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Stabbing a pregnant woman repeatedly in the stomach is fine, but the rape of Sansa? Too far. 
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May 18, 2015 17:49
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Whip Slagcheek posted:Stabbing a pregnant woman repeatedly in the stomach is fine, but the rape of Sansa? Too far. But her agency! 
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May 18, 2015 17:51
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she never said no
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May 18, 2015 17:52
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In the books, I'm pretty sure Theon's face throws out the opening pitch of the cosummation. We could've had twice (thrice?) as much rape in that scene.
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May 18, 2015 17:54
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OZYMANDICKASS posted:In the books, I'm pretty sure Theon's face throws out the opening pitch of the cosummation. Yea, Theon serves as a fluffer. GRRM had gone even further than the show. And "agency" is TVIV's favorite buzzword they grabbed off of Jezebel.com.
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May 18, 2015 17:55
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holocaust bloopers posted:And "agency" is TVIV's favorite buzzword they grabbed off of Jezebel.com. wtf does that even mean
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elite_garbage_man posted:wtf does that even mean Agency represents a character's free will or control over their life and decisions.
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May 18, 2015 17:58
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holocaust bloopers posted:Jezebel.com. I'm triggered.
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"Agency" is a common term when talking about characters on any movie/TV show. A character without agency is loving boring and not very believable. Sansa doesn't do poo poo. Things she does or says rarely have any impact on her fate. The show stuck her in a black dress and she got to be complicit in some of Baelish's schemes for a bit, but she's still stupid rear end helpless Sansa. It's a disappointment, sure, but it's not necessarily sloppy storytelling- just slightly tiresome at this point. edit: by comparison, Arya has been all about getting poo poo done. .. until now. Now she just waits for something to happen. This season really sucks for the Stark girls, and not in an entertaining way. edit again: Arya being the Hound's captive is a good example of how a character still has agency when they can't really do anything to escape their fate. She struggles with hating the hound and becoming his protege. Ultimately she no longer wants to kill him. That's her transformation, and she played an active role in that transformation. Jaoeken Hyaghgarr's (gently caress you GRRM) bit where he beats her for lying about The Hound was a nice touch and confirmed that transformation. Victor Vermis fucked around with this message at 18:12 on May 18, 2015 |
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May 18, 2015 18:06
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So what are the odds that everything backfires on Cersei?!
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May 18, 2015 18:20
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holocaust bloopers posted:So what are the odds that everything backfires on Cersei?! if everything goes right, she gets convicted by the holy court of smelly dudes and has to take a naked walk of shame back to the castle
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May 18, 2015 18:25
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A 100% shaved naked walk of shame, yes.
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May 18, 2015 18:26
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OZYMANDICKASS posted:In the books, I'm pretty sure Theon's face throws out the opening pitch of the cosummation. Ramsay also includes his dogs in the wedding night festivities. HBO honestly turned down his icky dog fetish for the show.
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May 18, 2015 18:34
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The Rat posted:A 100% shaved naked walk of shame, yes. Zeroisanumber posted:Ramsay also includes his dogs in the wedding night festivities. HBO honestly turned down his icky dog fetish for the show. Winterfell: Tijuana of the North.
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May 18, 2015 18:42
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Can we all agree everything in Dorne, and involving the Martells, is just outright boring?
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May 18, 2015 18:43
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holocaust bloopers posted:Can we all agree everything in Dorne, and involving the Martells, is just outright boring? Sand Vipers are the worst kind of wish fulfillment/diversity-hire bullshit
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May 18, 2015 18:47
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Oberyn was cool 
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Whip Slagcheek posted:Oberyn was cool
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Booblord Zagats posted:Sand Vipers are the worst kind of wish fulfillment/diversity-hire bullshit I was hoping they were going to run in looking hard, only to get blown out of the water by Bronn and Jamie like kids from a YMCA Karate class in a UFC Pay-per-View.
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May 18, 2015 18:51
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Same. What we got was a wet fart of a fight scene that reeked of something they whipped together in 20 minutes.
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May 18, 2015 18:54
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May 18, 2015 18:56
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The TV show is head and shoulders above where they're at in the books though.
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We've been getting plotlines that are either total misfires right from the get go (the religious fanatics, Dorne) to ones that are rapidly declining (Sansa, Arya) while very promising ones are not getting the attention they deserve (Tommen).
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May 18, 2015 19:02
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I've been enjoying it.
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May 18, 2015 19:03
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holocaust bloopers posted:We've been getting plotlines that are either total misfires right from the get go (the religious fanatics, Dorne) to ones that are rapidly declining (Sansa, Arya) while very promising ones are not getting the attention they deserve (Tommen). I'm trying to think of stuff we could be getting that would be more interesting than what we are getting. I wouldn't mind seeing Arya get the Bran treatment for a season if it meant we'd get some Greyjoy stuff or even Davos sidequests w/ some (more) "The North Remembers" and Frey intrigue. The show was much better when people just talked and schemed and occasionally we'd get one big episode of action.
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holocaust bloopers posted:Can we all agree everything in Dorne, and involving the Martells, is just outright boring? That bitch was supposed to get her ear cut off. Would have made it a little better.
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May 18, 2015 19:15
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This Jaime and Bronn adventure seems like the type of poo poo the books specifically set out to undermine. Nobody would do that. I know it's adapted a bit and they did fail in their mission.. but it's just so underwhelming. Jaime doing distasteful middle management poo poo in the Riverlands on behalf of the crown was pretty entertaining stuff, I thought. I'd like to have seen the siege of Riverrun, even if just for one episode.
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Whip Slagcheek posted:The TV show is head and shoulders above where they're at in the books though. That's really not saying much though. The only good part of books 4 and 5 was the secondhand description of how Bronn was in a jousting duel and lanced the other dude's horse.
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May 18, 2015 19:17
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Oh, even the Dany stuff isn't going well. GoT generally has a weak middle season run anyhow, so I'm hoping that everything will pick up to close out the season well.
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Hindsight 20/20 and all but Sansa's probably wishing she joined up with the toehead giantess right now.
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Potential BFF posted:Hindsight 20/20 and all but Sansa's probably wishing she joined up with the toehead giantess right now. That's why she's lighting a candle next episode.
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May 18, 2015 20:54
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TCD posted:That's why she's lighting a candle next episode. Probably should have lit that candle before she left to get hitched, eh?
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May 18, 2015 20:56
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http://www.themarysue.com/we-will-no-longer-be-promoting-hbos-game-of-thrones/
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holocaust bloopers posted:http://www.themarysue.com/we-will-no-longer-be-promoting-hbos-game-of-thrones/ Lmao. The Gawker Media blogs are going nuts over last nights episode too. Been a pretty funny day imo.
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holocaust bloopers posted:http://www.themarysue.com/we-will-no-longer-be-promoting-hbos-game-of-thrones/ Ugh the patriarchy  Edit: God damnit double post
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May 18, 2015 21:06
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I'm gonna need a trigger warning next time an op-Ed piece is put up that contains the word "problematic."
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May 18, 2015 21:18
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holocaust bloopers posted:http://www.themarysue.com/we-will-no-longer-be-promoting-hbos-game-of-thrones/ quote:Rape, on the other hand, is expected.
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I couldn't read anymore after that.  at people getting actually mad at pretty much what everyone really knew would happen if they actually did get married. Was there ever any doubt that Sansa was not going to enjoy being a wife to Ramsey?
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