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May 18, 2015 02:16
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GhostStalker posted:
This sounds like a waste of two and a half hours for everyone involved, and a good example of why anime news network is bad
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May 18, 2015 02:19
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I believe you'll find that they're actually waging a lonely and misunderstood war and that they will never be rewarded for it.
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May 18, 2015 02:21
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Namtab posted:Anime news network is bad Sometimes they're ok, but then they overrated Tokyo Ghoul so what you say is true.
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May 18, 2015 02:22
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To be honest, most of my like of F/SN comes from the presentation, particularly the whole "story told over three separate arcs" thing. The story itself is kind of eh (especially when you look at each route individually), the setting seems to be the perfect breeding ground for  , and if I had a nickel for every time I've read "this character may seem overpowered, but he's not actually because of this list of weaknesses that will never be relevant and are only around so the character doesn't look OP" in a fanwork then I'd be a millionaire.
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May 18, 2015 02:23
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I think the music makes it good. Good music makes a lot of stories good.
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May 18, 2015 02:25
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Thanks for update on the going ons of ANN
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May 18, 2015 02:27
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Clarste posted:I believe you'll find that they're actually waging a lonely and misunderstood war and that they will never be rewarded for. I probably won't, tho
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May 18, 2015 02:32
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Cake Attack posted:Thanks for update on the going ons of ANN 
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May 18, 2015 02:35
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GhostStalker posted:Apparently, that was after 20 pages of comments (at like 15 comments a page) of people arguing back and forth about whether the anime was sexist over one weekend after the review was posted, which is kinda insane... The reviewer for ANN is a film studies major, so she approaches it in a way that pisses off many Fate fans who have their already clearly formed opinions. It's bad
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May 18, 2015 02:37
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Just read it actually. Either way at least she sticks to her guns regardless of what the rabid fanbase says. I do agree Rin could have done a bit more (it'd be funny if she pulled a Black Widow and back flipped in a chair, but she's not her so whatever). Man, if she thought Shinji is awful during that scene.... ahahaha Heaven's Feel....
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May 18, 2015 02:58
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What? Is part of their reasoning seriously, "she didn't react the way I wanted her to"? Also, Shinji was portrayed as rapey/really drat creepy in the previous season. His connection to the girl who went missing, then showed up with no memory of that time, and his interactions with Sakura and Rin. The only comedic part of Shinji's character is watching get his face beaten in because he's so scummy. Schubalts fucked around with this message at 03:02 on May 18, 2015 |
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May 18, 2015 02:59
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Hmm I see, very interesting
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May 18, 2015 02:59
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Cake Attack posted:Hmm I see, very interesting I love ANN
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May 18, 2015 03:00
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Poking around her later reviews, there's the confusing statement "I really liked Caster in the game but hope they don't keep the" scorned woman" part of her in the show." Which... makes me feel like she doesn't know who Medea is?
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May 18, 2015 03:08
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GhostStalker posted:Also, the assistant editor of ANN, JesuOtaku, is RGD Internet Critic Discussion thread regular Jay O, and she pretty much hates this show. She and the ANN Executive Editor just put out a 2 and a half hour podcast with a guest Fate fan earlier this week that is pretty negative about Fate/Zero, as well as the fanbase of the show as well. It explains why she never comes by ADTRW though, I guess... Hmmm? They were extremely positive about Fate/Zero. It's the rest of the franchise that they don't like.
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May 18, 2015 03:08
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Schubalts posted:What? Is part of their reasoning seriously, "she didn't react the way I wanted her to"? I think she feels it was out of character for Rin not to be more defiant there. I get the impression that it's because Rin doesn't even respect/fear Shinji enough to defy him properly; contrast with the way she lets her sharp tongue loose when Kirei shows up.
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May 18, 2015 03:10
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Rodyle posted:Poking around her later reviews, there's the confusing statement "I really liked Caster in the game but hope they don't keep the" scorned woman" part of her in the show." Which... makes me feel like she doesn't know who Medea is? lol
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May 18, 2015 03:10
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Silver2195 posted:I think she feels it was out of character for Rin not to be more defiant there. I get the impression that it's because Rin doesn't even respect/fear Shinji enough to defy him properly; contrast with the way she lets her sharp tongue loose when Kirei shows up. Personally I spent the entire scene wondering why she didn't just kick him in the balls. I blame the animators for not tying her up more effectively.
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May 18, 2015 03:12
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Stall_19 posted:Hmmm? They were extremely positive about Fate/Zero. It's the rest of the franchise that they don't like. The Fate fanbase that it brought along then. I also feel that Hope and Zac had extremely negative readings of some of the characters in Zero in that podcast though. Silver2195 posted:I think she feels it was out of character for Rin not to be more defiant there. I get the impression that it's because Rin doesn't even respect/fear Shinji enough to defy him properly; contrast with the way she lets her sharp tongue loose when Kirei shows up. Yeah, that's my take on it too. Rin doesn't even let her "perfect honor student" facade slip even when Shinji assaulting her because that would mean acknowledging Shinji. But when Kirei reveals himself, she lets loose, and Shinji is shocked. GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 03:16 on May 18, 2015 |
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May 18, 2015 03:12
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Rin's a terrible mage if she can't use magic to escape from simply being tied up.
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May 18, 2015 03:13
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The film studies major part makes me interested, but everything else I'm hearing makes this person seem like a dumbass. Doesn't matter what education you got if you're dumb, unfortunately. EDIT: Was ANN that one forum I visited for a day that hated UBW for not having enough monologues? That would certainly explain a lot.
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May 18, 2015 03:36
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Twiddy posted:The film studies major part makes me interested, but everything else I'm hearing makes this person seem like a dumbass. Doesn't matter what education you got if you're dumb, unfortunately. Said person actually posts on SA, and has a major cult of personality going in the Critic thread. Because of course.
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May 18, 2015 03:42
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Said person actually posts on SA, and has a major cult of personality going in the Critic thread. Because of course. They're not the same reviewer, actually. Jay O, aka Hope Chapman, aka JesuOtaku, is the Assistant Editor of ANN; Gabriella Ekens, aka Gabbomatic, is the one doing the actual UBW reviews. They have similar opinions though. I invited Jay O over here to talk about them, but I dunno if she'll take me up on that offer.
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May 18, 2015 03:45
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You're just jealous that they get paid to hate anime while you have to do it for free.
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May 18, 2015 03:45
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E: well that answers that, finally, the cross site drama made real, thanks a heap Ghost
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May 18, 2015 03:46
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Clarste posted:You're just jealous that they get paid to hate anime while you have to do it for free. EDIT: Oh boy visitors, I love visitors!
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May 18, 2015 03:48
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Well, maybe you could get paid if you hated it.
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May 18, 2015 03:49
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GhostStalker posted:They're not the same reviewer, actually. Jay O, aka Hope Chapman, aka JesuOtaku, is the Assistant Editor of ANN; Gabriella Ekens, aka Gabbomatic, is the one doing the actual UBW reviews. They have similar opinions though. Oh, I thought the conversation was still about Jay. I've just seen the posts about the show in the critic thread, I don't know anything about ANN's structure or whatnot.
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May 18, 2015 03:50
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Pretend Shinji is the ANN forums, because like Shinji it needs a punch in the mug 
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May 18, 2015 03:53
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Wait, I'm confused, is the problem with ANN the reviewers, or the forums? Because the ANN forums hate the reviewers too. Well, guess it could also be both.
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May 18, 2015 03:55
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I don't care
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May 18, 2015 03:57
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I mean the reviews seem bad, but looking at the comments it's a mix of lore sperging, gaters, and genuine criticism. So it's a comment section on the internet. E: as far as the Shinji scene goes, having Rin do nothing seems overly restrained on her part (I think she kicked him in the game?), but I will accept it in exchange for that sick gif.
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May 18, 2015 03:58
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Cake Attack posted:I don't care But yes, the gif is great and Lancer is the best Servant.
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May 18, 2015 04:01
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I'm generally didainful of both the type of person who will record a two and a half hour podcast just to force their point and the type of person who's will listen to it. Also most reviewers, internet or otherwise mostly run on forcing their own prejudices and are supported by aforesaid cult of personality. I watched some jesseotaku vids and they were shallow critique, weeb subtitle jokes and cosplay, somehow more obnoxious than the longest madoka posts
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May 18, 2015 04:02
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Clarste posted:Wait, I'm confused, is the problem with ANN the reviewers, or the forums? Because the ANN forums hate the reviewers too. The forums are the really bad ones. The reviewers are a bit of a mixed bag, but I think they're OK on the whole. The only really bad reviewer is Theron.
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May 18, 2015 04:04
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The only JO video I remember much is when she said she refused to read Berserk even though she loved the show because she resented cliffhanger "read the original" endings.
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May 18, 2015 04:04
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Clarste posted:Wait, I'm confused, is the problem with ANN the reviewers, or the forums? Because the ANN forums hate the reviewers too. It's pretty much both. Like Rodyle said, the forum response thread seem split between those who like the reviews (sizable minority), those who blame the reviewers for being SJWs, those who have general criticism, and those Fate fans who enjoy about it.Rodyle posted:E: well that answers that, finally, the cross site drama made real, thanks a heap Ghost Meh, she's got an account here already, might as well make use of it.
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May 18, 2015 04:07
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Cake Attack posted:I don't care I care, deeply.
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May 18, 2015 04:18
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