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Obdicut posted:Because everyone will have a colored halo around their head that has all this nuanced information, and you'll be able to look at it and instantly tell because humans are good at that sort of thing. This is the actual explanation. Awesome. In strangecoin land I can't even look at someone without it being an intrusive experience where I receive the real life equivalent of a pop-up ad. edit: Someone write a proposal for ChickenCoin. Features: -is directly convertable to nutrition -naturally capable of exponential growth -useful for both survivialist compounds hiding from the strangecoin dystopian state and for wandering raiders in the post-strangecoin apocalyptic wasteland -is an actual chicken SickZip fucked around with this message at 11:58 on May 3, 2014 |
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I just wanted to thank whomever retitled the thread.
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SickZip posted:Awesome. In strangecoin land I can't even look at someone without it being an intrusive experience where I receive the real life equivalent of a pop-up ad. No, first we have to make EggCoin. That comes before ChickenCoin.
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So what I'm getting here is that Eprisa is a defender of illustrated child porn and thinks that huge groups of illustrated child pornographers should be able to congregate unmolested in his perfect world, and build their own communities based around the production and trade of illustrated child porn. Basically Eprisa loves child porn is the main salient point.
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No you see he is sarcastically defending illustrated child porn. So it's ok and we're the real monsters. Thus he is the master troll and we are but the sheeples.
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Who What Now posted:So what I'm getting here is that Eprisa is a defender of illustrated child porn and thinks that huge groups of illustrated child pornographers should be able to congregate unmolested in his perfect world, and build their own communities based around the production and trade of illustrated child porn. Considering his history of justifying the value of furry porn in the attention economy thread (because people pay attention to it you see), I would say that we have a pattern of Eripsa using the illict internet sex trade as a go-to reference of a shadow commodity worthy of an extensive social revolution in order to reduce its social stigma. And if in the next generation of Eripsa thread he concludes that 'cyborg rights' include the use of an anime girl body pillow as a critical tool of identity, we'll know exactly what corners of the internet really winds his crank!
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Eripsa is swiftly becoming the Bill Gates of the attention economy because you assholes won't accept that he is literally incapable of arguing in good faith. EDIT: eripsa is just 'aspire' backwards, and truly he has
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"Susan, can you come into my office for a moment?" "Of course, Mr. Galt, how may I help you?" "Susan, you have worked for my company for over 25 years, correct?" "Yes, Mr. Galt. And since my husband and children tragically died ten years ago, this company represents nearly 100% of my income and expenses. Thankfully your company is large enough that this gives me a comfortable enough amount of influence." "Yes, I understand. Now, I see through your most recent audit that you recently donated to the NAACP. Is that correct?" "Well, yes, my husband was African-American, and I myself am 1/4tr black." "Yes, and you see, that's a problem. For I am an enormous racist. Therefore, without your knowledge I have relabeled our coupling as 'Hardcore Child Pornography'. And *I* am the one terminating it with the note 'My company does not support child pornographers'. We are also inhibiting you with the full force of our company." "Mr. Galt, you can't do that! I will just add that this is a lie!" "I can and did. Because the coupling is already severed you can no longer add notes to it. Also, who are people going to believe, the largest and most influential contributor to the network, or a known child pornographer?" "I will be ruined!" "You should have thought about that before you started selling child porn."
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SurgicalOntologist posted:Here's something that directly speaks to what's wrong with Strangecoin (or rather, how the concepts in it are properly applied) and what's wrong with some objections to the ant analogy. Yes, I set aside Friday night to read this 163-page paper. (No, not because of this thread.) Eripsa, read this and then tell us whether or not Strangecoin is a mathematical abstraction of social networks in organisms (such as ants or humans) that functions on a very generalized and abstract level (as the above explains and as you continuously make allusions to), or whether or not it's a proposal for an actual economic system for which you are inferring specific motivations and incentives on the parts of actors involved (like in the example you just posted does?) Strangecoin can either be one or the other: you can't claim a very generalized and abstract level of analysis and then simultaneously claim to be representing an accurate or nuanced model of human motivation in an economic system.
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Is it important whether or not strangecoin is nonlinear, and if so, why? This is the third time I have asked this question.
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RealityApologist posted:I'm fairly sure that logically these four transaction types cover the range of possible transactions types between two nodes on the network, and that any other type of transaction could be constructed from combinations of these. Others in the thread have suggested that an even simpler set of transactions would cover the same logical ground, and that might well be. But none of this enforces the construction of particular kinds of networks, or of organizing labor in any particular way, and more than a traditional currency itself determines the kinds of jobs that are done. JawnV6 posted:"Payments" can't possibly contain all the things that I currently do with money. There's kinda this assumption that a payment covers a single good changing hands. If you tried to arrange a contract like a mortgage where some entity is making a large Payment for me in exchange for a lot of small Payments later, we're hiding information from the network. The network isn't assumed to know about these separate contracts so they're either not allowed and I can never buy a house or some yet-undisclosed-layer is smart enough to figure out the contract from the transactions alone. What I'm getting at is that proof of my network of transactions is already salient. There are existing mechanisms for describing this information and presenting it to others. It might be helpful to describe the SC flavor of how this exact same burden of proof is met. My 'simplification' for mortgages (break into smaller payments) hides my balance from the network. There's no way to tell, from payment history alone, what my current debt total is or even if I'm paying it down. Where the current mechanisms accomplish that and more. I think this area is a much more illustrative way to describe how SC might work than terribly dystopic fiction built on a predicated emotional response.
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RealityApologist posted:
"You're all terrible dumb babby sheep if you engage my arguments in good faith, as presented."  Yes that creepy child porn example which is still terrible because apparently this is actually what you think could happen was obviously meant to be a joke. However, you keep retroactively calling other illustrations and arguments you put forward jokes, or not actually what you meant to say. People ITT can only work with what they're given by you. Some take the piss because there're a lot of people reading this so there'll always be some jokers but you've had more than enough attempts at constructive engagement that the pity party is getting pathetic. Also this: Who What Now posted:"Susan, can you come into my office for a moment?" Eripsa even if your system works as you'd apparently wish it to, it would be the worst thing. Like, beaten by straightup chattel slavery probably but gently caress man, every scenario extrapolated from what it seems you want the system to be is frighteningly awful. NLJP fucked around with this message at 15:21 on May 3, 2014 |
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JawnV6 posted:What I'm getting at is that proof of my network of transactions is already salient. There are existing mechanisms for describing this information and presenting it to others. It might be helpful to describe the SC flavor of how this exact same burden of proof is met. My 'simplification' for mortgages (break into smaller payments) hides my balance from the network. There's no way to tell, from payment history alone, what my current debt total is or even if I'm paying it down. Where the current mechanisms accomplish that and more. You've misunderstood. There is no "debt" in strangecoinland. You can not be in debt, as your account can never go below zero. Anything you wish to purchase that goes beyond your current income's ability to pay is immediately drawn from the money factory in the North Pole that is the TUA. And that's that, you draw from the TUA for a month or until you get your next "income" and bam, back out of debt with a new house. There are a number of reasons why this arrangement is untenable, but really it is beside the point. I'm personally still waiting for Eripsa to realize how in that block of text before his foray into story-time he defeated his own argument about prices and information.
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Jesus this thread took a turn for the disturbing overnight. Peel posted:Is it important whether or not strangecoin is nonlinear, and if so, why? It is and isn't, simultaneously, as needed.
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"Eripsa, I have been talking with the rest of the family and we think it may be best for you if we collectively decouple your endorsements from the trust fund..." "But Mooooooooom I need my smartphone or you're denying my identity! If I can't use the tools that make up my identity to look at porn at McDonalds it is LIKE YOU CASTRATING ME!" "...Get a job, son."
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ProfessorCurly posted:You've misunderstood. There is no "debt" in strangecoinland. You can not be in debt, as your account can never go below zero. Anything you wish to purchase that goes beyond your current income's ability to pay is immediately drawn from the money factory in the North Pole that is the TUA. And that's that, you draw from the TUA for a month or until you get your next "income" and bam, back out of debt with a new house. And instantly become a red-glo pariah because a TUA transaction's on my ledger? No thank you sir. I'll route these things through a third party.
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The funny thing about RA's charming pedophilia story is that it involves coupling (ugh), which he removed from the last spec because he couldn't figure out how it's supposed to work, and it also mentions a whole host of privacy-invading transaction analysis which isn't in the spec at all. I'm pretty sure that the last time someone asked RA to specify exactly what a StrangeCoin user knows about the other party in a transaction, he said it was just their total modifiers, not even who they're coming from. If someone can find that quote in this mess of a thread that would be cool.RealityApologist posted:In the interest of preserving those relations, we're starting a process of inhibition to return most of the coins we acquired over the last few months to TUA. Um, instead of inhibiting future income, which has nothing to do with the tainted payments received in the past, why not just pay TUA directly until the desired sum is returned? By the way, has anyone pointed out that TUA's balance is nearly irrelevant? Either it has the possibility of being drained entirely, in which case the whole system breaks, or it can't ever be drained completely (i.e. when number of users U * balance cap C < number of coins N), in which case it may as well be infinite. Rather, it should probably be infinite in the first place to allow for changes in the balance cap and number of users.
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SickZip posted:Someone write a proposal for ChickenCoin. You forgot -is capable of companionship and affection for owner that no network based currency could produce. Actually, can we make this Doggiecoin? Because I'll gladly trade one grayhound for a new phone, but I want my pug investments to mature for a long time  .
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RealityApologist posted:child porn example What the gently caress is wrong with you? You could have written anything else, and the example would have worked the same way. You could have written about furries or bronies and it would have had the same message without the skeevy undertones. Why did you think it was okay to write this story? How did you expect goons to receive it? Did you expect goons to focus on the technical points of the story you were trying to communicate or get hung up on the big red flashing child porn neon sign? I'll tell you your audience's thought process: at best, you are a terrible writer with no sense of your audience. At worst, you are a secret pedophile because only someone who doesn't understand the inhibition to gently caress children would write poo poo like this.
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Cantorsdust posted:What the gently caress is wrong with you? You could have written anything else, and the example would have worked the same way. You could have written about furries or bronies and it would have had the same message without the skeevy undertones. Why aren't you giving Eripsa discursive charity? Bullying people for using pedophilia as a case example is bad guys 
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Cantorsdust posted:What the gently caress is wrong with you? You could have written anything else, and the example would have worked the same way. You could have written about furries or bronies and it would have had the same message without the skeevy undertones. This. He knows his idea is poo poo and this allows him to ignore actual criticisms by only focusing on the responses that are (rightfully) hammering on him for being a huge creeper. It also helps fuel his martyr complex.
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Who What Now posted:This. He knows his idea is poo poo and this allows him to ignore actual criticisms by only focusing on the responses that are (rightfully) hammering on him for being a huge creeper. It also helps fuel his martyr complex. That's exactly it. He brings up examples like this to easily dismiss those not 'taking him seriously'. See: the starcraft bull. edit: But guys it's only used to illustrate what might happen under my attention economy thing in a jokey way! Yes, that's part of the problem. NLJP fucked around with this message at 18:29 on May 3, 2014 |
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SickZip posted:New idle questions: I actually took a whack at this earlier and Eripsa didn't have anything meaningful to say about it. Essentially, all you need is one guy acting as a bank / passthrough to completely obfuscate every single transaction made. If endorsements really DID work the way Eripsa wants them to (which again there is zero reason to think they would), this service would likely crop up immediately: You give money to Asiv™, and Asiv goes and buys a thing. In exchange, you give them a tiny endorsement, 0.01% or something. They do this for everything — food, hardcore porn, whatever. Your endorsement makes Asiv look better to merchants, and that endorsement is a small price to pay for keeping your connections anonymous. Once such a service gained a large market share, the entire tracking network falls apart unless Asiv chooses to link you to your transaction (which there's little objective reason for them to do). Money funneling and system-gaming is maybe the only interesting side effect of SC... except that, as always, the literal money tree that is TUA undermines and obliterates anyone's incentives to do anything, and makes those endorsements totally meaningless.
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NLJP posted:That's exactly it. He brings up examples like this to easily dismiss those not 'taking him seriously'. See: the starcraft bull. I still don't know whether or not Eprisa is actually smart enough to make such explicitly bad faith arguments on purpose or not. Every example he gives has a small bit of complete retard in it that at least one person is going to call out, and he invariably uses that call-out as his new focus whenever more qualified and on-top criticisms are leveled his way. But that would require a level of self-awareness and guile that I'm not sure he possess. VVVVVVVVVVV But then how would we know how smart he is?! Who What Now fucked around with this message at 18:50 on May 3, 2014 |
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DrProsek posted:You forgot Your example probably belongs with the RealDollCoin, though. As propagandist of an attention-based economy, I feel my own start wandering. Eripsa is slacking off and posting three paragraphs of mumbo jumbo instead of trying to actually give a clear single-sentence answer to things. Could you maybe try doing that, Eripsa? Just boil your no doubt highly technical and convoluted response down to something like a TV soundbite? Five to fifteen seconds, without veering off into related stuff. Because then we can ask about that for the next soundbite, and get this rolling. Please?
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Hey, you know what's really funny? Those 'Randian speeches' at the end are almost complete indistinguishable from most of your non-sarcastic posts in this thread and others. Like all you have to do is change it from first person to third and it could be one of your earlier posts. What I'm saying is you're kind of really dumb about everything and you type like an rear end in a top hat who thinks he knows best about things he knows nothing about. Hope that helps.
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I'm going to give him the benefit of a doubt and say that he was merely being really intellectually dishonest with the pedophile example. He just needed to get that extreme because most lesser cases of dirty money would be clearly something people wouldn't give a poo poo about. Like it's fairly widespread knowledge that the diamond industry is dirty as hell and responsible for violence and slavery and they aren't exactly hurting. The liberalest and the gayest of us still buy from Saudia Arabia and Russia. He had to resort to a dedicated pedophile network and have the guy producing child pornography in his official capacity since we have real life examples of pedophiles within businesses and no one giving a poo poo. The movie and music industry both have pedophiles working for them and its not really effecting their bottom line or the number of people willing to work with Polanski. How many professional sports teams have had rapists and other sex offenders working for them? And these are businesses that are closest to currently being an attention economy, imagine how much less of a poo poo are people going to give about steel or oil or real estate and about the kind of less immediately and viscerally repulsive crimes that they commit. edit: how does this even work with commodities? are we going to keep every vendor's supplies seperate or do I just see percentages of evil on things like gallons of gas and loaves of bread. SickZip fucked around with this message at 19:18 on May 3, 2014 |
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SickZip posted:edit: how does this even work with commodities? are we going to keep every vendor's supplies seperate or do I just see percentages of evil on things like gallons of gas and loaves of bread. No it's not evil, it's judgement-free. It's not like "gay man made this, it's pink," it's like "Hogarth Eriksen made this," and if you delve into Hogarth Eriksen's profile for some unfathomable reason, you might note a subscription to Cockgobblers Mag Inc amongst his thousands of outgoing transactions. Or, "Leroy Malamute made this," and you note that he also traded with a lumbersmith in Oregon who gets his lumber from a man in Philly who bought his axe from Jerry Sandusky's second cousin, and then you think "hmm, do I want to be connected to Jerry Sandusky?" and so you kill you are self.
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So, did eripsa write that to sort of try to trigger a "welp. time to lock the thread & goldmine." moment?
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I strongly suspect that he can't get out of his own head for long enough to realize that other people might not find it as titillating as he apparently does.
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Come on guys, Eripsa has no interest in pedophilia. He was simply using it as an attempt to: 1) Clarify the functioning of Strangecoin (which he can't do because he doesn't know what it is or how it works) 2) Retreat into "LOL if you guys are taking this seriously" mode 3) Simultaneously double down on seriousness, and for at least the fifth time dispose with any pretext that StrangeCoin was conceived as being limited in scope, a game or anything other than the vehicle to usher in an e-ticker tape parade for himself, Eripsa, herald of the post-meaning world, prophet of our age and personification of the final crisis of capitalism, for whom Assange, Manning and Snowden served only as John the Baptist to his Jesus of Nazareth
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I think eripsa just broke poe's law. also i don't want to read this thread anymore.
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"Move it, scrub, we're using the computer." "What? No you're not, Mom said I can play on it until she comes back from work." "Mom's not here dumbass." Matt pushed Brian off his chair and into the floor, and then pulled the chair out and gestured with a flourish. "Your table awaits, sir." Jack jumped into the chair, dug around in his pockets for a small thumb drive, and pushed it into the computer, which made a satisfying THONK-THONK sound in response. "What's that?" Brian asked, picking himself off the floor. "It's a botnet," Jack replied with a grin. "Jack's a hacker," Matt told Brian matter-of-factly. "You better not break the computer or I'm telling Mom." "We're not going to break the computer you dweeb. We're going to make you rich." Jack clicked around for a bit and was soon staring at a command line. "What's his account number?" Matt pulled a wad of paper from his pocket: account statements from last season's audits, recently procured from his parent's office down the hall. Matt read a long string of letters and numbers off the paper, which Jack entered into the computer. After three tries and several more protests from Matt, Jack finally got the program running. On the screen, his blinking cursor had been replaced by a short list of labels followed by a set of numbers, some of which were static and others of which were changing: code:"What is that?" Matt asked again. "He said its a botnet, dumbass. It's like stealing." "It isn't like stealing," Jack quickly replied. "It's just whipping. It goes away in like half a second." "What goes away?" "All the money we're making for you, kid." "What do you mean, money?" "Money, Brian. Strange. Don't you know anything? See, I told you my brother was a dweeb." "You know what Strangecoin is, don't you Brian?" Jack asked earnestly, happy for the chance to show off his knowledge to another rapt audience. "You mean the viewers?" "Yeah, that's what the viewers are for. poo poo, we need those to watch it happen." Jack swiveled towards Matt. "Do you have any lying around?" "Sure we do, they're in the office," Matt said, and ran off down the hall. "So you know how the viewers lets you see how people glow? All the colors and shapes?" "Yeah, my mom lets me look through ours all the time. She says it's like a game that grown ups play, but it seems boring to me. It's like watching the weather channel. Besides, me and all my friends glow white in the viewers because we're not old enough. Matt too. So I don't see any point." Matt returned with three small black headsets that looked like high end swimming goggles, with elastic straps and completely black lenses with many sharp edges. "Put them on anyway, dumbass." The boys all donned the headsets, and a low hum filled the room as the viewers turned on and the images came into focus. After a few seconds warming up, the boys were greeted with a more or less identical perspective on the room to the one they enjoyed unmediated just moments earlier. But there were differences that made their perspective unmistakably distinct. For one thing, the edges of the visual field seemed to curve away like a fisheye lens. Everything had the almost uncomfortably crisp color of HD video, the sort of color that is absent from the grimey dullness of the real world on all but a few days in spring. When the viewer first starts up and the image loads, a flurry of white outlines trace out the edges of each object in the visual field, indicating that the set's native object recognition has successfully identified the object and cross-referenced its various functions. There is a slight greying of objects whose specific identities were not known exactly, like the few books on the shelf in the background whose spines are too thin and distant for the onboard cameras to discern-- the viewer is pretty sure it's a book, but which book it can't yet tell, and will have to wait for the opportunity for a closer look. As the viewer's perspective on the world adjusts there are occasional flashes of white outline, as if the viewer is cheering at another successfully recognized object. The results of these miniature celebrations are tiny digital artifacts that sometimes surround objects between image refreshes, just barely perceptible evidence of the computer algorithms at work in the construction of the image. The most salient feature of the viewers is the way it presents other humans who happen to be standing in the visual field. Through the viewer, all three boys were replaced by avatars of their exact shapes and proportions, but skinned with an animated texture that looked like the glowing surface of a writhing white hot star. The avatars has edges that indicated clothing but did not otherwise appear to be clothed or to have any specific anatomical features-- except for facial features, configured to closely resemble the person being viewed and move as the person talked and looked around. So these avatars looked like the people you expect to see, and you have no trouble identifying people by their avatar. Even still, a viewer of this scene would appear as if three glowing white ghost children were standing around a computer desk. If viewing weren't such a mundane experience it would have been a shocking thing to witness. Underneath both Matt and Brian's avatar was a warning label in large red letters: PRIVATE/MINOR NO TRADES AVAILABLE But underneath Jack's avatar was a yellow label reading: PROBATIONARY SOME TRADES AVAILABLE Neither Matt nor Brian knew what that meant, and were embarassed to ask. But before they could Jack interrupted: "It's almost time! Look! Look!" Jack looked back and forth from the timer to Brian. The timer hit 0, and the computer issued a beep. 20ms after the beep, exactly the round trip lag between Jack's botnet and Brian's account, Brian's avatar suddenly grew several orders of magnitude in brightness and intensity: still white, but now blindingly so. For almost exactly 500ms, or the average response time for the network to identify and revert whipping attacks, Brian's avatar continued to glow at this new intensity, and then returned to its previous rate nearly identical with the other boys. Although it was literally over in a flash, those 500ms were enough time for Jack and Matt to begin issuing a behavioral response: averting their eyes and the beginnings of a laugh. Brian also issued a behavioral response in his amygdala, experiencing a heightened sense of anxiety, making his eyes grow wide and his palms start to sweat. And then it was over. The two older boys burst out laughing, while Brian continued to look down at his glowing body in nervous fear. "What did you guys do? What just happened?" Jack looked at the screen between howls. "Well, Brian, for almost half a second the world thought you were making 4000 bucks a second. For just a moment you were the richest person in the world." "That was stupid." Brian said. "That was awesome." Matt said. "How did you do that?" "I used a botnet. I set up a bunch of fake accounts that keep trading coin among themselves in a circle to ramp up their coin velocity. You can make as much money as you want in a botnet like this, just by trading around coins. You have to do it slowly and randomly so the computer believes its real for long enough to do something with it. What's why they call it whipping, because it looks like you can keep making more coin just by stirring the network, but you're really just whipping in air and not adding any substance. It's not real money because there's no real people to actually trade anything. And its not stealing because you aren't taking anything from anyone. We're just playing with bots, it's no big deal. After a few minutes of whipping I told it to transfer to your account, and when it did it made you glow really bright in the viewer. But then the network managers caught it and reverted the transfer and shut the botnet down and everything returned to normal. I can start up another one real quick if you want to see it again. You can do it a few times with minor accounts before anyone gets suspicious." "How did they know it wasn't real?" "Something about how the pattern of activity in the botnet doesn't fit the expected patterns of natural organization. I don't know all the details. I just know this script was released on the 2600 forums this morning and its supposed to be the only one that can still get past the Strangecoin network defenses, at least for half a second. The website is filled with people trying to use it to scam people, but as far as I can tell the only thing you can do with it is flash someone's viewer avatar like we did to Brian. It goes away too fast to do anything useful or really convince anyone you have more money than you do. I saw one guy with a set-up that created a bunch of botnets so that when one shut down the next started up. He kept flashing for almost 2 full seconds until the network shut down his account for suspicious activity. But even that didn't really work because it flickered. A real aura doesn't flicker." "So big deal. So you flashed me, I don't see what's so funny about it. My mom's avatar is way cooler than that, it has this big black snake on the back because she trains at Cobra Kai." Brian reached up to pull off his headset, but Jake stopped him. "You want to see something really awesome? I learned how to jailbreak my account and start my probationary period early. So I'm already trading real coins on the network. Check this out," Jake said. He entered a new number at the prompt to start another timer, this one shorter than before, and then turned around to present the left shoulder of his avatar to the other boys. Although most of Jake's avatar was a writhing, milky white almost as pure as theirs, on Jake's left shoulder sat a dark green smudge that looked rather like someone stepped in the poo poo of a sick dog. Jake displayed the mark proudly to the others. "That's the 2600 official green avatar. I've gotten enough upvotes on the forum that they just gave me this. Watch." The timer hit zero and the computer beeped again. Jakes avatar just barely perceptibly flashed for 500ms and then dimmed again. But smudge on Jake's left shoulder swirled and appeared to grow out from his body, coming to take on the shape and dimensions of a small yellow capacitor protruding from a green silicon board. After a few seconds the image sank back into the white background of his avatar skin, and the capacitor and board returned to the proportions of smudged dogshit. "If I keep writing for the hacker forums, I'll eventually get a whole circuit board on my back." "That's so cool." "A black cobra is way cooler than a computer," Brian said, and ripped his headset off. RealityApologist fucked around with this message at 19:59 on May 3, 2014 |
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May 3, 2014 19:50
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All the kids these days read the 2600 forums
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May 3, 2014 19:58
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I'm honestly, completely honestly, more interested in reading Neal Stephenson / Phillip K. Dick -esque fiction exploring the ramifications of that Strange than going through another bloviate calvinball about a game/currency/economy. Because for an idea that is and was always a product of profligate leisure time, its better to use it on making something entertaining than 'smart'.
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May 3, 2014 20:00
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Well he has devolved to writing trashy scifi, I think that's an improvement.
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May 3, 2014 20:01
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It's telling, Eripsa, that you have to resort to writing lovely fiction instead of answering the numerous real questions people have posted in the thread. edit: Cantorsdust posted:Okay, now. REAL QUESTION: Using my UEV economic system where the seller only cares about getting the price they've set, why should they care whether or not the money comes from a hobo drawing on TUA or a millionaire paying out of pocket?
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May 3, 2014 20:01
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Wee Tinkle Wand posted:Well he has devolved to writing trashy scifi, I think that's an improvement.
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May 3, 2014 20:07
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