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Soup du Journey
Mar 20, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
yeah i think one of the game's faults is that successful builds really wind up being pretty samey. Heavy on whatever combats sanity loss, a dump stat that gets compensated for later, and probably psychic because of the way the psychic resource works.

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Bobby Two Hands
May 7, 2008
Don't worry guys. I have completely recreated the game in a month and a half and it's now done and ready to be played. AI? Full general artificial intelligence (for every character). Gameplay? Uncountably infinite strategies. Graphics? Fully immersive for all senses which humans and animals possess.

Realtalk, though, I made a free game based somewhat on That Which Sleeps and put it on the internet. It lacks advanced features such as sound, save/load and a font which isn't "default Arial" but it's playable and you can muck around with politics, plagues and climate change. Theoretically you might win, which would be good, cos I put a bunch of work into the ending screen.

https://bobbytwohands.itch.io/shadows-behind-the-throne

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
Do you want $100,000?

ShootaBoy
Jan 6, 2010

Anime is Bad.
Except for Pokemon, Valkyria Chronicles and 100% OJ.

How about shattering a friendship?

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
hell i'll play it

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
thank you for the gift of game baby two hands, i am downloading it now.

ShootaBoy
Jan 6, 2010

Anime is Bad.
Except for Pokemon, Valkyria Chronicles and 100% OJ.

Game is pretty fun, I like how it will let you go into a power debt instead of just not letting you do a thing. Wish it had saving and loading, but I can see myself playing more of it when I have some time to kill.

Soup du Journey
Mar 20, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Bobby Two Hands posted:

Don't worry guys. I have completely recreated the game in a month and a half and it's now done and ready to be played. AI? Full general artificial intelligence (for every character). Gameplay? Uncountably infinite strategies. Graphics? Fully immersive for all senses which humans and animals possess.

Realtalk, though, I made a free game based somewhat on That Which Sleeps and put it on the internet. It lacks advanced features such as sound, save/load and a font which isn't "default Arial" but it's playable and you can muck around with politics, plagues and climate change. Theoretically you might win, which would be good, cos I put a bunch of work into the ending screen.

https://bobbytwohands.itch.io/shadows-behind-the-throne
:how:

thread...delivers?!

Grinning Goblin
Oct 11, 2004

I was hoping for dumb drama but we got a game

Tehan
Jan 19, 2011
Talk about a plot twist.

Bobby Two Hands
May 7, 2008

Oberleutnant posted:

Do you want $100,000?

My aunt who is in Texas and has absolutely no communication with the outside world is very sick so I'll have to go visit her soon. Please send all the cash in unmarked nonsequential bills and my dear friend from highschool will keep you informed in how the game's progressing.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Bobby Two Hands posted:

Don't worry guys. I have completely recreated the game in a month and a half and it's now done and ready to be played. AI? Full general artificial intelligence (for every character). Gameplay? Uncountably infinite strategies. Graphics? Fully immersive for all senses which humans and animals possess.

Realtalk, though, I made a free game based somewhat on That Which Sleeps and put it on the internet. It lacks advanced features such as sound, save/load and a font which isn't "default Arial" but it's playable and you can muck around with politics, plagues and climate change. Theoretically you might win, which would be good, cos I put a bunch of work into the ending screen.

https://bobbytwohands.itch.io/shadows-behind-the-throne

:psyduck:

Soup du Journey
Mar 20, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
like...this really shouldn't be. i stepped out today and everyone stared, mute and motionless, until i slunk back inside. the sun hasn't moved since noon or so. my cat is talking to me and the sound of his voice is almost worse than the things he's saying. what have you done, bob?

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


The over/under on TWS scam-guy trying to sue or C&D Bobby Two Hands is a week, based entirely on the words "based somewhat on That Which Sleeps" in the post.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

Zaodai posted:

The over/under on TWS scam-guy trying to sue or C&D Bobby Two Hands is a week, based entirely on the words "based somewhat on That Which Sleeps" in the post.

Judge: Well, this seems like an open and shut case. As long as you can produce a working example of your game. You can do that, right, Mr. Josh?

*Josh begins to sweat profusely*

1stGear fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Apr 5, 2017

Bobby Two Hands
May 7, 2008
I have a solid legal defence actually. I read the OP of the making games megathread and it says you can't copyright an idea. I can call expert witness forums user Mug and no jury in the land will convict me.

Obfuscation
Jan 1, 2008
Good luck to you, I know you believe in hell

Bobby Two Hands posted:

Theoretically you might win, which would be good, cos I put a bunch of work into the ending screen.

You can! Nice work man, it's bit clunky and quite impenetrable but I did spend the night figuring your game out. I turned the whole map into ice which wasn't quite as apocalyptic as I hoped, but I like having that as an option.

Bobby Two Hands
May 7, 2008

Obfuscation posted:

You can! Nice work man, it's bit clunky and quite impenetrable but I did spend the night figuring your game out. I turned the whole map into ice which wasn't quite as apocalyptic as I hoped, but I like having that as an option.

Thanks. Appreciate the feedback. I'll add "turn cities to ice cubes" to my giant list of "features I wish I had time to implement".

Honky Dong Country
Feb 11, 2015

Man this thread is one hell of a ride.

deathbagel
Jun 10, 2008

*sits bored at work, decides to look at old dead threads for comedy*

Wait.... what!?

*still perplexed at the fact that this game now somehow sort of lives*

I think I must have drank too much cough syrup, stupid bronchitis, I'm hallucinating now, only explanation.

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer

Bobby Two Hands posted:

Don't worry guys. I have completely recreated the game in a month and a half and it's now done and ready to be played. AI? Full general artificial intelligence (for every character). Gameplay? Uncountably infinite strategies. Graphics? Fully immersive for all senses which humans and animals possess.

Realtalk, though, I made a free game based somewhat on That Which Sleeps and put it on the internet. It lacks advanced features such as sound, save/load and a font which isn't "default Arial" but it's playable and you can muck around with politics, plagues and climate change. Theoretically you might win, which would be good, cos I put a bunch of work into the ending screen.

https://bobbytwohands.itch.io/shadows-behind-the-throne

Share your account's email and I will buy you platinum.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
For real tho guys for only $50,000 we could get some jpgs added to this game

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?
But what about deterministic AI?

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE

Ynglaur posted:

But what about deterministic AI?

its poo poo

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund
So, how do we actually kickstarter this game and make it what TWS should have been.

Grinning Goblin
Oct 11, 2004

Josef bugman posted:

So, how do we actually kickstarter this game and make it what TWS should have been.

I think when you have a semi-finished product, you now start up a patreon and just start adding in furry porn once a month and rake in thousands per month indefinitely.

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me three or more times, shame on you.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
i'm finding the governments of various nations difficult to understand

like, i started out by choosing a city state on the north side of the world and enthralled the captain of the guard, the priest, and the physician. then i killed the countess by having her own shadow eat her. when elections came up, the candidates to replace her did not include my enthralled lords, and i apparently could not influence them to vote in any real way. i later took the place over by just mashing end turn a lot and enthralling the new countess, but the entire situation was very confusing.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Maybe we can ask Josh to design a UI for this game.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Coolguye posted:

i'm finding the governments of various nations difficult to understand

like, i started out by choosing a city state on the north side of the world and enthralled the captain of the guard, the priest, and the physician. then i killed the countess by having her own shadow eat her. when elections came up, the candidates to replace her did not include my enthralled lords, and i apparently could not influence them to vote in any real way. i later took the place over by just mashing end turn a lot and enthralling the new countess, but the entire situation was very confusing.

This is what happens when you don't have a fully deterministic AI.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
It's a pretty cool little game.

Not the one this thread is about, mind you, I mean the one that actually exists.

Soup du Journey
Mar 20, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
you should probably do a kickstarter and make this game for real. its neat

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
This is a good game. Though I can't figure out how to switch between thralls. I had a thrall that was doing nicely but after gobbling up a few smaller settlements the nearest society was a solid "maybe" on whether I could take it. So I enthralled someone there and made them argue for extreme pacifism and to defund their military as much as possible.

Only I then couldn't switch back to my old thrall. So I just made them a dark tower trying to take over the world . . . it didn't work out.

What I would have liked to have done is switch back to my powerful, militarily aggressive thrall and have him invade.

Bobby Two Hands
May 7, 2008

Soup du Journey posted:

you should probably do a kickstarter and make this game for real. its neat

Sod it, I'm going to. Worst that can happen is That Which Sleeps drop between now and then, in which case I can cancel the kickstarter. Best case is I rise to the hallowed ranks of "dude who has a game on steam". My other life plan was to find PhD funding, so in any case I was condemned to begging money from strangers in exchange for promises.

Usability patch is out, now includes map zooming and a worldmap/societyMap switching hotkey.

Full roadmap I'd be going for on the kickstarter is here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TACh6zrRI-LEfkAPGKm8k7wbFfoi6wn6ZBQ3TD0wLZM/edit?usp=sharing
Obviously nowhere near as big as the real That Which Sleeps, but in return it might actually get made.

Now all I need to do is google "how to kickstarter".

Thanks for all the feedback, all y'all which gave it.

Oh, and the problem was that a Physician or Guard Captain isn't a high-born, so can't become a real lord. Only barons/counts/dukes/kings/emperors get to make decisions, everyone else is peasant trash.

Grinning Goblin
Oct 11, 2004

We went from "Guy with kickstarter doesn't know how to make a game" to "Guy with game doesn't know how to make a kickstarter"

2017 is both the best and worst year.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
Goldmine this thread.

wjs5
Aug 22, 2009
I will totally check this out later. (the actual running game thing posted)

Orv
May 4, 2011
That John Travolta gif is my only real response to this. Your game is good, and I will buy it from you when it's finished, Bobby Two Hands.

Also just go to Fenicks and offer him a pittance for the TWS art.


E: All I ask is that you add a few - a bunch more options of bad stuff to do to the world.

Orv fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Apr 5, 2017

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

This thread has delivered hope, dispair, drama, comedy, Battle Brothers and now this!

We could auction off the film rights to this tale.

Bug Squash fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Apr 5, 2017

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Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


Hell, I might throw a few bucks at your kickstarter when it goes up just because of the hilarity of you actually making the game in a month and a half to show up some thieving random internet scammer. In true Goon tradition, that's worth a little support on its own.

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