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embiid 41 32.28%
wiggins 86 67.72%
Total: 127 votes
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Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

Jabari workout video is up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSDl9JF5hvU

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Ty1990
Apr 22, 2011

My disappointment in not getting #1 is fading after seeing more and more good things coming from Parker and Embiid. I've known how good those guys are for the entire season but between Embiid's back and Parker's defense I had fallen in love with Andrew Wiggins. Truth be told, I really think there are 3 superstars in this draft and the fact that the Sixers got into the top 3 (which in reality was only roughly a 50/50 chance) is reason to be happy enough.



I can't wait until next month.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Tae posted:

This is honestly my first time seeing him, wow that's definitely a reason to be a top 3 pick. That's a really smooth jumper.

The fun thing watching him last year was seeing him improve week to week. Like if hosed while being double teamed, within a game or two he would be ready for it and make the right pass out of it. I seriously can't say I've seen a guy who clearly improved as quickly and noticeably as he did last year.

EDIT:

quote:

chadfordinsider Chad Ford
Wiggins' workout was great. Working on keeping low, small tweaks to his 3-shot, terrific midrange game + craziest athlete in draft

The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 20:09 on May 25, 2014

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?

WEREWAIF posted:

Thanasis Antetokounmpo and PJ Hairston are intriguing at 38. What do yall say?

Hariston probably won't last that long and why do you want the older, smaller, shittier Antetokoumpo brother?

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends
Plaster Town Cop

MourningView posted:

Hariston probably won't last that long and why do you want the older, smaller, shittier Antetokoumpo brother?

Cool name

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Embiid and wiggins look like a lock for 1-2. Their physical abilities at 19 are scary.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Still waiting for Declan bios on the top players. Come on Declan.

bearic
Apr 14, 2004

john brown split this heart
For some real dunk porn, watch Embiid's high school mixtape here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0nxBm5TaI0

Compare his jumpshot/post motions from the draft workout vs. high school mixtape. Insane how much smoother his shot/moves are now, but the athleticism is the same. He throws down a ton of Dwight Howard throw-the-ball-in-from-above dunks.

roundmidnight
Jul 9, 2010
It looks like he's dunking on an eight foot rim.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

euphronius posted:

Still waiting for Declan bios on the top players. Come on Declan.

I have Tuesday off, I'll do them then, be prepared for a lot of 'oh man so amazing wow such basketball very upside' in a lot of different ways

bearic
Apr 14, 2004

john brown split this heart
Chad Ford tweeted out the measurements for Embiid/Wiggins/Parker:

Embiid: 7' 1" in shoes, 7' 5.75" wingspan, 9' 5.5" standing reach.
Wiggins: 6' 8.75" in shoes, 7' 0" wingspan, 8" 11" standing reach.
Parker: 6' 9" in shoes, 6' 11.75" wingspan, 8' 11.5" standing reach.

They must be wearing Cole Aldrich shoes because each of them is an inch or two taller than I expected. Just compare the Wiggins measurements to Randle from the combine:

Randle: 6'7.75" w/o shoes, 6'9" w/ shoes, 7'0" wingspan, 8'9.5" standing reach.


For further reference--Embiid's numbers are about the same as Brook Lopez's, a bit better than Tyson Chandler's, and a few inches (between wingspan/height) better than both Oden/Noah. For Wiggins, assuming Ford's numbers are correct, consider this: (EDIT) I'm a dummy and can't read the measurements (END EDIT)

bearic fucked around with this message at 02:10 on May 26, 2014

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

That's nuts for Wiggins. Those must be lifts or something.

bearic
Apr 14, 2004

john brown split this heart

Declan MacManus posted:

That's nuts for Wiggins. Those must be lifts or something.
Yeah I'm not sure if they played the numbers with lifts, Ford's numbers are wrong, or DraftExpress' numbers are wrong. The DX wingspan numbers are all about the same as Ford's, but all the heights are about an inch off (both with shoes). Maybe they all really did grow an inch over the season? Yet again, they measured Randle at 6'10" in their database and he's under 6'8" in socks, so those Jordan Brand Classic/McD All-American numbers are often junk. If Embiid/Wiggins are both actually measuring out with those numbers in normal shoes, then good lord. Regardless, the Wiggins wingspan number is already putting him in the measurables HoF alongside Alexis Ajinca and Rudy Gobert.

bearic fucked around with this message at 01:47 on May 26, 2014

Bashez
Jul 19, 2004

:10bux:

vegaji posted:

There are no players in the DraftExpress database with a 7' wingspan who are under 6'9" with shoes.

This can't be right. Leonard is 6'7" and has 7'3" wingspan.

chunkles
Aug 14, 2005

I tell you the truth: one of you chumps will betray me
Robert Covington is like 6'6" and has a 7'1" wingspan.

bearic
Apr 14, 2004

john brown split this heart
poo poo, you're both right, I was misreading the info really really horribly. My bad!

bearic fucked around with this message at 02:08 on May 26, 2014

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

i really want to see the wiggins workout

Cigar Aficionado
Nov 1, 2004

"Patel"? Fuck you.
Embiid in real shoes is probably closer to 7' than 7'1, but he's got a 7'6 wingspan and is now 265 of muscle, so that's insane.

I've been an ardent Wiggins proponent but you almost can't pass up Embiid at #1 with those measurements (not to mention everything else he brings to the table). That length combined with the athleticism, it really does look like Embiid's practising on an 8 foot hoop.

Totally different point: Anthony Bennett has consistently measured 6'7 in shoes but is billed by ESPN and a few other places at 6'8. I'm inclined to think he's 6'7, is there any proof he's taller than that? Poor Bennett.

Cigar Aficionado fucked around with this message at 04:29 on May 26, 2014

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
Basically everyone except Kevin Garnett is listed as taller than they actually are.

BIZORT
Jan 24, 2003

Parker's workout video was a lot more impressive than Embiid's. Parker's jumper looks fantastic, too. Is he primarily a perimeter guy?

Keep in mind I never watched Parker play before this video and I only saw Embiid play for about 5 minutes in some random Kansas game months and months ago

IanTheM
May 22, 2007
He came from across the Atlantic. . .

BIZORT posted:

Parker's workout video was a lot more impressive than Embiid's. Parker's jumper looks fantastic, too. Is he primarily a perimeter guy?

Keep in mind I never watched Parker play before this video and I only saw Embiid play for about 5 minutes in some random Kansas game months and months ago

He looked pretty square though, and didn't move that well laterally. Maybe that's just the low angle though.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?

BIZORT posted:

Parker's workout video was a lot more impressive than Embiid's. Parker's jumper looks fantastic, too. Is he primarily a perimeter guy?

Keep in mind I never watched Parker play before this video and I only saw Embiid play for about 5 minutes in some random Kansas game months and months ago

He was nominally a power forward but did most of his scoring from the perimeter, yeah. He started the college season off absolutely on fire from three, then cooled way down at the start of conference play, and then heated up a little bit towards the end of the year. He is also pretty good at catching the ball on the block and either facing up to blow by slower guys or punishing smaller guys with his post game. Scoring will probably not be an issue.

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

No no no. gently caress off Philly paper

Philly Inquirer posted:

Here's a prediction: The 76ers will pick a big man with their third overall draft selection if Jabari Parker and Andrew Wiggins are gone.

Except, this prediction is that it won't be Joel Embiid. It will be Julius Randle or Noah Vonleh.

District Selectman
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

That looked really nice too. Fluid rear end jumper. I'm gonna be legit excited whoever the Sixers get.

Quest For Glory II posted:

No no no. gently caress off Philly paper

Ha, except for that. I think it's like lovely GM PTSD

Spacebump
Dec 23, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations

Quest For Glory II posted:

No no no. gently caress off Philly paper

I want Philly to end up with Embiid and Saric. I really want to see Embiid and Noel play together.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Would Embiid be able to work as a 4 if the team drafting him already had a traditional center?

Because if the Cavs are dumb enough to give us their pick for Love I'm curious about if he'd be on their radar for the pick.

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

BIZORT posted:

Parker's workout video was a lot more impressive than Embiid's. Parker's jumper looks fantastic, too. Is he primarily a perimeter guy?

Keep in mind I never watched Parker play before this video and I only saw Embiid play for about 5 minutes in some random Kansas game months and months ago

The problem is that the workout video doesn't show defense which is Parker's weakness. He's an offensive machine.

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends
Plaster Town Cop

IcePhoenix posted:

Would Embiid be able to work as a 4 if the team drafting him already had a traditional center?

Because if the Cavs are dumb enough to give us their pick for Love I'm curious about if he'd be on their radar for the pick.

He probably could, but why would you waste a potentially great player at a scarce position that way

BIZORT
Jan 24, 2003

kiimo posted:

The problem is that the workout video doesn't show defense which is Parker's weakness. He's an offensive machine.

I'm not trying to get defensive at all over the videos but Embiid's shows him doing the Mikan drill, shooting a couple of very flat 15 footers, and basically just dunking beyond that. Parker's has a lot of dunking too but he shows a lot of quickness and shooting range, along with some good iso moves. I just don't really see what people are drooling over with that Embiid video. I'm not saying he's not any good or anything like that; I have almost nothing to go off of to make that claim. I just haven't seen the proof yet. He's quicker than most but he does look a bit mechanical, too

chunkles
Aug 14, 2005

I tell you the truth: one of you chumps will betray me

IcePhoenix posted:

Would Embiid be able to work as a 4 if the team drafting him already had a traditional center?

Because if the Cavs are dumb enough to give us their pick for Love I'm curious about if he'd be on their radar for the pick.

Just throw away your existing center and go with Embiid.

Chances are he'll be in foul trouble his entire first year anyway so there might not even be a minutes problem.

EvanTH
Apr 24, 2004

i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd
Was hoping they had a Wiggins video, he's been NBA-smooth since 17 and I want to see how much he's improved. They got this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1cxcDSzDB0

Good that he has a little range. A whole lot of it looks like things that should never be happening in an NBA game but that's impressive size. What's his deal, did he stagnate this season?

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?
He actually got worse last year but he's always been pretty bad. He's a huge wuss who wants to stand around jacking up jumpers even though he is 7 feet tall and not especially great at shooting jumpers. He's averaged like 5 rebounds a game last year. His hype was all projection based on his size and ability to dribble at a vaguely competent level for someone that big, but he never actually gave any signs of living up to it.

MourningView fucked around with this message at 18:41 on May 26, 2014

cisneros
Apr 18, 2006
7 footers moving usually looks like this http://youtu.be/KyADXpenxzU

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

WEREWAIF posted:

He probably could, but why would you waste a potentially great player at a scarce position that way

It worked for Tim Duncan

chunkles posted:

Just throw away your existing center and go with Embiid.

I don't think I could put into words how horrified I was at Pek's contract when we re-signed him

roundmidnight
Jul 9, 2010

IcePhoenix posted:



I don't think I could put into words how horrified I was at Pek's contract when we re-signed him

Pekovic is really good. He's an 18/9 guy and he makes what, 12m? It's reasonable.

Spacebump
Dec 23, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations

roundmidnight posted:

Pekovic is really good. He's an 18/9 guy and he makes what, 12m? It's reasonable.

Isn't the bigger problem that Pek and Love aren't a good defensive combination for the TWolves starting big men?

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends
Plaster Town Cop
Yes. They lack rim protection. Dieng looked really good over the last quarter of the season, though. It should mean they lose less close games next year, at least if he keeps it up.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

roundmidnight posted:

Pekovic is really good. He's an 18/9 guy and he makes what, 12m? It's reasonable.

He also only plays in like 50 games a season and doesn't play defense.

I like Pek, a lot actually, I just think he's way overpaid.

ButtWolf
Dec 30, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Im getting on board with Stauskas. I think he could be a great piece ala late Ray Allen, current Redick.

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Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

IcePhoenix posted:

He also only plays in like 50 games a season and doesn't play defense.

I like Pek, a lot actually, I just think he's way overpaid.

I think you should go look at what people who are over 6'9" make and then look at what they can make if they can average more than two field goals a game.

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