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Heavens feel is like the Char's counterattack of the nasuverse
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Apr 11, 2021 05:17
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Fate is 77, UBW is Empire, and HF is Return.
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Apr 11, 2021 09:44
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Gaius Marius posted:The easiest way to think of the Routes is in terms of Kanye albums I buy this.
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Apr 11, 2021 12:44
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I think the real question is which route is The Chronic, which is 2001, and which is Compton.
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Apr 11, 2021 14:37
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but which one is the dark souls of the nasuverse?
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Apr 11, 2021 14:51
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I'd love a Platinum style fighting game in the Fate-verse. Screaming Rules of Nature while Saber beats gently caress out of some giant Beast. I guess there's the Extella musou games but they don't really click the same way.
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Apr 11, 2021 15:56
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Hf3 was loving rad. Rider v saberalt was incredible. but I agree it’s missing some serious explanation of what the gently caress is going on at the end. If you aren’t a turbo nasuverse nerd it’s not especially apparent.
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Apr 12, 2021 02:08
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When Rin blew up her gem sword and tried to go in with a knife was that her actual plan? She had to know Sakura could shrug off stab wounds right?
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Inflammatory posted:but which one is the dark souls of the nasuverse? Angel Notes.
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Polgas posted:When Rin blew up her gem sword and tried to go in with a knife was that her actual plan? She had to know Sakura could shrug off stab wounds right?
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Apr 13, 2021 14:36
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Polgas posted:When Rin blew up her gem sword and tried to go in with a knife was that her actual plan? She had to know Sakura could shrug off stab wounds right? I seem to recall the VN implying pretty strongly that despite all her talk, Rin wasn't actually willing to kill Sakura when it came down to it.
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Thuryl posted:I seem to recall the VN implying pretty strongly that despite all her talk, Rin wasn't actually willing to kill Sakura when it came down to it. Except for the bad end where she does.
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Apr 13, 2021 16:26
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Thuryl posted:I seem to recall the VN implying pretty strongly that despite all her talk, Rin wasn't actually willing to kill Sakura when it came down to it. Except, well, "Oh, I can't".
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Apr 13, 2021 16:41
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It just occurred to me, how was Shirou able to project Rule Breaker? I guess it means that Archer encountered it at some point? Would that "some point" be his random adventures, or does he (Archer) have a specific, presonal canon FSN route that he went through? Or did he go through them all? If he went through them all, it kinda makes his performance a bit unremarkable considering this is almost New Game+ for him
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Apr 13, 2021 16:45
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Shirou saw it in the first film.
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Apr 13, 2021 16:52
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Shirou sees Rule Breaker when he and Saber confront Caster where it looks like she had murdered Kuzuki with it.
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OnimaruXLR posted:It just occurred to me, how was Shirou able to project Rule Breaker? I guess it means that Archer encountered it at some point? Would that "some point" be his random adventures, or does he (Archer) have a specific, presonal canon FSN route that he went through? Or did he go through them all? If he went through them all, it kinda makes his performance a bit unremarkable considering this is almost New Game+ for him Shirou just by looking at a Sword basically knows everything he needs to know about it; and basically he saw Rule Breaker when Shirou and Saber were at the temple when the Shadow ate Medea.
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Apr 13, 2021 17:06
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Both the anime and the VN went out of their way to show Medea holding Rule Breaker when Shirou arrived.
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Apr 13, 2021 19:46
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Yeah that's a big Chekhov's Gun they make sure to set up.
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Apr 13, 2021 22:21
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I still don't understand why Rider's NP is called Bellerophon when it's loving Pegasus. I mean, I understand the tangential story link between the name and the creature, but it still makes no loving sense. Nasu gonna Nasu, I guess.
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Apr 13, 2021 22:37
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NP names aren't always literally the thing in question. Sometimes it's a reference to something else.
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Apr 13, 2021 22:56
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"He is also known for capturing the winged horse Pegasus with the help of Athena’s charmed bridle, and earning the disfavour of the gods after attempting to ride Pegasus to Mount Olympus to join them."
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Apr 13, 2021 23:28
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medusa's big np is blood fort andromeda
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Apr 13, 2021 23:28
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Honestly the weirdest part to me is that her EYES aren't her big NP, since that the main thing she's remembered for. Other than the snake hair, of course, but it seems that part was metaphorical or something.
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Apr 13, 2021 23:39
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It's sorta works given that half her deal in the novel is the difference in how she is vs how she's perceived.
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Apr 13, 2021 23:40
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Aurora posted:"He is also known for capturing the winged horse Pegasus with the help of Athena’s charmed bridle, and earning the disfavour of the gods after attempting to ride Pegasus to Mount Olympus to join them." Thanks for quoting wikipedia like I didn't already know that.  So this begs the question on what Bellerophon would think of Medusa having a NP with his name. He's obviously famous enough to be a servant in his own right.
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Apr 13, 2021 23:45
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AlternateNu posted:Thanks for quoting wikipedia like I didn't already know that. Mordred's NP shares its name with Arturia.
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Apr 13, 2021 23:50
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Raenir Salazar posted:Mordred's NP shares its name with Arturia. That makes more sense though, as the whole point of released Clarent is that it is fueled by Mordred's hatred of her father. And it isn't like "Arthur" is the name of the sword, just a form of Clarent.
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Apr 13, 2021 23:56
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It is basically Mordred yelling gently caress you Dad but doing so shoots a giant laser beam.
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AlternateNu posted:Thanks for quoting wikipedia like I didn't already know that. don't ask stupid questions ig
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Gaius Marius posted:It's sorta works given that half her deal in the novel is the difference in how she is vs how she's perceived. But her eyes at least seem to work similar to the legends.
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Apr 14, 2021 00:13
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Yeah but at a lesser effect, like how she really isn't as bad a person as she seems in legend. In all honesty I think the Servants in base fate are weak as hell. Half are gods or demigods that's some nonsense, nearly all the spinoff's have done better
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Gaius Marius posted:In all honesty I think the Servants in base fate are weak as hell. Half are gods or demigods that's some nonsense, nearly all the spinoff's have done better You mean from a story/character perspective?
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Both but to a lesser extent as character's although HA does a lot to fix that. But c'mon man, Medusa and Hercules are both bullshit, and Gil barely gets a pass.
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Clarste posted:Honestly the weirdest part to me is that her EYES aren't her big NP, since that the main thing she's remembered for. Other than the snake hair, of course, but it seems that part was metaphorical or something. This is honestly probably due to the idea of Mystic Eyes already being in Kara no Kyoukai and Nasu not wanting to look like he was just rehashing another character with special eyes being their big thing. Having them be Mystic Eyes of Petrification and just something people had in the Age of Gods works well enough for me, at least.
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Apr 14, 2021 00:49
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But as we've seen, like, a lot, a Noble Phantasm doesn't have to be an item or anything. It could be a spell or a trait they have or whatever.
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Apr 14, 2021 00:54
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The FSN servants are cool and I like how their stories link to their masters.
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In fairness, it's a tall order to make eyes dramatic enough to support her scenes. It wouldn't be enough on its own to let Rider look down on the other Servants. A Noble Phantasm has to be something that lets the one who has it tower over others, at least when it's at its peak. It's a high bar.
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nrook posted:In fairness, it's a tall order to make eyes dramatic enough to support her scenes. It wouldn't be enough on its own to let Rider look down on the other Servants. A Noble Phantasm has to be something that lets the one who has it tower over others, at least when it's at its peak. It's a high bar. Isn't that basically what Blood Fort is? It's just her mystic eyes in the form of a bounded field. It's just she's usually nerf'd by having Shinji as a proxy master, so it's basically never seen at full power.
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