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a kitten
Aug 5, 2006



So what's all this then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCjMABqWdEM

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Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011



Something I will learn to play if possible

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012


One thing I haven't seen anyone mention about the most recent episode: The scene with Angra Mainyu taking the form of Irisviel strikes me as an attempt to reconcile the line in the VN about Kiritsugu leaving his daughter and wife behind in the castle with Zero. It also helps explain why Ilya is so angry at Kiritsugu, instead of blaming Acht for everything.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010



College Slice

It is a nice aspect of the adaption, especially now, that they can fix somethings for consistency.

Just me, or would cellphones ruin the plot at some points?

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...



I can't really think of any plot point that would be ruined by cell phones.

Plus, them having cell phones would mean that Rin would have to use technology, which we know is impossible.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010



College Slice

Dr Pepper posted:

I can't really think of any plot point that would be ruined by cell phones.

Plus, them having cell phones would mean that Rin would have to use technology, which we know is impossible.

Hrrm, it seems to me that there are times that having a cellphone would conceivably allow Shirou to be informed someone was kidnapped or attacked waaaay sooner.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

You know, Aiko...
I really wanted to be killed by you.


Dr Pepper posted:

I can't really think of any plot point that would be ruined by cell phones.

Conversly, the best plot point used a cell phone. :getin:

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Even though I have nothing, I yearn for something
Trapped with nothing, I closed off tomorrow
Though I have nothing, because I have nothing
I found it here: This melody


Raenir Salazar posted:

Hrrm, it seems to me that there are times that having a cellphone would conceivably allow Shirou to be informed someone was kidnapped or attacked waaaay sooner.
nasu can just take writing tips from his buddy urobuchi

"Oh no, I don't have Tohsaka's number."
"Out of batteries!"
"The magic is interfering with the service."

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

lol

What are the new servants on the trailer? Can't see it here.

Twiddy
May 17, 2008

To the man who loves art for its own sake, it is frequently in its least important and lowliest manifestations that the keenest pleasure is to be derived.

Silver2195 posted:

One thing I haven't seen anyone mention about the most recent episode: The scene with Angra Mainyu taking the form of Irisviel strikes me as an attempt to reconcile the line in the VN about Kiritsugu leaving his daughter and wife behind in the castle with Zero. It also helps explain why Ilya is so angry at Kiritsugu, instead of blaming Acht for everything.
I mean, from my memory about that wasn't it known that Acht just straight up lied to Ilya about why her father didn't come back and that bred the resentment? And then after all that finding out he just had a new family probably didn't help. Don't remember where I got that from though.

Mind, this works a bit better and makes it more clear, but I don't remember it feeling like a plot hole at all (at least, not the "why is Ilya pissed" part. Obviously the whole leaving wife thing was a plot hole).

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010



College Slice

Oh my god, finally finished Seorin's LP. I'm ready for the movie now.

Saber and Shirou/Archer meeting in Avalon was nice. :unsmith:

e: I did a cursory google search, is there not yet a LP somewhere by someone for Hollow Ataraxia? I don't really have the time to play the game when not at work. :ohdear:

Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Apr 21, 2015

HellCopter
Feb 9, 2012


College Slice

The game was translated pretty recently, so not yet. To be honest, I don't see it happening.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.


Rodyle posted:

The pole jump is just the dumbest thing

It just got funnier in Prisma Illya when they add a third-girl surreptitiously getting thirsty watching that pole jump.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

lol

I'm still playing Hollow/Ataraxia, the Caster sequences are the best.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Would Hollow Ataraxia be grandfathered in on the LP subforum since F/sn got a LP? I know there's a no-porn-game rule but Type Moon stuff seems to have never been an issue for that.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010



College Slice

Is the Heaven's Feel reference in the Fate anime Archer vs. Berserker fight when Archer throws his swords like a boomerang, him losing feeling in his left arm or both?

Sylphid
Aug 3, 2012


Raenir Salazar posted:

Is the Heaven's Feel reference in the Fate anime Archer vs. Berserker fight when Archer throws his swords like a boomerang, him losing feeling in his left arm or both?

I think the Heaven's Feel reference was more the confirmation that Sakura and Rin are sisters, and Zouken's very brief cameo.

taser rates
Mar 30, 2010


The throwing the swords like a boomerang was a HF reference yea, it was taken from the one dead end where Shirou fights Dark Saber without Rider. Basically that whole invented subplot with Sakura near the end was as well.

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D


TheLovablePlutonis posted:

I'm still playing Hollow/Ataraxia, the Caster sequences are the best.

I love them all, but I gotta say, I completely lost it when she made Shirou stalk Taiga and Kuzuki with her and Lancer also got pulled in.

Twiddy
May 17, 2008

To the man who loves art for its own sake, it is frequently in its least important and lowliest manifestations that the keenest pleasure is to be derived.

Raenir Salazar posted:

e: I did a cursory google search, is there not yet a LP somewhere by someone for Hollow Ataraxia? I don't really have the time to play the game when not at work. :ohdear:
The F/SN LP took a long time, was in a slightly different LP community, and took forever to even get accepted into the LP Archives. Unfortunately, don't hold your breath.

That said, nothing stopping you from playing the game yourself. Hell, the game's even nice enough to sequester off the sex scenes. Well, except what I presume has to be the worst one. Why.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Even though I have nothing, I yearn for something
Trapped with nothing, I closed off tomorrow
Though I have nothing, because I have nothing
I found it here: This melody


WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747



Ahaha this owns

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010



College Slice

That is indeed funny, but I'm so confused at the rather inconsistent art quality. Ilya and Goku are drawn okay, the rest are weird. Tracing?

e: Reading the wiki, anyone know an instance of where Shirou would stand aside and watch you destroy yourself if he felt you brought it upon yourself? I can't really think of one other than not showing any concern to save any of the other Servants or Masters; and why he wouldn't get along with Shiki?

Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Apr 21, 2015

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

"Who would win in a fight" battles exist in a magical land where things like personalities, motivations, or common sense don't matter.

AKA fighting games.

BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Apr 21, 2015

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010



College Slice

BlitzBlast posted:

"Who would win in a fight" battles exist in a magical land where things like personalities, motivations, or common sense don't matter.

AKA fighting games.

That wasn't my question.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012


Raenir Salazar posted:

That is indeed funny, but I'm so confused at the rather inconsistent art quality. Ilya and Goku are drawn okay, the rest are weird. Tracing?

e: Reading the wiki, anyone know an instance of where Shirou would stand aside and watch you destroy yourself if he felt you brought it upon yourself? I can't really think of one other than not showing any concern to save any of the other Servants or Masters; and why he wouldn't get along with Shiki?

He wouldn't get along with Shiki because Shiki is an rear end in a top hat.

I imagine Shirou would stand aside and let someone die if it was a situation where he was willing to kill them (like with Kirei in Fate), but only then. He even tried to stop Kuzuki from getting himself killed by Archer.

Edit: He did stand by and let Rin kill Sakura in Mind of Steel, of course.

Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Apr 21, 2015

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Raenir Salazar posted:

That wasn't my question.

You were asking about the accepted conclusion of Shirou vs Shiki and wondering whether Shirou would actually just let a guy suicide.

The answer is that it's a "who would win in a fight" battle, so it doesn't matter.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010



College Slice

Silver2195 posted:

He wouldn't get along with Shiki because Shiki is an rear end in a top hat.

I imagine Shirou would stand aside and let someone die if it was a situation where he was willing to kill them (like with Kirei in Fate), but only then. He even tried to stop Kuzuki from getting himself killed by Archer.

Edit: He did stand by and let Rin kill Sakura in Mind of Steel, of course.

I think I need to finish Tsukihime. :)

quote:

You were asking about the accepted conclusion of Shirou vs Shiki and wondering whether Shirou would actually just let a guy suicide.

The answer is that it's a "who would win in a fight" battle, so it doesn't matter.

You misread; those were two separate questions. See Silver's response.

Bakanogami
Dec 31, 2004




Grimey Drawer

Twiddy posted:

Her magic is literally entirely based on precious gems, hell yeah she cares about money.

I can't remember where I read it, but I remember hearing somewhere that in between Zero and Stay Night, Kotomine embezzled most of the Tohsaka inheritance (since he was guardian of Rin at the time), resulting in Rin's being even more exceptionally sensitive to the financial side of her magic.

MonsieurChoc posted:

I don't know why, but I was under the impression Illya was the one who created Seylla and Leysritt.

I don't remember the details of their creation, but I remember from HA that Liz is linked to some extent with Ilya, and transforms into the "Dress from Heaven" that Ilya wears to use the third magic at the end of HF. I don't recall if there's anything similarly special about Sella, though. Aside from her dislike of Shirou.

EDIT: oops there was another page to this thread

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011



Bakanogami posted:

I can't remember where I read it, but I remember hearing somewhere that in between Zero and Stay Night, Kotomine embezzled most of the Tohsaka inheritance (since he was guardian of Rin at the time), resulting in Rin's being even more exceptionally sensitive to the financial side of her magic.

It's actually even better than that: he lost it through 100% honest mismanagement, and upon realizing this just shrugged and figured austerity would be good for her anyway because priest (also it'd be funny) .

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012


Bakanogami posted:

I can't remember where I read it, but I remember hearing somewhere that in between Zero and Stay Night, Kotomine embezzled most of the Tohsaka inheritance (since he was guardian of Rin at the time), resulting in Rin's being even more exceptionally sensitive to the financial side of her magic.

While that probably made it worse, Hollow Ataraxia reveals that she was obsessed with money from childhood.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!


Rodyle posted:

It's actually even better than that: he lost it through 100% honest mismanagement, and upon realizing this just shrugged and figured austerity would be good for her anyway because priest (also it'd be funny) .

Kotomine as a bitcoiner makes a ton of sense.

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless


LORD OF BUTT posted:

Would Hollow Ataraxia be grandfathered in on the LP subforum since F/sn got a LP? I know there's a no-porn-game rule but Type Moon stuff seems to have never been an issue for that.

You might be able to get a pass since all the actual porn scenes are optional. I'd still ask though.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

PRETTY SURE THAT ONE'S SARCASM, BOSS



Seems like a bad idea to me, I mean there were meltdowns every time a character made an off-colour joke in Dangan Ronpa. Also it's in English so you can just get the game if you want to read it.

Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 12:43 on Apr 22, 2015

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005



Clapping Larry

It's not worth the effort. Well IMO no LP is but that's just me.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

lol

Irony Be My Shield posted:

Seems like a bad idea to me, I mean there were meltdowns every time a character made an off-colour joke in Dangan Ronpa.

I'm convinced. I am going to make the H/A LP and make the LP posters gnash their teeth at that wascawwy wapist, Avenger.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

lol

Well he's technically not a rapist because he didn't do that but it sounds better than muwdewew.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


I was just curious, I have less than no desire to LP it.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009



It'd be worth it to see all the insanely funny burns the Let's Play Userbase would make on the first couple pages.

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Twiddy
May 17, 2008

To the man who loves art for its own sake, it is frequently in its least important and lowliest manifestations that the keenest pleasure is to be derived.

TheLovablePlutonis posted:

Well he's technically not a rapist because he didn't do that but it sounds better than muwdewew.
He makes more than enough off-color jokes that I think wascally wapist is appropriate.

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