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Lady Naga posted:"I have no strong investment in these characters" I am not a particularly strong Catholic, but if someone made a straight-faced movie about Jesus going Charles Bronson on drug dealers, I'd probably take some umbrage with its concept on the grounds that they kinda don't get the whole "Jesus" thing. I get the impression Evil Mastermind was trying to say something similar: he doesn't particularly care that much about Batman or Superman, but BvS is still so utterly different from his understanding of those characters that it doesn't interest him.
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LORD OF BUTT posted:I am not a particularly strong Catholic, but if someone made a straight-faced movie about Jesus going Charles Bronson on drug dealers, I'd probably take some umbrage with its concept on the grounds that they kinda don't get the whole "Jesus" thing. I get the impression Evil Mastermind was trying to say something similar: he doesn't particularly care that much about Batman or Superman, but BvS is still so utterly different from his understanding of those characters that it doesn't interest him.
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Mar 28, 2016 21:38
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LORD OF BUTT posted:I am not a particularly strong Catholic, but if someone made a straight-faced movie about Jesus going Charles Bronson on drug dealers, I'd probably take some umbrage with its concept on the grounds that they kinda don't get the whole "Jesus" thing. I get the impression Evil Mastermind was trying to say something similar: he doesn't particularly care that much about Batman or Superman, but BvS is still so utterly different from his understanding of those characters that it doesn't interest him.    (I get what you mean, though)
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LORD OF BUTT posted:I am not a particularly strong Catholic, but if someone made a straight-faced movie about Jesus going Charles Bronson on drug dealers, I'd probably take some umbrage with its concept on the grounds that they kinda don't get the whole "Jesus" thing. I get the impression Evil Mastermind was trying to say something similar: he doesn't particularly care that much about Batman or Superman, but BvS is still so utterly different from his understanding of those characters that it doesn't interest him. No lie, I'd watch the poo poo out of that movie.
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Mar 28, 2016 21:40
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Empress Theonora posted:I'm looking forward to this episode because it might be cathartic given the knowledge that since BvS is making tons of money they'll probably just keep moving movies like that forever. I'm glad they'll keep making them like this because I really liked Man of Steel and while Batman v Superman has some issues like it too. I just want an internet nerdy show I pay attention to to agree with me on these two movies at least once. Hope we get some good Eisenberg Luthor impressions.
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Mar 28, 2016 21:47
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:No lie, I'd watch the poo poo out of that movie. I probably would too, simply for the sheer insanity of the concept, but my first-glance reaction would be more like  .
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Mar 28, 2016 21:58
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LORD OF BUTT posted:I am not a particularly strong Catholic, but if someone made a straight-faced movie about Jesus going Charles Bronson on drug dealers, I'd probably take some umbrage with its concept on the grounds that they kinda don't get the whole "Jesus" thing. I get the impression Evil Mastermind was trying to say something similar: he doesn't particularly care that much about Batman or Superman, but BvS is still so utterly different from his understanding of those characters that it doesn't interest him. This comparison makes no sense considering there aren't decades of media presenting alternate takes on Jesus.
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Mar 28, 2016 21:59
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Lady Naga posted:This comparison makes no sense considering there aren't decades of media presenting alternate takes on Jesus. Er... in the sense that it's more like centuries of media, you're right, but otherwise, huh? WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Mar 28, 2016 |
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Mar 28, 2016 22:03
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Given how so much of the rest of genre movies are dominated by explosions and cynicism and killing everybody, I feel like the more traditional idealistic take on Superman is something that's inherently valuable and worth trying to preserve, even if a particular characterization of a decades-old superhero isn't necessarily sacrosanct or whatever.
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Mar 28, 2016 22:06
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Remember that this is the forum which made a 300 page dossier about how TVTropes is not to be trusted
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Mar 28, 2016 22:16
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The movie was boring It wasn't even bad in a fun, what-the-Christ way, it was just badly paced and impossible to care about. I'd rather rewatch Batman and Robin or Daredevil than sit through BvS again.
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Mar 28, 2016 22:24
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:No lie, I'd watch the poo poo out of that movie. I always enjoyed this version.
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Mar 28, 2016 22:41
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I'm sure this has been covered, but both versions of the Keanu Reeve's involvement in THE WATCHER are actually true. He himself says that his name was falsified and as he couldn't conclusively prove it he did it because it was a tiny role instead of going through a legal battle. Then his role got beefed up on top of that. Clearly something was up because he refused to promote the movie when it came out.
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Mar 28, 2016 23:10
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Empress Theonora posted:Given how so much of the rest of genre movies are dominated by explosions and cynicism and killing everybody, I feel like the more traditional idealistic take on Superman is something that's inherently valuable and worth trying to preserve, even if a particular characterization of a decades-old superhero isn't necessarily sacrosanct or whatever. I would argue that Snyder Kal-El is every bit as idealistic as Donner Kal-El.
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Mar 28, 2016 23:11
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ghost emoji posted:The movie was boring I kinda love Batman and Robin, honestly. The tedious stuff about Alfred and Alicia Silverstone drags, but I kind like the silver aginess of it all.
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Mar 28, 2016 23:13
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Eric Movie posted:It's OK to like a movie and if it has to be this one, I mean... geez
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LORD OF BUTT posted:Er... in the sense that it's more like centuries of media, you're right, but otherwise, huh? Ah yes all those different takes on Jesus and his origin story like:
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Mar 28, 2016 23:20
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So uh...the episode is already up?
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Mar 28, 2016 23:40
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Holy poo poo, it's 2h 9m long. Longest episode by a pretty big margin if memory serves.
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Mar 28, 2016 23:43
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Lady Naga posted:Ah yes all those different takes on Jesus and his origin story like: There's four in the source itself. Outside of that, just off the top of my head there's Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, The Last Temptation of Christ, The Passion of the Christ, Jesus Christ: Superstar, and Zeffirelli's Jesus of Nazareth- if I dug into it a bit, I'd probably find even more.
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Mar 28, 2016 23:49
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Lady Naga posted:Ah yes all those different takes on Jesus and his origin story like: Picking one element that has remained relatively static and ignoring the rest seems wilfully argumentative. Do you seriously not get the idea that Jesus has been interpreted in different ways over time? Are you actually saying you think that isn't true? And by contrast things have remained static about Batman and Superman over time, whilst other elements of their characters have been changed in different portrayals. The fact that there have been some changes doesn't mean everything has been up for grabs at all times. Some things have remained constant, or at least changed only at a slow pace. I don't like some elements of the "not my Superman" mindset, but the idea that a character seems off isn't complete philistinism. These are shared cultural properties. No one has the ability to completely wrench them out of everyone else's grasp. Much like Jesus I guess.
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Look you can't just compare Superman to some flawless Mary Sue like Jesus. Superman is an important character.
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Tender Bender posted:Look you can't just compare Superman to some flawless Mary Sue like Jesus. Superman is an important character. Well played.
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ravenkult posted:So uh...the episode is already up? Neato, thanks for the heads-up, wouldn't have thought to check the Episodes page!
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Mar 29, 2016 01:40
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:Holy poo poo, it's 2h 9m long. Longest episode by a pretty big margin if memory serves. This episode is longer than Star Wars
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Mar 29, 2016 01:43
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DrVenkman posted:I'm sure this has been covered, but both versions of the Keanu Reeve's involvement in THE WATCHER are actually true. He himself says that his name was falsified and as he couldn't conclusively prove it he did it because it was a tiny role instead of going through a legal battle. Then his role got beefed up on top of that. Clearly something was up because he refused to promote the movie when it came out. This is a more hilarious story than what happens in Bowfinger, why wasn't it made into a movie?
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Marketing New Brain posted:This is a more hilarious story than what happens in Bowfinger, why wasn't it made into a movie? I would imagine Keanu would rather forget that he made The Watcher than commemorate it.
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Mar 29, 2016 01:53
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A good appetizer to this would be their predictions from 2013: http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/7/d/f/7df...ff67619d26eb2d4
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Mar 29, 2016 03:12
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quote:PLUS: Nick Nolte as Grandpa Sajdak in A Steve Sajdak Thanksgiving.
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Mar 29, 2016 05:34
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How bad of an idea is it to listen to this episode while at the gym
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"Looks like Metallo runs Kentucky!"
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I'm actually still interested in seeing Batman v Superman despite the reviews but haven't gotten a chance to go see it yet, so I'm skipping today's episode until then. Instead, I've been listening to some of the older side episodes that I hadn't listened to yet. I started the "Star Trek Into Darkness" On-Screen episode looking forward to them ripping into that piece of garbage movie, but nope. They all loved it, and I think one or two even said it was their favorite movie of that summer.  So yep, it's certainly OK to like a bad movie. edit: On a more positive note, the "Top Five Movie Deaths" episode is great Eh! Frank fucked around with this message at 09:38 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:How bad of an idea is it to listen to this episode while at the gym Do you pee? You will.
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Eh! Frank posted:I'm actually still interested in seeing Batman v Superman despite the reviews but haven't gotten a chance to go see it yet, so I'm skipping today's episode until then. Instead, I've been listening to some of the older side episodes that I hadn't listened to yet. I started the "Star Trek Into Darkness" On-Screen episode looking forward to them ripping into that piece of garbage movie, but nope. They all loved it, and I think one or two even said it was their favorite movie of that summer. I can't fathom of anyone liking INTO DARKNESS. I would actually prefer to watch BvS again than watch that, though it does have an excellent opening.
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Mar 29, 2016 12:49
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The gang's Holly Hunter impersonation is still utterly indistinguishable from their Gary Busey impersonation, I see.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:The gang's Holly Hunter impersonation is still utterly indistinguishable from their Gary Busey impersonation, I see. To be fair they admitted as much in the BvS episode! 
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The Vosgian Beast posted:The gang's Holly Hunter impersonation is still utterly indistinguishable from their Gary Busey impersonation, I see. North of their Louie Anderson but south of their Nolte.
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This has to be the third or fourth time a movie review/comedy group I follow did an ep on BvS and the universal negative reaction to Martha never stops being great.
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Mar 29, 2016 16:34
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Guy Mann posted:This has to be the third or fourth time a movie review/comedy group I follow did an ep on BvS and the universal negative reaction to Martha never stops being great. My personal favorite was Holly Hunter gasping and stammering at the pissjar.
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