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BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

There's a two page spread in the latest Dengeki Hobby that is literally just Saber and Totally Not Saber figures.

Whoever makes these things better be called Unlimited Saber Works.

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Nyaa
Jan 7, 2010
Like, Nyaa.

:colbert:



Waver turn into a badass? :stare:

Xarbala
Feb 13, 2011






What, Lord El-Melloi II? What about him.

Nyaa
Jan 7, 2010
Like, Nyaa.

:colbert:


Oh, wow, I have a lot to catch up.

lizurcainnon
May 5, 2008


from google translate's attempt at Rider's twitter feed, I suspect she's watching Legend of the Galactic Heroes

Bakanogami
Dec 31, 2004




Grimey Drawer

lizurcainnon posted:

from google translate's attempt at Rider's twitter feed, I suspect she's watching Legend of the Galactic Heroes

She was indeed. Their april fools thing for this year has just wrapped up. They had two gimmicks with an idol agency run by Extra Saber and some sort of Youkai Watch capusle gacha parody thing, plus some other accounts not affiliated with either.

Some highlights:

-The aforementioned Rider spending all day watching Legend of Galactic Heroes and Tweeting about it.
-Mordred buying an ero-doujin of her father and freaking out. Also getting a wooden sword as a souvenir for Lancelot along with a note that "It can't shoot beams"
-Spartacus working as an Idol scout and constantly getting arrested.
-With Shirou out, Saber making a bowl of Yakisoba with Spam and Mayonnaise for lunch.
-Shirou and Kotomine are Phoenix Wright and Edgeworth for some reason.
-Tohsaka getting arrested for tax evasion

And a bunch of other stuff.

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this


The Capsule Servant thing came from the minigame that replaced Hanafuda in HA Vita.
https://wakameparadise.wordpress.com/capsule-servant/

That's also where Jeanne's new personality came from. :v:

IIRC Mordred was stalking following Saber.
Apparently Saber used to be a legendary idol.


E: oh right. While Shirou's lawyering it up, Archer defeats crime more directly.

Kyte fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Apr 1, 2015

Tonfa
Apr 8, 2008

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...



Rewatching F/Z, there's a part where Irisviel is drifting around with a top end sports car.

Ilya has an event in F/HA where she seemingly randomly nerds out about cars.

The continuity :vince:

Allarion
May 16, 2009

がんばルビ!


Tonfa posted:

Rewatching F/Z, there's a part where Irisviel is drifting around with a top end sports car.

Ilya has an event in F/HA where she seemingly randomly nerds out about cars.

The continuity :vince:

F/Z came out after F/HA, and might have been written in parallel to it. There's a lot of little F/Z references in it.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010



College Slice

Bakanogami posted:

-Tohsaka getting arrested for tax evasion

This was amazing.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009



also heaven's feel manga preview went up. the person behind it said that they like the matous a lot, so it'll probably dig more into the Zouken/Kariya/Shinji/Shinji's dad situation. Here's a picture of Shinji.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010



College Slice

Endorph posted:

also heaven's feel manga preview went up. the person behind it said that they like the matous a lot, so it'll probably dig more into the Zouken/Kariya/Shinji/Shinji's dad situation. Here's a picture of Shinji.



Without any context and despite everything I already know, I feel a slight twinge of sympathy for Shinji as to what drove him into being an unrepentant dick.

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D


Yer a wizard, Shinji. :(

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

New 15 sec CM for the 2nd cour is up:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxDO8LHTswo

Dat Gil and Berserker foreshadowing, along with Ilya. Man, people are going to lose it when Doctor Gil is on the case.

Also, quick shot of Saber in the wedding dress, so that's still in there.

Can't wait until this Saturday... All that HYPE!

And of course the comments for the video are filled with people bitching about the adaptation and dropping spoilers. What I've come to expect from the Type Moon fanbase, but worse due to the nature of YouTube comments...

GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Apr 2, 2015

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013



Can't wait to see people lose their poo poo about Wedding dress-Saber, at least I'm sure the magical vibrator will be gone.

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D


Bholder posted:

Can't wait to see people lose their poo poo about Wedding dress-Saber, at least I'm sure the magical vibrator will be gone.

The most necessary scene in the history of necessity... God, even if they're gonna cut out the really creepy poo poo, nothing stops the awful feelings of :froggonk:

Aumanor
Nov 9, 2012


Bholder posted:

Can't wait to see people lose their poo poo about Wedding dress-Saber, at least I'm sure the magical vibrator will be gone.

Bholder posted:

magical vibrator

I... WHAT? :what:

Xarbala
Feb 13, 2011






Aumanor posted:

I... WHAT? :what:

Porn.

Aumanor
Nov 9, 2012



I mean, I've played the VN and read Seorin's LP, and I can't recall anything of the sort. The magical vibrator, that is. Even rereading the scene now, I have no idea what that could be refering to.

Sylphid
Aug 3, 2012


So, it's been a while since I played Fate, so my memory could be a bit off, but the next sequence of events that happens in the story from where season one ended was that Caster "kills" Kirei and takes over the church, Rin and Archer go after Caster to kill her, he betrays her, and then Rin and Shirou team up again and come up with the idea of asking Ilya and Berserker for help. That could be a good way to end the first episode of the new season.

YggdrasilTM
Nov 7, 2011



Episode 13 should end with the graveyard scene.
Episode 14 should be on Caster past and evocation.
Episode 15 should have the Berseker/Gil battle and the Ilya flashback

HiveCommander
Jun 19, 2012



Compendium posted:

Yer a wanker, Shinji.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

YggdrasilTM posted:

Episode 13 should end with the graveyard scene.
Episode 14 should be on Caster past and evocation.
Episode 15 should have the Berseker/Gil battle and the Ilya flashback

Sounds about right. I keep hearing Episode 15 for when Doctor Gil makes his appearance.

Tonfa
Apr 8, 2008

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...



What did the Tohsakas even get out of giving Sakura as a weapon to the Matous, or did they just do that because raising one child is enough work :effort:

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Tonfa posted:

What did the Tohsakas even get out of giving Sakura as a weapon to the Matous, or did they just do that because raising one child is enough work :effort:

Protection from strangers who might steal her for her rare and unique ability, and the opportunity to have their rare and unique child be brought up as a first-rate magus and not a might-have-been.

...it didn't really work out.

point of return
Aug 13, 2011

by exmarx


IIRC the idea is that Tokiomi didn't want to have his two daughters fighting each other in order to get the most powerful of his spells (which have some bizarre transfer process) and he wasn't aware of just how terrible the Matou magic process is.

dudermcbrohan
May 14, 2013


It's going to be a while but there's a voice patch for hollow ataraxia in the works. http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5657-Fate-Hollow-Ataraxia-Voice-Project

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

PRETTY SURE THAT ONE'S SARCASM, BOSS



Yeah you can only pass the family magic to one child (remember Tohsaka magic works through heirlooms so you can't divide it up without weakening it) and I guess having a second highly jealous child could screw things up. Heck, imagine Shinji only he has enough latent magical ability to be a real threat.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

You know, Aiko...
I really wanted to be killed by you.


Tonfa posted:

What did the Tohsakas even get out of giving Sakura as a weapon to the Matous, or did they just do that because raising one child is enough work :effort:

Watch Fate/Zero. Tokiomi outlines the whole (hosed up) rationale behind the decision during the mid-story boss battle.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010



College Slice

point of return posted:

IIRC the idea is that Tokiomi didn't want to have his two daughters fighting each other in order to get the most powerful of his spells (which have some bizarre transfer process) and he wasn't aware of just how terrible the Matou magic process is.

Eh, I think the primary issue was Sakura actually just like Tohsaka has a natural affinity for a special kind magic (albeit a different kind) so if she didn't become a Magus, then she'd naturally attract a lot of weirdness and be unable to live like a normal person, eventually the Association would kidnap her and put her in a jar unless she was a proper Magus.

Now as for why they couldn't just have her start her own branch family and develop her own Crest from scratch I imagine most Wizards completely can't think outside the box where Crests are concerned.

Which kinda reminds me of an earlier question I don't think was answered but, what if Kiritsugu could somehow implant his Crest into Shirou without killing him, how much different would Shirou's magic be? Would he still be able to project swords and still access Unlimited Bladeworks but now with Time Magic to go with it or would it completely alter his make up?

booksnake
May 4, 2009

we who are crowned with the crest of wisdom

Avalon is powerful as heck so I'd imagine the former?

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012



Irony Be My Shield posted:

Yeah you can only pass the family magic to one child (remember Tohsaka magic works through heirlooms so you can't divide it up without weakening it) and I guess having a second highly jealous child could screw things up. Heck, imagine Shinji only he has enough latent magical ability to be a real threat.

Heirlooms have nothing to do with it. The heir is designated by who the head chooses to pass the family's Magic Crest to - and each family only has one(there's one exception, like there is to most stuff in the Type Moon universe). The Crest both allows quick-casting of all the spells ingrained in it and will passively attempt to keep its owner alive if I recall correctly(pretty sure it was the Crest healing Rin enough that she didn't die of blood loss near the end of Fate route). More importantly, that designation as heir comes with Clocktower protections. In general family heirs are considered off-limits to other mages outside formal duels or whatever, as the Association takes a dim view on that sort of thing and has Enforcers to hunt down those who violate it. A child without that protection but a high number of high quality circuits, as well as a nigh-unique Origin? The Clocktower couldn't give a poo poo if something happened to them, and you can almost guarantee that something would. In general mage families with multiple children either use them for cementing political alliances or just let them do whatever, leaving it up to their personal effort as to whether they accomplish anything within the Association or not. And if they're powerful or unique? They better learn to protect themselves drat fast, or they'll likely be kidnapped by some extremely unethical and/or rogue magus for experiments. And keep in mind that multiple children are not exactly common to begin with.

So from Tokiomi's perspective, it was a way to both give Sakura that protection and importance. Kariya's ranting about how horrible the training was didn't register for a number of reasons. For one, because ALL magus training is extremely hard, regardless of the family. Each family is also HIGHLY SECRETIVE as to their training techniques, so there's no way he could have known what Matou training entailed. So when he's told by someone he viewed as a slacker who'd abandoned his family responsibilities for years that Sakura was being put through hard training, he understandably viewed it as whining - possibly with hint of jealousy, if he was aware of Kariya's feelings towards Aoi. This is not to say that Matou training isn't horrific even by magus standards, because it is, but rather that Tokiomi would not have any reason to think that just because Kariya was saying it was hard. Honestly, I'm decently sure that a decent number of Association families would be horrified/disturbed/disgusted at Matou's methods, but again, it's a SECRET.

And yeah, family disputes do happen too, so that admittedly factored in as well. For a prime example of that, look at the Aozakis.

Lord Koth fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Apr 3, 2015

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

PRETTY SURE THAT ONE'S SARCASM, BOSS



I wonder what would have happened if Kariya had just been a bit more specific

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Basically the entire situation with Sakura could have been resolved safely if Kariya and Tokiomi could talk like civilized adults for like, five minutes.

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D


Fate/Zero is, by all means, about how adults can't solve problems and thus why we have Japanese high schoolers deal with their leftover bullshit.

ZepiaEltnamOberon
Oct 25, 2010


"Hey Tokiomi your daughter is learning magic through the power of dickworms you jackass. No, stop laughing. I'm being serious here."

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this


If Kariya had been less concerned about trying to get his self-insert fantasy to work and more concerned with actually helping Sakura he would've tried to work with Tokiomi instead of getting himself killed like a chump.

And then he might've succeeded.

Ergo Kariya couldn't do it, because to be Kariya is to be a loser. :v:

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...



Compendium posted:

Fate/Zero is, by all means, about how adults can't solve problems and thus why we have Japanese high schoolers deal with their leftover bullshit.

There's a reason Waver's the only Master to have a positive character arc.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

You know, Aiko...
I really wanted to be killed by you.


BlitzBlast posted:

Basically the entire situation with Sakura could have been resolved safely if Kariya and Tokiomi could talk like civilized adults for like, five minutes.

Well, Kariya was practically insane by that point. Have you ever been talking to someone but were so tired that you couldn't get words out clearly and got frustrated on why the other person wasn't understanding you or was straight ignoring you? Yeah. Imagine that but after getting internally consumed by dickworms for a year beforehand.

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009



AlternateNu posted:

Well, Kariya was practically insane by that point. Have you ever been talking to someone but were so tired that you couldn't get words out clearly and got frustrated on why the other person wasn't understanding you or was straight ignoring you?
i think that's called autism

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