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Inside Outside posted:Draft Express has already updated their mock draft. Wiggins first, Exum third, Embiid fourth. Hello Orlando, may I interest you in a Rajon Rondo? I will lose my poo poo. Can't wait until he leaves for LA in 2022.
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Jun 19, 2014 22:08
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Count me on board for trading 3 and 10 for the first overall...
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Jun 19, 2014 22:40
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Ty1990 posted:Count me on board for trading 3 and 10 for the first overall... I don't think they're going to do that now. It's a lot less attractive when the top tier of the draft is two guys instead of three.
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Jun 19, 2014 22:44
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If the Cavs are still high on Embiid (but not high enough to take him #1) or are smitten on Exum, they can definitely get that 3+10 package out of the 76ers now. Maybe even get Thad Young out of them too if they really want.
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Jun 19, 2014 22:52
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Ty1990 posted:Count me on board for trading 3 and 10 for the first overall... This would be a stupid move and if the Sixers did it they would deserve all the bad poo poo that happened to them afterwards, especially considering that the Cavs are high on Exum as well and the #2 pick on the Bucks' board after Embiid is Parker. If you want Wiggins he might still drop to you and if not oh no you have your choice of phenomenal high upside prospects Trading up when you're that shallow at every position is a bad call, especially trading two lottery picks in a stacked draft
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Jun 19, 2014 22:55
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Hinkie is probably gonna get Wiggins and Embiid if people start overreacting to overreactions
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Jun 19, 2014 22:57
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We are a week out and no one has any idea.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:03
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Best predraft ever
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Jun 19, 2014 23:17
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euphronius posted:We are a week out and no one has any idea. And its not like last year where we had no idea because everyone was equally terrible
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Jun 19, 2014 23:19
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Remember when people were saying Cavs promising to draft Dion Waiters was some kind of smokescreen.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:19
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chunkles posted:Remember when people were saying Cavs promising to draft Dion Waiters was some kind of smokescreen. Waiters got a promise from the Suns and then parlayed that into not working out for anyone which caused the Cavs to freak out and grab him in a panic Funny poo poo
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Jun 19, 2014 23:20
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Hoops Rumors posted a mock draft that has Embiid falling to the Celtics oh my god it's happening No it isn't they're just a rumors site with no sources
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Jun 19, 2014 23:22
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Inside Outside posted:Hoops Rumors posted a mock draft that has Embiid falling to the Celtics oh my god it's happening No it isn't they're just a rumors site with no sources The Celtics are probably getting a better player than they should be (hint it's Vonleh, Exum, or Randle) and will be annoyingly good again soon enough
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Jun 19, 2014 23:24
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People completely writing off Embiid are really stupid, considering Len was taken at 5 last year with a bad foot injury. Of course, there was poo poo talent at that point, but if you still think Embiid can be a really good player and not retire after 3 years, he's going 3-6. I've heard Magic fans say they wouldn't take Embiid at 12 which is hilarious when you look at the 12 picks from the last decade.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:28
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I'm praying that somehow the Sixers get Wiggins at 3 and Embiid at 10.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:37
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iamsosmrt posted:I'm praying that somehow the Sixers get Wiggins at 3 and Embiid at 10. This would be so amazing. I wouldn't put it past the Cavs to take Exum. If I'm the Sixers and Wiggins falls in my lap at 3, I'm on the phone with everyone between 4-9 to move up for Embiid.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:41
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I don't see Embiid getting past the Lakers even if his foot is falling off, because Kupchak would totally draft him just to trade him.
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Jun 20, 2014 00:07
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Rick posted:I don't see Embiid getting past the Lakers even if his foot is falling off, because Kupchak would totally draft him just to trade him. The Celtics have also already said that the injury doesn't scare them, and according to CSNNE (the station that airs all their games) they're even looking into trading up for him.
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Jun 20, 2014 00:08
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Deadbeat Dad posted:People completely writing off Embiid are really stupid, considering Len was taken at 5 last year with a bad foot injury. Of course, there was poo poo talent at that point, but if you still think Embiid can be a really good player and not retire after 3 years, he's going 3-6. I've heard Magic fans say they wouldn't take Embiid at 12 which is hilarious when you look at the 12 picks from the last decade. Len was taken in a weak draft where everyone mocked in the lottery had some kind of issue. Embiid is a much better prospect, but the second tier of this draft is also pretty good.
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Jun 20, 2014 00:13
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Declan MacManus posted:Waiters got a promise from the Suns and then parlayed that into not working out for anyone which caused the Cavs to freak out and grab him in a panic I think the story is that he stopped working out and his agent hinted that he had a promise in the mid-lottery, but he never actually had one.
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Jun 20, 2014 00:15
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MourningView posted:I think the story is that he stopped working out and his agent hinted that he had a promise in the mid-lottery, but he never actually had one. It was this. The funniest thing is that Waiters even came out the day before the draft and admitted that there was no promise. The Cavs, being the Cavs, still took him.
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Jun 20, 2014 00:19
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People assumed it was Phoenix because Phoenix was looking into a Nash successor (Marshall  ) but it was never confirmed it was Phoenix. In fact I think people were speculating over whether it was Toronto or Phoenix
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Jun 20, 2014 00:20
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I've decided that I am going to be unsurprised when Cleveland fails to surprise me with their terrible surprise pick, or incredibly surprised when they make an unsurprising good pick. Sam Bowie kept breaking his legs in turn not his foot, but he was drafted to the Blazers while Bill Walton's career was ending from foot injuries. If you wwould like any additional help with exceedingly pedantic corrections to jokes feel free to PM me
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Jun 20, 2014 00:34
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WhyteRyce posted:Len was taken in a weak draft where everyone mocked in the lottery had some kind of issue. Embiid is a much better prospect, but the second tier of this draft is also pretty good. Much better prospect is putting it lightly. Like I said, they just need to gather a lot of information on if his injuries are more likely to be a recurring thing. Yao had the same injury and it caused him to basically retire (but had way more wear and tear) - he's not Yao's size or weight though. Jordan also had the same surgery and we know how that turned out, but he's not 6'6 and his weight either.
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Jun 20, 2014 01:04
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My mental chart of injuries seems to say that a broken foot is fine for guys who are young, and that they recover from them completely like they never happened. As players get older, this injury goes from being something players easily get over, to permanently limiting their effectiveness, ultimately to being something that makes retirement necessary. However, ACLs pretty much hamper guys no matter what age they are.
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Jun 20, 2014 01:05
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I understand the answer to this is 'because it is Cleveland' but why are they not (seemingly) keen on Wiggins? They are a tire fire at SF at the moment assuming Deng leaves, and they already have several guys that play PG/SG. Is Exum insurance for when Kyrie leaves? Or do they seriously believe Lebron is going to come back and fill that void?
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Jun 20, 2014 01:06
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EMC posted:I understand the answer to this is 'because it is Cleveland' but why are they not (seemingly) keen on Wiggins? They might think Deng is coming back or they might think that Bennett is the long term solution at the 3 or they might just be going "BPA figure it out later" Alternatively, acute mental retardation
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Jun 20, 2014 01:07
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After watching Patty Mills MC the Spurs victory parade/pep rally thing, I'd draft Exum first overall just to have someone that cool sounding on my team.
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Jun 20, 2014 01:13
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EMC posted:They are a tire fire at SF at the moment assuming Deng leaves, and they already have several guys that play PG/SG. Is Exum insurance for when Kyrie leaves? Or do they seriously believe Lebron is going to come back and fill that void? Anthony Bennett is 6'7", he can definitely play SF
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Jun 20, 2014 01:15
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chunkles posted:Anthony Bennett is 6'7", he can definitely play SF Anthony Bennett is fat, he can definitely play PF
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Jun 20, 2014 01:17
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He can play SF in the sense that I am 6ft 3 and can play PG too, neither of us seem NBA caliber though
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Jun 20, 2014 01:21
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I was pretending to be a Cavaliers GM, the real answer is that the Cavs love to fool themselves into drafting for need when they really should just focus on drafting NBA quality players
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Jun 20, 2014 01:25
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Hah every other post in this thread has an ironic/sarcastic joke that could be accepted as a reasonable statement if you barely knew anything about basketball it might be tricky to read if you're just coming in to learn about the draft and they don't know you guys are a bunch of merry pranksters and gadabouts. ooo Oak Hill is playing Montverde on ESPN if anyone wants to see a few four and five star recruits go at it or just simply watch some basketball any basketball at all
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Jun 20, 2014 01:39
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Am I wrong for still being prepared to pull the trigger on Embiid at 3 if that's the way the chips fall? A lot of my friends are making me feel like in wrong.
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Jun 20, 2014 02:05
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I have not seen his foot x-ray but it's probably fine.
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Jun 20, 2014 02:07
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aBagorn posted:Am I wrong for still being prepared to pull the trigger on Embiid at 3 if that's the way the chips fall? Having no clue about the prospects in next year's draft, I do know the Sixers don't have a major incentive to make the playoffs due to a prior trade with lottery protection. The biggest possible benefit of taking Embiid (and not pressuring him this season) would be to essentially make him this season's Noel as they tank for another top 5 spot in the draft with little pressure to make major team improvements. Of course, in my mind, had Embiid still been healthy, I think my ideal scenario would've been getting Wiggins, playing a season that starts off fairly poorly and ends on like a 15 game winning streak, finishing at say, 10th in the East. That flash of hope would carry over into the off season where they draft a decent top ten player and sign one or two major free agents, making the 2015 season the one of high expectations. My realistic main concern is that this Embiid injury pushes back the Sixers' plan for longterm success one whole year if they can't get a true franchise player in this draft.
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Jun 20, 2014 02:24
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They're curing diseases every day man they might even have a way to heal broken bones soon and I say roll the dice.
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Jun 20, 2014 02:42
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MourningView posted:I think the story is that he stopped working out and his agent hinted that he had a promise in the mid-lottery, but he never actually had one. Talk about earning your cut.
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Jun 20, 2014 02:43
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MourningView posted:I have not seen his foot x-ray but it's probably fine. Isn't a broken foot a pretty serious injury for a big man given their shelf life?
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Jun 20, 2014 02:44
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Not to say that it isn't a big deal (it is), but I'd argue good big men have a longer shelf life than any other position (see Malone (x2), Duncan, Garnett, KAJ, Parrish)
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