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Last Episode is where it needed to close.
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May 6, 2015 16:55
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The true mascot is Lion Saber the other ones are just variations of her
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May 6, 2015 17:11
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So, UBW good, I was always under the impression that the reason Rin could keep Saber around was because Shirou was providing her with a boost in mana through the mana-link-thing? Like, she probably would struggle on her own, but the not-quite-as-tiny-as-usual top up that post-UBW Shirou can provide allows her to do that plus have a bit of mana spare in case of actually wanting to do magic. Of course, I haven't played the game in years, so I could be super wrong.
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May 6, 2015 22:32
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That's one reason, yes.
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May 6, 2015 22:33
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Rin can support a Servant without the grail with just her magic circuits but it takes like 80% of her prana.
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May 6, 2015 23:12
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-Troika- posted:Rin can support a Servant without the grail with just her magic circuits but it takes like 80% of her prana. I've been meaning to ask, where did the term "prana" come from vice the more oft used "mana"? Was it some weird Nasu-ism in one of the earlier releases?
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May 7, 2015 03:24
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AlternateNu posted:I've been meaning to ask, where did the term "prana" come from vice the more oft used "mana"? Was it some weird Nasu-ism in one of the earlier releases? I think the distinction is that prana is the magic that comes from a person (or living thing, w/e) specifically and mana is just the ambient magic energy in the air.
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May 7, 2015 03:28
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AlternateNu posted:I've been meaning to ask, where did the term "prana" come from vice the more oft used "mana"? Was it some weird Nasu-ism in one of the earlier releases? They're both different words, with different origins. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prana http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mana
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May 7, 2015 03:29
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AlternateNu posted:I've been meaning to ask, where did the term "prana" come from vice the more oft used "mana"? Was it some weird Nasu-ism in one of the earlier releases? Mana is a Polynesian term for supernatural power. Prana is an Indian equivalent concept to qi/chi, a supernatural life force related to breathing and bloodflow.
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May 7, 2015 03:30
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I think the important thing to note here is that neither are actually used in the Japanese, as far as I know. I'm betting some translator just thought they were appropriate, and probably wrote an essay somewhere justifying their choice.
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May 7, 2015 04:27
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The three terms used in the English fandom are Prana for magical energy in general, od for magic from within the body, and mana for atmospheric energy. In Japanese they just say magical energy in all cases. As for why the distinction arose, beats the gently caress out of me.
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May 7, 2015 04:33
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Until proven otherwise, we have to assume that they made a bet that they could get everyone to say Prana on message boards.
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May 7, 2015 04:39
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AlternateNu posted:I've been meaning to ask, where did the term "prana" come from vice the more oft used "mana"? Was it some weird Nasu-ism in one of the earlier releases? In jp it's all magical energy but Mirror moon decided to be fancy and designated od as magical energy from the body, mana as magical energy from the world and prana as magical energy after being processed through circuits.
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May 7, 2015 05:38
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Twiddy posted:Kirie fight quote:Kirie fight 
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May 7, 2015 08:43
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Clarste posted:I think the important thing to note here is that neither are actually used in the Japanese, as far as I know. I'm betting some translator just thought they were appropriate, and probably wrote an essay somewhere justifying their choice. This is what I was really asking, actually.  Though, to be perfectly honest, I've heard the term "maya" more often in the Indian/Hindu context. Though, that is less generic magical energy, I guess. And more related to the mystical aspects of the Brahman.
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May 7, 2015 12:32
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Gonna attempt to play through Fate with the new patch for like the third time. The beginning was painful but the first Rin/Sakura/Taiga breakfast scene is keeping me going for now. Probably because it didn't actually involve Saber so when she enters the picture again I'll lose the will to live and give up again.
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May 7, 2015 13:01
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Which character is that one? Looks like the proto-Sakura from Kara no Kyokai.
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May 7, 2015 14:10
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Fujou Kirie from the first Kara no Kyoukai movie.
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May 7, 2015 16:53
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Nate RFB posted:Gonna attempt to play through Fate with the new patch for like the third time. The beginning was painful but the first Rin/Sakura/Taiga breakfast scene is keeping me going for now. Probably because it didn't actually involve Saber so when she enters the picture again I'll lose the will to live and give up again. 
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May 7, 2015 18:23
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The beginning of Fate is a lot worse than I remember it, largely because every scene with Saber/Shirou is either really boring or awkward without actually being funny and it saps whatever energy I have to read them.
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May 7, 2015 18:39
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Kyte posted:In jp it's all magical energy but Mirror moon decided to be fancy and designated od as magical energy from the body, mana as magical energy from the world and prana as magical energy after being processed through circuits. "mana" and "od" are actually canon names, and are sometimes used as furigana over the usual "magical energy". The "prana" name is only fanon terminology. Magical energy processed by circuits has no special name.
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May 7, 2015 22:13
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Endorph posted:is saber even interested in shirou in UBW Saber is hot for his justice in every route Clarste posted:Rin doesn't have an exceptionally huge amount of mana (good for a mage, but not super-awesome), so that just begs the question of why no one else did it earlier, or why Gil needed a special circumstance to explain his existence. Also, I don't think it makes any sense from Saber's perspective to want to stick around. She hasn't gone through her character development in Fate, so she should still be seeking the Grail, which no longer exists in Rin's world. And it's not like she was ever super-best friends with them in UBW: she respects them, but certainly not enough to give up her life's dream for them. The Good Ending of UBW just makes no sense at all. Again, UBW Good is a fanservice ending. It was very clearly implied that Rin doesn't have enough mana to keep Saber around, she expects Shirou to repeatedly Mana Transfer Dragon both of them until everyone dies of old age or whatever. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 22:29 on May 7, 2015 |
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May 7, 2015 22:26
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Angry Grimace posted:Saber is hot for his justice in every route Ugh, this isn't true: quote:"First of all, I'm giving Saber most of my magical energy, so she should work to compensate for that. The fundamental rule of magic is equivalent exchange. Shirou providing his dragon mana is just to help out.
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May 7, 2015 23:14
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Raenir Salazar posted:Ugh, this isn't true: Continue on: quote:Look, it certainly is hard for me to maintain Saber by myself. But we have one more magus here. We should be able to maintain Saber with the two of us . . ." Even if you assume Rin has all the magic, it doesn't even matter. The point is that UBW Good is a dumb fanservice harem ending where Shirou has to repeatedly pork one or both of them to assist in sustaining Saber's existence.
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May 7, 2015 23:29
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clearly shirou getting laid is a bad thing and goes against the laws of the universe
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May 7, 2015 23:32
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Pretty sure large amounts of sex was part of the plan Saber or not unless teenagers in Nasuland are quite different.
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May 7, 2015 23:35
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i'm glad shirou is getting laid, he's a good guy
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May 7, 2015 23:37
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Every Rin deserves a butler and a trophy wife.
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May 7, 2015 23:39
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Cake Attack posted:i'm glad shirou is getting laid, he's a good guy This is why UBW is clearly the best route. Even the awful Nasu sex-scene in that route manages to end up just being funny.
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May 8, 2015 01:03
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Rodyle posted:Every Rin deserves a butler and a trophy wife.
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May 8, 2015 01:33
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LORD OF BUTT posted:clearly shirou getting laid is a bad thing and goes against the laws of the universe it does because obv the original timeline where Shirou became Archer he was forever alone If Archer really wanted to un-exist, he just needed to seduce Shirou, not kill him.
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May 8, 2015 02:19
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AfroSquirrel posted:it does because obv the original timeline where Shirou became Archer he was forever alone I thought there was a line about Archer having a lover somewhere. Many people seem to assume it was Ilya (ick!), but my pet theory is that Archer hooked up with Ciel, since she's the one who gave him his shroud.
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Silver2195 posted:I thought there was a line about Archer having a lover somewhere. Many people seem to assume it was Ilya (ick!), but my pet theory is that Archer hooked up with Ciel, since she's the one who gave him his shroud. Actually there was originally suppose to be an Ilya route as well but it was eventually scrapped. Perhaps that route led to Shirou becoming Archer, though we will probably never know.
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May 8, 2015 03:00
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Myurton posted:Actually there was originally suppose to be an Ilya route as well but it was eventually scrapped. Perhaps that route led to Shirou becoming Archer, though we will probably never know. That was the fan theory I've heard. Fun enough, the OVA for Carnival Phantasm has a skit with a giant Grail-possessed Illya bemoaning her lost route. 
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Silver2195 posted:my pet theory is that Archer hooked up with Ciel, since she's the one who gave him his shroud.
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Paracelsus posted:For some reason I thought that was Rin. Or was it just that she turned it into Archer's clothes? I think the story went like Ciel provided the cloth > Rin ruins it trying to make a cape > Shirou fixes it up.
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May 8, 2015 04:55
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Nasu mentioned somewhere that Archer got his shroud from, iirc, a member of the Church with a penchant for curry. Clearly it means Curry DeMarche.
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May 8, 2015 22:44
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Ciel likes Pasta actually
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lol Strange/Fake Saber is actually Richard Lionheart instead of Proto-Arthur
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