and economic infrastructure we have for managing collective human action was developed at a time when individual rational agency formed the basis of all political theory, and in a networked digital age we can do much better. An attention economy doesn't solve all the problems, but it provides tools for addressing problems that simply aren't available with the infrastructure we have available today. My discussion of the attention economy was aimed at discussing social organization at this level of abstraction, with the hopes that taking this networked perspective on social action would reveal some of the tools necessary for addressing our problems.

What I am asking for is simple: what tools are you expecting to see appear? What behaviour? You attempt to defend your idea by saying that you're not looking to produce anything viable or actually useful as an alternative, but your initial post says otherwise, and you continuously defend your idea from criticism that it is unrealistic in modelling human nature with statements like this:

RealityApologist posted:

The claim is whether actual human social reasoning reflects the structure of the Strangecoin network. You're right that I haven't supported the claim yet, at least in this thread. Your comments are critical but constructive, so I'm going to take the opportunity to make clear what closely related claims I have been supporting before I support this particular claim, because this is the first time this criticism has been made explicit.

First, the altcurrency paper that we've been talking about concluded with a comment about how the community structure in a network is actually predictive of social activity, and therefore important to consider in understanding and managing it's behavior. So most of my discussion has been in defense of the claim that community structure does predict social activity. In case the support for this claim is still in question, here's another resource of support.

Second, I've argued (mostly during the nepotism discussion) that our historical attempts at reifying a community structure (through the caste system in India, modern economic classes, race, etc) are actually just poor-but-implementable ways of uncovering the community structure. That someone is black doesn't say anything about their relative economic value to a system, so a system grounded on race and skin color to determine economic position is just doomed to failure. The argument is that we're currently relying on mostly inherited/traditional markers of community organization (like race and class), and these poor markers will be usurped by more detailed and useful data about the network and its structure. This is also the reason why I think these issues don't become worse in Strangecoinworld. It's not like future populations will find better ways or organizing around race or class, any more than future vehicles will find ways to attach more and more horses to a carriage. You guys are attacking my proposal for an automobile by arguing that the amount of poo poo produced by the horses that would be required to pull the thing would drown the street. You fail to understand that the poo poo horses produce aren't a problem on future roads, which isn't to say there aren't problems but just that they aren't the same problem...

This is accounted for in my original spec, especially in the account limits. The existence of account limits motivates users to act certain ways depending on where they are with respect to these limits. For instance, a user reaching the account cap has an incentive to increase their expenses (support or endorse people) in order to avoid the penalties incurred at the cap (the removal of the modifiers).

You state here that you believe that strangecoin is a way to fundamentally circumvent problems inherent in basically every human society that has ever existed, indeed you finish by explaining that your spec has already accounted for at least some of this behaviour through account caps. Despite your constant backpedaling claims that you're just interested in seeing what new structures may occur (something for which you provide no reasoning as to why these should appear), every time someone drills you on what exactly strangecoin is for, your defence is that you believe it will fundamentally reorder human social interactions away from negative behaviours. You use this as a defence against criticism of strangecoin unrealistic modelling of human behaviour. You cannot hold both these positions and be consistent, either you have no idea what strangecoin will do, or you have a desired endpoint in mind. In either case, all the criticism in this thread still applies, either by pointing out that human behaviours will still effect your system, or by refuting your claim that your system has adequately circumvented these problems.

So, what is the purpose of strangecoin, stated simply: Is it purely a thought exercise to which you have given no thought of purpose or consequences, or is it an experimental model meant to fudamentally alter the way humans interact with one another, in ways that you hope will be beneficial to society? Doe you envision a purpose fro strangecoin, and if you do not, do you then retract all of your statements concerning the potential for strangecoin to ameliorate the human condition?

# ? Apr 9, 2014 23:00

Peel: Dec 3, 2007

Complaints about bullying would be more credible if this wasn't his fourth thread on the topic, in which he has once again held the line for dozens of pages. He knew what he was going to get when he posted this thread and chooses to continue to post in it knowing what he will get each time.

You want to run the world as a social network, this is what social networks do.

# ? Apr 9, 2014 23:02

Wanamingo: Feb 22, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

I'm going to repeat myself and say that RA, there's no harm in going to a therapist for a session or two so you can see what they have to say about you. What have you got to lose?

e: wouldn't your university have a counseling staff on hand? Just hit those people up.

# ? Apr 9, 2014 23:05

Forums Barber: Jan 5, 2011

And look, people saying "maybe talk to a therapist", they're not trolling you. There is nothing wrong with anyone in the world talking to a counselor or therapist. It's not an admission of a problem in any way. I am not making fun of you or being sarcastic here, I really mean this.

You know who people really hate? People who hurt and hate other people. You're not somebody that people hate, and again, academia is way loving more brutal than we are in terms of conflating attack the idea with attack the person.

Forums Barber fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Apr 9, 2014

# ? Apr 9, 2014 23:13

Xelkelvos: Dec 19, 2012

RealityApologist posted:

You are all engaging in collective bullying behavior designed to attack my character and sanity. You've escalated the exaggerated outrage in an effort to one-up each other in the extremity of your caricature, to the point that none of my posts receive even an attempt at charitable interpretation or understanding before half a dozen of your fall over yourselves to make the same dumb joke. The effort to top each other in your mockery is sometimes constructive for the discussion (ie, Adar), but has also resulted in inquiry into my personal life, demands that I be fired and that my adviser and institution be called into question, and harassment of my professional acquaintances.

To think this that any of this is warranted by my writings here is sheer groupthink lunacy. Your attempts to provide constructive criticism about my writing and presentation would be far more convincing if you could model such behavior in your own posts, but you all have the restraint of howler monkeys in heat. The idea that I'm supposed to not only reconsider my whole interest in this topic, but my general goals and career and self-conception, in light of your fraternal jockeying in this thread is laughable to the point of being as obtuse as you think I am.

But to think that my ignorance warrants the concerted attack on my character, identity, or psychological well-being is simply inhumane.

To that, every other point that was made about this the first time should be reiterated.

Xelkelvos posted:

The statements about your character are levied because you continue to make the same fundamental errors in your reasoning and explanation over and over again without any effort to amend those errors. The most general counter to your flaws in reasoning or explanation can't be levied toward the argument since it's fundamentally flawed in its reasoning or assumptions and thus become levied at you because it is an error that you made and not one of the subject itself.

I hope that this is as simple as I can make it so that you don't ignore it like you seem to do with so many other valid or invalid criticisms.

To add: You are akin to a teenager who is nagged and lectured at length about the mistakes that they make, but just rolls their eyes and ignores everything that is said in response without any conscious consideration over the possibility that the action that spurred the nagging was actually bad or wrong.

There is also the additional victim complex (which may be somewhat justified, but no necessarily undeserved) you've put upon yourself.

# ? Apr 9, 2014 23:47

Judakel: Jul 29, 2004; Can't post for 8 years!

SedanChair posted:

That was him you smoker. I guess it's hard to tell all those "community college dropouts" apart?

Nope, unsurprisingly, you're wrong again. Check the introductions to the Google Hangout. Really not helping yourself here.

Eripsa, there are quite a few people in this thread who are obviously bullying you for their own amusement. However, there are also quite a few people who are simply sick of your inability to articulate your mistakes and be candid about your theory's flaws. At a certain point, these two groups become indistinguishable. Look at it as a sign that you simply did not conduct these discussion in a particularly productive manner. I don't have a problem with half-baked ideas being brought to this forum's attention, as long as you're utilizing the thread as a means to learn how your idea can be improved (or abandoned entirely) in an intellectually honest manner. If you're just going to use the thread as a pulpit, well... No one likes that. Obviously.

Judakel fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Apr 10, 2014

# ? Apr 10, 2014 02:40

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

^^^^

Perfidia posted:

At this point the evidence pretty clearly suggests that Eripsa doesn't really understand what people are saying to him (in addition to being somewhat fuzzy about what he himself is actually saying), and I'm not sure how that can be fixed. There is a fundamental disconnect somewhere that probably will never be resolved in this comedy forum of ours, but the surrounding discussion is actually great. I've learned several things about stuff I normally don't bother with, so I'd like to thank all involved for that.

I've pretty much concluded that too, which is why I try to offer a lot of analogies to real world stuff alongside links if you want to dig into more technical stuff.

As nerds on a comedy forum, we have all had fancy ideas like RA so I have some empathy for him. I've probably had similar ideas (running complex simulations on computers), but I also understand when an idea is concrete enough to withstand public criticism versus something that should just remain in my imagination.

I think in RA's case that he knows enough about the underpinnings of his ideas to be dangerous. He is optimistic, because if he can get a grasp of his idea, then surely the experts will know how to do a proper job. But unfortunately, a lay understanding means you conceptualise problems as a massive simplification of the way experts conceptualise a problem. Everything is smooth and "just works", whereas experts have spent many years being burnt by all of the ugly bumps and flaws of their field.

RealityApologist posted:

I'm not writing an academic paper, and I'm not hocking pseudoscience. At best, my crime is ignorance.

Ignorance breeds pseudo-science.
What you are doing is essentially folk physics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Na%C3%AFve_physics

quote:

Many ideas of folk physics are simplifications, misunderstandings, or misperceptions of well-understood phenomena, incapable of giving useful predictions of detailed experiments, or simply are contradicted by more thorough observations. They may sometimes be true, be true in certain limited cases, be true as a good first approximation to a more complex effect, or predict the same effect but misunderstand the underlying mechanism.

while you have good intentions, your ideas are not scientific. Folk physics is pseudo-science due to ignorance, that is literally what it is.

Tokamak fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Apr 10, 2014

# ? Apr 10, 2014 02:46

BernieLomax: May 29, 2002

evilweasel posted:

I think that if Eripsa defends poor posts with "this is a comedy forum" that he should be reminded that everyone else's posts will be held to that standard. Which is exactly Who What Now's point, that you so completely missed and still don't get.

Wow, how hard is it? Answer the basic question. That was two yes/no questions.

Who What Now's point doesn't qualify any sort of rigid analysis, but that's beside the point: I attacked his statement.

BernieLomax fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Apr 10, 2014

# ? Apr 10, 2014 03:06

Badera: Jan 30, 2012; Student Brian Boyko has lost faith in America.

I actually think that this incredibly painful-to-read derail has improved the thread.

# ? Apr 10, 2014 03:12

Who What Now: Sep 10, 2006; by Azathoth

BernieLomax posted:

It was a simple question and you avoid answering it. Answer it?

Eprisa is the only one that used that excuse, though. Your question doesn't make sense.

# ? Apr 10, 2014 03:17

Slanderer: May 6, 2007

Who What Now posted:

Eprisa is the only one that used that excuse, though. Your question doesn't make sense.

The endless circularity of his reasoning makes perpetual motion seem so close....

# ? Apr 10, 2014 03:22

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001; Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Slanderer posted:

The endless circularity of his reasoning makes perpetual motion seem so close....

Careful, send the derail in that direction and we all may get a steorn warning...

# ? Apr 10, 2014 03:25

BernieLomax: May 29, 2002

Who What Now posted:

Eprisa is the only one that used that excuse, though. Your question doesn't make sense.

It is a question that doesn't depend on what Eripsa said. But you chose to interpret it in that illogical manner?

BernieLomax posted:

So, do you think that "This is a comedy forum" is a good excuse for making fun of Eripsa? And are you/Who What Now upset about Eripsa posting silly stuff?

How doesn't these question make sense? They are very straight forward questions and takes only a basic response.

BernieLomax fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Apr 10, 2014

# ? Apr 10, 2014 03:31

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

BernieLomax posted:

It is a question that doesn't depend on what Eripsa said. But you chose to interpret it in that illogical manner?

How doesn't this question make sense?

quote:

So, do you think that "This is a comedy forum" is a good excuse for making fun of Eripsa? And are you/Who What Now upset about Eripsa posting silly stuff?

I need an excuse?

# ? Apr 10, 2014 03:34

BernieLomax: May 29, 2002

SedanChair posted:

I need an excuse?

If that's your full answer you admit you're making fun of him because you can. You admit it is neither a good or bad excuse, but you do it anyway.

BernieLomax fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Apr 10, 2014

# ? Apr 10, 2014 03:38

Who What Now: Sep 10, 2006; by Azathoth

BernieLomax posted:

If that's your full answer you admit you're making fun of him because you can.

Yeah, pretty much. Also because he's an idiot.

# ? Apr 10, 2014 03:44

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

BernieLomax posted:

If that's your full answer you admit you're making fun of him because you can. You admit it is neither a good or bad excuse, but you do it anyway.

Do you realize where you are? We've been dredging a worthless right-wing website for piquant examples of hatred and ignorance for a decade. We exhaustively critique editorial cartoons. We are not good people with sound priorities. A tireless moron is endless sport to us.

# ? Apr 10, 2014 04:01

BernieLomax: May 29, 2002

SedanChair posted:

Do you realize where you are? We've been dredging a worthless right-wing website for piquant examples of hatred and ignorance for a decade. We exhaustively critique editorial cartoons. We are not good people with sound priorities. A tireless moron is endless sport to us.

I know all about it. And I expect better of you. Get your poo poo together.

# ? Apr 10, 2014 04:03

boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

BernieLomax posted:

I know all about it. And I expect better of you. Get your poo poo together.

I know that you're a pack of howling dittohead retards and yet your level of discourse continues to disappoint me

Yeesh, no wonder you think free energy is real.

# ? Apr 10, 2014 04:05

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

"I expect better of you, forum known primarily for sending a pizza to Joe Biden's house." < :mad:

# ? Apr 10, 2014 04:06

boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

I know that you jerks run jokes into the ground so hard that NIST or at least the Secret Service is legally compelled to investigate but Christ on the Cross, aren't there ANY standards around here???

# ? Apr 10, 2014 04:07

Nintendo Kid: Aug 4, 2011; by Smythe

SedanChair posted:

"I expect better of you, forum known primarily for sending a pizza to Joe Biden's house." <>

Given that this forum used to have pages on pages with discussion on whether gay or friend of the family were was reasonable expressions and used to create ads for people who dared to defend Palestine. Things change, and so far I've had my mind. But gently caress, it's surprising how loving stubborn people can be about being dicks. Besides, I don't think this forum can live down creating 4chan, and by extension giving some of the world media the opportunity to talk about that poo poo as a success story.

BernieLomax fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Apr 10, 2014

# ? Apr 10, 2014 04:33

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

BernieLomax posted:

Believe it or not, but I think one should object to lovely behaviour when one see it.

I agree! I object like a motherfucker when people engage in lovely behavior like posting a hundred pages of poo poo drivel on subjects about which they know nothing, pretend to engage with critics and lie about being receptive to criticism.

quote:

You followed up with a statement you really should know is false (you copy what other people said about me).

Oh Bernie. :sigh:

I've got an Occam's razor for you. On the one hand, we are all conspiring against you and copying one another in an attempt to present a united front and drive you to madness. On the other hand...maybe we're all just reading the crazy nonsense you're writing, and reacting to it as individuals?

# ? Apr 10, 2014 04:46

Ogmius815: Aug 25, 2005; centrism is a hell of a drug

BernieLomax posted:

And even worse you assume that I somehow have the same opinons now that I had 8 years ago. Isn't that sort of hosed up?

No actually that's normal.

# ? Apr 10, 2014 05:03

BernieLomax: May 29, 2002

SedanChair posted:

I agree! I object like a motherfucker when people engage in lovely behavior like posting a hundred pages of poo poo drivel on subjects about which they know nothing, pretend to engage with critics and lie about being receptive to criticism.

lovely behaviour != "someone being wrong on the internet". One is about being a dick to other people, while the other is basically being wrong. One has actual social repercussions while the other is just being wrong. Note that there's a difference between posting an RFC on a forum and posting the same stuff as fact on facebook.

quote:

Oh Bernie. I've got an Occam's razor for you. On the one hand, we are all conspiring against you and copying one another in an attempt to present a united front and drive you to madness. On the other hand...maybe we're all just reading the crazy nonsense you're writing, and reacting to it as individuals?

Badera posted:

I actually think that this incredibly painful-to-read derail has improved the thread.

Erispa's stuff sometimes indirectly leads to finding out interesting things, this is just a boring rehashed slapfight.

# ? Apr 10, 2014 05:15

Muscle Tracer: Feb 23, 2007; Medals only weigh one down.

I award this thread four attention demerits for wasting my time, and I'll be seeking to penalize Eripsa and Bernie before the High Attention Court (in a secret bid to earn yet more StrangeTtention Coins for myself). Consider my quality vote reduced from four to three, and if all you dumb bullies that keep responding to people's posts don't want me to withdraw my 1% support joinders then you'd better :unsmigghh:

# ? Apr 10, 2014 05:25

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

Muscle Tracer posted:

StrangeTtention

Smooth neologism! You're now officially Helping and can join the hallowed ranks of JawnV6 and Adar, except when you are being a groupthink moron in a pack of jabbering, slavering baboons.

# ? Apr 10, 2014 05:34

BernieLomax: May 29, 2002

Muscle Tracer posted:

I award this thread four attention demerits for wasting my time, and I'll be seeking to penalize Eripsa and Bernie before the High Attention Court (in a secret bid to earn yet more StrangeTtention Coins for myself). Consider my quality vote reduced from four to three, and if all you dumb bullies that keep responding to people's posts don't want me to withdraw my 1% support joinders then you'd better

Sorry, but if I get 2-3 readers to be a tad more critical towards the herd-behaviour in this thread I feel it is time well spent. I'm sorry about all the time you wasted that could be better spent curing cancer or playing dungeon crawl.

# ? Apr 10, 2014 05:35

CheesyDog: Jul 4, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

When will this herd behavior end? Such a large group of people giving RA so much negative attention. If we could just get past this, we could return to the topic at hand: a collectively held currency for an attention-economy that seeks to model and explain all humanity's interactions through monitoring all social and economic behavior. But instead, everyone is ignoring that and focusing on actions from RA's and Bernie's past, personal judgements unrelated to the conversation at hand but which keep getting consideration, and evaluations of RA's social worth.

Let me tell you, you assholes are really ruining things in this discussion with your judgmental attitudes about someone you don't even know.

Now, if you'll let us adults talk, we were just covering why utter strangers should be able to see a complete ledger of one another's lives and impede every economic interaction based on personal evaluations of character and social standing.

# ? Apr 10, 2014 05:56

Good Dumplings: Mar 30, 2011; Excuse my worthless shitposting because all I can ever hope to accomplish in life is to rot away the braincells of strangers on the internet with my irredeemable brainworms.

BernieLomax posted:

Sorry, but if I get 2-3 readers to be a tad more critical towards the herd-behaviour in this thread I feel it is time well spent. I'm sorry about all the time you wasted that could be better spent curing cancer or playing dungeon crawl.

I still don't understand why you needed NPOT textures for that demo :confused:

# ? Apr 10, 2014 05:56

boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Eripsa and Bernie hard at work on the next stage of Homo Sapiens evolution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbSFkNaBCTo

# ? Apr 10, 2014 06:03

BernieLomax: May 29, 2002

Good Dumplings posted:

I still don't understand why you needed NPOT textures for that demo

Huh I cannot remember, but perhaps it was for a using fullscreen bitmaps where I wanted proper clamping behaviour. In a different case I was doing loading of general bitmaps. Remember the context? Not that this has been an issue for at least 8 years.

At least now it would be absurd to demand POT textures from anyone. If I remember correctly I figured out the extensions, but it's been a while.

BernieLomax fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Apr 10, 2014

# ? Apr 10, 2014 06:11

Xelkelvos: Dec 19, 2012

BernieLomax posted:

Sorry, but if I get 2-3 readers to be a tad more critical towards the herd-behaviour in this thread I feel it is time well spent. I'm sorry about all the time you wasted that could be better spent curing cancer or playing dungeon crawl.

If multiple people independently come to the same or similar conclusion, would that be considered herd behavior?

# ? Apr 10, 2014 07:02

Pesmerga: Aug 1, 2005; So nice to eat you

I think this thread has run it's course, to be honest.

# ? Apr 10, 2014 07:11

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# ? Oct 10, 2024 14:32

Yiggy: Sep 12, 2004

Pesmerga posted:

I think this thread has run it's course, to be honest.

See you guys again in a few months!

# ? Apr 10, 2014 07:16

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