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Poque posted:i campaigned against you for a lot of today You barely voted me.
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merk posted:You barely voted me. i forgot that votes count differently depending on when they occur. A lot of my effort today was spent pointing out why the case on PMom was stupid. It was stupid regardless of the flip. Very, very stupid. I can look back on this smugly with the flip for sure, but keep in mind that the reason my effort went to waste had nothing to do with me and everything to do with you.
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Mar 2, 2015 02:14
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merk posted:If I'm not dead after tonight, please shoot me if there is a gun tomorrow. If I'm not killed tonight, I will be lynched in lylo for a town loss. Why not just come out and say "gee whiz, really you guys, I'm town"?
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Mar 2, 2015 02:48
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Excerpt from a Berlin News Broadcast "... police are not commenting on the cause of the crash, but we have confirmation of one fatality. Anonymous sources say the man's name was Geralt Poque, a French citizen traveling in Germany on business. Again, while we have reports that the fiery crash on the A100 was caused when an unmarked van forced the car off of an overpass before speeding away..." ~ "... Poque's dead. And while it's not definitive it was foul play, we've had too many deaths over the past week. We need answers. Ernie, go through Poque's files, see if there's something that could point to his killer. Everyone else, back onto the streets, but we move in pairs from now on. Find me something." The other Operatives filed out, leaving Ernie to sort through Poque's papers. The division chief shook his head. "We're going to be here awhile. I'll grab the coffee and be right back." Ernie nodded, already spreading printouts onto Poque's desk. It was going to be a long night, but he had high hopes they would find something. ~ Berlin Team Internal Communications Intercept ...they came into our loving home! Ernie and the division chief were both gunned down in our own offices. The sites were beyond black, and they're still hitting us at will. This team is so hosed. ~ Poque, NATO Operative and Ernie, NATO Operative/Anti-Russian Specialist have been killed N2. It is now D3. Deadline will be  March 3rd at 10 PM EST.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:52
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Votecount for Day 3 Not Voting (7): AnonymousNarcotics, Grandicap, Hal Incandenza, merk, Murmur Twin, Somberbrero, True and RealWith 7 alive, it's 4 votes to lynch. The current deadline is March 03rd, 2015 at 10 p.m. EST -- that's in about 1 day, 8 hours.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:52
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merk posted:welp, I have no credibility, but ##vote Merk
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Mar 2, 2015 18:54
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##unvote Ahh this might be LYLO so I guess I can wait on this but I feel like my feelings are pretty well known.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:55
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Murmur Twin posted:##vote Merk stop it stop it stop it.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:55
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 quick, what's that skeleton emote that ernie always uses, i want to use it before he does
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Mar 2, 2015 18:55
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Somberbrero posted:stop it stop it stop it. Fair enough.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:57
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 i can't believe i died, i thought i was scummy as hell
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Mar 2, 2015 19:05
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Somberbrero posted:stop it stop it stop it. Let's get this party started, I guess! Who do you feel is a better vote and why?
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Mar 2, 2015 19:05
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Mar 2, 2015 19:07
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Murmur Twin posted:Let's get this party started, I guess! Who do you feel is a better vote and why? I have some information that might help, but before I say anything I want some input. Are we just in a kingmaker situation now? If that's the case then we should no-lunch and try to force the anti-town to target each other.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:14
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It's Hal/somb/?, but I probably lost us the game.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:15
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merk posted:It's Hal/somb/?, but I probably lost us the game. It might be Hal but I have some doubts. Wait do you think we're at 4 town and 3 anti town?
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Mar 2, 2015 19:16
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Somberbrero posted:I have some information that might help, but before I say anything I want some input. Are we just in a kingmaker situation now? If that's the case then we should no-lunch and try to force the anti-town to target each other. If there are 3 non-town players and we no-lynch, they kill 2 town players tonight and we lose. Right?
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Mar 2, 2015 19:19
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Are we sure it's just three scum? I am pretty sure there must be two scum teams and it'd make more sense to have two teams of two players. If we no lunch, the worst case scenario is that we lose two town and then it's two scum A, two scum B, and one town. Best case scenario, each scum kills a scum and then we're at 3/1/1 and this is winnable.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:22
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Somberbrero posted:It might be Hal but I have some doubts. I was thinking two scum and an SK. Could be two scum with two kills. Somberbrero posted:It might be Hal but I have some doubts. That's what I assumed, yeah. Two scum and an SK. What were you thinking?
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Mar 2, 2015 19:29
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Somberbrero posted:Are we sure it's just three scum? I am pretty sure there must be two scum teams and it'd make more sense to have two teams of two players. If we no lunch, the worst case scenario is that we lose two town and then it's two scum A, two scum B, and one town. Best case scenario, each scum kills a scum and then we're at 3/1/1 and this is winnable. This play can lose us the game if you're wrong about 4 scum and I don't like it.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:29
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Dat iPhone. Two scum with two kills sounds unlikely. Too swingy on balance.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:31
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Murmur Twin posted:This play can lose us the game if you're wrong about 4 scum and I don't like it. If it's four scum - two opposing teams, then no lynch is the right play.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:32
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Also, the whole conversation between merk and Somber sounds phony as hell to me. Instead of setup specs why not discuss what went wrong on the PMom lynch?
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Mar 2, 2015 19:33
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merk posted:If it's four scum - two opposing teams, then no lynch is the right play. That's awesome, but if it's three scum, (a) we lose, and (b) it would be scum's best interest to try and trick town into a no-lynch. Who do you guys think is scum and why?
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Mar 2, 2015 19:34
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Well yeah it's not an ideal situation but I think that it's probably the smart play all things considered. Okay, assuming four town, two scum, and one serial killer, then the following options are possible if we no lunch. 1. Scum kill town. SK kills town. Two town, two scum, and one serial killer alive. That seems not actually terrible? We have 40% chance of randomly guessing scum, and if the scum and SK take each other out then that's game. 2. Scum kill SK. SK kills town. Three town, two scum. Lylo. Again, unfortunate but winnable. 3. Scum kill town, SK kills scum. Three town, one scum, one SK. Again, a 40% chance of hitting anti-town by pure chance. 4. Scum kill SK, SK kills scum. Four town, one scum. Two chances here, should be impossible to screw up. Please correct me if I confused something.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:37
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Murmur Twin posted:Also, the whole conversation between merk and Somber sounds phony as hell to me. Instead of setup specs why not discuss what went wrong on the PMom lynch? Uh because that's an inane conversation and not helpful to us winning.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:37
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Murmur Twin posted:That's awesome, but if it's three scum, Why would it be 3 scum? That strikes me as incredibly unlikely.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:38
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Murmur it sounds like you're just trying to railroad the easiest lunch here. Merk was wrong and he was sure he was right. I don't think that says poo poo about alignment with multiple bad dude teams out there.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:40
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Somberbrero posted:Murmur it sounds like you're just trying to railroad the easiest lunch here. Merk was wrong and he was sure he was right. I don't think that says poo poo about alignment with multiple bad dude teams out there. What do you think is my argument against Merk?
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Mar 2, 2015 19:46
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Murmur Twin posted:To me reading this exchange, it looks like PMom had the impression from his role PM that there might be two scum factions (and said as such two hours before the interaction with Merk), and then accused Merk of posturing based on the earlier statement regarding two scum factions. Merk's reaction doesn't feel real at all to me. ##vote Merk This is your case as stated but I think if we're being honest, it's that merk was wrong.
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Mar 2, 2015 19:50
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Somberbrero posted:This is your case as stated but I think if we're being honest, it's that merk was wrong. While I would hate to accuse you trying to protect your scumbro and not making any attempt to read cases, these were more what I was hoping you would address: Murmur Twin posted:
Murmur Twin posted:While I was doing that, I realized that it was inconsistent of Merk to tunnel on PMom and ignore Poque, so my focus admittedly kind of shifted there.
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Mar 2, 2015 20:05
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I'm admittedly less interested in cases right now and I'm sure merk isn't scum. I'm positive that the best course of action is to no-lunch. Do you have any response to the scenarios I mapped out? I feel like I proved my point.
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Mar 2, 2015 20:12
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Somberbrero posted:I'm admittedly less interested in cases right now and I'm sure merk isn't scum. I'm positive that the best course of action is to no-lunch. Do you have any response to the scenarios I mapped out? I feel like I proved my point. Your point has been noted, as has my opinion of it (that it's silly to make a move based on guessing what he setup is, as well as dangerous given that the two shadiest players in my opinion are pitching it). Please answer my last post.
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Mar 2, 2015 20:18
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Somb you said you had info?
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Mar 2, 2015 20:22
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merk posted:Somb you said you had info? I don't think it helps in our current state. Murmur Twin posted:Your point has been noted, as has my opinion of it (that it's silly to make a move based on guessing what he setup is, as well as dangerous given that the two shadiest players in my opinion are pitching it). I feel like you're deliberately trying to ignore the logic behind a no-lynch because you can't argue with it. I'm not going to vote merk today.
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Mar 2, 2015 20:26
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*a helicopter flys in with a platform attached to a chain far below it, guitar starts blaring over the game as I spit the rose out of my mouth* WE NEED A HERO TO SAVE US
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Mar 2, 2015 20:28
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Somberbrero posted:I don't think it helps in our current state. Can you see why it might look like you are merk are scumbros?
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Mar 2, 2015 20:28
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merk, that's 0/2 for you bub. Ernie and Pmom. I think you're scum and that your handwringing while we were dead was not sincere or very merk-like.
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Mar 2, 2015 20:29
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TBH I sorta felt like you were scum yesterday but I voted with you because it would have been a really funny flip to me if Pmom was scum
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I will happily ##vote merk today and use the proceeds to buy you a hamburger tomorrow
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