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oh my god this is one dumb video game Rody One Half fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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Nov 24, 2014 20:25
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Rodyle posted:oh my god Now Fate/hollow ataraxia, there's something that is good that I like. I'm sad that I already played it because I would really like to play the Vita version just to hear everything voiced.
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Nov 24, 2014 20:30
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Rejoice! I'm sure that the Vita Patch will take so long to come out that by the time it's downloadable you'll have forgotten most of it anyways!
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Nov 24, 2014 20:43
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I was thinking about buying the 10th anniversary box with the original PC versions of Fate/stay night and hollow ataraxia because it's the 10th anniversary now and it won't be the 10th anniversary next year or the year after that or even the year after that. If the bizarre idea of playing these games again ever manifests in my head, I look forward to then buying the newest, best versions of these games so I can have fully-voiced versions of both without the lovely sex scenes.
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Nov 24, 2014 20:54
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Nate RFB posted:Some of that may be because of a lack of an immediate pay off to Shirou's arc, or because of biases from how how he was portrayed in the first series, but the net result is they won't get aboard the Shirou train and that is a sort of a showstopper attitude to have in a story like UBW. At least UBW and Heaven's Feel both had big payoffs to Shirou's character arc, I can't really say the same for Fate. He just gets saved by Saber and Tohsaka over and over again and then he stabs an old man to death, THE END. Sure he learns not to be a chauvinistic prick but he also goes on with his stupid ideals unsullied and becomes Archer.
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Nov 24, 2014 21:02
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Xoidanor posted:At least UBW and Heaven's Feel both had big payoffs to Shirou's character arc, I can't really say the same for Fate. He just gets saved by Saber and Tohsaka over and over again and then he stabs an old man to death, THE END. Sure he learns not to be a chauvinistic prick but he also goes on with his stupid ideals unsullied and becomes Archer. Where do you get the idea that Fate Shirou becomes Archer?
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Nov 24, 2014 21:13
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Silver2195 posted:Where do you get the idea that Fate Shirou becomes Archer? Although I guess it isn't Shirou explicitly becoming Archer since the Archer in the narrative is supposed to come out of an Ilya route (right?) so the Shirou would just become an Archer like person. Unless the Servant Archer is basically just a combination of multiple timelines of Archer-like Shirous-- Yeah, I'm done here. Point is, Word of God says Fate Shirou most likely to be Archer.
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Nov 24, 2014 21:22
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Chances to become Archer: Fate:25% UBW:10% HF:0%
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Nov 24, 2014 21:24
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Silver2195 posted:Where do you get the idea that Fate Shirou becomes Archer? It's the only path where the "save everyone" ideal comes out alive (emboldened even thanks to Saber) which then leads into UBW and I don't care that you probably have your finger on a fate/stay-fact™ that disproves me because it just fits so well.  I mean Archers arc in UBW culminates in Shirou literally and figuratively slashing his ties to that ideal.
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Nov 24, 2014 21:27
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Xoidanor posted:It's the only path where the "save everyone" ideal comes out alive (emboldened even thanks to Saber) which then leads into UBW and I don't care that you probably have your finger on a fate/stay-fact™ that disproves me because it just fits so well. I figure came from a route with Ajax, Fergus mac Roich, and Kanshou and Bakuya.
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Nov 24, 2014 21:39
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Twiddy posted:Some source material, Nasu gave the percentage chances of Shirou becoming Archer after each route, and Fate had the highest percent chance at like 20%. Heaven's Feel was at like 0% because Heaven's Feel. That's still well under 50%. To say that Fate Shirou "becomes Archer" is a bit odd. "Archer is from the Ilya route" is one of those things people keep repeating on no real basis. People seem to really want Archer to be a pedo for some reason. If anything, I think he's from the Ciel route. (Only half joking.)
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Nov 24, 2014 22:31
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Archer is a result of Carnival Phantasm continuity.
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Nov 24, 2014 22:43
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Nate RFB posted:Everything with Kariya was pretty great too. Basically if you are a character with greater motivations beyond pleasing yourself you got hosed hard in Fate/Zero. Except Kayneth, he got hosed the most.
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Nov 24, 2014 22:43
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Kayneth deserves it though, gently caress the mages society in general Kiritsugu was doing god's work by taking them out.
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Nov 24, 2014 22:45
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Poor Diarmuid, sigh…
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Nov 24, 2014 22:55
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jellycat posted:Poor Diarmuid, sigh… Sucks extra because he died thinking Saber was also part of the deception. I really liked them being Honor Bros with each other. 
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Nov 24, 2014 23:30
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That reminds me, did Diarmuid cursing the grail actually mean anything? Because it was pretty cursed at that point anyway.
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Nov 24, 2014 23:32
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I think Diarmuid was mostly cursing Kiritsugu (and maybe Saber), and that probably didn't do anything except make me sad.
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Nov 24, 2014 23:55
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HellCopter posted:That reminds me, did Diarmuid cursing the grail actually mean anything? Because it was pretty cursed at that point anyway. Cursing their enemies as they die is just a Celtic hero thing. But usually the curses work or are really drat prophetic.
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Nov 25, 2014 00:01
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Honestly the weirdest part about the whole Shirou thing to me is how much people reject the idea of a flawed protagonist who matures as the show goes on. It's like if you're not a Hollywood action movie star from the word go you're automatically a whiny brat. It's like that basically everywhere else too. In other news, F/HA is still the best and should get an anime.
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Nov 25, 2014 00:02
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Can Shiki break Crazy Diamond?
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Nov 25, 2014 00:19
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jellycat posted:I think Diarmuid was mostly cursing Kiritsugu (and maybe Saber), and that probably didn't do anything except make me sad.   
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Nov 25, 2014 02:14
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Silver2195 posted:That's still well under 50%. To say that Fate Shirou "becomes Archer" is a bit odd. I think the theory came from the fact that he recognized the corrupted grail shadow monster when it appeared in HF, and since HF had elements of the abandoned Ilya route in it and obviously HF Shirou can't become Archer and Fate/UBW Shirous never saw the grail beast, you could theorize that it'd have to have been some 4th route.
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Nov 25, 2014 02:23
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Rodyle posted:Tell me how this makes you feel Gross, Diarmuid is a knight. Treat him with more respect than this.
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Nov 25, 2014 02:28
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Blhue posted:I think the theory came from the fact that he recognized the corrupted grail shadow monster when it appeared in HF, and since HF had elements of the abandoned Ilya route in it and obviously HF Shirou can't become Archer and Fate/UBW Shirous never saw the grail beast, you could theorize that it'd have to have been some 4th route. Obviously things went differently in Archer's timeline, but that doesn't mean he couldn't have hooked up with, say, Saber. The differences could simply be the result of Archer's own actions compared to the non-EMIYA Archer from his own timeline. As for Archer encountering the Shadow, that could easily be a similarity to the Fate/UBW timelines; we don't know the details of what happened when Rin and Waver dismantled the Grail. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Nov 25, 2014 |
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Nov 25, 2014 02:32
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Beef Waifu posted:Gross, Diarmuid is a knight. Treat him with more respect than this. Diarmuid has been consistently voted the Servant Most Likely To Be Wedgied.
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Nov 25, 2014 02:39
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HellCopter posted:That reminds me, did Diarmuid cursing the grail actually mean anything? Because it was pretty cursed at that point anyway.
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Nov 25, 2014 02:47
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Rodyle posted:Tell me how this makes you feel Good, good. Thank god for Japan. They understand me.
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Nov 25, 2014 02:52
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Eh, I can take it or leave it. More of a Fake Assassin/Ryuudo Gate person myself.
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Nov 25, 2014 03:17
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Mr. Grail, Mr. Grail! The UBW thread thinks Shiro is lame!
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Nov 25, 2014 03:27
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Here you go. The Good Post Magnet!!
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Nov 25, 2014 03:39
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jellycat posted:Good, good. Thank god for Japan. I don't think I've ever seen dominant Diarmuid artwork. Good work for once Japan.
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Nov 25, 2014 03:42
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jellycat posted:Here you go. ...
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Nov 25, 2014 03:45
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Go forth and make everyone agree with you. Everyone.
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Nov 25, 2014 03:46
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jellycat posted:Here you go.  Its for posts like these I sometimes wish we had a rudimentary karma system until I remember D&D exists. 
Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Nov 25, 2014 |
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Nov 25, 2014 04:12
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I'm just waiting for Archer to start his monologuing so I can post his thesis on the merits of rescuing kittens from trees.
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Nov 25, 2014 04:20
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Archer is cool and I await to hear Junichi Suwabe's dulcet tones wax and wane on why Shiro is the dumbest motherfucker ever, then he gets beaten by a teenager in a battle of wills.
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Nov 25, 2014 04:22
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i hope there is a dub and liam O'brian reprises his role as archer
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Nov 25, 2014 04:26
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Don't call me a hero, I just ruined this kitten's life.
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Nov 25, 2014 04:26
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Cake Attack posted:i hope there is a dub and liam O'brian reprises his role as archer Same but add Gilgamesh as Grant George
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Nov 25, 2014 04:28
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