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Jun 8, 2014 00:16
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Josh Lyman posted:Will their next horse be named California Steel? I seriously hope their next horse is named "gently caress you" Maybe make it look like some japanese word like "fukiu"
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Jun 8, 2014 00:17
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Josh Lyman posted:Will their next horse be named California Steel? da-da-da da, da, da
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Jun 8, 2014 00:17
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What the hell were they just doing?
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Jun 8, 2014 00:17
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Peanut President posted:Imagine if you can sit your starters the whole season then just show up at the World Series/Stanley Cup/Super Bowl with your main guys who have been rested all season.
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Jun 8, 2014 00:18
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Chokes McGee posted:Well that was certainly a wild emotional ride! I don't think I've ever seen a Triple Crown cycle this all over the place before. To the glue factory with you!
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Jun 8, 2014 00:19
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Hey Costas, remember right before the race when you said a NY/LA sports championship portended a Triple Crown?
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Jun 8, 2014 00:19
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Is it just me or does it seem like there are a lot of Hispanic jockeys?
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Jun 8, 2014 00:20
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Josh Lyman posted:Will their next horse be named California Steel? California Firefox
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Jun 8, 2014 00:20
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Josh Lyman posted:Is it just me or does it seem like there are a lot of Hispanic jockeys? Hispanics always take american jobs.
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Jun 8, 2014 00:20
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Chokes McGee posted:I was there when Eight Bells died. quote:"ANIMALS CAN'T GO TO HEAVEN. MY SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER TOLD US. DON'T BLASPHEME YOU PEOPLE. PS get well soon." — age 8, Westchester, WA.
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Jun 8, 2014 00:20
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Quest For Glory II posted:Imagine if a more tortured and impossible analogy could be wrenched from the divine spark Imagine a thread sperging about rating e3 presentations.
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Jun 8, 2014 00:20
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Josh Lyman posted:Hey Costas, remember right before the race when you said a NY/LA sports championship portended a Triple Crown? Does that mean we get a new pair of teams? I'd be ok with that.
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Jun 8, 2014 00:21
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Peanut President posted:Imagine a thread sperging about rating e3 presentations. that's some Keanu Reeves in The Replacements poo poo
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Jun 8, 2014 00:21
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LA electrified by hockey? Sure...
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Jun 8, 2014 00:23
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Quest For Glory II posted:E3 is fuckin fun as poo poo, now explain why an NFL team would not be entitled to do whatever they wanted if their entire bench started and got to the playoffs and then the super bowl
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Jun 8, 2014 00:23
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The Colonel handling this with proper Southern grace. Yeah it's totally unfair that Chrome had to deal with fresh horses...you know, like every other Triple Crown contender ever. Dude's going out like a bitch. I do think they should spread out the races a bit more, but I think that's more of an issue with Derby->Preakness. At least I can say I've seen the TC trophy up close at the Kentucky Horse Park, because I may never see it handed out again. 
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Jun 8, 2014 00:25
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Peanut President posted:It is bullshit. Imagine if you can sit your starters the whole season then just show up at the World Series/Stanley Cup/Super Bowl with your main guys who have been rested all season. It's loving garbage and it's no surprise that no one watches horse racing anymore. But the Triple Crown winners had all beaten new horses in the Belmont, with the same intervals between the three races, those horses were just that much better than the rest of the horses their age. Also if you only allowed horses that competed in all three to race, you'd have like 5 horses left in the Belmont, as every year the owners of a decent portion of the Kentucky Derby field decide afterwards "Nah, my horse really isn't up to this level of competition right now, I think I'll go somewhere softer." And keep in mind the Triple Crown isn't really "fair" in the first place, it's only open to 3-year-olds, for one, and most horses are more developed and faster at 4. Really, if you want to see the fastest horses on dirt, you've got to wait till the Breeder's Cup Classic in the fall, it doesn't have any stupid age restrictions. Sucrose fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jun 8, 2014 |
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Jun 8, 2014 00:26
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Quest For Glory II posted:E3 is fuckin fun as poo poo, now explain why an NFL team would not be entitled to do whatever they wanted if their entire bench started and got to the playoffs and then the super bowl The horses that ran the Belmont didn't race the other two races. They sat out. It's dumb they're allowed to do that.
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Jun 8, 2014 00:26
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Like if a baseball team of 4th and 5th outfielders, pitchers and infielders made it to the world series that would be awesome and Jeffersonlives would have a stroke from posting endless rants about them not belongingPeanut President posted:The horses that ran the Belmont didn't race the other two races. They sat out. It's dumb they're allowed to do that.
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Jun 8, 2014 00:26
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Quest For Glory II posted:Like if a baseball team of 4th and 5th outfielders, pitchers and infielders made it to the world series that would be awesome and Jeffersonlives would have a stroke from posting endless rants about them not belonging I'm aggravated and I took it out on you, I apologize. I actually like your e3 thread, to be perfectly honest.
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Jun 8, 2014 00:29
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Honestly dont worry about it because we'll forget that horse racing even exists after today The next important sporting event is on July 4th in Coney Island anyway
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Jun 8, 2014 00:30
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Quest For Glory II posted:Honestly dont worry about it because we'll forget that horse racing even exists after today You know what? You're right.
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Jun 8, 2014 00:34
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Sucrose posted:But the Triple Crown winners had all beaten new horses in the Belmont, with the same intervals between the three races, those horses were just that much better than the rest of the horses their age. Also if you only allowed horses that competed in all three to race, you'd have like 5 horses left in the Belmont, as every year the owners of a decent portion of the Kentucky Derby field decide afterwards "Nah, my horse really isn't up to this level of competition right now, I think I'll go somewhere softer." I would think that there'd be more carryover into the Preakness & Belmont, under the notion that the field can only get smaller and everyone's equally tired. It would also prevent a horse that gets hurt in the Derby from running the Preakness or Belmont, which is a lovely precedent to set. If you changed the rules so the Triple Crown could be handed out to a horse that wins the Derby & beats all of the Derby competitors that run the Preakness & Belmont even if they don't win those races, that's an option that'd appease the angry multi-millionaire redneck.
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Jun 8, 2014 00:37
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Quest For Glory II posted:Honestly dont worry about it because we'll forget that horse racing even exists after today 
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Jun 8, 2014 00:44
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oldskool posted:If you changed the rules so the Triple Crown could be handed out to a horse that wins the Derby & beats all of the Derby competitors that run the Preakness & Belmont even if they don't win those races, that's an option that'd appease the angry multi-millionaire redneck. This would be very silly and I hope it's not the point you're actually trying to make. I can't even tell anymore, I'm still reeling from that epic meltdown. The main causes as to why we haven't had a triple crown winner are three-fold:
At this point, I don't think anyone's gonna get it until they change the format. Big Brown was roided out of his skull and still couldn't get across the line. (Though to be fair, it was because New York took one look at Dutrow and went "lol no.")
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Jun 8, 2014 00:45
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Chokes McGee posted:This would be very silly and I hope it's not the point you're actually trying to make. I can't even tell anymore, I'm still reeling from that epic meltdown. In my opinion the real problem is there's so many horses, and the horses are bred so very, very similarly to each other, and the speed of race horses has been dead flat for 70 years, that no horse is ever a true standout among the others. The number of foals for the racing industry had been rising and rising every year until the recession, so there's just no shortage of them, ever. They all come from practically the same bloodlines. They're (almost) all descended from Secretariat or Seattle Slew or both, multiple times over due to inbreeding. Most of them are bred specifically to run a mile to a mile-and-a-quarter on dirt, specifically. In my opinion that's the reason for it. You churn out thousands of nearly identically-bred horses, all geared towards a handful of the same races, and the best of the best of those are going to have very similar results. Horses won triple crowns in the 70s because there weren't as many of them to compete with.
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Jun 8, 2014 01:01
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Peanut President posted:It is bullshit. Imagine if you can sit your starters the whole season then just show up at the World Series/Stanley Cup/Super Bowl with your main guys who have been rested all season. It's loving garbage and it's no surprise that no one watches horse racing anymore. Comparing this to team sports is wrong. Instead think about if John McEnroe was whining about tennis players making it to Wimbledon without playing in every tour event.
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Jun 8, 2014 01:31
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Josh Lyman posted:Is it just me or does it seem like there are a lot of Hispanic jockeys? Fair number of smaller guys, some of them cut their teeth in podunk races before coming to the US to make real money (and not all of them illegally even).
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Jun 8, 2014 01:34
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oldskool posted:I would think that there'd be more carryover into the Preakness & Belmont, under the notion that the field can only get smaller and everyone's equally tired. They actually did something like this for a while, though it was just a money bonus based on placings in each race. Granted I don't think running them all was required, but it was definately skewed towards getting at least 2 placings.
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Jun 8, 2014 01:40
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Moktaro posted:Comparing this to team sports is wrong. Instead think about if John McEnroe was whining about tennis players making it to Wimbledon without playing in every tour event.
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Jun 8, 2014 01:41
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Just got back from Belmont. Kind of conflicted. Went to place $5 on California Chrome as a novelty to say I bet on the triple crown winner, but either I was kind of drunk or it was kind of loud so the lady punching in the ticket must have heard "11 in the 11th race" instead of 2. I didn't even notice until 30 seconds before the start. 4 hours later I think I would have preferred to see the triple crown win.
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Jun 8, 2014 05:15
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haha the owner is continuing to make a complete rear end of himself, calling the other horse's owner a "goddamned cheater"
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Jun 8, 2014 05:44
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NBC sells the Triple Crown as a final stage and until the last few years I thought it was the same field in each race. Not as three separate tournaments like the Aussie Open, French Open, Wimbledon, etc. Over the last two years Costas has failed to explain clearly how the Triple Crown works. I guess it makes the Triple Crown a more rare feat and that much more impressive, but it's like letting Usain Bolt or Michael Phelps sit out of the prelims because they were sick and got better for the finals.
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Jun 8, 2014 05:46
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I wouldn't say it's like that because the Kentucky Derby is probably the one race everyone would choose to win if they could only win one. For someone who knows more about horses than I do (anything really): really how much of a factor is fatigue in these things? Everyone keeps talking about it but like...I thought the entire point of thoroughbreds was that they were bred to run. Do they really need a month off to be in top shape after running a race?
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Jun 8, 2014 05:52
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:haha the owner is continuing to make a complete rear end of himself, calling the other horse's owner a "goddamned cheater" Truly this is the sport of kings; the king in this case, is Joffrey
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Jun 8, 2014 05:54
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Grittybeard posted:Do they really need a month off to be in top shape after running a race? Stress and fatigue of travel can take its toll even with time off (former swimmer here, you're not always at top of your game). California Chrome's jockey implied that he just felt off but good. I can't imagine what it is like for an animal who is not fully understanding what is going on to suddenly be surrounded by 100,000 people screaming. Even if properly tapered for the big events sometimes you're still fatigued.
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Jun 8, 2014 06:08
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:haha the owner is continuing to make a complete rear end of himself, calling the other horse's owner a "goddamned cheater" Looks like Team Dumbass (Stables) is blasting off again! Also yeah, it's not like anyone intentionally skips the Derby because they'd rather win the Belmont, more that they just need the extra time to hit their peak. And double lol to the notion that anyone would run just to beat his horse, he certainly didn't waste any time going from 'working class hero' to entitled jerk. Moktaro fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Jun 8, 2014 |
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Jun 8, 2014 06:35
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Moktaro posted:Looks like Team Dumbass (Stables) is blasting off again! Yeah, the horse that won the Belmont (Tonalist) didn't qualify for the Kentucky Derby, he won a fairly major race a couple weeks after the Derby and then got into the Belmont based on that. At the time the Triple Crown races are run, the horses are still really young and maturing, so it wouldn't really be fair to bar horses peaking later from running in the Preakness or Belmont just because they didn't win races months before that would qualify them for the Derby.
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Jun 8, 2014 07:21
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Moktaro posted:Looks like Team Dumbass (Stables) is blasting off again! Trainers picking spoilers is a well known """"fact"""" in horse racing.
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Jun 8, 2014 07:30
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